Funny you say that in the same post you say that you can't sign a message... I may not know if you are lying or not, but signatures don't lie; so that's kind of the point
I would be leaning to believe the OP if not for the ridiculous demand to pay 8 BTC for signing a message... You can either sign it or not. TBH I wasn't serious when I said that. He was refusing to pay $95 and I thought that was ridiculous. I am certain no one in the right mind will pay 8 BTC and both of us knew that. You can see I dropped it the same day when I found some were taking it way too seriously than I intended. I was in no position to make demands, considering it was Zazarb who was holding the funds. I have apologized to Zazarb in private message for the post. I haven't received a reply. I have agreed with Zazarb that if I don't sign the bitcoin address within a month from now, he can do whatever he want with it. I have dropped this scam accusation. |
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By 2050 the human population should be one to two billion people, and that will drop as biological reproduction goes away.
Projection says that 1-2 billion people will be add to the actual number so by 2050 it will be close to 10 billion. The planet can't support the population now. :/ We can gradually move half the population there. Seriously, no way!!!!! We don't even make shit % of that! Lolz. The iron core itself is so much less you can't even have another moon out of it. So let us keep our feet on this Earth only, shall we  We make do with what we have. Make a hollow planet and send Trump there. |
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By 2050 the human population should be one to two billion people, and that will drop as biological reproduction goes away.
Projection says that 1-2 billion people will be add to the actual number so by 2050 it will be close to 10 billion. The planet can't support the population now. :/ All the junk we produce should be enough to make a new planet between Earth and Mars. We can gradually move half the population there. |
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The escrow contract basically said that the Watoshi account will ask for escrow to be released to the original repayment address, and now the Watoshi account is doing exactly that..
Where was that? The OP is doing a really shitty job presenting this case. I couldn't find what the original instructions were for releasing the escrowed funds. These posts were made before Zazarb agreed to escrow. Zazarb did not explicitly state anything except for confirming the escrow address as a PGP signed message. I think it is clear that Zazarb was to hold funds until I either confirm the repayment address or provide a new one. Due to the lack of communication between me and Watoshi Sir, I have now decided that I will wait just 10 days more and see whether he comes online or not, and if he doesn't reply me during this time, I will repay him to his provided address on this thread...I hope he comes back online during this timeline...  Watoshi-Dimobuto has not been active on the forum since: May 15, 2016, 02:01:52 PM.
If you don't know a way to contact him out of this forum I would suggest you to wait until he's back or send the payment to a trusted escrow so they can hold it until Watoshi-Dimobuto is back.
Due to the lack of communication between me and Watoshi Sir, I have now decided that I will wait just 10 days more and see whether he comes online or not, and if he doesn't reply me during this time, I will repay him to his provided address on this thread... I hope he comes back online during this timeline... Because it will become another issue if that addy is forget by owner. Just saying
Hey guys, I would like to update you that I recently got a message from manager that I got paid currently...  I am extremely happy that now I will be able to put the amount in Zazarb's escrow service to prove myself innocent... if you want I can escrow this, but it is not guaranteed that people who have left you negative trust, will remove it.
(I will send confirmation to blazr and QS)
escrow address if you want monitoring 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV (you should send full amount +tx fee)
Can you please confirm that the above mentioned address with monitoring is still on??? I will then send the amount... Also, I would like to let you know that only BTC0.01 is remaining, so please let me know that exactly how much should I send you to that address??? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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@Csmiami I am aware you think I hacked this account. I said you don't give me benefit of the doubt because you are asking me to prove that I own this account without providing evidence that my account is hacked. You are not asking Zazarb to prove anything. You are leaving feedback based on a speculation. Tell me what reason does Zazarb has to refuse to pay to original repayment address? Yes. IMO, it is more than unethical if the agreement implies the escrow should keep it untouched in the bitcoin address/account. Greedy and unethical applies if you are talking about agreements between friends and family.
