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361  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
75@4
362  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: NY regulator issue subpoenas to firms tied to Bitcoin: WSJ on: August 12, 2013, 06:02:23 PM
Since the beginning of bitcoin, I've been saying that US-based bitcoin exchanges likely need to register in 50 states plus federal level, to be compliant with existing laws.  It's a huge burden, but that was my common sense, I-Am-Not-A-Lawyer read of the law as it stood.  Nothing has changed that estimation.

However, once that hurdle is overcome, great things are possible.

363  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
75@3.9
364  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: NY regulator issue subpoenas to firms tied to Bitcoin: WSJ on: August 12, 2013, 02:40:59 PM
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272269.0 for discussion of the NY memo, and Lawsky background.
365  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 01:49:36 PM
75@3.85
366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NY regulator memo: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies on: August 12, 2013, 01:31:40 PM
Reserved.
367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / NY regulator memo: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies on: August 12, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
URL: http://dfs.ny.gov/about/press2013/memo1308121.pdf
reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1k7e18/ny_regulator_memo_notice_of_inquiry_on_virtual/

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FROM: Benjamin M. Lawsky
, Superintendent of Financial Services
DATE: August 12, 2013
RE: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies
______________________________________________________________________
New York has a long history of promoting technological innovation – both within the financial sector and across our economy.

As innovative products emerge, it is critical to take steps that allow new technologies and industries to flourish, while also working to ensure that consumers and our national security remain protected.

The emergence of Bitcoin and other virtual currencies has presented a number of unique opportunities and challenges. Building innovative platforms for conducting commerce can help improve the depth and breadth of our nation’s financial system. However, we have also seen instances where the cloak of anonymity provided by virtual currencies has helped support dangerous criminal activity, such as drug smuggling, money laundering, gun running, and child pornography.

If virtual currencies remain a virtual Wild West for narco traffickers and other criminals, that would not only threaten our country’s national security, but also the very existence of the virtual currency industry as a legitimate business enterprise.

Indeed, it is in the common interest of both the public and the virtual currency industry to bring virtual currencies out of the darkness and into the light of day through enhanced transparency. It is vital to put in place appropriate safeguards for consumers and law-abiding citizens.

As such, the Department of Financial Services ( DFS ) has launched an inquiry into the appropriate regulatory guidelines that it should put in place for virtual currencies. DFS has already conducted significant preliminary work regarding this inquiry, including making requests for information from virtual currency firms. Based on that initial work , we are concerned that – at a minimum – virtual currency exchangers may be engaging in money transmission as defined in New York law, which is an activity that is licensed and regulated by DFS.

Under current DFS regulations, firms engaging in money transmission are required to post collateral in order to better safeguard customer account funds . Additionally, they are required to undergo periodic safety and soundness examinations, as well as comply with applicable anti-money laundering laws. These guidelines for money transmitters help protect consumers and root out illegal activity.

However, DFS is also considering whether it should issue new regulatory guidelines specific to virtual currencies – rather than simply apply existing money transmission regulations . As such, we could also move forward with new guidelines that are tailored to the unique characteristics of virtual currencies.

We believe that – for a number of reasons – putting in place appropriate regulatory safeguards for virtual currencies will be beneficial to the long-term strength of the virtual currency industry.

First, safety and soundness requirements help build greater confidence among customers that the funds that they entrust to virtual currency companies will not get stuck in a digital black hole. Indeed, some consumers have expressed concerns about how quickly their virtual currency transactions are processed. Taking steps to ensure that these transactions – particularly redemptions – are processed promptly is vital to earning the faith and confidence of c usto mers.

Second, serving as a money changer of choice for terrorists, drug smugglers, illegal weapons dealers, money launderers, and human traffickers could expose the virtual currency industry to extraordinarily serious of criminal penalties. Taking steps to root out illegal activity is both a legal and business imperative for virtual currency firms.

Finally, both virtual currency companies – and the currencies themselves – have received significant interest from investors and venture capital firms. Similar to any other industry, greater transparency and accountability is critical to promoting sustained, long-term investment.

