I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?
Intellectual honesty while reading them. No. You don't get to broadside and run off. I asked for evidence of a particular assertion. One which I do not believe exists within any of Satoshi's collected writings. If you think such evidence exists, either put up, or admit that you are too lazy (or too ... intellectually dishonest) to provide a link to such writings. Really disappointed to see you -- of all people -- to stoop this low. Rhetorical scenario for you to ponder while preparing to react to the above: If Core had foisted something like XRP onto BTC, and Satoshi was aligned with a fork similar to BSV, do you think there is evidence in Satoshi's writings that support the notion that he would decidedly refrain from using his war chest to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals? |
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Seems in your hurry to dismiss what I wrote, you forgot to actually read it. Play by play to follow: 1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
You forgot to mention fraud & plagiarism. My use of the term 'lie' covers that adequately. Incidentally, I note you have not answered the explicit question. OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?
Advantage my ass, it's just FUD. "Advantage"? WTF are you typing about? Incidentally, I note you have not answered the explicit question. 2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?
Fuck his writings, check out his videos & ..... admire the clown. Fuck Satoshi's writing's? Interesting swerve. "check out his videos & ..... admire the clown"? I was not aware Satoshi ever communicated via videos. That must be what I'm missing. Care to point me to them? |
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Well....
1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?
2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?
But if he crashes the market, BSV will also go down with it. I have frequently heard this narrative. I have yet to see any convincing evidence that there is any truth to it. How about you sell me on the idea? My guess is that he wants people to have some doubt and hedge in BSV just in case he crashes the market. But their fork war with BCH brought every coin down, including BSV.
It did for some time, aye. But has of late been rebounding nicely (which admittedly may be at least in part due to very publicized irrelevancies - I make no claim of proportion here). He may be playing a longer game. Aren't we hodlers supposed to be all about the deferred gratification? |
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Thanks dooglus! Great to see some trading pairs back on the charts.
Incidentally, GDAX has merely been rebranded as Coinbase Pro. They still have a GBP-BTC trading pair.
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so what will the next big FUD be? they seem to be out of ammo these days.
The FUD they are heating up is the "advance notice" that CSW plans to crash the market for BTC. THis is what I see bubbling up on twitter... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wucjDQj8w4s Of course, that statement is months old already. But it's being bandied around by all the usual shillspects on twitter recently.. perhaps in advance of the SV Shindig. I have been meaning to answer back your responce to me... but busy.. life... etc. That said, without going "Aussie man bad" do you not think that warning/threat is 1. Horrible. Horrible. Horrible. Bad game theory. Does decades of damage to the entire sector. Undermines the legitimacy of the Bitcoin and the entire crypto sector. Shows that it's all being controlled by a madman etc. 2. The most un-Satoshi like thing possible considering his writings that we have. So we have evil, out of character, and possibly all a lie. Right? Well.... 1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector? OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing? 2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings? |
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Cards, just the user name and the photo of the hat. As a European citizen, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Montecarlo, Milan, it would be perfect. A survey should be prepared, first in which continent and then in which city. @infofront takes note.  I don’t want to give up too many OP sec details on me, but Milan would work good for me. Can give directions for any WO members travelling to Italy, btw. The Piamonte, Milan and the airport is the only thing I know of Italy, good wines and good gastronomy, highly recommended. Haha. How about Firenze, in honor of the first great revolution in accounting (i.e., double entry bookkeeping)? |
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so what will the next big FUD be? they seem to be out of ammo these days.
The FUD they are heating up is the "advance notice" that CSW plans to crash the market for BTC. THis is what I see bubbling up on twitter... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wucjDQj8w4s Of course, that statement is months old already. |
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do we have WO residents participating in whalepool telegram chat? we can make a telegram group too.. you know.. to make the arrangements for the 100k party. My vote goes to make it in Cayman Islands.  The place was basically built from scratch to host the $100K summit/party. I’m up for that. Been three times a loved it every single time. Never been but I think I need to start a W/O Twitte, get the BAT acceptance on it, have everyone donate their free BAT from brave convert it to BTC and put it in a publicly known address and use it as a beer/liquor fund for the party or we could divy it out back to the W/O members. (It wouldn't be much though fair warning.) When 600watt was working on the $1K party, the admission was 1 BTC. This to cover venue, consumables, security, hostesses, travel from airport, etc. Essentially, an 'all-in' price. I might suggest that the $100K party might be similarly funded. Though one full Bitcoin seems a rather steep price. |
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a new ATH would be nice before the halvening, between 30k and 70k after that a crash down and then a new rise after the halvening.
Adoption is rising and big players are getting into the game. Infrastructure is being buildt and me might get an ETF this year.
Things are set up for a new wave of adaption.
The price looks quite parabolic but yet not too steep, so things are looking quite good.
