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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 18, 2019, 07:29:35 PM
Waouw... 700 Millions $PAC generated for the team.  Shocked
Was this on the white paper?
Of course it was/is not. Before one goes into explanation of it, for everyone to be on the same page, the outline of the next upgrade can be found here:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373842836862533632/646050211617177600/PAC_Global_-_Network_Update_Nov_17_2019_Final-2-1.pdf

To quote Drew Saunders (PAC Global CEO) as stated on the PAC Global discord server:

"The 700 mil PAC is not for a one month budget. The document above clearly states the reason we need these funds. We cannot be working and trying to grow PAC on a month to month PAC salary and have to risk either A.) Super block not paying out B.) funds running dry mid month. It's not safe or smart business. We will still use the superblock for operational expenses, but it would be to reimburse the 700 mil we would already have at our expense. Keeping the cup full so to speak while we fund operations via BTC and fiat."

and then further:

"We will be as transparent as our budget requests have been every month. If you have noticed all our budget requests have been to REIMBURSE what we already spent via fiat and BTC the month before. This is the case going forward as well. We do not request what we do not use. Spend fiat/btc/pac first.. request a refill after clear breakdowns like our props have been.
We consistently have opportunities that arise that we consider on a moment's notice. When a superblock is only once a months, sure it is good for reimbursement and smaller projects. But core operational expenses? Not at all."

As for the over 1 billion PAC being "burned" with the same upgrade:

"The 1 billion + coins being "burned" or "removed" from the network are coins that we discovered while doing intense investigation. Exchanges that refuse to update to PAC Global, exchanges that have been hacked, scammer activity addresses, 51% attack activity addresses, all of these have been compiled together and in the update release it effectively bans them and their coins from EVER interacting on the chain again. They cannot send coins, cannot make Masternodes, cannot vote on proposals or impact our markets in any way. Bad actors CAN be disciplined in crypto. This is not a world where criminals can get away with stealing."

A number of other themes have been and are being discussed in the PAC Global discord server.

For any inquiries please feel free to contact Drew at: DrewSaunders@pacglobal.io

For support please contact:
Helpdesk@pacglobal.io
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 18, 2019, 08:39:12 AM
Brad, You insulted the good people you worked with.
You complain that they did not give you money,
you already forgot about your proposal of 16.5 million PAC every month.
You constantly complained and did nothing, you received £ 7,000 a month for reposting on Twitter and creating a white paper design?
You are from the old team,
from the team of liars and scammers.
Nobody loves you,
and all will remember you as a person who was kicked out in disgrace, as a scammer.

So you think the new team are not liars?
Did they ask you your opinion before making this "community project" a Private company? Did they just told you anything about this project?
No!
This is what happened: You woke up one morning and find that pac is now a company.... Already started American company. They did everything secretly.
They discussed about it secretly... Created a company secretly... And then told us "Surprise! Pac is now a company"
I am wondering who are the shareholders of this company? What if tomorrow they decide to sell all PACs of the superblock and run away with the money?
Do you feel secure now?
And btw... few weeks ago you asked Brad to show you his degree, right? What about asking the same to the new team?


Well, I do not know what to say, but you are simply spreading wrong information mixed in with some truths almost every day. A few pieces of information on various subjects you mentioned:

1. Back to your example from before on how PR / marketing sections of any serious companies have to be using undeniable truths (i.e., "never EVER used any fake data"):
In the country where I live (in the top 20 countries in the world according to the different rankings, 7th apparently when it comes to the justice system), every so often you have commercials from the two major Internet/Cable TV/Mobile providers: they claim that if you become their customer that you will be a part of largest/best/best awarded network in the country. Well, one of them is lying, since only one can be the best network. And when you look under the hood, what you see that they each got some rewards in "independent" tests from various sources in various years. This is deceiving at its best, pure lying at its worst (since only the newest data should count, and not awards from previous years). Is that "normal"? Well, yes, it is - simply, that is marketing today. Do I like it myself? I personally do not, but it is not illegal nor uncommon.

2. Please try calling any serious company with any type of "facts" you might have as liars or scammers. Either you will get ignored by them or will get sued for it. Also, try asking them to show you their degrees - either they have shown them already or they will not show them. Moreover, a degree is not a guarantee nor a prerequisite for a person being successful at what he/she is doing.

3. The current CMO of PAC Global, as far as I know, is not a mechanical engineer as you claim it. But, again, a degree is not a guarantee nor a prerequisite for a person being successful at what he/she is doing.

