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41  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 08, 2014, 04:04:26 PM
42  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 08, 2014, 01:42:48 PM
this isn't about you right now Shawn...we're trying to see if the debt matter can be resolved
between KingofSports and Bigbitz.

Actually, fanboy, this is about Vod and his misuse of the default trust system, perhaps you should read the thread instead of insta posting pro-Vod nonsense.

I don't expect you to contribute anything objective here, you've been sucking Vod off since my quarrel with him a while back and it seems that's your favorite thing to do around here. I guess if we were to go in to alt accounts and accusations of shilling, you'd be a prime candidate.

A lot of what I see when it comes to Vod and a little circle of followers reminds me of a movie I recently saw, called 'The Giver'. "Stop taking your meds people!". People that have seen the movie will know what I'm talking about. I have turned a few people that once believed in Vod (evidence posted) which Vod even tried to bribe with green default trust to help him on his psychotic crusade.

When it comes to KingofSports and Bigbitz, this is a dispute between two people, one persons word against another persons word. I'm not necessarily siding with anyone here and I don't know KingofSports beyond what I've read. While I don't condone death threats I can see what's drove him to it with Vod.

Who are we to say what's what here? How do we know Bigbitz is not being unreasonable or making up stories? We only have two people that ACTUALLY know the facts saying different things. Then we have Vod coming in a year later without any additional evidence saying "This is so, it shall now me that KingofSports is a scammer!". A year later, really? With no additional evidence of anything...?

As someone that does not blindly trust Vod and has the ability to be objective, I can see that KingofSports has done plenty of honest trading and I doubt he would want to ruin his account over $300 bucks. I can also see that he's very hot tempered and probably will not cave to blackmail or threats. How do we know that Bigbitz isn't trying to get one over on him? How do we know there was not some sort of honest mistake that's occurred? Is it really the most likely scenario that with all of the opportunity to scam that he's had that KingofSports would have  thrown it all away on such a small opportunity? If I was going to scam, I personally would have waited for the big payoff, not $300 bucks. I would not have labeled him a scammer over this. But because Vod has suddenly said so, the blind followers who can't think for themselves suddenly say it must be so. It's truthfully sickening to watch.

Wake the fuck up people. The stupidity here is horrifying. Think for yourself for one second. What makes the most sense?

Vod is nothing more than a mentally disturbed troll who enjoys harassing and taunting people with his defaut trust "aside from the few obvious scams he points out". Why else would people like myself and KingofSports have gone to this much trouble to let people know? We're not the only ones but people are too lazy and blind to read the proof and the threads against Vod.

This forum practically has zero moderation and it's no one's job to get the facts and make a ruling which is why this bullshit has gone on for so long and gone so far. This is the wild west of forums and if anyone's an outlaw, it's dirty sheriff Vod and his gang of corrupt deputies. If there was someone actually paying attention and we had some real and fair rules to abide by with some real oversight by a mentally stable admin, I guarantee you that Vod would have been shot down a long time ago and probably banned by now.
43  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 08, 2014, 05:17:52 AM
A lot of people eagerly miss the point here.

Sure, Vod may 'bust' a few scammers (if you call stating the obvious and posting negative trust really difficult or challenging, I personally think he just enjoys the power trip based on my conversations with him).

The point here is that he not ONLY does that, any time he get's pissed off at someone for something, he also leaves them a negative and calls them a scammer. Falsely accusing them of being a thief or a scammer, warning the community not to trade with them. JUST because he has a personal dispute with them. Look at what he did to me if you need proof. I've never scammed or attempted to scam anyone. He originally called me one, I confronted him about it publicly and quickly shot it down and make him look foolish. Did he remove it? Nope, he was pissed that I called him out and make him a fool.

After poking enough holes in his bullshit, he didn't remove it, he just changed it to say something else based on the arguments we had about his ORIGINAL bullshit he left. He's changed it multiple times but as you can see now, it's just claimed I lied about him and I'm basically untrustworthy because of that..... (ya, if you get falsely labeled a scammer by some dickhead, you're going to get mad and stick up for yourself if you're innocent).

So ya, Vod is a piece of shit and busting some obvious scammers doesn't make up for the abuse that he does to others. He doesn't police this forum because he wants to make it a better place, he does it because he's got some unique power and the guy also has a severe a god complex. Do you see him trying to make any other changes around here for the better? This forum has about a 1000 problems that need help and all this fucknut does it call out some obvious scams and harass people.

