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1341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2019, 07:37:07 AM

300 million buys ~100,000 s17 pros https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138318.msg51287657#msg51287657 if you could get that many, with some discount
50 Th/s x 100,000 = 5 million T = 5 exahash


OK. But of course, Ayre runs SQR, which uses Samsung to fab their ASICs directly.
1342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2019, 07:35:41 AM
Bitcoin SV is 44x less secure than bitcoin.
https://i.imgur.com/SzT3fV0.jpg

Yes, but currently over 5% more profitable to mine. Which would tend to narrow the gap.

Oh - and it is over 2500x more expensive to transact on BTC than on SV. But who cares about that, right?

(source: coin.dance)
1343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 04:18:37 PM
Lawsuit fun in riposte to Craigy and bum chum - https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1134411099250581504

What a strange world we live in.

Craig forced his own hand on this one. Ought to be a doozy.

AreYouNotEntertained.png
1344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: May 31, 2019, 07:11:38 AM
To be honest i don't really like any Bitcoin fork, but i'm happy to see Bitcoin SV rising, its a nice middle finger to all major exchanges who delisted it, becuase of a stupid action of CW. There should be no such thing to delist a coin coin because of stupid statement, be it a sh*tcoin or not.

It wasn't just one, but multiple stupid scam/unethical actions:

1) Releasing fake news on chinese social media that 30K BTC moved from original Satoshi wallet
2) Filing a copyright claim on Bitcoin code
3) Filing a lawsuit against Peter McCormack making his life difficult as it seems it will cost him at least $100.000 to get out of this
4) Asking hackers to dox Hodlonaut
5) Calvin Ayre making videos with underage girls dancing for him
6) Claiming that he is Satoshi with falsified and incomplete evidence, since 2015

This person is not Satoshi, neither he had any part at all in the begining.

None of your numbered points concern SV the chain or SV the coin. Merely a couple of people associated with SV.

You so freeking sure there are no unsavory characters in your favorite chain?
1345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 07:04:51 AM
You can ask the same question to that fake copy/paster Jbreher.

Funny. Last time you posted that accusation, I challenged you to find the original from which I was copying. You never provided any such evidence, did you. Lying motherfucking pea-brained asshole.
1346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 06:08:59 AM
Bitcoin SV is tanking.

Up over 85% on the week. Tanking. Unh hunh.
1347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 05:58:51 AM
PS. Jbreher I don't believe you, I think you're being fearful of coming out of the closet about Craig because it would invalidate your arguments but they are already invalidated because all you do is appeal to authority to "Satoshi", Bitcoin regardless of what it is, is not one man's choice. Bitcoin is ours and has proven that so far.

My arguments are most strongly about the folly of intentionally crippling tx capacity. Appeal to authority has nothing to do with it.
1348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 05:55:35 AM
if i were satoshi (ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY VAPOURMINER... err i mean SATOSHI) i would dump the alts and donate them to charities/research/foundations. many of the real bitcoin stash too. i mean satoshi really needs more than a million coins to be happy? jeez and i thought I was being greedy with my pitiful aspirations..

Alternate possible scenario: Satoshi foresaw the possibility of idiots perverting his system, and maintained a large reserve of coin capable of righting the wrong.

#justsayin

But Satoshi said bitcoin was the one true needed coin. Wont he fix this one then?

Cant see him joining team B

https://images.theconversation.com/files/113064/original/image-20160226-26716-v7lcpw.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=926&fit=clip

Unless you are adamant he is Satoshi?

I am not adamant that Craig is Satoshi. I am adamant that Satoshi is Satoshi. But who Satoshi is, is irrelevant from the standpoint of what a Satoshi might plausibly due to 'rescue' his design. Which of course bears directly upon the hypothetical to which I am responding.

Why would he 'fix' the fork that abandoned his principles (i.e., BCH), when there is a fork that carries his principles forward into the current in its current instantiation (i.e., SV)? The notion seems absurd to me.

But the only link to SV is CSW so if its not him that is no link at all.

Want he quit his own project and join someone else's that's like an earlier version of his? lots of ifs

I think you're out in the weeds, but I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to convey. The only link from what to SV?
1349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 05:44:50 AM
Where's 'I don't like spam!' ?

https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/I_d8dd4a_105979.jpg

Dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it.

(not really, but here there are at least 8 varieties of spam to choose from)

Hawaii and Puerto Rico each seem to have more than 8 varieties of Spam that you can't fund find anywhere else.
1350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 30, 2019, 06:58:48 AM
The only flipping I care about is Bitcoin vs Gold.

Gold: $7.5 trillion
Bitcoin: $155 billion

Once bitcoin overtakes gold, each bitcoin would be worth over $350,000.

We live in a digital age, the flip is inevitable.

https://twitter.com/Rhythmtrader/status/1133432395120742402

New poll when is this flipping going to happen!!!! Smiley
This is one of the best “back of the envelope calculations” ever done in the bitcoin valuation thesis.

Haha. Somebody check my archive.
1351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 30, 2019, 06:53:59 AM
Jbreher let's clear the air, do you believe Craig is Satoshi?

I have already stated -- multiple times -- I think it unlikely.

Though I would not be altogether astonished beyond belief if conclusive proof is eventually surfaced.
1352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
do you eat horse bacon?

You had my interest, now you have my attention.

I have never tried it but now I don't know if I can hold out another day without knowing the taste... Is it good?

My first visit to Japan, co-workers took me out for a proper night of Japanese co-worker carousing. Was enjoying plenty yummy foods, along with the free-flowing beers, sakes, and highballs. I think they got on a wink-wink tack of 'freak out the foreigner'. Food got odder and odder. No problem. At horse sushi, several others begged off.