4. The shareholders of PAC Global network are masternode owners. Masternode owners can decide on any proposal put up there (by them). The update, which was just announced to be coming in the next days, should make it easier to put up new proposals and vote on them. Have you put up any proposals to change anything?

5. Creating a company to back PAC Global team/project efforts does not interfere with masternode owners power to steer the development of the network / project.

Is any of other coins / PAC Global network perfect? No, if it would be, there would be no need for any updates/upgrades. As long as the network is working in general and being developed / patched for discovered issues, one is doing fine.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 06, 2019, 06:45:52 PM
PAC Global latest PR release hitting multiple platforms today:

https://www.cryptonewsz.com/pac-global-launched-an-innovative-blockchain-network/50311/
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 05, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
Cheesy Cheesy
I like how you contort to justify what suits you at a particular time. Few weeks ago you promoted Coingecko because your rankings were better than in CMC, saying that the CMC ranking did not reflect the truth and now... it's the opposite. We call that being desperate, next time what will you will invent?

By the way, it's interesting to see the divisions within your team, for example Brad thinking that those who have replaced him are idiots and they will fail.
Without knowing exactly what are you referring to, a general answer: Of course one does not limit him/herself to the CMC - are you surprised that the marketing section has been trying to use publicly available data that favor PAC to help promote the project?
In general, just about anything marketing of any company out there does is based on mostly well-formulated opinions, and biased opinions at that.

The PAC Global team is made of individuals who work towards fulfilling the general PAC Global goals. That does not mean that all have the same opinion on this or that subject. Diversity, if embraced, is actually strength and not a weakness.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 05, 2019, 08:39:38 AM
With this post I am referring to the post directly above, just to keep it brief and not to quote all these long entries every time...

Is PAC Global team not allowed to defend and stand by its position on a subject?
I am sure that you are also aware that one simply cannot accommodate for opinions of all members of the community at the same time.

With a tweet (and entries on other platforms) PAC Global has re-transmitted already publicly available CMC data and used it for its PR purposes.
I myself believe that P2PB2B is not doing anything what most if not all exchanges (unfortunately) do - it is certainly not ideal, but this is the world we live in.
In addition, CMC apparently shares the opinion with me - there are exchanges (like BiteBTC) for which CMC has issued a clear warning. CMC has not issued any such warning about P2PB2B. Please be reminded that it is indeed part of CMC job not to promote crime, i.e. check what kind of data they present on their website. If CMC would issue a warning for any of the PAC exchanges, this would be carried over to the community, as it was done with BiteBTC (and its successors).

Enjoy the day!
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 04, 2019, 11:36:32 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.



 Cheesy So funny! A shitty exchange supported by the shitty new team and CEO (a kid).
RIP Pac
The information is from the Coinmarketcap site - are you saying that Coinmarketcap is not good? If so, you are certainly not the majority, the Coinmarketcap is the number 1 site for rankings and coin/exchange info. They get the most traffic. When a coin applies for a new exchange, they get asked for their CMC link.

Explain me:
- Why are they about to change their ranking algorithm?
- How a new unknown exchange can suddenly become number 1 with more than 1.5 BILLION in 24 hours?
- How Binance and other biggest exchange are ranked 20th ish?
- Why other rank (coingecko)  have a totally different rank? With P2P ranked at the 125th position
- Why your P2P BS is less less popular but, hey... number 1? As comparaison:

P2PB2B:
- Twitter subs: 34k
- Alexa rank: 21000

BINANCE:
- Twitter subs: 1,1 Million
- Alexa rank: 1700

- Why are they cited in the BTI Market Surveillance Report – September 2019 - of wash trading?
https://www.bti.live/bti-september-2019-wash-trade-report/

The truth:
You are taking advantage of a flawed algorithm to deceive people... that is called either a scam or a pure ignorance! In both case, this is a red flag!
This game will explose on your face when CMC will change their algo soon (end of this month).
Anyway, you already lost your credibility long ago, even your community decrease every day.

Pac was a beautiful project until you give the command to a kid. Banning me while you knew I was right was just foolish. I would like to see your face when P2PB2B will scam exit. What will you say to the community?

ps: FUD are based on lies, all my arguments are real facts! That is why you banned me without any notice.