You can prove that your funds have been used for my lending service? At the 2017, my loan portfolio was up 10-15 BTC, the amount re-reserved for that purpose is even higher How your 0.01 BTC can help me? What purpose to use it? it was a useless balance that only ate a transaction fee when moving from one address to other. There are 323 transactions in the escrow address. What were you using it for? Why did you move the money?
I am dropping this accusation, but I will keep the thread unlocked. I think some people here are worse than I accused you of. You can't pull this off in real life. Next time, don't do it like this. |
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- for ranking up to Jr. Member you need just 1 merit; for Member you need only 10. Indeed, it seems so hard for a Newbie to earn 1 merit but it is not hard actually (explained below). IIRC in the beginning there was only one section where newbies could post. Over time I think bitcointalk is generally relaxing restrictions and making it less difficult for new users to actively post, send messages and rank-up. Newbies and Jr. members have restrictions placed upon them. Once they receive merit from more established members, they are given more relaxations as they rank up? It is good. It shouldn't be hard to rank up. - activity allows to become Legendary in 2 years or 2 years and a few weeks. Literally speaking, in real world, legends are built in far more time, not just in 2 years. Time runs faster on the internet. 2 years internet time is more than 5 years real time. |
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I'd just like to know how Watoshi-Dimobuto can say with a straight face that he's been away for four years, got boared ... drifted away when two of his alts were still active last year:
Rather, this proves that those three accounts linked to me in 2014 are not my alts. If I was active last year, why would I ask Zazarb to release escrow now? Besides, aren't you agreeing with me that I didn't hack this account? What I said is the truth.
@Zazarb, do you agree or disagree that you are liable and will send escrowed amount/loan/collateral amount again if the recipient signs a staked address and claims his account was hacked at the time and the address you sent to is lost? Do you consider it OK to give loans out of escrowed funds?
Probably not. I would say definitely not. If you're escrowing a transaction, the only thing you should do with the funds is to keep them safe and distribute them fairly upon completion of the transaction between the parties involved. Using escrowed funds for loans or investing them to make a profit is greedy at best and unethical at worst. I'm trying to follow exactly what went on with this situation, but my befuddled brain isn't taking it all in. One thing I do understand is that OP doesn't seem to understand why it's important that he verify he is who he says he is--and it's NOT off-topic to this thread to discuss that. Yes. IMO, it is more than unethical if the agreement implies the escrow should keep it untouched in the bitcoin address/account. Greedy and unethical applies if you are talking about agreements between friends and family. I don't understand why it's necessary that I verify I lent the money, when the escrow can send the money to repayment address before my account was supposedly hacked. To be fair, this was rather unexpected. Gkv9 was supposed to send it to the repayment address. Before I forgot about it, I thought gkv9 never sent the payment. I didn't stake an address in the Meta thread or link PGP key to bitcointalk account. I don't understand what reason Zazarb has to withhold escrow. I don't understand why many of you considers this OK. I don't think scaring away people from using escrow is the right approach.
Did you tell anyone you would be gone for four years?
Stop trolling. Quickseller, your skills as an Escrow are questionable.
Quickseller was one of the best escrows in the forum. I've highlighted the relevant items Negotiations only in public, and Terms can change at any time, but wont affect running deals. That is a loan thread.
QS is correct here IMO..
Escrow funds should be released to the original repayment address..
If it is not the real Watoshi, and the coins get burnt because the real Watoshi lost access to the original repayment address, then it is the real Watoshi's fault for letting his account get hacked, and losing access to the repayment address in the contract..
Should not need proof of identity to release funds to the original repayment address because their was no clause in the escrow contract for proof of identity for doing so..
The escrow contract basically said that the Watoshi account will ask for escrow to be released to the original repayment address, and now the Watoshi account is doing exactly that..
Moving the funds from the escrow address, after the contract explicitly stated the funds were not to be moved, also looks not so great..
Doesn't matter if it's been 1 year or 10 years, old keys still work fine..
It is also completely understandable that one could receive coins to an address but not be able to sign a message from it, like any exchange account or many 3rd party services..
