Funny how you remember some obscure post from months ago but you can't remember the half-dozen times I told you I don't hold or particularly care about Monero. Must be selective memory.
But you do care about CryptoNote and you are one of the most frequent attackers of Dash at the minute along with Smooth & the gang who value Cryptonote same as you. The common factor of the people attacking Dash right now is - Cryptnote investors - and it all started when DRK made instant transactions and renamed to Dash and said it wasn't just about being an "anon coin" anymore and instead wanted to be the "mastercard to Bitcoin's visa". So Cryptonote is quickly heading for the trash heap and the investors are angry. hence the massive attack on Dash recently. QED Nice theory. I'm sure the backlash against DASH has nothing to do with: - its massive and deceptive instamine fraud - lowering of total supply from 80 million to 20 million after launch - lowering block emissions from 500 coins per block to 5 coins per block after launch Instaminers had their fill and then lowered the emission by 100 times. Great coin! Hurry up and attack Monero some more. For weeks back in 2014 Dark/Dash was at sale for peanuts. I didnt mine, just bought some:  We made our distribution long ago. Stop with this "instamine" crap. The actual value of the coin is because the dedicated effort of Evan & team. This is no hard to understand. I'm so sorry I'm smart enoght to see, more than year ago, that Evan is a good dev. Others did the same. You missed it. Get over it. The I bought cheap or I saw lots of volume therefore the coin was fairly distributed argument, isn't proof of fair distribution--it is proof that the coin was cheap or there was lots of trading between accounts that may or may not have been the same person(s). The you're just jealous because I got cheap coins argument doesn't invalidate the instamine either and is annoyingly presumptuous at best. The it's only Monero supporters argument still doesn't invalidate the instamine, nor does the noob account argument, or even the random troll on a FUD campaign argument--in fact the only thing that can invalidate the instamine would be to not have done it or relaunched the coin after the problem was found, but Evan (the guy you keep calling brilliant or a genius) couldn't figure that much out at the time and now you're stuck apologizing for him and angry at the wrong people because they're pointing out an obvious weakness if the coin were to ever attempt the heights of Bitcoin. If you want to be mad, look in the mirror or at Evan, but don't pretend that somehow, someway anyone involved in Monero thinks dash is a good anonymity coin or that Bitcoin is worried about you stealing their market cap; there aren't enough name changes to skew your masternodes into a good anonymous system and Otoh can only prop you up so much and for so long. But as long as you believe that Evan is a god compared to Satoshi and that overly complex systems are great for the world's transactions and nobody in the media would ever question your shady beginnings on your ascent to Jupiter and beyond--as long as you have that, you have sucker bait. Keep on pimpin'. |
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..... ok. Lets ask you what you meant at the time. Perhaps that will help us to resolve this question. Who knows, you might be right, I'm just curious: I suppose this can still work if the emissions curve is flat-ish like BTC (i.e. not as much advantage to early mining).
My recollection from reviewing the code changes is that the emissions should be about 1/4 the speed of bytecoin. Not much advantage to early mining is relative though. Perhaps you have heard about Satoshi's 1m+ bitcoins? The emissions were and are 1/4 the speed of bytecoin in terms of blocks (change of the speed factor from 2 -18 to 2 -20 = 1/4). That was the exact day of launch and I wasn't involved with development so at that point I didn't yet recognize that the block time change reduced that difference by half. Nevertheless, it still works out to 1/2 the speed of Bytecoin i.e. flatter. Do try to stay on topic though. Interesting. So the emissions weren't as advertised. Now we have conflicting statements. The announcements say a slower emissions curve, similar to bitcoin, but the actual code, which you reviewed, was completely different. Yeah. I haven't changed my mind. This is still looking more and more like a scam launch. And the fact we have to uncover these things is a little telling.  'Smooth looked at the code before launch'. Things that make you go hmmmmm. FTFY Still facts: --575,000 dash mined in the first hour --Over 1,500,000 dash mined in the first 8 hours --Over 35% of current emission mined in first 2 days |
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You Moreno guys are just a cancer for the crypto community. Just improve your lousy coin and try to beat us in the markets like grown ups do instead of your pathetic FUD campaings in BTC talk. Shame on you. Shame on you for supporting an instamined coin with weak anonymity features pretending to be fairly launched and anonymous. |
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If you don't like the instamine label, do something about it or move to another coin. You made it, you own it.
