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381  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: coinurl.com considered malware, sites using it are being blocked by chrome. on: July 26, 2013, 12:24:52 PM
Hm... does coinurl actually contain malware, or is this an unethical business practice by google ? The ads sported by coinurl looks much like google adsense ads, but if Google is using their power to give warnings to all users on any site incorporating coinurl, that's really really bad, and evil.

I would think that could even be grounds for a lawsuit, if it's not really malware, but malicious blocking.

The site is now also blocked in firefox, with some more info here:
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?hl=en-US&site=http://coinurl.com/

So, legit malware ?

I don't know about this particular case, but I had a site that was listed like this wrongly about three years ago.  I got google to lift the warning after some time, however even today,  some of the major links to the site that gave it most of the traffic and value, never returned. 

It is unfortunately not all that uncommon to use ad networks to try and insert malware though.

I really think google is getting way too much in the loop of things these days.  I wish btc sites would stop putting them in for analytics and such all the time at least.   For that matter I am tired of cloudflare backed sites.
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 26, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
I currently have roughly 80% of your network's hashrate



So much for a smooth switchover to VGB-ness.   If the right honourable gentleman from Spots does not upgrade to nuggalicious version 1.0.1, then all will be for naught! 



So how much hash power is 80% anyway?   
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 26, 2013, 11:52:09 AM

b)  2,000 NUGs for the First p2p Pool (please charge a fair fee).

Do not think p2pool is going to work well with seventy second blocks at all.  I think you want to just change this
to a pool and drop p2pool.
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TERRACOIN ATTACK OVER 1.2TH ATTACK CONFIRMD on: July 26, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
The timing is not ticking. So the attacker can continue mining at the low difficulty because he fake a special timestamps set. Extremely clever and know the implementation of the diff algorithm.

Maybe the same group that attacked the FTC.

Sounds like the time warp attack.   What was TRC forked from?
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 26, 2013, 10:50:56 AM
anybody know when the new wallet with twobits VGB fix will be ready?  I'm getting an average miner built by tomorrow hopefully and I'd like to mine Nuggets but I don't want to download this current wallet just to mess it up later or lose the coins I mine.

His current fix I don't know to do using a new computer.  should I download the current wallet now and then his fix or how  does it work?  TIA

Umm.. it was ready the same time I posted it.    Did you check out both links I posted?

Here is the thing though, in order for the change to take effect you have to get enough people running it before the change over.  This means you need to update your original post, and create a new post announcing a mandatory upgrade.  It has been like three days now and I have not seen this done.   The coin's manager is not doing his part of the job.

I also explained that this is about as close as you can get to the original description of shooting for 12 VGB a day.  It is all probability based, not time based though.  So you might get 3 in one hour, then none for a day.  It should average out over time.  You can not force a timer with the code base the way it is as it is a distributed system, and it is not keeping precise enough time to do so.   To change this would take far more work then the whole coin has so far.

386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NUG] - Nugget Bounty Thread on: July 24, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Trying the new version 1.0.1 windows binary ( https://app.box.com/s/blhmif79kih317yqjm7a ) and all is working as expected.   Even mined a block, just for the hell of it.

We're at block 3720 now, so we have a bit to go before switchover at block 6677.   Enough time for people to decide if they want to join in the fun, and for Vlad to post more interesting and enlightening nuggets of wisdom.


about 2 and a half days..
why block 6677?
@ 70s/block, mining currently nets 60,480 coins/day?
after block 6677, this increases to 181,020 including 12 x bonus blocks, am I right?
Low incentive to mine the next 3000 blocks...

Even with two and a half days, it may not go well  Vlad has been constantly saying how it must be hard as no one fixed the code, even though patches were posted the fist day that outlined the fix.     So after hearing that for some days,  we  went and put a repo with a patch and even made a binary.  So far though, Vlad has yet to update the original post, or make an announcement that people should update.  Somehow he things this fix should magically happen or something.
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 23, 2013, 08:39:48 AM
This release should get the super blocks working as suggested in the original code and post.

https://bitbucket.org/mytwobits/nuggets/

https://app.box.com/s/blhmif79kih317yqjm7a

It forks at block 6677.