We look forward to working with the virtual currency industry and other stakeholders as our inquiry proceeds, and we move to put in place appropriate regulatory guardrails to protect consumers and our national security.
368  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 06:05:48 AM
75@3.8
369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are there enough nodes online? on: August 12, 2013, 05:59:17 AM
Answer: no.

We can always use more full nodes (bitcoind or Bitcoin-Qt) that accept incoming connections from the global Internet.

If you are behind a firewall (you should be!), drill a hole for port 8333, and verify that it works from somewhere outside your network.

370  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 03:19:33 AM
You are like the lead developer! Can't you just make your own BTC out of thin air!? Grin

heh, just trying to own one tiny piece of each mining concern.
371  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 03:16:36 AM
75@3.7
372  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 75 ASICMINER shares @3.65 BTC/share (48h auction) on: August 12, 2013, 02:44:18 AM
75@3.66
373  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official ASICMINER Hardware Information on: August 10, 2013, 10:55:11 PM
Exceptional Watchlist  Cheesy

Please click the 'watch' link at top or bottom.  There is no need to reply to a thread, to watch it.

See the Watchlist link in the upper left.

374  Economy / Services / Re: John (John K.)'s escrow service (previously known as johnthedong) on: August 09, 2013, 07:17:57 PM
PM sent.  Smiley
375  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: August 09, 2013, 05:58:41 PM
Mentioned ASICMINER as a success story in a blog post,

     Bitcoin, free markets, and wanting your ASIC mining hardware now now now
     http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/08/bitcoin-free-markets-and-wanting-your.html
     or https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270824.0

376  Bitcoin / Hardware / Blog post: Bitcoin, free markets, and wanting your ASIC mining hardware now now on: August 09, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
(they would yell at me, if I posted this in the Press section, I think)

Thought ya'll might be interested in this piece,

    Bitcoin, free markets, and wanting your ASIC mining hardware now now
    http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2013/08/bitcoin-free-markets-and-wanting-your.html

Comments, corrections and additional examples welcome.

Update, content pasted below, on request.

--------------------------<snip>----------------------

The reddit comments discussing the Avalon status update are particularly amusing, embodying signature American impatience:  "I want something, I want it now, and I will rage at the injustice of instant gratification being delayed."

    When it comes to Bitcoin mining, the whole idea of buying something without having any real clue when you'll get it is absurd. It should be like any other computer. Buy it, get it shipped to you within a week. No more bullshit.


Producing a new computer chip requires engineers with highly specialized design skills, and enormous amounts of capital.  $500,000 - $2,000,000 or more.  Any mistakes in the chips cost similarly large sums of money to fix.  Even with a 100% complete design, production may take months.  This is simply not a just-in-time operation.  Further, unexpected month-long delays are common.  Any mistake or change adds weeks to the schedule.

Thus, economics dictates certain realities.  Namely, paying your engineers and paying for chip production.  Possible funding sources:

  •    Angel investors (rich people write big checks)
  •    IPO (ASICMINER)
  •    Pre-orders (BFL, Avalon)
  •    KickStarter (company can fail to produce, and nobody gets sued)
  •    Bounty

Let's take them one at a time.

  •    In 2011-2012, no one stepped forward to write big checks.
  •    ASICMINER IPO'd successfully, on an unregistered-securities exchange.  Risky, but it worked.
  •    Pre-orders, we will discuss separately, below.
  •    KickStarter-like models do not appear to work well for >$1 million projects (statistical anomalies aside).  KickStarter itself is anti-bitcoin.
  •    Bounties never amount to anything more than pocket change, for real projects.

Essentially, there were two workable models that the free market has shown will work in 2011-2012:  IPO on unregistered securities market, or pre-orders.

An unregistered securities market clearly appeals to free market libertarians, as the creation of GLBSE and other projects in the bitcoin community demonstrate.  It is also a magnet for scams, as experience has shown (Pirate-related pass-through funds were listed on GLBSE).  Thus, IPO is a risky endeavor, and in 2011-2012 was unlikely to be successful in producing mining chips.

