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4761  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exciting Bitcoin Projects! on: December 25, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
I CANT BELIEVE WE HAVE SEGWIT OUT BUT PEOPLE DONT WANT TO ACTIVATE IT

http://segwit.co/

What is wrong with you people?

Looks like SW is not the 'no-brainer' solution some wanted it to be


Or


It needs more time with proper maketing


Or


More brutal pressure and chilling


Or


Compromise with BU


Or


 HF into 2 separate Bitcoins
4762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2016, 11:40:49 AM
Are you late for buying Christmas gifts? I'll tell you what to do! Buy some bits  Grin



Most of all christmas presents are coming from China, thaaaaaaaanx!

 Grin  Grin  Grin
4763  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2016, 10:16:40 AM
Anyone have a link to the google docs chart that circulated around in 2014 outlining a standard technology adoption curve and with bitcoins price mapped along side?


There are some threads here. I ve done a simple log log chart normalizing the exponential adoption very good:



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=800330.msg17016542#msg17016542


Yes I need to update this and add a proper timescale at bottom...but you can imagine, below 1000 = nothing happened!



4764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 21, 2016, 02:03:39 PM
ASK sides are getting lower - all open exchanges order books look like to more ralley ....
4765  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 20, 2016, 09:06:22 PM
Ich hab mal eine Trading-Frage, vll kann mir einer von euch Experten helfen:)
Ich habe bei BitMex seit einiger Zeit eine kleine Long-Position offen, wenn ich jetzt einen Stop-Limit-Sell-Order reinsetzte mit sagen wir 770$ Stop Preis und 765$ Limit Preis, wird bei 770$ dann automatisch ein Sell-Order ausgelöst unter der Bedingung, dass genug Buy-Orders bis 765$ vorhanden sind um meinen Sell-Order erfüllen ? Ist das richtig ?

Und was macht ein reiner Limit-Order ?

Wenn du long bist, dann kannst du eine stop ( loss ) order nur unter dem jetzigen kurs eingeben. Diese wird dann zum nächst besten preis ausgeführt (market) , falls der aktuelle preis unter dein stop preis fällt und du verkaufst deine long position.

Eine limit order ist zum Kaufen zu einem tiefern kurs als jetzt oder zum Verkaufen zu einem höheren kurs als jetzt.


Eventuell sprichst du aber von einer OCO order ?  one cancels other ?
Das ist eine bedingte order aus beiden Stop Loss und Limit order. Falls eine von beiden orders ausgeführt wird, wird die andere automatisch gecancelt bzw ungültig.
4766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DECENTRALIZED crypto currency (including Bitcoin) is a delusion (any solutions?) on: December 18, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
I wrote a more easy to visualize explanation of the Byzantine agreement proof... can y'all understand this?

Quote from: @AnonyMint’s whitepaper
The proof in the case where nodes can be malevolent is easy to visualize with 3 colored marbles as voters: red, white, and blue. Given 3 jars representing ballot boxes for 3 elections, two marbles can be placed in each jar without any marble voting more than twice, i.e. no voter has cheated yet the result is ambiguous. Declaring any of the jars as the first epoch, results in two quorum choices (forks) for which jar is the next epoch. One jar has red and white, the next red and blue, and the last white and blue. This is why the proof requires that the excess of the quorum be less than ¹/₃ (aka “-¹/₃”). So by adding a green marble, the ambiguity is resolved because the green marble can only be placed in two of the three jars― again presuming no voter cheated to vote more than twice. Thus the +²/₃ instead of ¹/₂+ is required for quorums in the presence of possible malevolence given an  asynchronous network, because the ordering of the quorums can’t be proven.

Note if any 3 of the 4 marbles are colluding, i.e. ²/₃ or more (aka “+²/₃”) of the voters are malevolent, they can vote for as many conflicting quorums (forks) as they wish and it will be ambiguous which of the 4 marbles is cheating, because given 3 sets of 3 jars, a different one of the 3 cheaters can vote in each set. And the honest marble has to vote on the fork which the quorum is extending, because otherwise not voting is indistinguishable from unresponsive. It can’t be irrefutably proven that the 3 malevolent marbles were cheating because they can each claim that other one became unresponsive; thus voting for more than two quorums became necessary. And the honest marble voted more than twice also. Propagation order and responsiveness can’t be proven nor disproven in an asynchronous network.