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LMFAO another day and another DASH SCAM/INSTAMINE etc thread from a noob. GG Trollero
dash hominem--are you guys even trying anymore? |
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Fundamentally, masternodes are the 'trusted 3rd party security hole' that Szatoshi Nickamoto warned us not to use. Masternodes are part of Dash's multilevel HYIP marketing scheme. Your masternodes earn Dash, so you can buy more masternodes.  They don't actually DO anything useful, and present a vastly expanded attack surface to adversaries. Unbelievably, payouts are centrally directed by a master-masternode, which makes Dash an unregistered/illegal money transmitting business. I wouldn't want the stolen BTC from BTer.com passing through my masternode, but the DashHoles are demonstrably eager to participate in the plunder and launder coins for the thieves. If you bring these facts up on the DashHole thread, the cult-like community alternatively attacks and fake-ignores you for disturbing their groupthink and cheerleading. Wait, so it's ok if the thieves use Monero to launder their coins, rather than Dash? See what I mean? The DashHoles think they can deflect critcism away from Dash if they change the subject. Subject wasn't changed. The subject of this thread (and many others) is actually Monero. And getting it mentioned along with the leader, DASH. The leader of what? Anonymity, no. Marketcap, no. Reputable coins, no. Fair distribution, no. Knee-jerk reactions of every thread that is potentially critical of x/dark/dash, yes. Leader of renaming your coin to escape the truth of an instamine, yes. Anyway, back to Amway-nodes. They are very good at keeping large amounts of coins locked-up and off the market, but they add an attack vector, so rationalizing them into a privacy coin is dumb. Now, if you wanted a non-privacy coin with a built-in method for power centralization, they're one of the best ideas ever. Especially if you create a reward system that benefits masternode operators if they attack other masternode operators to reap the highest profit margin. As the Dash Bitcointalk page outlines here:  |
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Cryptocurrency is what the consensus decides it is.
Thank you. Indeed, and DASH is whatever Evan decides it is. When can we expect the next breach of social contract? You've already gone from 80 million to 20 million. Why not 10 million? Hope he does, that'd be nice. I trust Evan will make the best judgement, as far as increasing my profits goes. And you'll end up with more polls like this and more people who believe Evan purposefully instamined Dash. Once your reputation is gone, it's almost impossible to get it back. |
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Yes with Monero and Bitcoin only !
The Monero community must be looking out for the thieves then? Thieves deserve a fairly distributed and ethically organized means through which they can cover their tracks, I see. Privacy is a two-edged sword--this is no different than proton mail being run legitimately. The technology is built to be effective not moral--that's for the user to decide. Anyway, back to Amway nodes.... |
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Fundamentally, masternodes are the 'trusted 3rd party security hole' that Szatoshi Nickamoto warned us not to use. Masternodes are part of Dash's multilevel HYIP marketing scheme. Your masternodes earn Dash, so you can buy more masternodes. They don't actually DO anything useful, and present a vastly expanded attack surface to adversaries. Unbelievably, payouts are centrally directed by a master-masternode, which makes Dash an unregistered/illegal money transmitting business. I wouldn't want the stolen BTC from BTer.com passing through my masternode, but the DashHoles are demonstrably eager to participate in the plunder and launder coins for the thieves. If you bring these facts up on the DashHole thread, the cult-like community alternatively attacks and fake-ignores you for disturbing their groupthink and cheerleading. Wait, so it's ok if the thieves use Monero to launder their coins, rather than Dash? If you're the thief it is  |
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If only everyone would ignore that instamine; then Evan and his apologists would have a clearer path to ill-gotten gains, but damn people keep on bringing up facts and such.... |
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Saturday night approaching Trollz...you will have to talk amongst yourself about Monero now  For some Trollero home - The Trolleros can take a look at the Monero pre-ann which says the emissions will follow the same path as bitcoin, but when it was scam launched the rate of emissions was changed to be completely opposite. 80% in the first 4 years, most of that coming in the first year. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. The devs who were around at the time and are still around would rather sweep the truth under the carpet so they can keep goading the Trolleros and making them pack hunters. What is it they keep saying, to ignore a scam is to be part of the scam. Well they are all ignoring the Proven Monero Scam Launch. Can't hide it anymore I'm afraid Keep thinking about this and it really is shady as fuck, especially given the de-optimized code, sending people to dud links so they couldn't mine, wallets not working properly, expecting people to compile their own wallets with shitty code that also didn't work, injecting fucked up code to prevent people from submitting work and forking the chain in the first week(s), and then forking the thread from the main dev after only a few weeks 'because he wasn't communicating'. Then there are the lucky ones who seem not to have had any problems and managed to acquire 10% or more of the coin supply in the first week. It really was / is shady as fuck. Still trying to figure out why the bitcoin like emissions suddenly become the opposite of bitcoin. FTFY--and I don't even get a thank you. |
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Attacking Monero doesn't invalidate Dash's instamine. Attacking the vote doesn't invalidate Dash's instamine. The only thing that would invalidate Dash's instamine would to be to prove it wasn't an instamine--but you can't, so.... |
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106/139 or 76.25% of those polled believe Evan purposely instamined Dash.