I'll admit, he's not a dumb piece of shit, he's a great social engineer, he's got a ton of people around here fooled and unless you're eventually one of his innocent victims, you'll likely never be the wiser (unless of course you pull his dick out of your mouth for 5 minutes and actually read the threads and see what he's done and how low he's gone 'plenty of really low down shit he's done immortalized in quotes').

Really though, if you're considering posting any more sucking on Vod's cock replies, go actually read some of the shit from our back and fourth and then ask yourself if he's the comic book hero you thought he was. With all the lies, pedo posts he made and negative trust abuse he's done, he's no better than some obvious scammer in my book. Even obvious scammers try to do a few good things to convince people they're trustworthy. Only difference here is that Vod's been successful with it and he can abuse and feed his god complex until his hearts content with carte blanche authority from the idiots in this community that haven't bothered to actually do any real research.
44  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 07, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
Vod sure has a lot of fanboys riding his cock. Not matter what anyone says, how coherent and reasonable, the fanboys still just chime in with the same ole crap. At least it's obvious...

If you're hoping for a green default by playing fanboys, I don't think Vod wants to be 'that' obvious but he's known to do it on occasion. You've gotta have some magic lips and get your nose super dirty.

Good start!
45  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 06, 2014, 01:36:13 AM
I actually feel like I'm doing a good thing by telling my story so I don't mind spending a few minutes here and there to educate the community. If I can even show one person that believed in Vod that he's not what he seems, it will have been worth it.

I realize it's difficult going up against him because people automatically believe his nonsense just because of that default trust but I'm not letting that detour me. I've honestly got nothing to gain by doing this other than the aforementioned.

I guess I'm just one of those people that if wronged will not rest until it is righted. In this case, I suppose that's until Vod goes away or get's demoted. I realize a lot of people think it's a futile battle but at this point it's more like a hobby to me. It makes me feel good to speak out against him, it's like my good deed for the day, speaking out against the corrupt and fighting evil so to speak.

The OP emailed me in this case and made me aware of this, so I chimed in with my story about Vod.
46  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 05, 2014, 05:57:17 AM
Most people threatening violence are full of shit. They will also likely end up in jail in the event that something happens to Vod.

As cool as your avatar is, I think you should give up your vendetta against Vod and accept that you have negative trust for the immediate future. Contribute to the community and maybe your trust from him will be removed, although he is not the only one that seems to not trust you.

First of all - I am not the one who's threatened any sort of violence against Vod. I am just another one of Vod's victums from his negative trust abuse.

All of the other negative trust was a result of Vod's circle backing him up and he and I argued. If you'll notice most of those people do the same when Vod marks someone. Kind of pathetic.

Also, I've already accepted that Vod will not remove his negative rating nor will his good friend KWH, so if / when I do any sort of business, it's not from this account anymore. So I can give two fucks what he does to this account at this point, lesson learned. I will always however have this account to speak out against him and educate the community about him, until this forum ceases to exist.
47  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 04, 2014, 06:31:17 AM
Vod, don't bother replying as you are just continuing to stir the pot. Same for you king, just leave it alone.


aww wheres the fun in that?

Thanks for the kind words.

I'll reply only once more in this thread... when I return from my vacation in March.

I'll be sure to quote KoS where he "guarantees" I'll be injured/killed in Mexico.   Wink

Do you see how smug you are, even when someone threatens your life? You've got a real bird brain some times buddy. Why would you challenge someone that you've pushed to that point?

I hope he doesn't kill you, even though you're a major piece of shit. I do kind of hope he puts you in the hospital though, just to teach you some humility because you hide behind your monitor and talk shit all day long.

For the rest of the fan club - if what I've said already doesn't persuade you one bit, I give up. If you think giving someone a feedback which destroys their account here, because you have a personal problem with them is 'fair and right', labeling them a scammer, then you're just as fucked up as he is.

If you notice, Vod only ever comes in with these one liners that really don't say anything except "He lies" and "He's crazy" but if you read my posts or any of my old posts, you'll see that I actually point out what he's done with proof. Vod = no proof and no details of anything.

I also realize there's plenty that agree with me and I appreciate the PM's and I know you won't speak out against someone with default trust in public (in fear of relaliation as we've already seen happen on multiple occasions). Very unfortunate and very unfair for me or anyone who opposes him but I know people read this that have some sense, even if they don't comment and I appreciate all of the kind words in PM, even if you wish to remain anonymous. Makes the time I spend worthwhile.