Please do not forget following, real facts:

1. PAC Global is not responsible for the content of any of the CMC pages regarding exchanges - CMC is publishing them and they are available for (almost) everyone to see at (almost) any time. This content is there and, as such, has a far greater reach than PAC Global platforms currently have, regardless of what the PAC Global team has or could have done.
2. The CMC pages are like that for many, many weeks / months now - they were not published like that as a result of a simple human/technical flaw/typo, but actually they are there like that on purpose.
3. If the content of the CMC pages is indeed flawed or simply wrong, then an appropriate correction is due from the CMC side - nobody is against that.

I guess you were banned (or kicked?), since you were unable to accept the above real facts.

PacGlobal IS responsible of their tweets and their contents! If you have a doubt about an exchange to be a scammer, your duty is to not shill it or support it. Or you are a scammer yourself.

P2PB2B is a scam (reported by several reports as from the ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk), or at least a frauder, CMC doesn't react as they explain their algorithm is based on what information exchanges give to them through their API. They recognized this is not accurate and they have to investigate one by one the frauds users report to them... until the next update though.
I am looking forwad to see Pac global team members faces when P2PB2B will scam exit. I hope that day they will apologize for the sh*t they are pushing the project, which I consider as dead, thanks to Drew.


If there is "doubt about an exchange to be a scammer", there is nothing one is obliged to do. Only if one has evidentially witnessed a crime or clear consequences of it, only then is one obliged to report it to the authorities. You are also ignoring another real fact (valid for democratic countries): one is innocent until proven otherwise.
I do not understand you looking forward to anyone's sorrow, whatever that may be, but that is you.

I remind that cryptoexchanges disappearing (for whatever reason) can happen at any time. The most famous recent event was Cryptopia closing overnight for being hacked. For that reason it is recommended to keep only the minimal amount of funds (if any) at any exchange. In addition, if you personally do not like one or the other exchange, then simply do not use it.

Is it the way you protect your investors? Waiting after the exchanges scammer to be arrested? WWOOOOWWW
That reassure me! We are safe gents.
You are taking  Cryptopia  as example... ffs Have you read the elements and proofs clearly stated, with pictures, on the tweet below?
https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650
 
Could you seriously feeling safe sending your money to this kind of exchanges?
Are you that serious in PacGlobal?  Shocked
The statement that "one is innocent until proven otherwise" is indeed to be left to the courts of law, and not any random person, like you and me.
Please look at your "proofs" closely - it is just text / pictures on several websites - there is no hard evidence of identity of person(s) behind it, or even information on the real owner(s) of the domains. The information you provide can be used to prompt further, thorough research on the matter at best. If someone should clone websites of other exchanges like Binance or Coinbase, should this information be forwarded to you so you can present these as "proofs"?
Out of shear curiosity: have you submitted these, as you call them, "proofs" to the authorities yet? If so, can you provide their answer to your submission?

Many have been using P2PB2B without issues, and those with issues are generally able to resolve them in a normal manner.
With that said, every investor is served best by doing his/her own research into any 3rd party tools they use, including exchanges.

Loll seriously? Give them all your life saving, go on... You are taking advantages over your community of investors because it is an unregulated market, so there is very few arrestation due to lack of laws...
Gents... admire the mentality here. This is how PAC will protect your asset> Not arrested so no advice from them! Noted!

There is one expression for that kind of things to help people beware of a big risk: "Red flags"
All these exchanges are linked, pictures of members (not all) same but different names, they are all from Ukrainia, the scammer Valerii Solodovnyk himself shilled P2PB2B along with the scam CoinsBit. P2PB2B shilling the IEO NetCurrencyIndex... and many will come soon
Thanks to you, I am digging more and find some good stuff
A fraud is a fraud - if someone should steal money or goods from you, you should contact the authorities. There is nothing unregulated about that. The term unregulated is referring to different financial aspects of the cryptocurrency world (taxation, control over currency and notes production, anti-laundry efforts and regulations and so on), but not about one person trying to cheat on another.
It is common sense and common knowledge that every investor should do his/her own research before using a service, particularly 3rd party services like exchanges. How are BTC, ETH, LTC and others protecting their investors from scams? These coins are listed on almost every exchange there is - and what do their teams say about that? They say: be careful which exchange you pick - do you own research.
In any case, keep digging, you are not the first nor the last person who is thinking that they are on the verge of the discovery of conspiracy / large-scale fraud / whatever.


