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3661  Economy / Economics / Chicago Resource (commodites) expo on: October 10, 2011, 06:03:15 PM
http://www.chicagoresourceexpo.com/

It's free, but obviously limited in attendance.  If you're local, register now.
3662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Silk Road the best setup to handle commerce?? on: October 10, 2011, 05:38:51 PM
Drugs are a high value item, wherein privacy is a requirement.  It's Silk Road that needs Bitcoin, not the other way around.  The reason it looks like it's the only successful model is because, for the time being, shopping online for legal items that are otherwise high value and easy to ship works just fine with credit cards.  The only thing that's going to undermine that is if the currency they use loses their trust or the credit card companies lose their trust.  A local model that you might pursue is the 'foodie movement' such as raw milk and local honey.  With the FDA coming down on raw milk suppliers and contract arrangements, there is room for a revival of the "milk man" who delivers the milk to the foodies from an undisclosed farm.
3663  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: October 10, 2011, 05:31:51 PM
At first there will be several companies competing each other, but eventually they will be merged/bought by super captalists and then capital will take over the operation, finally end up in the bank's control

And, if the banks did not do a good job, you have no other choice

For garbage service, I saw one guy who had his own garbage company. He bought a truck that could hold 6 garbage cans in the back. He would go out in the morning, pick up the full garbage can and drop off an empty. Then go drop the garbage off at the dump.

Even if he only did 6 houses per day, that is 180 houses a month times $10 each per month...$1,800 per month income just for owning a truck and making a garbage run every day. $2,600 per month if he makes two trips a day.

A corporation could buy him out. Then the next guy would go out and buy a truck and do the same thing...

This happened informally in my city after a major windstorm tore through the area.  The debris was so extensive, and the city otherwise too busy with power and life safety, that the garbage wasn't getting picked up.  mostly because the garbage men have two routes each day, one before and one after lunch.  But if the truck gets full, they abandon the end of the route.  Apparently my street was near the end of that route, and garbage was getting out of hand, but the city said that they would cover the drop-off fees for city residents and then a couple of guys came buy and said that they would take all I had piled up (over three weeks) for $15.  I said "deal", and paid them cash.  They just took the bags of trash and tossed them into the bed of an old ford pickup along with what looked like half my street.
3664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who occupies the occupiers? on: October 10, 2011, 01:09:11 PM
From what I can find on the internet, it looks to me that the media is focusing on particular groups within the protests, intentionally or otherwise.  It doesn't look like there is any single group, but some groups make more news than others.

I hope so, because it smells like the Tea Party thing all over again.

It's the left's version of the tea party movement.  So now freedom can be trampled from both the left and the right--by the Occupy Movement and the Tea Party movement.

It's pretty obvious that neither one of you have ever actually attended a Tea Party rally to find out for yourself what they are about.  I have, and at least in my area of the country, freedom from government (and oppressive taxation) is pretty much the major undercurrent.  There are many libertarian leaning groups there, both young and old.  I shouldn't have to say this, but don't depend upon the observations of others for your opinions, particularly not people that listen to the media much.  I think that both of you would likely find that you have much in common with both the Tea Party people and the Wall Street occupiers if you took either event first hand.
3665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Payment Address on Plastic "Credit Card" on: October 09, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
Granted it's not likely to be very useful but I thought of one use for it.

Door prizes or similar. You visit an event and scan your card as you enter/register etc. Now they know who to send any prize to if they have a draw. There's probably other things like this that it could be handy for.

the magstripe?
3666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: October 09, 2011, 12:51:52 AM
As for the free rider thing....perhaps you missed the part where I received a letter in the mail that said "pay $20" per month or pay per service.

Wow, seems like a rip-off.

Here in Toronto, our fire services cost us about $12/month fully paid for by taxes. The free market does not always provide the most efficient solution, notably in areas of "natural monopoly", like fire services, roads, etc.

2010 fire services budget $359 million
Population of Toronto 2.5 million (2006)


Toronto is a big city, with a completely differnet market dynamic.  You can't even know how much cheaper a mature & competitive private fire protection market could be.  You can't know if it might be $8 monthy for a home.  I'd bet that the relative costs of fire protection in NYC are vanishingly small.  It's a city of concrete and steel.  Toronto is pretty much likewise, is it not?
3667  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 08, 2011, 04:02:44 AM
This is a perfect example of the level of sense these people have..