All this over 0.01BTC..
Thank you. This is the real Watoshi Dimobuto and the coins won't be burned.
- OP has been saying it'd be too much effort to sign messages, and considered zarzarb was taking those funds as a loan and ask for an almost 8.5BTC repayment (lol)
- It's been suggested that the original repayment address is used to release the funds, OP agrees, but that brings a question up: If he has access to that address, why doesn't he sign a message?
I think that is pretty much the current situation. I have not mentioned the thread Lauda created, because I didn't catch it on time, now it's locked, and I don't think that anything different from what has been said here was said.
The only thing that is questionable here is the fact of the funds changing address when it was a clearly "monitored" one; but from there, to using that funds on his personal lending thread as OP suggests, there quite some space
You are always giving the benefit of the doubt to Zazarb, but not to me. You already decided your position based on our trust feedbacks before you read OP. - OP has been saying it'd be too much effort to sign messages, and considered zarzarb was taking those funds as a loan and ask for an almost 8.5BTC repayment (lol) It is practically not possible for me to sign the message from the repayment address right now. I already took the effort to sign other addresses and made no progress so far. I increased the amount to 8.5 BTC when he said this : Im not make any excuses! Serious ? the amount is ridiculously small...
So I made the amount ridiculously large. If he has access to that address, why doesn't he sign a message? I have no obligation to explain this and you won't know what I say is true or not anyway.
zazarb assumed gkv9 obligations to repay the interest amount due on gkv9 in exchange for a payment of equal amount plus the fee zazarb charged. Zazarb also explicitly agreed to not move the bitcoin he was holding on behalf of gkv9.
It appears zazarb has commingled the bitcoin he was holding with his own personal bitcoin. This is not good and is something I would consider if someone asked to use zazarb as an escrow agent in a transaction I was a part of.
I also don’t see any basis for withholding the bitcoin to the OP. The repayment address remains unchanged and the basis for gkv9 not sending the interest payment to the OP directly was that there might be a question if the transaction was actually from gkv9 for the purpose of paying the interest or was from someone else.
The majority of the world has travel restrictions imposed so it is not entirely unexpected the OP cannot provide a signed message. The OP also never agreed to provide a signed message as a condition of receiving payment. The majority of the world also is experiencing financial stress currently so it would be expected for those who are owed money to make attempts to recover payment.
I think it would have been most appropriate to send the bitcoin to the OP in 2016, but given this didn’t happen, it should be released to him immediately. This is regardless of any speculation that the OP is a hacked account.
If zazarb or anyone else has evidence that is not speculation that the person who is owed the .01 doesn’t wish to receive the payment to the original repayment address he is now requesting payment to be sent to, he should present it immediately.
OP is now reposting their posts to keep them at the bottom of their thread.
You are free to open multiple scam accusations threads : Watoshi-Dimobuto's alt scammed $15 in 2015. Watoshi-Dimobuto can't sign bitcoin address. His account is hacked Watoshi-Dimobuto reposted one post OMG!  What else? Watoshi-Dimobuto is attempting to extort BTC 8.5 from Zazarb https://archive.vn/NmiyA#selection-5409.0-5413.20You really left feedback for that? LOL That is overkilling it
- I didn't hack this account
- I have never defaulted on loans
- I am not an extortionist
- Watoshi, Zorrocoin, searle421 are not my alts
- I admit to reposting
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Total participants : 16 Removed posts made by participants with merit < 11 Total eligible participants : 13 Prizes doubled.  Number and salt : 81 CpjmNACNX9
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Coin-1's rock beats Watoshi-Dimobuto's scissors!