"There is nothing unregulated about that."
Yeah really? Wash trading is regulated in crypto for sure. lol

What a bad faith! loll An unknown exchange doing 1.5 Billion per day... Hey... I said BILLION! LOLL But hey no fraud here.
What planet do you live on?

"It is common sense and common knowledge that every investor should do his/her own research before using a service, particularly 3rd party services like exchanges."
Yes it is. So next time you tweet a shill for a scam, don't forget to precise "DYOR".

Many scam have been reported, but these scammers chose countries such as Russia or lithuania to build their scams, where there is a very slow justice if not at all.
If you are a fool to wait till the end of an investigation then I am not. I will not let my money going to an unknown exchange, that has been reported by several reports, that have an unknown team and not transparent at all, and coming from russia, Ukraine or any other baltic country.

https://www.politico.eu/article/bitcoin-ukraine-became-the-wild-east-of-cryptocurrencies-blockchain/

"In any case, keep digging, you are not the first nor the last person who is thinking that they are on the verge of the discovery of conspiracy / large-scale fraud / whatever."

Loll That was already reported long before me, and yes it is a large-scale fraud.
Glad I left this joke called PAC... BTW I don't need to dig for you, you do perfectly the job, Pac is already a full S**tcoin Thanks to you.
But I will continue to warn naive people against you, step by step.
I haven't claimed that wash trading is regulated - please read carefully.
Please be careful about what you assume to know - you are quick to convert impressions and opinions combined with "googling" into statements.
Most if not all exchanges suffer from fake volume, P2PB2B is not an exception to this.
Do not let your money go to any exchange (or elsewhere), if you do not want it to. Nobody asked you to do otherwise, certainly nobody controls you or your funds.
If you are sure about not using exchanges from Russia or "Baltic" countries, I wonder if you trust China-based exchanges.

I suggest not to trust any report you see - very often one does not know who really made it, why it was made and who paid for it.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 04, 2019, 10:45:53 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.



 Cheesy So funny! A shitty exchange supported by the shitty new team and CEO (a kid).
RIP Pac
The information is from the Coinmarketcap site - are you saying that Coinmarketcap is not good? If so, you are certainly not the majority, the Coinmarketcap is the number 1 site for rankings and coin/exchange info. They get the most traffic. When a coin applies for a new exchange, they get asked for their CMC link.

Explain me:
- Why are they about to change their ranking algorithm?
- How a new unknown exchange can suddenly become number 1 with more than 1.5 BILLION in 24 hours?
- How Binance and other biggest exchange are ranked 20th ish?
- Why other rank (coingecko)  have a totally different rank? With P2P ranked at the 125th position
- Why your P2P BS is less less popular but, hey... number 1? As comparaison:

P2PB2B:
- Twitter subs: 34k
- Alexa rank: 21000

BINANCE:
- Twitter subs: 1,1 Million
- Alexa rank: 1700

- Why are they cited in the BTI Market Surveillance Report – September 2019 - of wash trading?
https://www.bti.live/bti-september-2019-wash-trade-report/

The truth:
You are taking advantage of a flawed algorithm to deceive people... that is called either a scam or a pure ignorance! In both case, this is a red flag!
This game will explose on your face when CMC will change their algo soon (end of this month).
Anyway, you already lost your credibility long ago, even your community decrease every day.

Pac was a beautiful project until you give the command to a kid. Banning me while you knew I was right was just foolish. I would like to see your face when P2PB2B will scam exit. What will you say to the community?

ps: FUD are based on lies, all my arguments are real facts! That is why you banned me without any notice.

Please do not forget following, real facts:

1. PAC Global is not responsible for the content of any of the CMC pages regarding exchanges - CMC is publishing them and they are available for (almost) everyone to see at (almost) any time. This content is there and, as such, has a far greater reach than PAC Global platforms currently have, regardless of what the PAC Global team has or could have done.
2. The CMC pages are like that for many, many weeks / months now - they were not published like that as a result of a simple human/technical flaw/typo, but actually they are there like that on purpose.
3. If the content of the CMC pages is indeed flawed or simply wrong, then an appropriate correction is due from the CMC side - nobody is against that.

I guess you were banned (or kicked?), since you were unable to accept the above real facts.

PacGlobal IS responsible of their tweets and their contents! If you have a doubt about an exchange to be a scammer, your duty is to not shill it or support it. Or you are a scammer yourself.