ASICMINER, through the regular exercise of [some levels of] transparency, prevailed in a difficult market.  They raised capital, started operations, and have so far maintained sufficient levels of profitability to continue operations.  ASICMINER survived the collapse of GLBSE, and continues to pay dividends to shareholders, despite the operator "friedcat" remaining anonymous.

Pre-orders are the remaining funding model.  This is another model that is fraught with scams.  Indeed, there have been many copycats who set up a website, promise ASIC hardware, and attempt to collect money.  How to separate these scams from the real operators?  That question is the fundamental problem with pre-orders.

Unfortunately, pre-orders are also the most straightforward way to fund an ASIC project, if you lack IPO or Angel money.

For bitcoin, circa 2011-2012, pre-orders were the most realistic way that a computer chip was going to be produced.  At the time, fewer knew about bitcoin, and it was unknown if bitcoin's price -- then under $5.00/bitcoin -- would support mining hardware.  It was not obvious there would be a profit.

Butterfly Labs and Avalon took that risk, and succeeded.  Avalon was out the door first, while Butterfly Labs took over 12 months to begin shipping hardware in volume.  Another effort, bASIC, failed, through the operator eventually refunded almost all the pre-order sales money.

Today, mid-2013, bitcoin hardware has been proven to sell.  BFL, Avalon and ASICMINER proved that hardware can be produced, that customer interest exists on the free market.  Several other startups are entering the mining hardware business:  CoinTerra, HashFast, Alydian, KNCminer to name a few.  Existing players are shipping hardware, and working on next-generation designs.

We all want instant gratification.  And customers who pre-order mining hardware have a clear economic incentive to want the mining hardware in their hands ASAP -- every day lost costs money.

But that must be balanced by setting realistic expectations on the mining hardware businesses.  These are all tiny startups, with no existing chip production lines, creating brand new computer chips for an uncertain, volatile bitcoin market whose profitability in future months is unknown.

"buy it, get it shipped within a week" is a realistic expectation for a decades-old computer market that mass-produces PCs.  As the bitcoin mining hardware market matures, we will start to see this too.  Many of the new mining hardware companies are learning from the BFL/Avalon experience, and competing with enhanced pricing and customer service models.

The free market at work.  The bitcoin mining hardware market is what it is, and could not have been accomplished any other way.
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: August 08, 2013, 07:49:19 PM
Can we please move BFL chatter to a BFL-related thread?
378  Economy / Economics / Re: The end of the ASIC on: August 08, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
I just extended the registration on 30+ domain names.  namecheap still took my "worthless" BTC.  Interestingly they credited my account instantly (6 months ago when I paid w/ BTC it required 6 confirmations).

Many vendors are figuring out that zero-confirmation transactions are just fine... for order flows where the actual product delivery takes longer than an hour or so.  i.e.  "accept" the zero-conf transaction, then check it again at a later time when product delivery starts.  For places such as BitcoinStore.com, this works because a bitcoin transaction will have many confirmations by the time they are putting an order in the mail.  Similarly, namecheap can just yank the domain control away from you, if the bitcoin transaction gets double-spent, making "accepting" zero-conf transactions just fine.

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ASICs are disruptive so I expect the amount of doom & gloom, FUD, and hyperbole to ramp up as fast as difficulty over the next 3-6 months.  When the FUD bubble reaches its peak and breaks we can expect that people have gone through the stages of grief (for the loss of their easy money printers) and can move forward.

Indeed.
379  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Alydian Announces 5/10TH Systems w/ 65nm Chip on: August 08, 2013, 03:13:25 PM
Depends on when they start.

They started a while ago.

380  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Alydian Announces 5/10TH Systems w/ 65nm Chip on: August 08, 2013, 03:05:11 PM
I am not sure if you picked up it but it looks like they just purchase a batch of Avalon or BFL Chips and are re-packaging them into a solution.  I am leaning towards Avalon.    If you buy a Avalon batch then you get 3 Th per batch.   Nothing suggests that this is there own chip.  

Yes, they are doing their own chip.  Not BFL or Avalon AFAIK.

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