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381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2020, 05:50:40 AM
Hey jbreher:

I have been pondering this BTC order increments and spread idea for the past couple of days, and I thought that maybe there is a way that I could attempt to further clarify points of my above post,

I don't think I really disagree with anything in your post. I just find it non-optimal for me. Again, I put a high value on being able to enter offsetting trades (i.e. in the wake of a trade execution) without needing to think about it. My twelve second claim may be off a few percent one side or another, but it is pretty close to reality.

So, other than step functions in changing my overall increment when price has done a several X, my increments are uniform, and there is a two increment space between my highest standing buy and my lowest standing sell. It just simplifies the thinking. Or actually eliminates the thinking, and simplifies the rote execution.

As for magnitude of increment, yes there is a balance between total profit, profit margin, and effort required. Your profit margin on a smaller increment is smaller than on a larger increment, but seeing as small movements in price happen more often than large movements in price (indeed, it is a power law distribution), overall profit is larger with a smaller increment. As the increment gets smaller, it is true that you start giving more away in cost of sales (trade fee), which at some point makes you question whether it is worth the effort. This is another reason to minimize the effort on any given trade, as that allows you to cull more total profit without feeling unduly burdened.

At least, it works for me.

Incidentally... 0.5%? Ouch.
382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 06, 2020, 05:39:17 AM
breher can't help but remind us that he's a fork shill. even during a pandemic, and invoking the medical troubles of an established forum members to do so.

he can't help it but its still kind of a dick move.

Bull-fucking-shit.  _I'm_ not the one that brought the topic up. Check the goddam transcripts. You're so fucking partisan that you're blinded to the bald truth.

Transcripts checked. You're the one who brought up Bruno.

You could have just said nothing, which would have been more honorable than what you actually said.

I honestly don't feel like arguing about the issue any further, as it was a stupid issue to begin with, so I'll let you have the last word.

The topic, for which I am routinely castigated, is BCH, which was not brought up by me.

My contribution using BCH — one of the few sanctioned methods — was used merely to point out that characterizing “bcashers” as living in “fantasy land” is pure nonsense. Real commerce is accomplished thereby.
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 06, 2020, 04:42:57 AM
breher can't help but remind us that he's a fork shill. even during a pandemic, and invoking the medical troubles of an established forum members to do so.

he can't help it but its still kind of a dick move.

Bull-fucking-shit.  _I'm_ not the one that brought the topic up. Check the goddam transcripts. You're so fucking partisan that you're blinded to the bald truth.
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 06, 2020, 12:13:34 AM
By the way, we don't even really have jonoiv to pick on because he ended up being (kind of) correct about sub $6k,

For which you excoriated him/her incessantly, and even browbeat anyone who pointed out that your behavior in that regard was offensive. Does that paragraph serve in your mind as the apology to jonoiv that any claim to civil decency would require?
385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 06, 2020, 12:03:20 AM
Wow, didn't realise what I posted would cause so much drama. Apologies for that.

No problem. I'll reciprocate with apologies for my rash name calling (quickly edited, but still not before quoted).

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All I meant by it is that those morons in that video suffer from the same selective reasonings and echo chamber mentality that (most) bcashes also fall victim to.

PotKettleBlack

While I have no normative statistics to which I can point, I am convinced the average BCR-er knows a fuckton more about BTC than your average BTC-er knows about BCH. Why would you trust me on this? Maybe because I'm the one in this interaction that spends time in both said communities.

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A quick visit to the /r/btc subreddit will show you just that.

ALL of reddit is a cesspool. This surprises you?

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That doesn't mean BCH doesn't work and that you can't transfer value... just that the reasonings for its existence are flawed and serve to push an agenda.

No, BCH's reason for existence is as a means of transferring value. Specifically, an uncensorable one that does not collapse in functionality as demand for its use rises. How is this flawed? You're still way off base.
386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2020, 11:52:08 PM
Hopefully, Bruno is not disadvantaged by you dumping that shit on him.. .

In light if the fact that he posted a BCH address explicitly for donations for this purpose, your postulated scenario seems rather unlikely.
387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2020, 08:10:40 PM
just like we have difficulties getting rid of Covid-19, we have difficulties of getting rid of bcash variants...

It is simple to get rid of BCH. People will even pay you to take it off your hands.

Unless you mean eradicate. In which case, it appears you're stuck with it in indefinite perpetuity. Sucks to be you.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2020, 08:06:49 PM
You are just wrong on this one.

Wrong about what? My observation that BCH and talking heads babbling about COVID-19 are unrelated topics?

No. They are unrelated topics.
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2020, 07:48:00 PM
Surprised you haven't yet noticed a persistent theme in this thread involving the derogation of bcash.

It is always OK here, if not welcomed. Its one of the things we do, and that defines WO culture.