Nope, sorry.

Any graphs to help me?
4767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am sorry to say, Mike Hearn was right. on: December 17, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
These Circle jerkers will soon realize that they made a huge mistake to turn against the Bitcoin community.
They didn't turn against Bitcoin, Bitcoin turned against them.  

The 1MB anti-spam limit was in place when they started their business.

Oh, and...

...and by "giving up" the OP means he will continue to post FUD well into the future!

Still here I see, bumping FUD, etc...


Oh good, you are a hero member and so I think you are able to define exactly:

What is SPAM ( in terms of transactions ) ??

I only accept mathematically and logically strict definitions.

Otherwise anything and anybody using this word I will categorize as FUD and ignore.


Tx in advance.
4768  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-12-15] Switzerland: How the World’s Densest Bitcoin ATM Network is Doing on: December 16, 2016, 01:09:38 PM
o wow, thats great. Leave it to the Swiss to help grow the BTC revolution Cheesy

ALL train stations in Switzerland, geez that country looks better and better every year to move to haha

Yeah, what a strange world. Bitcoin should be the universal micro payment money that everybody should use,

now only the richest nation in the world can afford the fees and really use it.

Thx BScore


 Roll Eyes

groan ...

If the blockchain transaction fees were zero, Sweepay would still be charging their 6% or so for bitcoin purchases thru these machines.

You're just trolling.




You used right grammar:  'fees were'  - in the past!  Or would you claim you or anybody else use bitcoin for micro payments ? 
4769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So where is the Bitcache thing by KimDotcom on: December 15, 2016, 08:37:12 PM
I hope segwit gets activated eventually. Only morons are actively blocking it.

you do know that LN can function without segwit.
the benefits of segwit helping LN and helping bitcoin are exaggerated.

seems kimdotcom is using the blockstream concept of LN, hense the delay in kimdotcom's service.
however there are many many other concepts that dont need segwit.

but the powerhouses choose their own partners even if it means making the community wait

its just kicking a stone down the road to explain a year delaying real scalability.
but thats a topic for another discussion.

Yes I know and I will eat my hat once bitcash is up but LN stalled.

Why the hack SW is sold to be needed for this much more needed 2. layer scalers?

I might be really tooooo duuuuump.
4770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Extreme Flaws Of Bitcoin on: December 15, 2016, 08:28:49 PM
If you want to play big in bitcoin, either with pure investing or mining, you just have to run enough own nodes in order to ensure the safety of your bitcoins.

If our world will adopt bitcoin in big size, than distribution comes back and node and miner numbers will be sufficient.

This is just the beginning. Take your popcorns and wait. Bigger problems are in the scaling!
4771  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-12-15] Switzerland: How the World’s Densest Bitcoin ATM Network is Doing on: December 15, 2016, 07:13:16 PM
o wow, thats great. Leave it to the Swiss to help grow the BTC revolution Cheesy

ALL train stations in Switzerland, geez that country looks better and better every year to move to haha

Yeah, what a strange world. Bitcoin should be the universal micro payment money that everybody should use,

now only the richest nation in the world can afford the fees and really use it.

Thx BScore


 Roll Eyes
4772  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 15, 2016, 02:07:37 PM
http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/EUR

All time high in Euro!!!!!! auf Bitstamp ... nett das mal wieder zu sehen

Erschreckend leeres Orderbuch auf der Briefseite... da kanns nur eine Richtung geben!


 Grin
4773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 15, 2016, 08:29:09 AM
Seen from an analytic perspective (try to be a bitcoin-outsider) the situation looks like this:


Core & BU are both willing to solve the needs and have provided 2 controversial solutions.


If  one of those solutions have the class of a 'no-brainer' (as many try to chill / dictate in different forums & ways)  - so why is there any need to discuss this?