One day Vod will either  be gone or demoted, and you can all speak your mind.
48  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 03, 2014, 11:47:26 PM
Shawn, I bet there's at least a small possibility that Vod would eventually fix your original neg feedback if you recanted everything and apologized and tried to make peace, but you seem to be just be on the path of continuing to make him wrong...I don't think that's the way to "win friends and influence people." 

Honestly, I hate Vod with every single cell in my body. I have no intention of apologizing to him, ever, especially since I do not feel that I was wrong in challenging him. I may have done some things in anger (far less damaging than what he did) but this guy to me, is the heart of despicable mostly because he is very good at fooling people. He puts on this massive charade and makes people think ALL he does is bust scammers. It sickens me to see how many people he's got fooled because I'm sure there's tons of people that he's been abusive with.

If they fought him and disrupted his god complex, he would have tried to destroy them like he does to me. He constantly just calls me a liar, but do I really sound like I'm lying about anything? Everything I've claimed in the past I've tried to back up with screenshots, links to other posts and witnesses. He calls me a liar but he's super lazy about it now, he wouldn't even know what I'm supposedly lying about.

BUT, in a perfect world - Even if Vod were to remove this false negative, we've still got his buddy KWH, who originally left me a negative on behalf of Vod to back him up, then changed it to some weird crap when he lost his shit (I think the guy went a little crazy or something).

Vod has caused damage to me and because of that, I get a lot of PM's from people with information on Vod and there's quite a few people out to get Vod back for what he's done.

One day, if Vod continues on this path, he's going to do it to the wrong person. There wont be any threats, there wont be any battles back and forth on the forums. Martin is going to get some karma back at him.

I'm not saying I plan to do anything to him. I just know what he's done to me and there's a lot of people that wouldn't sit idle over something like that.

If I come across a non violent way to do get Vod back one day because someone contacts me, (perhaps testifying against him in court or providing a police report against him), you can best believe that I will help push that initiative forward in every way I can.

Other than that, I'll always be around here to provide my story any time he's doing this to anyone, if they ask for my help. That's pretty much all that this account is for anymore.
49  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 03, 2014, 10:15:51 AM
The problem is that the whole thing that led up to the guy threatening violence in the first place was Vod provoking him and destroying his account. Then Vod offers to remove it if the guy plays along in Vod's game of telling him the hotel name and dates he'll be staying at in Mexico. What's that got to do with running a scam here and being on a mission to steal from people? That is just a personal conflict with him and Vod, which again Vod is using his default trust powers to taunt and abuse the guy with.

I simply offered to remove his negative trust to prove he was lying.  And it worked.   You know all about lying, don't you Shawn?   Roll Eyes

Like most pathological liars, Shawn is going to continue to regurgitate the same old garbage over and over hoping new people believe him.  But he got caught too and I'm done with him.

Point me here when KingofScams posts my personal info.  Otherwise, I'll post when I return from my well needed vacation.   Smiley

That's funny. You 'claim' I was lying about stuff and all of the stuff you claimed I was lying about were personal attacks back at you. As if that even has anything to do with scamming on the forum.

You attacked me just as much as I attacked you, and then some. Only difference is that I provided proof of your deceptions most of the time, where as you simply relied on your reputation to fortify your claims.

Again, point here: You left me negative feedback saying I'm not trustworthy solely due to a personal dispute between the two of us, it had NOTHING to do with scamming anyone on this forum or even attempting to.

You don't leave false negative trust, my ass.
50  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 02, 2014, 10:53:29 PM
I think KingOfSports has realized he has nothing on me.   Smiley

Why would someone want to hurt/kill me anyway?  All I do is detect scams and liars with a near perfect record.  If in the past I've left wrong feedback, I have removed it 100% of the time. If you have the coin to pay to have someone killed, do the community a service and go after Tradefortress or some other loser that has intentionally scammed hundreds.

I am the good guy here, and only the scammers will say otherwise.

Exactly... The kind of people who would say threaten violence because
they were left negative feedback (that they actually deserved no less)
are immature brats, and that's putting it nicely.





The problem is that the whole thing that led up to the guy threatening violence in the first place was Vod provoking him and destroying his account. Then Vod offers to remove it if the guy plays along in Vod's game of telling him the hotel name and dates he'll be staying at in Mexico. What's that got to do with running a scam here and being on a mission to steal from people? That is just a personal conflict with him and Vod, which again Vod is using his default trust powers to taunt and abuse the guy with.