Yes, and stupidity will be loudly trumpeted and acclaimed, as long as it adheres to our collective knee-jerk groupthink BCH Derangement Syndrome. WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, but mostly IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

At least you admit it.
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2020, 03:10:46 PM

As a lot of Trumptards ignorant fools in the good ole USA take these clowns' words as the gospel, small wonder we are where we are today.


I shouldn't have watched that... these people... I have no words

The same mentality as bcashers; living in fantasy land

I don’t think you have a point. I used BCH to transfer hundreds of dollars of value to Bruno recently, to assist with his funeral arrangements. Does that sound like ‘fantasy land’ to you?

Freakin idiot.

Oh Brother.

Really breher... really??

Take things out of context to apply them to you personally much?

I know Bruno never had qualms with bcash and thought Roger Ver was an OK guy. But invoking him to make a point here is unnecessary.

Oh brother.

Really, nutildah... Really ?

WTF Do talking heads blabbing about the effects of covid have to do with BCH?

Nothing, that’s what.

Stupid non-sequitur is stupid, and deserving of having its stupidity ridiculed.
391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 05, 2020, 02:35:44 PM

As a lot of Trumptards ignorant fools in the good ole USA take these clowns' words as the gospel, small wonder we are where we are today.


I shouldn't have watched that... these people... I have no words

The same mentality as bcashers; living in fantasy land

I don’t think you have a point. I used BCH to transfer hundreds of dollars of value to Bruno recently, to assist with his funeral arrangements. Does that sound like ‘fantasy land’ to you?

Freakin idiotic non-sequitur.
392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 08:32:35 AM
Currently, I am using around $250 increments and my spreads are around $900...

I have gone back and forth with jbreher on this topic of increments, and he seems to have way the fuck smaller increments than me, and he claims to be making a killing whether the BTC price is going down or it is going up, he is saying that he is making a killing..

Jeebus - my eyes glazed over again - I almost fell asleep before I saw my name.

No, I don't claim to be making a killing - just harvesting a consistently nice bit of the volatility.

Firstly, my current increments are exactly what you claim to be employing. But I think I see the issue that keeps you thinking all the time, instead of just rote executing. What is this $900 spread of which you speak?

Nay, if my increment is $250, my spread is $500. So any order gets entered exactly as the order two before it (think about it).*

* spread has to be 2X increment. If a buy, fill the middle with a sell. If a sell, fill the middle with a buy. duh.

Well, it is a strategy.
393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 08:17:47 AM
If the physician is the least bit established, most office visit claims are processed as "clean claims," meaning they are automatically processed. They don't have to "fight the insurance company" or "chase reimbursement." They submit the claim and receive payment for it with no questions asked.

Well, I think you previously said that you worked in this field. I don't wanna argue with you. But I gotta ask - for every one of you, how many doctors?

Which kinda gets to my point. Decades ago, when you went to the doctor, you saw the goddammned _doctor_. He (all right, only occasionally she) had the bandwidth to deal with your medical issues, and do the billing. Because It consisted of simply sending an invoice.

Today? I dunno. But I'd be unsurprised if I learned that there are four billing specialists for every fucking MD on the planet.

That's a lot of unhelpful mouths to feed.
394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 08:06:13 AM
RIP Adam Schlesinger. You will be missed.

I had no idea until tonight how much he contributed.

That said, I still think Stacy's mom is hot AF.
395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 08:01:54 AM
BTC is very volatile, so starting with an amount of cash and BTC, there should be a sure way to end up with more in the end.

Of course if you consider that BTC will go up and up, then just buy BTC with the cash and you're done, but IMHO you lose opportunities.

Dude. Or dudette. Upthread. Ignore at your peril.

Though with the 'lose opportunities' dig, you might be looking for a risky play. No love for that here.

And you were _so_ close.
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 07:58:07 AM
That fancy beer in the shops isn't essential. It's doubleplusungood.

Well, if we're really going _there_, it's crappy, greasy (presumably british) gin that we're supposed to be swilling.

Big brother would have it no other way.

Boot on the face of humanity an all...
397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 07:54:39 AM


wait... what? Seriously!?
398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 07:51:03 AM
Amid coronavirus scare, Americans flock to remote land, survival retreats


... headin for the hills, watchout for snakebite pandemic.

(tunes) run for your lii i ayiiife...
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 03, 2020, 07:49:06 AM
I lack a strategy.

 There is no strategy, but to HODL, when dealing with the honey badger.

 If you try to trade, you're gonna have a bad time.

My strategy; I refuse to make losing trades...

this means I have been stuck in some positions for over 2 years

so yeah...bad time

Well, see, that's one benefit of the J strategy.

You never sell a coin for less than you bought it. And you never buy a coin for more than you sold it. What could possibly be better?

I mean, yeah - when it does a monotonic up, we're left with less Bitcoin, and a pile of stinky fiat as consolation. But to the point that it bounces, we sometimes cover that in advance.
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 02, 2020, 10:41:56 PM
There is a limit sell button also, people! When these n00bs gonna learn to use it?

Not only that, but many exchanges charge lower fees to maker than to taker.
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