Coin-1 wins 0.0006BTC
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The GameParticipants will be paired into groups of two for a game of rock paper scissors against each other. Your objective is to beat your opponent. If you win against your opponent, you win a prize. If you lose or draw against your opponent, you don't win a prize. The number you post and a predetermined number is added. The last two digits of the sum decides your play - 00 to 33 is Rock, 34 to 66 is Paper and 67 to 99 is Scissors. For example, if you post 12 and the predetermined number is 20, sum is 32 and your hand is Rock. Groups are formed based on posting order of valid entries. Post #3 and post #4 will form a group, post #5 and post #6 will form a group and so on. If there are an odd number of participants, the last participant plays against the predetermined number. After I post STOP, the predetermined number is revealed and hands are generated. Participants are matched against their opponents in the same group and winners are paid. SHA256 hash of predetermined number and salt is ABEF0055F85A7EE20D711E8C0E9455CBCEFE21C70125D15E285299C9C0C68A96 How to play- Post a number from 00 to 99 and your Bitcoin address
Rules- You are allowed only one entry per account/person/household
- You will be disqualified if you post more than one entry, edit a post or delete a post.
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PrizesMerit 10 to 251 : 0.0001 BTCMerit 252 to 501 : 0.0002 BTCMerit 502 and up : 0.0003 BTCGood luck!
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Not likely. 10% annualized return rate for 7 days is 0.19%.
Do your research before installing unknown apps. It could be scam, malware, etc,
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Hypothetically speaking ...
When you put money into a bank account do you tell the teller, or bank manager that they are not to use your fiat money for any other purpose other than to give back to you when you want to withdraw it? Does that mean you have a special ATM pre-loaded with only your own funds that no-one else is permitted to withdraw? You don't know the difference between a borrower and an escrow agent.
...and you want to complain Zazarb had no guidance from you in the four years you were absent?
Really?
Zazarb took an unauthorized loan from escrowed funds. It is interesting to see that you encourage it.
If you are real watoshi ,you chose the wrong way to return to the forum, you are wasting energy and time in the wrong direction.Your current actions only increase suspicions.
You messaged me after 3-4 years and received respond from me in the same day in a few hours, I never refused to fulfill an obligation, but I will not follow the instruction of a random man until he confirms the identities(proof that is same person who gave loan)
The accusation you make here is absurd, issued amount stored in my wallet was just dust, I did not receive any fee for this service(if I understood correctly gkv9 even did not send me required tx fee),
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I know that's the address; but the only thing we can see there is that it was emptied in 2017. I think I recall zarzarb saying he used that address for different escrow deals/trades, so that could explain the volume of transactions. Why did he move the funds? Only he can answer that, but it could be something as simple as a change from a desktop wallet to a hardware wallet, a firmware update.... I'm not saying he didn't use the funds for his own benefit, I'm just pointing out that there is nothing suggesting that, at least based on my criteria It is standard practice to create a new bitcoin address for a new escrow agreement. If the escrow agent wants to change the address, he can do so by updating the new address in the thread and signing it with his PGP key. The escrow should try to reach out to the recipient. I have received zero private messages from zazark in my lifetime. I mean it when I say this is the worst service I ever received from an escrow. |
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Do you consider it OK to give loans out of escrowed funds?
Probably not. He should have kept it in a separate address if he needed to move it. I just don't think zazarb is in breach of contract with you since you don't have a contract with him. If gkv9 made a contract that's unfavorable to you (e.g. by not specifying terms of repayment) that's hardly zazarb's fault. Hypothetically speaking if Watoshi-Dimobuto a reputed escrow agent uses escrow funds of 10 BTC to lend out without permission, as long as the person who entered into contract with him is not aware of it and the agent pays up in the end, we can turn a blind eye and his reputation is unaffected. Is that it? But there is no hard evidence suggesting zarzarb used those funds on his lending service. He could have moved them because he changed his wallet, to update the wallet onto a Segwit one.... or he could have moved to another address which has many movements and the funds remain unnoticed, but are still there. He can't really know what happened, and as long as the funds are still somewhere, I see no issue with them being moved a couple of years later.
If he did use said funds to finance his lending service? Well, that'd be really unethical; but there's nothing actually suggesting that (or I'm not seeing it).
This is the escrow address. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZVThis is without a doubt the worst service I ever received from an escrow. |
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Is using escrow funds to give loans to others without permission OK?