Wasn't bad at all. Must have been colt.
1353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 09:16:31 PM
if a vegan gives you a blowjob is she expelled from the cult or what?

Only if she swallows.









(yes, I knew you were fishing for that obvious response)
1354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 09:15:46 PM
Alright people, don't panic.... But we have 3 people who don't like bacon.


Calmly, and quietly...... Load your rifles.

as long as they aren't cannibals, they eat what ever they want... but I understand your point of view... no liking bacon is suspicious... no mercy against the fanatical vegan who want to criminalize meat tasting !!! Vegans should be used as fertilizers to make the pasture greener for tender meat Smiley

do you eat horse bacon?

vegan eat precious grass !!! they are in competition with cows... and as the life of a cow is worth many time more than a vegan, the choice is made, for them, and against their will !

Long live the Wild furry Cows !

My daughter-in-law is a kosher vegetarian. With the sole exception of being a bacon fanatic.

I swear to Yehovah.
1355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 09:12:38 PM
How do you like your



I like my Lightlife Smart Bacon in Bacon Style.  Roll Eyes
1356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 09:10:01 PM
if i were satoshi (ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY VAPOURMINER... err i mean SATOSHI) i would dump the alts and donate them to charities/research/foundations. many of the real bitcoin stash too. i mean satoshi really needs more than a million coins to be happy? jeez and i thought I was being greedy with my pitiful aspirations..
Alternate possible scenario: Satoshi foresaw the possibility of idiots perverting his system, and maintained a large reserve of coin capable of righting the wrong. #justsayin

Shelby's response:
Quote
Satoshi wasn’t dumb enough to design a decentralized game theory that required his centralization. How can you continue to allow yourself to be scammed and fooled? Always coming back for sloppy seconds, thirds… I’ve tried to help you and @realr0ach, but both you appear to be unteachable.

Funny. Shelby had been copying me in PM on most of the recent traffic, yet neglected to include me in this one. Whatevs.

That said, it is a reasonable point. However, it kind of flies in the face of the probability that Satoshi -- whomever he/she/they may be -- likely has ownership of something on the order of 1Million BTC, BCH, BSV, BTG, etc... Exercised or not, the option remains a locus of centralization.

Nevermind the fact the Shelby has from time to time reversed tack on things he was adamant were settled gospel. I respect him, his intellect, and his reasoning skills. But I gotta go with what I see, not outsource my vision to others.

Lastly, that bon mot was just a devil's advocate response to vapourminer's flight of fancy.
1357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 09:02:33 PM
if i were satoshi (ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY VAPOURMINER... err i mean SATOSHI) i would dump the alts and donate them to charities/research/foundations. many of the real bitcoin stash too. i mean satoshi really needs more than a million coins to be happy? jeez and i thought I was being greedy with my pitiful aspirations..

Alternate possible scenario: Satoshi foresaw the possibility of idiots perverting his system, and maintained a large reserve of coin capable of righting the wrong.

#justsayin

But Satoshi said bitcoin was the one true needed coin. Wont he fix this one then?

Cant see him joining team B

https://images.theconversation.com/files/113064/original/image-20160226-26716-v7lcpw.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=926&fit=clip

Unless you are adamant he is Satoshi?

I am not adamant that Craig is Satoshi. I am adamant that Satoshi is Satoshi. But who Satoshi is, is irrelevant from the standpoint of what a Satoshi might plausibly due to 'rescue' his design. Which of course bears directly upon the hypothetical to which I am responding.

Why would he 'fix' the fork that abandoned his principles (i.e., BCH), when there is a fork that carries his principles forward into the current in its current instantiation (i.e., SV)? The notion seems absurd to me.
1358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 08:51:52 PM

Yet -- if it is CSW's utterances to which you refer -- he advocates a return to the protocol enshrined upon release of 0.1 in perpetuity.

0.1?
that had bugs, needed feedback
satoshi hung around here a long time ironing it out
he left us with 0.3.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479

The software implementation had bugs. Perhaps you are confusing software implementation with protocol?

I may well be confused. Did satoshi change the blocksize limit and nix some of the opcodes and were these protocol changes?

Yes, and debatable. If Satoshi thought these could have been reversed before such time as they became economically interesting (certainly we have evidence that he did as far as the blocksize cap is concerned), then they are arguably not protocol changes.

But that's not really what you had in mind with your 'that had bugs, needed feedback', is it?
1359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 06:44:34 PM
Watchtowers will be released in next LN update.

https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/3133

Great! Coming soon to a Lightning Network near you! The Trusted Third Parties required if you don't want to have your funds stolen while your node isn't online!

Of course, they can't economically be of value in any case where the tx fee for inclusion within the repudiation interval is higher than the funds at risk. But it makes good advertising copy.

Watchtowers are a Good Thing.

Well, they're a Necessary Thing. For LN, anyhoo. For everything else, there's Bitcoin.
1360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2019, 06:42:16 PM

Yet -- if it is CSW's utterances to which you refer -- he advocates a return to the protocol enshrined upon release of 0.1 in perpetuity.

0.1?
that had bugs, needed feedback
satoshi hung around here a long time ironing it out
he left us with 0.3.19 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479

Never mind the bollocks, V8. Jbreher can be a reasonable guy, but as soon as we touch one of his personal icons - be it Jihan, Ver or lately CSW - he becomes a smarmy religious zealot.

You keep conflating my reasoned analysis of protocols with a support of personalities associated with those protocols. Please learn to discern the difference.
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