However, there is no good way to do time based requirements with the current code.  Even if this was changed
it would fail miserably unless you required everyone to run ntp (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237658.0)
Really though, everyone should be.. if you are not go get it and set it up now.

388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NUG] - Nugget Bounty Thread on: July 23, 2013, 06:51:35 AM

* The completion of the one true VGB protocol:  code updates, code reviews!, new binaries, etc, (and with a suggested switchover of no earlier then block 6666)

I commited the code markm came up with while we had a tired banter the other day.  Has two tweeks from the last he posted,  one to change the seed, the other to change the starting block.

https://bitbucket.org/mytwobits/nuggets/commits/c10a55b8c1718d8ae428885d10dc53aa2a1f496d

If no one sees any issues with it I will build up some binaries  a bit later.

I thought for a moment there was an issue with not doing a else for the 0 award blocks #3 to 249.  But I was wrong.  I see that it'd just pass through the if statement and return the initialized setting of int64 nSubsidy = 0 * COIN.   Seems OK.



All right then,  made a binary of it.

https://app.box.com/s/blhmif79kih317yqjm7a

Lets see what God does with it.

389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 23, 2013, 05:18:02 AM

I always admit when I'm wrong why can't you guys admit my golden blocks are not made to function like the super and lucky. Locks and the programming will require stats and calculus. And that required at least a bachelors degree (of science) or serious hacking skills.    Cause no way this is a clone of super blocks and the best programmers here in 4 days can't get it to run.  That's absurd.[/b][/i]

Well, we can not see the specs you gave to the programmer, but as for the results, they are the same as what was in lucky coin.   We, the collective we in this thread, had the information to make a patch in this thread since at least the 15th.    It just takes someone to actually then put that in the code and build the binaries, which is usually the coin managers job.  I have not been working for days at it,  we knew the jist of the fix in like 15 minutes.   This was based on the code though.  If the code did not even come close to what you speced we have no way of knowing without the specs.
 
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NUG] - Nugget Bounty Thread on: July 22, 2013, 08:58:10 PM

* The completion of the one true VGB protocol:  code updates, code reviews!, new binaries, etc, (and with a suggested switchover of no earlier then block 6666)

I commited the code markm came up with while we had a tired banter the other day.  Has two tweeks from the last he posted,  one to change the seed, the other to change the starting block.

https://bitbucket.org/mytwobits/nuggets/commits/c10a55b8c1718d8ae428885d10dc53aa2a1f496d

If no one sees any issues with it I will build up some binaries  a bit later.

391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Seven lie alt coins - more data, more truth on: July 22, 2013, 05:19:03 PM
I always wonder why the XPM block chain sometimes includes blocks out of order.

Bitcoin has a fairly wide window of accepted times, and it is +- and allows for this as well.  Only a few clones/forks have tightened this up much,  like i0coin did, and they but an ntpdate like routine into it.  I really think hosts that run coin programs should  run ntp and that being able to require better times would be a plus all around.
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 22, 2013, 03:12:15 PM

Quick, give me the net present value of bitcoin assuming zero cashflows in the future and a discount rate of 25%.

I think would get a zero for the answer to that.  However, that assume that the way to value a btc is similar to a stock.

What is the NPV of a dollar?  You dont calculate that based on cashflow, but rather interest and inflation rates.



No the dollar is calculated more on supply, velocity and a few other things.  Inflation snd interest don't affect value as much as depreciation and economic greothxc


But yeah, bitcoin is not a real asset so it was a trick wuesion but wallstreet MBA's don't get it they keep trying to value it.  That's why they don't take it seriously.  

And that's why ixCoin can to to $100 and devcoin to $1 cause It has nothing to do with real fundamental analysis or cashflows.  That's why I said this will b bigger snd faster than the dot com bubble once it catches on.