You were not around when the agreement with the escrow was made and you were not around to give the permission when zazarb moved the funds. Given the timeframes involved things may change. You're unable to access your old address yourself. Zazarb at least kept the funds and still has access to them. The agreement was made in the thread. There should be no private agreement between gkv9 and zazarb contradicting the agreement posted in the thread. He agreed to keep the outstanding amount in the monitoring address. Do you consider it OK to give loans out of escrowed funds? |
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Why exactly is the OP @Watoshi-Dimobuto now Trolling my Known Alts thread? What do you hope to achieve?
Zarzab pointed out that he had a defaulted loan on his trust feedback, and that the escrowed funds should go to the creditor of that loan. AFAIK, the connection between his account and the one taking the loan was made on that thread, so I'd bet that's the reason Yep - found it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17096873#msg17096873 (although that's not the post /she was referring to) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Off-topic. But, yes. When you are relying on outdated connections to give feedbacks some of them can be undeserving. --- He is not; you can't expect to come back 4 years later, not verify yourself; accuse the escrow of stealing the funds, and think that everyone will nod to that without making any questions and checking your every move looking for indicators of the account being stolen/sold.
Looks like you deleted the part in which "users like me have made you pay for other's loans...." so who are those "users like me", and what loans have they made you repay that weren't yours? Was that with an alt account? If it is $15, I can settle it. It won't be the first time people like you force me to pay someone else's loan. The creditor of that loan is gone for good. Zarzab never intended to pay me from the beginning. He wants to keep the money.
Off-topic Please open a new thread if you are accusing me.
Just to be clear, I am not accusing Zazarb to force him into releasing escrow. He won't anyway. I honestly think this is not how escrows are supposed to work. Please don't consider this thread as an extension of the lending section thread. The subject of this scam accusation is misconduct and breach of contract by Zazarb. Is using escrow funds to give loans to others without permission OK? |
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Why exactly is the OP @Watoshi-Dimobuto now Trolling my Known Alts thread? What do you hope to achieve? It's also true that it may seem odd that zarzab moved the funds of a monitored address, but the reasons for doing so can be a lot, so it's not really a valid point after 4 years.
Easiest solution? Sign the damm message like you were told 4 days (i think) ago and end this agony at once
You could also explain why you have come back after a four year absence (or are you a hacker and therefore can't provide a signed message as requested?) What kind of explanation? I was busy. I did check the thread one or two months after I left. After that I forgot about the loan and stopped visiting this forum entirely. I am glad I left. The members I knew left this place long ago. If you think I hacked this account, give some evidence. Don't derail this thread. You can discuss further in the lending thread or open a new thread in scam accusation to discuss it.If you think I hacked this account, give some evidence. Don't derail this thread.
Given you're Trolling of the Known Alts thread just now, I'd say there might be something in it given you don't seem willing to provide proof (signed message) to back up your claim. You are trolling this thread. I deleted the post. |
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Just so we are clear, are you talking about transactions that occurred three or four years ago? Are they ongoing issues? If not, why the delay in reporting this? (and if he's using the funds elsewhere, what is the issues with him returning funds to you from other sources?
This has been going on for days now, I think there is some catching up to do for you... This whole issue has turned to a shit show. From what I can conclude, Watoshi has some valid arguments, but AFAICT doesn't have access to any of those said addresses, but would rather the coins go to waste in either of those old addresses than ending up with Zazarb. Zazarb, on the other hand have made reasonable points too, but It all comes down to who is willing to be less-stubborn. I did ask Zazarb to donate the amount. Aside from that I have every intention of receiving the 0.01 BTC owed to me. Escrow refuses to release funds to both the address I provided now and the address I provided in 2016 when I lend gkv9.
https:// bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1318061.msg54450442#msg54450442
Your link doesn't show a "refusal" by anyone.
Perhaps you didn't notice this:
This has been going on for days now, I think there is some catching up to do for you... This whole issue has turned to a shit show.
