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3881  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf blockgrösse on: August 08, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
Was meint ihr, wir am 10.September in China passieren?
http://bitkan.com/event?from=bitcoinmagazinearticle

Uii - da sind ja die ganz grossen Blocker, Säcke, Dicks usw dabei ... hmmm, interessant ist das ja schon.
3882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / UASF coin failed, but how about a real LukeCoin? on: August 07, 2017, 07:00:09 PM
Big Blockers have their own coin now called Bitcoin Cash.

But this guy is extreme as well and should create his own coin now, otherwise this toxic ideas breakes bitcoin finally.

Small blocks and PoW change, go ahead Luke, "the community" will follow and the good thing, you can mine yourself, hows that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6s73q3/luke_dashjr_the_1_reason_segwit2x_will_fail_is/

Should we call that Bitcoin Luck?
3883  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3 Bitcoin ? Segwit , Segwit with 2MB , 8MB Bitcoin Cash on: August 07, 2017, 01:49:24 PM
The hard fork in November can not happen, and therefore will not happen. There is absolutely near-zero support from the community and likewise from the developers. There will also not be "3 Bitcoin". There is 1 Bitcoin, the rest are altcoins. Bitcoin Cash (aka bcash, aka BCH) will always be an altcoin, and the same will apply for any controversial hard fork.

but these ones are still regarded as "bitcoin".
Bullshit. Just because you slap the name Bitcoin in front of some word and premine existing balances, that doesn't mean that it is Bitcoin.

Sigh ...  and just because you slap 'core' on some code it does not need to be good or consensus....

The NYA is active consensus  - go play with your pets and do not destroy Bitcoin (Cash or notCash).
3884  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 07, 2017, 12:24:18 PM
Wann kommt der drop? Ich muss dringend nachkaufen  Undecided

Gedropped wird nich vor 5000!
3885  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hardfork, the best thing that happened to Bitcoin since scaling debate started on: August 07, 2017, 11:56:24 AM
I bet governments have some underground agencies into Cryptocurrency.

Did anyone actually expect the U.S. government to just sit in the bleachers and watch as the world embraced Bitcoin?

Big blocks = digital gold
Segwit = off-chain fiat

Blockstream is working for the US gov. They have to choke the blocksize in order to force users off-chain. That's the only way for western banks to remain in power.

Lukejr is a proud American. He wants a 1kb blocksize.

Shit happens when techies gets to much power and consensus is the victim.
3886  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf - Fork wegen Bitcoin Cash on: August 07, 2017, 11:43:21 AM
Bounce...

0.06 war schonmal nicht schlecht....  auf ein rasantes up mache ich mir aber keine Hoffnungen. Toppy 0.085 maximal 0.1
Mal sehen was so gespielt und gekämpft wird. Igrendwann ist die Airdrop-Munition alle.
3887  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 07, 2017, 11:35:26 AM


2823 Euronen auf Kraken !!! Uiiii
3888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2017, 11:25:40 AM
BitchStamp  3380 !!
3889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3 Bitcoin ? Segwit , Segwit with 2MB , 8MB Bitcoin Cash on: August 07, 2017, 11:02:03 AM
If core still ignores miners and NYA  when building 'consensus' code ... there will be more shit happening - YES.
3890  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 06, 2017, 06:32:20 AM
Ist zwar etwas OT, aber ich muss das posten, weil ich gerade eine Diskussion hatte warum eine Investition in Bitcoin besser ist als in andere Werte. Mein Argument war, dass es irgendwann wieder knallt und als Beispiel habe ich die Autokredite in den USA genannt ohne folgenden Artikel gelesen zu haben. Dieser bestätigt mich wieder (fast) alles richtig gemacht zu haben:

https://www.welt.de/finanzen/article167352113/Neue-Finanzkrise-In-den-USA-platzen-reihenweise-Kredite.html

Guter Artikel. Sobald der Bitcoin halbwegs im Mainstream angekommen ist, wird es mit ihm wohl auch keine Verbesserung geben. Das Argument mit der begrenzten Menge erscheint zweifelhaft. Auch wenn der Fork kurstechnisch derzeit radikal eingestampft wird, der Nächste kommt bestimmt (egal welche Interessengruppe ihn forciert) und schon wird die Geschichte wieder x-beliebig teilbar nach FIAT-Logik/ Geldmengenvermehrung.

Ach ganz vergessen, die Marketcap aller Altcoin"Forks". Wie steht diese gerade in Relation zum BTC? Ist nur eine rhetorische Frage.  Wink

edit: mooon!

Ob bei den Autokreditausfällen viele Diesel dabei sind?  
Gibts eigentlich auch FIAT Diesel ? Die sind das absolute anti-bitcoin Produkt  Grin.  

Ach ja, Deutsche Schummel - Diesel bekommen jetzt alle ein SW Softfork ( hier fällt der Witness sicher auch gleich auf die Strasse). Ein HF ist der Autoindustrie zu teuer.....

Tatsächlich ist der Zinsanstieg derzeit die grösste Gefahr, aber auch für den Staat. Der is ja eh Pleite...da war doch was ?
3891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 05, 2017, 07:38:08 PM
Should I worry about Roger's SegWit2x new coin?