I consider inflation to reflect supply, and velocity and economic growth.   The interest rate I expect to reflect inflation + expected growth + return of the specific investment
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 22, 2013, 02:54:06 PM

Quick, give me the net present value of bitcoin assuming zero cashflows in the future and a discount rate of 25%.

I think would get a zero for the answer to that.  However, that assume that the way to value a btc is similar to a stock.

What is the NPV of a dollar?  You dont calculate that based on cashflow, but rather interest and inflation rates.

394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NUG] - Nugget Bounty Thread on: July 22, 2013, 12:23:27 PM
You guys want the fixed VGB patch actually pushed out?
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 22, 2013, 10:41:25 AM
When I found about bitcoin and saw I had no way to compete I went for Litecoin.  Went to fry's and had them build me a special 8 core AMD 8350, dual AMD RADEON 8750 GPU's miner with the high end Samsung 8400 (I think) pro SSD drive and the best wifi card, best to the next, the AC card was double, back ally a nice high end $1,700 desktop made especially mining..  But this rig i guarantee was above the usual small miner rig and guess what I made with it. Jack and shit.

Oh man, you can't be this bad at stuff.


What do you mean.  Most small miners will not spend more than $2,000 on a mining rig and the most they'll make is $100 per month (on LTC alone) after electricity and so it would take nearly 2 years just to get their rig money back.


So where am I bad?


There are a number of places this machine would be considered misconfigured as a mining rig.  The most glaring one
is in the key component of the gpus.   You wanted 7950s for LTC mining. 

396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 22, 2013, 08:21:17 AM
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397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 22, 2013, 08:20:19 AM
So I have this so far:

So how about this... just make it go from the 55th character?  Ship it?

Code:
int64 static GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64 nFees, uint256 prevHash)
{
        int64 nSubsidy = 0 * COIN;

        std::string cseed_str = prevHash.ToString().substr(55,7);
        const char* cseed = cseed_str.c_str();
        long seed = hex2long(cseed);

        int rand = generateMTRandom(seed, 1000000);

        if(nHeight == 1)
                nSubsidy = 1100000 * COIN; //.5% Public Wallet Premine

        else if(nHeight == 2)
                nSubsidy = 1100000 * COIN; //.5% Coin Owner Premine

        else if(nHeight > 250 && nHeight <= 14726880){
                nSubsidy = 49 * COIN;   //Standard 49 Coin Reward
                if(nHeight > 5000 && rand < 9723)   
                                nSubsidy = 10045 * COIN;  //The super block Protocol Random 250x Block Award
        }
    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

Quote
What about the substring problem though?

With so many coins using superblocks, haven't any of them figured out a fix for that part?

Or have they actually discovered it is not actually a problem really due to some (valid) reason why it is not?

-MarkM-

398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 21, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
Think a long is 32 bits on the windows 32 builds that most use.  I too was wondering why only 7 digits got used.
No idea as of yet. Maybe to avoid sign issues?

Hmm if it didn't want negative seed values it would use unsigned int instead of int as seed, wouldn't it?

Then we could just use the bytes directly instead of doing a math operation to convert hex to base ten, since we don't care about the hex value nor even the base ten value we just want a certain number of bits of pseudorandom bits to fill our seed.

-MarkM-


Don't know on the signed/unsigned.  Was just the only thing I could think of as to why 7 digits.

And yes, the conversion from bytes to hex, and then to a substring and then back to bytes is all fluff I think.
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 21, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
So seven hex digits is the largest we can fit into a long? Is that why only 7 digits are used?

I am not even sure offhand whether by long we mean 32 bits or 64 bits or heck maybe even 128 bits.

(Well probably not 32 nowadays, nowadays int tends to be at least 32.)

-MarkM-



Think a long is 32 bits on the windows 32 builds that most use.  I too was wondering why only 7 digits got used.
No idea as of yet. Maybe to avoid sign issues?

400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 21, 2013, 02:23:17 PM

According to Vlad there is something very special with these coins, something with Godstuff.

My guess is you'll become the new Jesus, could you maybe go outside and see if you start to develop some ability to walk on water?

I get that ability in the winter sometimes.
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