So either one of those solutions is not such a 'no-brainer'  = they failed to deliver

or


core / BU  failed on convincing / marketing their solution.


Both do not lead to anything thats a no-brainer.

Only way out of this dead lock:

Combine core & BU solutions (I 'd recommend) and try again  or fork...

Cheers
4774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 14, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
I would do if the  blocksize limit falls with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQSPaLSOxk


- Reunion the community - we all want the same  - scale !
4775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: December 14, 2016, 08:41:04 AM
They might start doing this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULQSPaLSOxk

They don't like to be controlled esp by US-guys, TX fees, censoring ....

Depend on how the dev stuff stalls ? They can also think and code....
4776  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: December 13, 2016, 09:21:47 PM
Hier zeigt das nette Maidli vom Aktionärs TV das lustige kleine Bitcoin Tierchen ,

das wiedermal rund 100% plus in 2016 gemacht hat und den Vontobel im Spagat dazu


https://youtu.be/15EhCdBOM2Y


Viele Spass!

( und nein, beim SBB kann man noch keine Tickets für Bitcoin kaufen...)
4777  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain is the Trojan Horse that will push Bankers and Investors finally to Bitcoin! on: December 13, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
guess what, man? if you think everyone uses bitcoin and then give up using fiats, the fiats down so are the bitcoin. anyway i don't understand the 'trojan horse' mean. Huh

There is not just black  OR white in our world. FIAT might always be there and will go born and bust after its usual life cycle.

The Trojan Horse is used here as a metaphor that means blockchain buddies MUST look into bitcoin for deeper understanding of the technology. And so I assume most of those 'brains' will get infected by bitcoin ( + its idea), because that works already and has much more behind than just pegging FIAT or stock onto a closed blockchain.
4778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain is the Trojan Horse that will push Bankers and Investors finally to Bitcoin! on: December 13, 2016, 08:18:49 AM
Banks in developed countries already know about bitcoin, but it's a fiat competitor - so it won't be adopted by them.
Blockchain on the other hand it gaining entrance into the banking industry.

I was listening to a radio program and they were talking about Blockchain technology being incorporated into Chinese banking system and they didn't talk about Bitcoin once. The reported asked about Bitcoin and they didn't even acknowledge the question. IMO they're, banks, are going to try and do an end run around Bitcoin BC they're boxed out right now.

Will they succeed or will they fail is the question?

All those blockchain bubblers try to ride this hype and collects VC .  But once it comes down to realize it they all need expertise and you can ONLY get it by deep dive into bitcoin - bingo: I cannot see how a real blockchain will work w/o a token and game theory - could you?

Rest of 'blockchainer's are poor distributed database monkeys  - noSQL is older...
4779  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain is the Trojan Horse that will push Bankers and Investors finally to Bitcoin! on: December 12, 2016, 04:15:44 PM
No way they will into bitcoin just because blockchain technology, all they do is integrate blockchain technology into their system and says it's the real/best usage of blockchain.
They only use if they think they can earn profit by doing so, otherwise they will stick with their fiat currency.

So e.g. Vontobel already does ...
4780  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain is the Trojan Horse that will push Bankers and Investors finally to Bitcoin! on: December 12, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
Finally, after this blockchain hype we see right now, attracting so many thinkers , projects and budgets, many of the intelligent will finally debunk the real power of bitcoin itself.

If this is because of its feature to be a mostly uncorrelated investment class, a money transfer system or together with Rootstock on top some smart contract / dapp enabling super asset, who knows?

I say it will.

 Grin

I don`t see a "blockchain hype" anymore.There`s no hype about blockchain in the news,social media,etc...

I wouldn`t say that blockchain is a "trojan horse".Sounds like a virus. Grin

Not sure what kind of news you are looking at.

Checkout IBM, Infosys, Microsoft, EPAM, Accenture, EY , Deloitte .... lot of the big players are heavily looking into BLOCKCHAIN with many of their brains, consultants and devs. So they all need to learn about bitcoin first. If you learn bitcoin you need to use it and may stay in it & go improve it as well.

Yeah - could be seen as a virus.
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