I tend not to watch Lauda defecate in public. Besides, this is the actual "scam accusation". (am scroll/reading the LaudaM defecation thread and it looks like post #2 by @Yoshi sums it up nicely as does @Joel_Jantsen's post #2 in the original loan thread that has been referenced: Your account password was reset recently .Kind of shady . What if the account was sold and the new owner is using that to get this loan ? EDIT : Whoever is willing to give this loan ,please go through this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915029.40 The Op doesn't seem to have a good repayment history.I updated the post above. Yoshi is talking about negative feedback Lauda left on my profile. OP of the loan thread is gkv9. I didn't reset my account password. Joel_Jantsen posts that gkv9's password was reset recently and doesn't seem to have a good repayment history. Both the posts are unrelated to this thread. |
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Just so we are clear, are you talking about transactions that occurred three or four years ago? Are they ongoing issues? If not, why the delay in reporting this? (and if he's using the funds elsewhere, what is the issues with him returning funds to you from other sources?
Escrow refuses to release funds to both the address I provided now and the address I provided in 2016 when I lend gkv9. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1318061.msg54454485#msg54454485 (Updated link. There are two other posts where he gives excuses like this.)
Can you outline what the original agreement was etc in your own words in a one paragraph walk through of who's funds, what the purpose of their being in escrow that sort of thing.
I lend gkv9 0.05 BTC as one of three lenders. He paid back the principal. I increased the interest from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC as a repayment for a previous adjusted loan before I left. After a few months, gkv9 deposited the interest funds to escrow to repay me when I come back online. I was bored of the forum. When I came back last time, I tried to join a few signature campaigns and was rejected because of general inactivity. |
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What happened: Zazarb moved funds from escrow address after explicitly agreeing to keep the escrow funds in the monitoring address. He then proceeded to use the escrow funds in his high-interest lending business to lend out and earn interest without the consent of either party. He ignored my request to move the escrow funds back to the address. Zazarb is refusing to release escrow to my current address as well as the repayment address agreed to between the parties. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369212Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1318061.0Amount Scammed: 0.01BTCPayment Method: BitcoinAdditional Notes: zazarb agrees to not move funds:Quote A if you want I can escrow this, but it is not guaranteed that people who have left you negative trust, will remove it.
(I will send confirmation to blazr and QS)
escrow address if you want monitoring 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV (you should send full amount +tx fee)
or without monitoring, and fee free 1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
What do you mean by monitoring??? And what about full amount??? The only thing remaining here is interest, and that is BTC0.01 for Watoshi Sir, so do you mean that I need to send BTC0.01 to that address starting with 13 plus tx fee??? I am ready to send that much to you, but after Sunday/Monday, because I will get paid by my campaign guys this Sunday/Monday... About last week's earnings, I redeemed them because I needed to pay some real life bills and I told this because I know, some over-smart people will come up and ask for the same...  monitoring - you can see account balance that the amount unused, Yes I mean remaining amount what you owe for watoshi. Quote B: Hey guys, I would like to update you that I recently got a message from manager that I got paid currently... I am extremely happy that now I will be able to put the amount in Zazarb's escrow service to prove myself innocent... if you want I can escrow this, but it is not guaranteed that people who have left you negative trust, will remove it.