"Emissions from this one reactor exceeded a hundred-fold the radioactive contamination of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

Anyone with any rational sense would have to ask, "how could that be?" for those bombs were intended to be released into the immediate environment completely while not all, not even a lot, of the core of Chernobyl escaped into the air via the graphite fire.  Almost none would have even then if they hadn't used graphite as their moderator.  One of the reactors at Chernobyl was still producing power 10 years later, which also means that there were plant workers still at the site. 
3668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 08, 2011, 03:42:38 AM

But it is absolutely not true when you consider a nuke plant that has burned through its containment, burned a hole into the ground, mixed with ground water, and spewed tons of pure reaction metals into the ocean.  Unbelievable.

Math isn't your strong suit?


You are indeed obnoxious.

Anyway,
Chernobyl caused a million deaths so far and Fukushima is an unprecedented failure of a nuclear reactor times 3.  It will eventually kill many more people and it is far from over.


Sorry, but that's simply not true.  Those numbers are based upon the assumption that anyone who dies from any form of cancer who lived within 100 or so miles downwind of the plant during the disaster, and likewise anyone who died from any other complication even loosely associated with radiation poisoning, died because of exposure to the radioactive material released.  It's intelectually dishonest to assume that all such deaths were related, the cancer rates were slightly elevated in the monitored population.  It probably is the root cause of thousands of deaths, but even so most of those people didn't lose very much off the average lifespan taken on aggregate.  It was still a horrible disaster made worse by politics and poor engineering and technical response training, but the actual reduction of lifespan was far less than feared.

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  At one point shortly after the explosions residents of Seattle were breathing air with ten hot particles per cubic meter.


It's probably that high right now.  Asbestos is far more dangerous for human life at that concentration than airborne iodine (which is what is the real threat) of the same concentration.  The solar wind produces more radioactive oxygen than that.

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  A hot particle is absorbed by the body which mistakes it for a nourishing mineral (hot particles don't occur naturally much at all so our bodies have no defense against them). The hot particle bombards surrounding tissue with products of radioactive decay and almost certainly will cause a cancer. 


You're speaking of iodine.  We do have a simple defense such relatively low concentrations.  Iodine pills.  If the body doesn't need iodine, it won't try to assimulate more from food or any other source, and it will be ejected via urine.  The risks of radioactive iodine is the length of time in close proximity to tissue.  Moving iodine doesn't damage nearby tissues fast enough to trigger cancer.

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To get hot particles out of the body one has to become savvy in how to detox.  Regular heavy sweating is a great thing to do.  Also, zeolite and bentonite clay attract charged particles in the gut and out they go.

And seaweed tofu.  It was a regular breakfast ration for the Japanese doctors and nurses in the humanitarian effort following the bombing of Japan.  Knowing nothing about radiation poisoning at the time, logic would have suggested that their rate of cancers would be significantly elevated in the following years, but it was not.
3669  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Intellectual Property - In All Fairness! on: October 08, 2011, 12:32:20 AM
"Daniel Bartels, of the Columbia Business School, found that those who “endorse actions consistent with an ethic of utilitarianism – the view that what is the morally right thing to do is whatever produces the best overall consequences – tend to possess psychopathic and Machiavellian personality traits.”

http://www.strike-the-root.com/prohibition-did-work-sort-of

This stuff is too easy.
3670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Payment Address on Plastic "Credit Card" on: October 08, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
Adding bitcoin adress containing magstripe to the card will be nice option.

To what end?  Who would use it?
Any person/shop who had a stripe reader (hooked to a pc?) could use it to read the same value as the QR code. Of course, that would require substantially wide use of these cards and to be done properly it would need some standard implementation of checksum/coding on the stripe too.

Why would they use it?  The QR codes are to receive funds from someone else, not pay for them.  It's completely backwards of how a credit card currently works.  Who is going to add magstripe readers to their cell phone so that they can scan the vendor's card when the camera can scan a QR sticker affixed to the register at least as well?
3671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 08, 2011, 12:07:51 AM

Not that I consider the Guardian a trustworthy source, but in the absence of counter-evidence, I shall consider myself duely corrected.
3672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 08, 2011, 12:00:58 AM
just to clear up any confusion with nuclear, it simply is not the solution.

the number 1 problem is what do you do with the waste.

other than that i think nuclear is perfect safe, just not the waste, and because of that, i would never advise anyone to use it. of course if you have a cost effective solution please state it.

Actually there is.  Search Wikipedia for the terms "thorium fuel cycle" and "energy amp".  You will learn much.  When you finish, consider the question, "In light of what is known and how Europe handles fission waste products, why does the US wish to establish the long term repository in Nevada?"