I am by no means justifying that it's ok to threaten someone's life but I can see what led up to it. Vod did not act like an adult here and he constantly provoked the guy with snide and taunting posts, shoving his default trust down the guys throat constantly and making fun of the situation. He drove him to it and angered him to the point of lashing out like that. Was that necesary? Was that becoming of someone that's been entrusted to police this forum? Not in my opinion.

Vod says he never leaves unjust or false negative feedback but even his fan club constantly says he's quick to the trigger most of the time. If you were a cop that was quick to the trigger like he is, you would be out of a job in a week and most likely in prison.

Maybe he does remove some of it 'if you kiss his ass, don't argue with his reasoning in the first place and beg for mercy', not everyone is that spineless and some of us feel compelled to stand up against tyranny. In my case, the current feedback I have from him is 100% based on the conflict I had with him after the bullshit negative he originally left. Nothing about it has anything to do with the original reason he left it and everything about it has to do with him pulling things out of context, desperately trying to find things to say against me based on the argument that ensued AFTER the fact. Yet, before I really got in to it with him, he refused to remove it.
51  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 02, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
The whole problem is people grief... they leave negative feedback for a difference of ideas.

Like take mine for instance, did I engage in any trading. Nope, have I ever took coins from someone nope. But I got negative feed back because I exposed someones screwed up business plan. To them it was FUD....

Guess what happend, exactly what I said would happen they lost 13k of that investment and the OP of the post got 0 negative feedback for it.


I wish some one would tag the guy that tagged me with negtive trust for trust abuse, until he removes it.

Just carry on as if it never happened. It may affect your future exchanges but people will still engage with you.

The problem with default trust is that it's the only feedback that's in your face and visible any time you make a post. Instantly that's what people judge you as because unfortunately most just take a look at the books cover and decide based on the visible surface. Taking the time to explain the whole situation to everyone would be too time consuming and tedious and it drastically limits what you can achieve in terms of doing business on this site anymore from your account. It's literally financially damaging for some people and Vod could couldn't care less about that.

So anyone with default trust should be required to use it far more responsibly or be removed from it. Default negative trust should only be applied if there's been an actual scam that's taken place or undeniable evidence that you attempted to scam / steal from someone.

In Vod's case, he freely uses it for anything that bugs him about anyone. He even gave people negative trust that stuck up for me when mine and his back and forth was going on as well as offering positive trust to those who would speak against me (I have proof of this). He was trying to win our argument by blackmailing and bribing. My only tool was to poke holes in his bullshit and this ended up leading to his other friends leaving me negative too. That is extremely abusive and if people gave a shit about the quality of this forum and not abusing that default trust system, he wouldn't have it. I have never been anything but honest and straight forward with business around here. Now I'm labeled a scammer for speaking up against Emperor Vod's abuse.

I realize people keep saying "But he busts scammers!". True, he may bust scammers but that's not all he's doing. He's satisfying his own personal agenda as well. If you have the power to decide who can and can't do business here, you should act with some rules / policies. He may as well just be Theymos since he can destroy people's accounts in 30 seconds.
52  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 02, 2014, 11:17:18 AM
don't give me negative feedback Vod  Tongue

Case and Point - ROFL

And I have never have given negative feedback for no reason.

Case and point - thanks Shawn!   Smiley

Actually, you have Martin.

In my case, you changed the reasoning for leaving the feedback multiple times. In the end, the feedback was solely a result of my arguing with you over the original one (trying to say I was scamming). The scamming accusation then disappeared and it was a result of me being 'childish' in your opinion, therefore THAT's why I'm not trustworthy..... How many times did you change it? I lost count... You kept chaning it until you felt it was something that could stick and your fan club wouldn't start to agree that you were on a power trip. You've constantly lied and taken things completely out of context to fit your agenda.

So I'd say you left false negative feedback for me, multiple times.

Anyway, you're trash posing as the scam police. I really wish scam policing is all you were but you're probably one of the biggest drama queens / trolls on this forum and the default trust empowers and makes you an addict like a 12 year old to World of Warcraft. You can't stay away. Even in threads like this where any real adult that knew what he was doing was right, would not feed the flames. You on the other hand, marvel in it and feed it as much as it feeds your hunger for drama. I think you actually like stirring the shit like this, for you it's a game. For others, it's their reputation being destroyed and labeled to those in the community who don't know better, no longer trustworthy to do business with, just because of a personal conflict with you.

