can you qoute my slanderous lie?
i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.
where is my lie?
Ok. Claiming that i don't have a private list. but he behaved like little rat. he is now telling tales that devices were already ordered...
This was proved to be true. You claimed it wasn't. A lie. "he lied that he has his miners sealed"
Sent via PM lying that you have ordered goods
That was proven false Sent via PM i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,
That was again proven to be a lie fabricated to mislead people. So those are the lies i was able to compile in 10 minutes. have i spammed your threads with this qoutes? you just getting them from private correspondence between you and me? my only "lie" is fact that i have qouted your answers to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything , answers based on your records. but you have double records, one public one private. so where is my fabricated lie?
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can you qoute my slanderous lie?
i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.
where is my lie?
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my brother was attempting to get money back. within 5 months Beastlymac neither send btc back neither ship miners my brother aksed me to help. i have presented whole case here, only facts.
the fact is beastly was denying that he curiousminer has order anything. finally beastly asked to send email to him, wcich he never responded. please check screenshoots.
after long battle instead refunding money he found another excuse, secret list of orders, on wchich there is only curiousminer with no shipping address.
he never informed cruiousminer that his miners are ready to ship, istead he was asking about adres signining etc.
he stated at group buy that miners will be shipped 13 feb the group buy turned to be a failure, some people got no miners until may, he closed thread to finish case but others asked admins to reopen it.
some of people got trust ruined, not only me my brother but other ones, look at beastlymac feedback.
i had perfect hero member account marked as scammer now becouse beastly thinks that i have scammed him (riskied sum 3.1btc)
in fact i only was helping my brother to get his money back.
that is very sad. and unfair.
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you said that you have not him at your record. how he could think that he is on your private record?
this time you were at home? or again you were not and checked only public one? this tale cannot be used twice.
please pay for your errors, be a man.
bbxx - just a few posts ago it seemed you were ready to close this issue with the refund of the 1BTC and receiving the devices (your brother actually) already paid for. By this post alone I want to say that english isn't your first language... therefore it's possible that this is a result of a communication breakdown. It's unfortunate that your brother lost out, but that happens a lot in this scene - heck, I waited 4 months to get 10 GPUs because of demand. The only suggestion I have to you now is just to accept the refund of 1BTC and the devices already paid for. Beastlymac has answered all of your questions, my questions and any others posted here thoroughly. no. i was not close to close this case with 66% loss due to errors at beastly side. please read pm conversation from screenshoots. beastly was denying that curiousminer ordered anything from him. finally he found secret list and result is as you see.
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what error he did? he asked for refund only, multiple times. you were answering that he has not ordered anything from you.
finally asked for help from me. you found your hidden record with his order and you want to ship it after 5 months of battle.
is it fair?
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you said that you have not him at your record. how he could think that he is on your private record?
this time you were at home? or again you were not and checked only public one? this tale cannot be used twice.
please pay for your errors, be a man.
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I have already answered all of that. You claimed that your brothers order was submitted after he asked for a refund. I proved that to be a lie. I also already answered about the verification please read through my responses that already answer all of these questions. So you accept the fact that curiousminer asked for a refund after his order had been submitted for manufacturing? You have confirmed that curiousminer is at your records and refund is not possible.
if i will get proof that he was not at your records will you refund him?
If you can prove that he is not on my private records as of this date by providing real factual evidence then I will. here you are look at he bottom of the screen you have stated that he is not at your records 3 weeks ago please refund and clear feedback as you have promised above thanks
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You have confirmed that curiousminer is at your records and refund is not possible.
if i will get proof that he was not at your records will you refund him?
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Any comment at this? @ Beastlymac -
You stated that "Curiousminer could have offered the miners for sale in the thread and i would have happily offered as a middle man for the transactions and re assigned the units to a different buyer but he did not choose to do that."
Did he know that was an option? Or was he under the pretense he was getting a refund? I don't know the whole story here, but I'm asking because if I requested a refund and my name wasn't listed on the public reserve list after my refund request... I'd think my refund was in the works.
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please tell first where i had fabricaded anything I have provided all truthful information whilst bbxx has fabricated false accusations such as the one that I proved wrong with factual evidence that curiousminer's order was submitted to the manufacturer on the 7th bbxx attempted to claim this was un true based on no factual evidence.
only i said that group buy was closed at early march. where i claimed that order was not submitted at 7th of feb? about photo and id, you said you want it becouse somebody suggested it to you? he already said that signing message is enough, refund this 1 btc to his address and we will sort the rest. thanks
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Beastlymac,
please answer, did you get refund from manufacturer?
have you refunded btc to people submited refund request after 7.02.2014?
thanks
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As i was sure you are redirecting discussion away from scamming curiousminer.
Please answer my questions
1. how many people you have cheated? 2. have you get any compensation from manufacturer wchich delayed gridseeds wihin 3 months? 3. have you paid any part of compensation to group buy participants? 4. how many people got accounts ruined instead? (i know that is 3 or more) 5. there are some at your profile untrusted feedback, are you going to ressolve their cases? 6. i havent had any trade with you, why you put at my profile untrusted feedback (riskied amount 3.1BTC) ?
about compensation question:
Quote from: Lathanium on 30-04-2014, 05:02:09 You really think that we are going to get compensation? He probably took a hit having to re-order from 2 other sources for us. Hes done with this group buy as he already tried to close the thread.
Do I think we are going to get compensation? Probably not.