P2PB2B is a scam (reported by several reports as from the ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk), or at least a frauder, CMC doesn't react as they explain their algorithm is based on what information exchanges give to them through their API. They recognized this is not accurate and they have to investigate one by one the frauds users report to them... until the next update though.
I am looking forwad to see Pac global team members faces when P2PB2B will scam exit. I hope that day they will apologize for the sh*t they are pushing the project, which I consider as dead, thanks to Drew.


If there is "doubt about an exchange to be a scammer", there is nothing one is obliged to do. Only if one has evidentially witnessed a crime or clear consequences of it, only then is one obliged to report it to the authorities. You are also ignoring another real fact (valid for democratic countries): one is innocent until proven otherwise.
I do not understand you looking forward to anyone's sorrow, whatever that may be, but that is you.

I remind that cryptoexchanges disappearing (for whatever reason) can happen at any time. The most famous recent event was Cryptopia closing overnight for being hacked. For that reason it is recommended to keep only the minimal amount of funds (if any) at any exchange. In addition, if you personally do not like one or the other exchange, then simply do not use it.

Is it the way you protect your investors? Waiting after the exchanges scammer to be arrested? WWOOOOWWW
That reassure me! We are safe gents.
You are taking  Cryptopia  as example... ffs Have you read the elements and proofs clearly stated, with pictures, on the tweet below?
https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650
 
Could you seriously feeling safe sending your money to this kind of exchanges?
Are you that serious in PacGlobal?  Shocked
The statement that "one is innocent until proven otherwise" is indeed to be left to the courts of law, and not any random person, like you and me.
Please look at your "proofs" closely - it is just text / pictures on several websites - there is no hard evidence of identity of person(s) behind it, or even information on the real owner(s) of the domains. The information you provide can be used to prompt further, thorough research on the matter at best. If someone should clone websites of other exchanges like Binance or Coinbase, should this information be forwarded to you so you can present these as "proofs"?
Out of shear curiosity: have you submitted these, as you call them, "proofs" to the authorities yet? If so, can you provide their answer to your submission?

Many have been using P2PB2B without issues, and those with issues are generally able to resolve them in a normal manner.
With that said, every investor is served best by doing his/her own research into any 3rd party tools they use, including exchanges.

Loll seriously? Give them all your life saving, go on... You are taking advantages over your community of investors because it is an unregulated market, so there is very few arrestation due to lack of laws...
Gents... admire the mentality here. This is how PAC will protect your asset> Not arrested so no advice from them! Noted!

There is one expression for that kind of things to help people beware of a big risk: "Red flags"
All these exchanges are linked, pictures of members (not all) same but different names, they are all from Ukrainia, the scammer Valerii Solodovnyk himself shilled P2PB2B along with the scam CoinsBit. P2PB2B shilling the IEO NetCurrencyIndex... and many will come soon
Thanks to you, I am digging more and find some good stuff
A fraud is a fraud - if someone should steal money or goods from you, you should contact the authorities. There is nothing unregulated about that. The term unregulated is referring to different financial aspects of the cryptocurrency world (taxation, control over currency and notes production, anti-laundry efforts and regulations and so on), but not about one person trying to cheat on another.
It is common sense and common knowledge that every investor should do his/her own research before using a service, particularly 3rd party services like exchanges. How are BTC, ETH, LTC and others protecting their investors from scams? These coins are listed on almost every exchange there is - and what do their teams say about that? They say: be careful which exchange you pick - do you own research.
In any case, keep digging, you are not the first nor the last person who is thinking that they are on the verge of the discovery of conspiracy / large-scale fraud / whatever.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 04, 2019, 07:39:33 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.



 Cheesy So funny! A shitty exchange supported by the shitty new team and CEO (a kid).
RIP Pac
The information is from the Coinmarketcap site - are you saying that Coinmarketcap is not good? If so, you are certainly not the majority, the Coinmarketcap is the number 1 site for rankings and coin/exchange info. They get the most traffic. When a coin applies for a new exchange, they get asked for their CMC link.

Explain me:
- Why are they about to change their ranking algorithm?
- How a new unknown exchange can suddenly become number 1 with more than 1.5 BILLION in 24 hours?
- How Binance and other biggest exchange are ranked 20th ish?
- Why other rank (coingecko)  have a totally different rank? With P2P ranked at the 125th position
- Why your P2P BS is less less popular but, hey... number 1? As comparaison:

P2PB2B:
- Twitter subs: 34k
- Alexa rank: 21000

BINANCE:
- Twitter subs: 1,1 Million
- Alexa rank: 1700

- Why are they cited in the BTI Market Surveillance Report – September 2019 - of wash trading?
https://www.bti.live/bti-september-2019-wash-trade-report/

The truth:
You are taking advantage of a flawed algorithm to deceive people... that is called either a scam or a pure ignorance! In both case, this is a red flag!
This game will explose on your face when CMC will change their algo soon (end of this month).
Anyway, you already lost your credibility long ago, even your community decrease every day.