How are we gonna call it? Saw someone commenting on Roger's infamous shitlet he would call it NYACoin...

what this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6rqvdg/announcing_bcash_a_new_cryptocurrency_with_zcash/

anyway, no. whichever new coin comes along, worrying is verboten, bitcoin can absorb all these.

call it 'yet another new shitcoin'

Lol. Nice sybil attack to name attackers...
3892  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 05, 2017, 07:06:35 PM
So, das reicht mir jetzt aber mit der Goldgräberstimmung.
Zwar mache ich mir absolut gar nichts aus Geld, dennoch haben die sprichwörtlichen trockenen Schäfchen noch nie geschadet => All out vorhin bei 2740! Die jüngsten Kurshysterien erscheinen mir wie die Trompeten von Jericho, die kurz davor sind das Fundament in sich einstürzen zu lassen.

Du bist doch der mit der ständigen Bärenstimmung oder?  Grin

(Welch passendes Wortspiel)

ist er nicht bei 600 schon ausgestiegen?  Cheesy

600 ? watt sachste ?
3893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Reasons why Bitcoin Cash will take over Bitcoin on: August 05, 2017, 05:39:52 PM
Bitcoin Cash still under pressure.

No wonder, because many dont like it AND got plenty munition to shoot it down.

So I really wonder its still that high. Lows might be at 0.06 or 0.05.  let's see it will be pumped after the munition is gone.
3894  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: August 05, 2017, 05:32:17 PM
Paarty!

Ohne NYA und Jeff's Schnellcoding wären wir wohl nicht so hoch...

 Grin
3895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 05, 2017, 05:28:08 PM
Thx to Jeff that Bitcoin has good value!

 Grin
3896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Incoming: The chances and the burden of SW2x scaling solution on: August 05, 2017, 09:15:40 AM
The burden is now Bitcoin Cash.

The chance is to use the BCH money to push old Bitcoin.

Another chance is to make BCH osolete sticking to NYA.

But the burden might be old core.
3897  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin Core Developers won't compromise on: August 04, 2017, 06:59:06 PM
Why are you here then? Trolling only?
I am here to prevent the cancerous, paid shills to mislead newbies and newcommers with fake information (and gather more, real, Bitcoin of course Cheesy, among other things). More specifically, to prevent the spread of the scams such as XT, Classic, BU, ABC, BCash, w/e. If you do not support the real Bitcoin, why are you here then?

I m here to confront you and the new bees with constructive critical thinking, way better than your blind sunglass shills for SplitWait.

So go ahead and teach us and the newbees how consensus works and how miners get into the boat?

 And why core failed here so dramatically and has led miners to collude?

How is NYA ?

Why was it needed?

What / who will breake it?

Still want change PoW?
3898  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin Core Developers won't compromise on: August 04, 2017, 05:28:09 PM
The miners have just done a standard risk/ reward analysis and have acted very rational.
Absolute bullshit. Stalling Segwit for random, non technical reasons, is not rational. Then again, who knows who is controlling Ver and Jihan. Smiley

Ok. So you attest that the miners do bullshit.

Why are you here then? Trolling only?

Give up.
3899  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin Core Developers won't compromise on: August 04, 2017, 05:11:13 PM
Most of core devs also assumed some super techy stuff will just do as always and lead to great consensus.

This 'great' consensus we can watch now...
They have assumed that miners would act rationally at all times, which isn't the case. Rusty apologized for his flawed idea of BIP 9 IIRC. Anyhow, consensus has been reached on Segwit and it is happening for sure. Whatever the Bitcoin Core developers have provided is by far superior to any other alternatives. Do I have to remind you why they kept using BU and went with "EC" instead and then another rename to ABC? Roll Eyes

The miners have just done a standard risk/ reward analysis and have acted very rational.
3900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 04, 2017, 04:45:02 PM
Bcash cost of production (difficulty) is now being slashed by 20% per block for the next 6 blocks. Expect miners to follow cost of production slavishly. Forking guys have no idea what they have unleashed ... it will become apparent soon now.

Yes, the existence BCC will destabilize BCT mining.  


So you have been a part of knowingly destabilising bitcoin mining? Neither chain will be stable, the 'hard-fork now!' camp have just stupidly devalued any investment they had in bitcoin (BTC or BCH) ... unless of course you actually work for govvy agents or other actors aiming to do exactly that which you admit to.

Merged-mining is one way BCH can gracefully admit their gargantuan fuck-up and save face (seems they spend a lot of time doing that). You weren't around when we already tried these 'experiments', it's not a pretty outcome. Bitcoin will survive but the credibility of the idiot  loud-mouth crowd doesn't stand much chance (not that they had a lot). Enjoy your forking euphoria, your ultimate downfall has now been sealed.

Big blockers blame small blockers for the fork; small blockers blame big blockers.  I think a split was inevitable given the two distinct visions for Bitcoin's future.

Regarding destabilizing mining, I think what this means is that in the medium term, only one chain will survive (at least with any real value).  The miners will eventually see their incentive to kill off one of the chains. 

The question is which one. 

I think the answer gets easier if the 2x does not come or even a PoW change.
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