Nobody knows, i can just say it feels like it going to do something that nobody is expecting
That scenario is very unlikely, and undesirable IMO. When that sort of parabolic rise ends, another crypto winter is more likely than anything else. Not necessarily. See the double-pump of 2013 for counterexample. Do I think such scenario likely? No, but I wouldn't deny the possibility. |
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is that drums? drums in the LTC deeps?
they're all at it even eth got a sympathy tympani pump  Haha. Before the tympani, the sunrise trumpet. Preceded yet by the unsettling double basses, contrabassoons, and organ (heh heh - he said organ - heh) laying a foundation for the fanfare to come. Yet beware - the tympani come only at the climactic peak. Accompanied by shattered bones driven aloft. |
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He might be one of dem dere homersexuals.
Even so, why not retire to a tropical paradise? That's what I plan to do. Relative lack of coin? |
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is that drums? drums in the LTC deeps?
they're all at it even eth got a sympathy tympani pump |
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Hmm. CMC says BTC is up 13% in the last seven days. This warms my cockles.
But what's this!? BSV is up 94% over the same period!? Impossibru!
Don't play dumb jbreher. We both know it's mostly because BTC is rallying. BSV doubled because BTC went up by 1/6? OK, if you say so. Who's playing dumb here? |
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I have been wondering if good Hodling is in fact a predisposition.
I have my record decks and records here, my guitars. I've held them all, a long time!
Im holding them to zero lol
Maybe these are reusable skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV40NzkqJrwIndeed. Learned a hard lesson in my youth. Second guitar I ever bought was an Ibanez lawsuit-era ES-175 clone. A good one. In college, I noticed this band rehearsing. No bass player. School had a bass and amp on premises. I offered to sit in on bass. End of the jam, I was asked to join. Sure! No bass. What do I do? Ended up trading the Ibanez (and money) for a bass. Always regretted losing the Ibanez. Hard lesson learned early. Only instrument I've sold since was a wall hanger with no emotional attachment. I Hodl On. Indeed. Incidentally, I still have and regularly play the first-bought guitar. |
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Everybody give a round of applause for your new captain, jbreher.
<<raises arms over head>> Thank You ... Thank You ... Thank You all. BSV isn't gaining ground on bitcoin -- its price proportional to BTC has been steadily falling since its inception.
Hmm. CMC says BTC is up 13% in the last seven days. This warms my cockles. But what's this!? BSV is up 94% over the same period!? Impossibru! Can't believe I took you off ignore just to read more of the same refried propaganda.
But you just couldn't help it, could you? Perv. |
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I seem to be getting discredited & trolled by a couple of the least respected (with the worst trust scores) people on the entire forum. There’s a thread about me started by one of cryptohunter’s alts & every time somebody posts something positive about me he deletes it (it’s a self moderated thread). I’ve had no choice but to start my own Reputation thread. Please feel free to leave your comments/experiences with me here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147811.new#newThanks for your time  Or you could just ignore it. Insightful. There was a time when Trust on this here board was a rating established by counterparties who had engaged in deals with the subject, indicating whether or not said deals were satisfactorily concluded. In this manner, Trust was a relative indicator if engaging in a future deal with said subject would likely result in being defrauded. These days, it seems the Trust system ain't nothing but a popularity contest. Absolutely useless for its stated purpose. The sooner theymos decides to abolish it, the better. In the meantime, knock yourself out chasing that elusive meaningless glitter. |
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Again. If he had named it BTC Wall Observer, then you may have a point. But he did not. So neither do you.
I did not. But of course I meant BTC. Isn't that Bitcoin? No cut and dried answer to that. BTC currently has the bulk of the mindshare. So based upon that possibly fleeting condition, it has a reasonable argument for being 'true' Bitcoin. For now. Other chains (e.g., SV or BCH) are also SHA-256 PoW coins, with an unbroken lineage traced back to Satoshi's genesis block. Unlike BTC's ephemeral claim on the title based upon nothing but market share, these chains make a claim of Bitcoin-ness based upon inherent characteristics of their design. Such as adhering much more faithfully to the Satoshi protocol than does BTC. This early in Bitcoin, the world is not yet infected. We are playing a long game. In time, BTC's market share might dwindle. Probably will, once blocks again become persistently full, resulting in cratered utility. At which point, BTC's claim on the Bitcoin name, being based upon nothing but market share, will dwindle in direct proportion. As SV's market share approaches that of BTC, the answer to your question will be seen as a tossup by the masses. |
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Needs updated price levels. How soon will we be able to add a zero? |
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I have problems keeping up with all these forks. I put my BTC on a paper wallet back in 2014. What forks do I get now for that? BCash, BGold. Do I also get BTC SV? Since I still have no BCash because I did not move my BTC since 2014.
Don't bother. Combined they are worth uh, roughly... very little. Maybe bcash if you have a lot of coins but otherwise, meh. And I thought I was doing pretty well. I'd stoop over to pick up $420. $106 even. |
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I have problems keeping up with all these forks. I put my BTC on a paper wallet back in 2014. What forks do I get now for that? BCash, BGold. Do I also get BTC SV? Since I still have no BCash because I did not move my BTC since 2014.
Yes, SV too. I think there are others as well, though they may not be worth the effort. |
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