Pac was a beautiful project until you give the command to a kid. Banning me while you knew I was right was just foolish. I would like to see your face when P2PB2B will scam exit. What will you say to the community?

ps: FUD are based on lies, all my arguments are real facts! That is why you banned me without any notice.

Please do not forget following, real facts:

1. PAC Global is not responsible for the content of any of the CMC pages regarding exchanges - CMC is publishing them and they are available for (almost) everyone to see at (almost) any time. This content is there and, as such, has a far greater reach than PAC Global platforms currently have, regardless of what the PAC Global team has or could have done.
2. The CMC pages are like that for many, many weeks / months now - they were not published like that as a result of a simple human/technical flaw/typo, but actually they are there like that on purpose.
3. If the content of the CMC pages is indeed flawed or simply wrong, then an appropriate correction is due from the CMC side - nobody is against that.

I guess you were banned (or kicked?), since you were unable to accept the above real facts.

PacGlobal IS responsible of their tweets and their contents! If you have a doubt about an exchange to be a scammer, your duty is to not shill it or support it. Or you are a scammer yourself.

P2PB2B is a scam (reported by several reports as from the ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk), or at least a frauder, CMC doesn't react as they explain their algorithm is based on what information exchanges give to them through their API. They recognized this is not accurate and they have to investigate one by one the frauds users report to them... until the next update though.
I am looking forwad to see Pac global team members faces when P2PB2B will scam exit. I hope that day they will apologize for the sh*t they are pushing the project, which I consider as dead, thanks to Drew.


If there is "doubt about an exchange to be a scammer", there is nothing one is obliged to do. Only if one has evidentially witnessed a crime or clear consequences of it, only then is one obliged to report it to the authorities. You are also ignoring another real fact (valid for democratic countries): one is innocent until proven otherwise.
I do not understand you looking forward to anyone's sorrow, whatever that may be, but that is you.

I remind that cryptoexchanges disappearing (for whatever reason) can happen at any time. The most famous recent event was Cryptopia closing overnight for being hacked. For that reason it is recommended to keep only the minimal amount of funds (if any) at any exchange. In addition, if you personally do not like one or the other exchange, then simply do not use it.

Is it the way you protect your investors? Waiting after the exchanges scammer to be arrested? WWOOOOWWW
That reassure me! We are safe gents.
You are taking  Cryptopia  as example... ffs Have you read the elements and proofs clearly stated, with pictures, on the tweet below?
https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650
 
Could you seriously feeling safe sending your money to this kind of exchanges?
Are you that serious in PacGlobal?  Shocked
The statement that "one is innocent until proven otherwise" is indeed to be left to the courts of law, and not any random person, like you and me.
Please look at your "proofs" closely - it is just text / pictures on several websites - there is no hard evidence of identity of person(s) behind it, or even information on the real owner(s) of the domains. The information you provide can be used to prompt further, thorough research on the matter at best. If someone should clone websites of other exchanges like Binance or Coinbase, should this information be forwarded to you so you can present these as "proofs"?
Out of shear curiosity: have you submitted these, as you call them, "proofs" to the authorities yet? If so, can you provide their answer to your submission?

Many have been using P2PB2B without issues, and those with issues are generally able to resolve them in a normal manner.
With that said, every investor is served best by doing his/her own research into any 3rd party tools they use, including exchanges.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 04, 2019, 06:25:34 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.



 Cheesy So funny! A shitty exchange supported by the shitty new team and CEO (a kid).
RIP Pac
The information is from the Coinmarketcap site - are you saying that Coinmarketcap is not good? If so, you are certainly not the majority, the Coinmarketcap is the number 1 site for rankings and coin/exchange info. They get the most traffic. When a coin applies for a new exchange, they get asked for their CMC link.