We won't even go in to all of the pedo stuff you pulled when you got really pissed off, since you did it on shill accounts for deniability.
53  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: December 01, 2014, 07:14:57 AM
don't give me negative feedback Vod  Tongue

Case and Point - ROFL
54  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: November 30, 2014, 11:46:22 PM
#thisescalatedquickly

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure threats to do harm is off-limits to the forum as it's a crime.


I honestly don't think anything is off limits in this forum. If publically labeling someone as a pedophile, that is not, creating false stories and accounts to push that agenda, is ok, why would threatening someone not be ok?

This forum doesn't moderate much of anything. Look at the stuff that Vod said about me and the stuff he did to me when his negative trust didn't detour me from calling him out. He changed a lot of it, but all the pedo stuff he said about me is frozen in quotes / posts.
55  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: November 30, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
That's funny, Vod giving the guy negative feedback if he doesn't say the name of his hotel. Similar to him giving me negative feedback for arguing with him.

Ya, cause arguing with Vod or not playing his game is grounds to labeling someone a scammer.

Vod doesn't abuse? Ya right...

If you're in the default trust circle, you shouldn't be going around using it for personal vendettas, screwing up legit people on this forum because he just plain doesn't like them.

I seriously hope someone does put him in the hospital, might teach him some humility. I'm sure if he got confronted in real life, his attitude would be a whole lot different than it is here.

I'm also sure the dude does bust a few scammers here and there but he also clearly uses the default trust for his own abusive personal reasons. Quite obvious he goes around marking people as scammers that are not any time he's got an issue with them on a personal level.

Hope his fanboys will wake up and see that.
56  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: November 30, 2014, 12:21:41 AM
Not to mention all of the pedo nonsense he did against me when I made him mad.


That right there is the reason for your negative trust - you made me upset and anyone that makes me upset get's negative default trust put on them. It's my little powertrip around here. I don't actually need to abide by any guidelines or rules for it, I can toss negative trust around for fun because no one can stop me.   Undecided




Fixed.
57  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: November 30, 2014, 12:06:43 AM
Vod doesn't give a neg trust to people he has no proof against.

You could not be more wrong here.

In my case, he did it just to spite me because his reason for giving me negative trust had nothing to do with evidence or proof originally, later he admitted that and said he was leaving it because I agrued with him about it and because I challenged him and pointed out all the BS and misinformation he had, he said he was leaving it there because I pissed him off (not because i was not trustworthy or have ever done anything untrustworthy). Not to mention all of the pedo nonsense he did against me when I made him mad.

There's plenty on this forum and shows exactly what I'm talking about. He leave me neg trust simply because I argued with him.
58  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod Identity Found...If he has hurt you, join in. Do a service to all. on: November 29, 2014, 07:25:28 PM
Looks like Vod is up to his old tricks again, accusing people without any evidence and trolling because work is slow and he's bored.

If you want an example of how 'reasonable' Vod is, just look back to the back and forth we had. I am a full member, was around here for a while, never scammed anyone and had successful positive trades with no issues. Vod misunderstood something, instantly gave me negative and refused to remove it. We faught for weeks. After I had exposed him to many on the forum for his true nature he began making alt accounts and calling myself and anyone that sided with me a pedophile as well as leaving them negative feedback.

This guy is the biggest abuser on this forum and until one day he's removed from the default trust circle, he will continue to abuse for amusement. The guy is a mega-troll posing as a scam buster / do-gooder. The guy is mixed up in the head and needs meds and the people that put him in default trust enable him.
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Quote
Domain information
RiverBoatBicoin.com - https://who.is/whois/riverboatbitcoin.com
Whois guard is payed, so the owner is hidden

If you want his real info, just send whoisguard a C and D letter saying he's spreading FUD and conducting illegal activities.  They won't hesitate to return his full registration information and history to you. I've done this many times with whoisguard.
60  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING: SCAM] ☆★ River Boat Bitcoin Casino ★★ Robert Panzer ☆★ RiverBoatBTC on: August 02, 2014, 06:58:14 PM
So this guy is going around threatening to dox random people in  threads that has nothing to do with him. In fact, he already doxed KWH in public.

What's the deal with this troll?
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