3673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 07, 2011, 11:58:02 PM


Just to be clear, there are no deaths from radioactive exposure with regards to the Fukushima event.



I thought that there was one case of an overexposed plant employee who died after trying to help put out the coolant pool fire.  I might be wrong, or he simply died of something other than radiation exposure.
3674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 07, 2011, 11:25:54 PM

But it is absolutely not true when you consider a nuke plant that has burned through its containment, burned a hole into the ground, mixed with ground water, and spewed tons of pure reaction metals into the ocean.  Unbelievable.

Well, he never claimed to compare a coal plant running normally to that of a nuke plant in catastrophic breakdown of containment.  It's rational enough to assume that he was comparing the average coal plant running normally to an average nuke plant running normally, and it's true.  I've worked at both types of power plants in my career, and even without knowing that a coal plant releases more radioactive material into the environment in a year than a nuke plant (which I did know, as it's pretty common knowledge in the industry) I wouldn't want to live near a coal plant.  Nothing grows within a quarter mile of the stack of Beckjord Powerhouse in SE Ohio, as it is the oldest running coal plant in America.  And even if I lived in sight of a nuke plant, these days one can get a rapid warning alert for an android phone that would inform you immediately if the nuke plant were to ever enter into forced shutdown, etc.

That said, if you take all of the radioactive material released by coal plants the world over, it's somewhat worse than a Chernobyl each year, it's just not so concentrated.  People died from both the Chernobyl event and the Fukushima event due to the concentrations of lethal exposure.  There were other effects from Chernobyl that could be debated, but the rates of cancer and birth defects were much lower than expected.  You likely get more dosage from the concrete blocks of buildings that you work in and from medical screening than you would have simply because you lived 10 or 20 miles from either of these events.  And no matter how the media presents it, Chernobyl was still a much worse environmental catastrophe than Fukushima.
3675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Payment Address on Plastic "Credit Card" on: October 07, 2011, 11:07:55 PM
Adding bitcoin adress containing magstripe to the card will be nice option.

To what end?  Who would use it?
3676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Intellectual Property - In All Fairness! on: October 07, 2011, 10:24:03 PM

"Fascism is the system of government that cartelizes the private sector, centrally plans the economy to subsidize producers, exalts the police state as the source of order, denies fundamental rights and liberties to individuals and makes the executive state the unlimited master of society."

http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/how-fascism-kills-the-american-dream/

Is there any objection to this casual definition?

3677  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bill introduced to outlaw gravity because it's too much of a downer. on: October 07, 2011, 07:33:42 PM
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The reason, of course, that the policy failed was Khrushchev’s ignorance of the immutable fact – the self-evident truth – that corn can only be grown under certain conditions, and Russia’s climate did not provide them.

A singular vision can get it right or wrong. As shown above.

A non unified vision (libertarian property rights) guarantees some will get it right and some will get it wrong. Unfortunately, in the case of the environment, its destruction is caused by fragmentation, like a checkerboard.

Can you support the statement in bold?  Do you have any evidence that it is so?

Yeah, I can. Read some of my 500+ posts. And I'll post more stuff, but it will take time. Because there's lots of stuff.

What if I do support it? Are you saying that your beliefs are dependent on there being no support?

I'm saying that I may or may not agree, depending upon what you actually mean by that.   It's a vague statement standing alone.
3678  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Intellectual Property - In All Fairness! on: October 07, 2011, 07:32:12 PM

Then, as another already stated, don't open a door you cannot close.  And don't refer to your oppositions' arguments as "silly" sans a counter-argument.

Saying that all restrictions on freedom are part of a slippery slope to slavery is "something" Tongue

Work calls so offline.

Still not an argument.
3679  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Intellectual Property - In All Fairness! on: October 07, 2011, 07:30:21 PM
...snip...

Its not either/or.  Vast numbers of people have dogs.  Only a few get their jollies from torturing dogs.  Since pointless cruelty is something our societies abhor, we take the dogs off that few people.  On a balance of benefits, taking away the freedom to torture dogs is less harmful than leaving the dogs get tortured. 



Limiting the freedoms of the rare few as a direct consequence of their own actions is entirely a different topic than limiting the freedoms of the majority because of what could be done by the rare few.

For the majority, its an even easier decision.  They find torturing dogs repugnant.

Try requiring that dog owners pay a $300 'license' to fund an anti-dog torturing task force and see how much majority you have left.
3680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paypal Strikes Again, This is an Opportunity for BTC to Prove its Value on: October 07, 2011, 07:27:15 PM
Thanks for doing the research.
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