Explain me:
- Why are they about to change their ranking algorithm?
- How a new unknown exchange can suddenly become number 1 with more than 1.5 BILLION in 24 hours?
- How Binance and other biggest exchange are ranked 20th ish?
- Why other rank (coingecko)  have a totally different rank? With P2P ranked at the 125th position
- Why your P2P BS is less less popular but, hey... number 1? As comparaison:

P2PB2B:
- Twitter subs: 34k
- Alexa rank: 21000

BINANCE:
- Twitter subs: 1,1 Million
- Alexa rank: 1700

- Why are they cited in the BTI Market Surveillance Report – September 2019 - of wash trading?
https://www.bti.live/bti-september-2019-wash-trade-report/

The truth:
You are taking advantage of a flawed algorithm to deceive people... that is called either a scam or a pure ignorance! In both case, this is a red flag!
This game will explose on your face when CMC will change their algo soon (end of this month).
Anyway, you already lost your credibility long ago, even your community decrease every day.

Pac was a beautiful project until you give the command to a kid. Banning me while you knew I was right was just foolish. I would like to see your face when P2PB2B will scam exit. What will you say to the community?

ps: FUD are based on lies, all my arguments are real facts! That is why you banned me without any notice.

Please do not forget following, real facts:

1. PAC Global is not responsible for the content of any of the CMC pages regarding exchanges - CMC is publishing them and they are available for (almost) everyone to see at (almost) any time. This content is there and, as such, has a far greater reach than PAC Global platforms currently have, regardless of what the PAC Global team has or could have done.
2. The CMC pages are like that for many, many weeks / months now - they were not published like that as a result of a simple human/technical flaw/typo, but actually they are there like that on purpose.
3. If the content of the CMC pages is indeed flawed or simply wrong, then an appropriate correction is due from the CMC side - nobody is against that.

I guess you were banned (or kicked?), since you were unable to accept the above real facts.

PacGlobal IS responsible of their tweets and their contents! If you have a doubt about an exchange to be a scammer, your duty is to not shill it or support it. Or you are a scammer yourself.

P2PB2B is a scam (reported by several reports as from the ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk), or at least a frauder, CMC doesn't react as they explain their algorithm is based on what information exchanges give to them through their API. They recognized this is not accurate and they have to investigate one by one the frauds users report to them... until the next update though.
I am looking forwad to see Pac global team members faces when P2PB2B will scam exit. I hope that day they will apologize for the sh*t they are pushing the project, which I consider as dead, thanks to Drew.


If there is "doubt about an exchange to be a scammer", there is nothing one is obliged to do. Only if one has evidentially witnessed a crime or clear consequences of it, only then is one obliged to report it to the authorities. You are also ignoring another real fact (valid for democratic countries): one is innocent until proven otherwise.
I do not understand you looking forward to anyone's sorrow, whatever that may be, but that is you.

I remind that cryptoexchanges disappearing (for whatever reason) can happen at any time. The most famous recent event was Cryptopia closing overnight for being hacked. For that reason it is recommended to keep only the minimal amount of funds (if any) at any exchange. In addition, if you personally do not like one or the other exchange, then simply do not use it.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 04, 2019, 05:04:05 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.



 Cheesy So funny! A shitty exchange supported by the shitty new team and CEO (a kid).
RIP Pac
The information is from the Coinmarketcap site - are you saying that Coinmarketcap is not good? If so, you are certainly not the majority, the Coinmarketcap is the number 1 site for rankings and coin/exchange info. They get the most traffic. When a coin applies for a new exchange, they get asked for their CMC link.

Explain me:
- Why are they about to change their ranking algorithm?
- How a new unknown exchange can suddenly become number 1 with more than 1.5 BILLION in 24 hours?
- How Binance and other biggest exchange are ranked 20th ish?
- Why other rank (coingecko)  have a totally different rank? With P2P ranked at the 125th position
- Why your P2P BS is less less popular but, hey... number 1? As comparaison:

P2PB2B:
- Twitter subs: 34k
- Alexa rank: 21000

BINANCE:
- Twitter subs: 1,1 Million
- Alexa rank: 1700

- Why are they cited in the BTI Market Surveillance Report – September 2019 - of wash trading?
https://www.bti.live/bti-september-2019-wash-trade-report/

The truth:
You are taking advantage of a flawed algorithm to deceive people... that is called either a scam or a pure ignorance! In both case, this is a red flag!
This game will explose on your face when CMC will change their algo soon (end of this month).
Anyway, you already lost your credibility long ago, even your community decrease every day.