(I will send confirmation to blazr and QS)
escrow address if you want monitoring 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV (you should send full amount +tx fee)
Can you please confirm that the above mentioned address with monitoring is still on??? I will then send the amount... Also, I would like to let you know that only BTC0.01 is remaining, so please let me know that exactly how much should I send you to that address??? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZVplease send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Escrow address : https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZVBalance history : https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV-fullTimeline : 2016-01-12 I give loan 2016-02-17 gkv9 repays principal (36 days) 2016-09-27 gkv9 repays interest to escrow zazarb (223 days) 2017-06-21 zazarb starts to lend out escrow funds (267 days) zazarb was fully aware of my inactivity for around 200 days when he explicitly agreed to keep an outstanding balance of 0.01 BTC in the escrow address. He violated the agreement within 267 days. zazarb uses escrow funds to lend out and earn interest :zazarb's lending services : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1161170.0I did not borrow in this forum (in real life too), because I always have more funds than I need. So your statement that I misappropriated the escrow funds(even 0.01 BTC!!! is funny. My address you mentioned, was used for my daily operations, after some time its was changed to other, escroved fund moved too. My agreement was not found Watoshi-Dimobuto to provide funds.He had to turn to me and better not after 100 years I did not request any remuneration for this service, and I am always ready to do agreement. The only condition i have to be 100% sure that funds will go to the real Watoshi-Dimobuto. This is why i am asking you sign with one off address you staked here. Quote C : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249117.msg54456532#msg54456532To understand my position more clearly, just need to answer the question, why gkv9 did not send the money directly to repayment address in 2016,
but used me as escrow with the obligation to transfer funds to Watoshi-Dimobuto when he come back?(at that time he was missing for only a few weeks)
You can say he's already back, do you guarantee 100% that it is the same person? I don't. And he doesn’t bother to prove the opposite. It is not at all difficult to prove that address in your possession even if you not have priv key.
As I said other thread , If someone thinks otherwise and takes responsibility , I am happy to transfer the funds to another trustworthy escrow service. Quote D : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 27/09/ 2016 I confirm that address to escrow 13onqzPnGzazarbReooW4sBkqEgKPoMwZV please send remaining amount what you owe Watoshi-Dimobuto (0,01BTC+tx fee 0.0001) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.58 Comment: https://keybase.io/cryptowsBcBAABCgAGBQJX6mDtAAoJEEesS+GBgNwFyI0H+gPLFNQbfweCrJ0NfauasDOL RSNwWmA4EXjpkRK1VAH3xBTheMmbGyb/H75pbajD5s0yBeWzuVZzhugrZB5Wq1xj xRGwLRksS2KvVLTYdCULGT1cr7Im0dH7h8G27vsKR3qVWwW5qwHX+PZ85Om0sXSa mOjkJfhfXv1818ms2bKfxw817M0ek++Zi7WuOa+JxkJXIug4TbFWmPla9FdDRH+d 6ARAXNmYaZ0hBL8DZlk5jG4tZd16ChlMycYTEtovBJA2GJv6RsiE55ZYPatNFeFQ 0NnnVI4OARm/7JUKcjX79XvKKheyhdiRJQZ/892x/xFlQX46j62ukWPbeyi8KgA= =ARJ3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Please release escrow to 1P6WESDzkd2qZGZNXVP2pM8XiFUuPQnwKk The original terms of the loan were that you would receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Are you willing/able to receive the payment to that address? If so, that should resolve any issue of the possibility that your account might be hacked. Yes. I am willing to receive payment to 1624xVu7J5nscwYqmuBvhPidjMvBqgoN5H Since you can't sign with this address, how you reach this fund, after I will send it?(address inactive since 2016-02-19) I just want remind that initial reason why gkv9 sent fund to escrow , was that there was a fear that this address might not be used longer. Or you, after a failed attempt to retrieve btc, try to just burn them? Who will compensate loss if it turns out later that you're not real watoshi? Other notes : Reputation thread Watoshi-Dimobuto v. zazarb/Lauda https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249117.0LaudaM has no direct connection to this scam accusation. My private messages to LaudaM ware about reconsidering trust feedback on my profile for loan default of 0.06 BTC ($15 on the date) by Watoshi. This was after the same person defaulted on another loan after giving this account as collateral. I did not break any forum rules, default loans, scam anyone or hack this account. I strongly believe zazarb's conduct as escrow is terrible and he should pay reasonable damages and be banned from acting as an escrow. Tolerating this kind of behavior would mean escrows can gamble with escrow funds and all will be forgiven as long as the escrow agent pays it back in the end. Escrows must not put escrow funds at risk. Zazarb not only violated this principle, he used the escrowed funds as an interest-free collateral-free unauthorized loan, and lent them out at his discretion.
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