Did he promise it? Yes:
Quote from: Beastlymac on 24-03-2014, 02:48:47 For the orders that are locked in for shipping they will ship out this week and buyers will be given compensation.
one of group buy participants who is scammed
Quote from: Beastlymac on 13-03-2014, 02:06:18 Messages responded to. Refunds sent also. I will be refunding more later. For people who had to fix some issues please send them through when you can and i will get your order refunded when i get back online.
Mr. Jinx: Hello Beastlymac, are you back online? I've just pm'ed you (again) with all the information you will possibly need. I'm really waiting for the refund!
03-05-2014, 18:46:50 Mr. Jinx #762 Received my incomplete order today. Just 10 gridseeds with some cables. Controller, power supply and usb hub missing. Great Angry
He was marked as untrusted by beastlymac, becouse he was waiting 90+ days for ordered miners.
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great, i am now scammer, riskied amount 3.1 btc. trust rating ruined.
i had not any trade with him so why he put this?
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Beastlymac you have ruined my almost hero member bitcointalk account.
why?
Did i scammed you?
or it is another trick to lead this topic away from your case?
how many people you have cheated?
have you get any compensation from manufacturer wchich delayed gridseeds wihin 3 months?
have you paid any part of compensation to group buy participants?
how many people got accounts ruined instead?
there are some at your profile untrusted feedback, are you going to ressolve their cases?
i am in contact with manufacturers and experienced trusted people from this forum, you will not go away with that.
please be fair and answer once again my questions.
thanks.
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please see your lies are archived i post facts and you are trying to scam newbies what i have fabricated? provable stories ? this is serious now. you are accusing me ? i am only trying to post whole facts and help refund my brother you have scammed maybe this i have fabricated ? here is proof of your lies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8068823#msg8068823forget about selling anything at bitcointalk until you fairly ressolve this (refund 3.1 btc to curiousminer and other group buy praticipants you have scammed - see your untrusted feedback)
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it is beastlymac communicaction failure, curiousminer asked for refund few times and beastly has never mentioned about no refund, instead he asked for proof of address possession and thousands of other excuses within 5 months. when finally he confirmed his id and fact that curiousminer is not hacked he started new story, no refunds. he lied that he has his miners sealed, becouse he doesnt know what curiousminer ordered (see screenshoots and addidional info) please read this I explained why you where listed on the private list I have a private list that is kept up to date because it is used in the process of posting and checking orders.
and see this is there third super private list only at your brain? Beastly answer my 7 questions!!!1.why you havent refunded him 1 btc at feb? 2.why you havent told you that his miners are ready to ship at feb? 3.why you were dragging out this case within 5 months? 4.why you havent transferred his miners to people from reserve list knowing what he want refund and refund him at feb? 5.why you destroyed his account posting feedback? 6.why you are holding 1 btc refund wanting his photo and id if you dont know even his name and address? 7.when you will refund him wole sum and compensate others for delay?
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1.why you havent refunded him 1 btc at feb? 2.why you havent told you that his miners are ready to ship at feb? 3.why you were dragging out this case within 5 months? 4.why you havent transferred his miners to people from reserve list knowing what he want refund and refund him at feb? 5.why you destroyed his account posting feedback? 6.why you are holding 1 btc refund wanting his photo and id if you dont know even his name and address? 7.when you will refund him wole sum and compensate others for delay?
please answer one after one
Have your brother confirm his ID through a message from the payment address, get your refund/hardware. Is it really this hard to do? he has confirmed his address twice sending encrypted message. it is not a problem of confirming that he is not hacked, it is problem of beastlymac who messed up his groupbuy and want to pay for his errors to group buy participants. his photo and id is not needed becouse beastly cant compare his data with other data he has becouse he doesnt have any due to curiusminer instead shipping address sent refund request
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1.why you havent refunded him 1 btc at feb? 2.why you havent told you that his miners are ready to ship at feb? 3.why you were dragging out this case within 5 months? 4.why you havent transferred his miners to people from reserve list knowing what he want refund and refund him at feb? 5.why you destroyed his account posting feedback? 6.why you are holding 1 btc refund wanting his photo and id if you dont know even his name and address? 7.when you will refund him wole sum and compensate others for delay?
please answer one after one
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beastlymac so you want from him photo with him and his id and bitcoin address to perform refund of 1 btc? wtf? you want to sell his id data? why you need this? signing message from address he paid is not enough for you?
you want to compare his photo and id with what? to make refund.
explain this.
also explain why you are performing such erreus way group buy.
i made some group buys.
allways i have excel sheet with name nick payment status payment address shimpment address dates and customer status i read all pms and modifing sheet.
in such way no one is scammed.
curiousminer send you 3.1 btc with descritpion you should put
5.02 curiousminer, his addres, 3.1 btc, reseved/paid
then at 10.02 he send you pm to refund
you should change his status to refund request and send him info that he can transfer his order to anyone else becouse goods are ordered.
he send you next pm at 17.02 to ask what about his refund you answered that you need his address signed
he sent you all you needed
then you have asked to send email to you
you havent answered this email till now.
how would he imagine that goods are waiting for him at your place (hint another your lie) if you were asking what he has ordered?
why your list was private and he could not see his status? becouse he havent send you shipping address? wtf. he send you message that he dont want miners so his shipping address doesnt matter.
please quote my response and answer my questions.
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sorry for my bias but i am pissed that he also left false feedback and ruined trust rating.
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