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Until this stops being your quotation, you will be a fool. It's like Dash's instamine--you make, you own it.
So be it. I'll be the fool then and you be the sensible investor. Don't complain I didn't offer though. You could have saved yourself a lot of repetitive typing and still enjoy those returns at the end of this "many years long" race  Still instamined. Still institutional investor repellent. Still a short-term play in a patient man's game. |
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This is a race that will be measured in years
...if you're an XMR holder waiting on a feature. Better that than waiting for an instamine to go away.... Not really. Says the fool. Bitcointalk ping pong. Quite theraputic. I happen to be a database developer for living - if you want I'll write you a little app to automate your responses. You might get some of your life back. Until this stops being your quotation, you will be a fool. It's like Dash's instamine--you make, you own it.
Cryptography has never been a significant part of cryptocurrency
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This is a race that will be measured in years
...if you're an XMR holder waiting on a feature. Better that than waiting for an instamine to go away.... Not really. Says the fool. |
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This is a race that will be measured in years
...if you're an XMR holder waiting on a feature. Better that than waiting for an instamine to go away.... How many name changes is that--seems that tactic isn't working well |
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Here is what Monero team don't seem to get including GingerAle, Fluffypony and Smooth. People don't care about Monero Launch scam, or DASH early mistake or Satoshi getting 1 Million bitcoins or even any other coin that the CREATER gets. I am no tech guy but Nakamoto Satoshi created this amazing idea that you or anyone here wouldn't even think it exist before he did it so I am no one to say you should not get that 1 million coins! Evan created instant transactions great this can get interesting, what did YOU do to crypto beside CRY"P"TO about people out of you're league in forums? what did MONERO add to anything, is there something new in you're agenda that can get me as investor to think well this coin MIGHT have a chance to be up there with the big boys?
~ Truth is incompetence does not bring smart money so you can say all you want, i've seen this before and still do in Bitcoin forums hating on Bitcoin itself by losers and low achievers and you're nothing but another loser.
Generalize - this ^ If this is true, why do you even fight the instamine label--seems like a big waste of time Oh yeah, to get to trillions it will take institutional investors who are known to vet poorly orchestrated business models and scams. |
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I have no problem figuring out capital gains on XBT or XMR and paying the appropriate tax to the Canadian government. I do have a big problem with DRM and bootloader locked devices. The real evil is corporations such as Microsoft and Apple that push DRM to meet the greed of organizations such as the MPAA.
But you are completely free to use alternatives to their devices. The state is the only thing that could, at-least in theory, even conceivably be able to enforce the monopoly that would be necessary in order to cause drm bootloader locked devices to negatively impact your life in any serious way. Dont get me wrong im not saying that apple and microsoft aren't evil. But what harm is an evil dog without teeth? The state is the teeth in the mouth of evil corporations. Have you tried to purchase a mobile device that is not bootloader locked? Ever heard of the PRISM program? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29 In the PRISM program the state uses corporate teeth to bite not the other way around. Edit: Corporations are the teeth in the mouths of evil states. No. This is totally wrong. If you tried to start your own company who's value proposition was that it had pioneered innovative ways of proving that it was not compromising your security, who do you think would come after you? Dell employees? Or cops? In the absence of the state OF COURSE such a company would come into being. You and me and everyone here and many many many others would pay for that peace of mind. Do you think entrepreneurs are going to pass up the opportunity to make a ton of money off of us? In your example the corporations are logistical specialists at best. The teeth are still the state. The one who would (literally) club you over the head if you interjected and disrupted this unholy union would be agents of the state, not the agents of microsoft. Let's add the states don't want other states eavesdropping on them and corporations don't want states or other corporations eavesdropping on them--this is much bigger than individual rights--not that that isn't reason enough to find alternatives or build more privacy solutions. |
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Facts unchanged by bashing Monero:....
--Over 500,000 dash mined in the first hour.....
...and despite that it's still about 100 times more investible than anything out there. So much for 'perfect' launches. Just as well I'm buying the future. You help yourself to the past. Facts speak for themselves, no need to doll them up with chimerical speculation or turn out tired phrases that won't be verifiable as true until they are or aren't. Even Bitcoin's market cap is a millionth of a second lead in a marathon race for marketcaps in the trillions, so excuse me if I don't OOOhhh and AHHH over a paltry 10 million dollar lead. This is a race that will be measured in years not days, so enjoy it while you can. And still your coin is instamined.... |
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