Pac was a beautiful project until you give the command to a kid. Banning me while you knew I was right was just foolish. I would like to see your face when P2PB2B will scam exit. What will you say to the community?

ps: FUD are based on lies, all my arguments are real facts! That is why you banned me without any notice.

Please do not forget following, real facts:

1. PAC Global is not responsible for the content of any of the CMC pages regarding exchanges - CMC is publishing them and they are available for (almost) everyone to see at (almost) any time. This content is there and, as such, has a far greater reach than PAC Global platforms currently have, regardless of what the PAC Global team has or could have done.
2. The CMC pages are like that for many, many weeks / months now - they were not published like that as a result of a simple human/technical flaw/typo, but actually they are there like that on purpose.
3. If the content of the CMC pages is indeed flawed or simply wrong, then an appropriate correction is due from the CMC side - nobody is against that.

I guess you were banned (or kicked?), since you were unable to accept the above real facts.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 03, 2019, 09:56:37 PM
A friendly reminder:

Please remove your PAC from the Coinexchange.io platform. They are shutting down their exchange. As PAC Global continues to make network optimization updates as one progresses, Coinexchange may not be capable of keeping up with the PAC Global development.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 03, 2019, 09:54:37 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.



 Cheesy So funny! A shitty exchange supported by the shitty new team and CEO (a kid).
RIP Pac
The information is from the Coinmarketcap site - are you saying that Coinmarketcap is not good? If so, you are certainly not the majority, the Coinmarketcap is the number 1 site for rankings and coin/exchange info. They get the most traffic. When a coin applies for a new exchange, they get asked for their CMC link.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: November 01, 2019, 10:15:11 PM
PAC Global is proud to be trading on the largest adjusted 24 hour volume exchange in the world, P2PB2B Exchange.

The phrase, “Wen Binance” finally got answered as P2PB2B.io surged to first place on the Coinmarketcap (CMC) top 100 exchanges list.

P2PB2B is currently updating to the new chain and withdrawals and deposits will open with estimate dates of mid November or earlier.

54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 30, 2019, 04:56:01 PM
Brad Marsh has stepped down from the full-time role of C.M.O. of PAC Global. PAC Global team wishes him the best.
The Board of Directors has unanimously voted through Robin Matthes as PAC Global's new C.M.O. and Michael (Andrew) Contreras as Chief Marketing Coordinator and Brand Ambassador!

Robin and Michael will carry equal responsibility for the success, growth and value-creation of PAC Global Marketing and have developed a BETA community marketing plan that can be found here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SEOapykFssBtjkkG9QMcIw5E8wBwI6RIkEhhz-Mkf-0/edit?usp=sharing.

In chapter 3, segments and target groups have been identified. Together with community involvement, chapter 3 will form the basis of PAC Global Marketing going forward and will be gradually expanded as we go. Please let the team know if you have any ideas, suggestions and/or questions for the PAC Global marketing department.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 29, 2019, 08:39:51 PM
Wow, updated wallet, unlocked and immediately received 10 POS rewards.

Why can't I get a POS? A green circle lights up in the wallet at the bottom right corner, but no coins come ...
What needs to be done to receive coins?
The individual inputs (to be found in the "Send coins" section of desktop wallet under "Inputs...") have to contain more at least 10000 coins each to be eligible for staking.

I have 19,000 coins on my balance, and not at least 10,000, so I ask why I do not get a POS ?!
That is your total. So, if you have that sum of 19,000 distributed over 4 inputs, each input having, for example, 4750 PAC, you will not be able to stake, but your balance will be 19,000.
Even if you have all these coins in one input, it will take a few days to get a stake.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 29, 2019, 05:23:45 PM
Here is the detailed budget request for the month of October 2019:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373842836862533632/638605591194894347/PAC_October_Budget_-_Oct_30_2019_version_2.docx
(as Word document)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373842836862533632/638915184999530516/PAC_October_Budget_-_Oct_30_2019_version_2-1.pdf
(in PDF format)

Please vote YES to help the proposal pass. To vote YES please follow the following instructions if you own and have access to a masternode.

1.) Unlock your wallet.
2.) Open your debug console
3.) Paste: gobject vote-many 06abd3ffc3cb8de0bdb1a69589ca43e5d4939fff1e3c6cc12090be225fa3cc95 funding yes
4.) Press enter

REMEMBER TO RELOCK YOUR WALLET FOR SECURITY (unless you are staking).

PAC Global team thanks you for your support!
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 29, 2019, 05:19:11 PM
Deposit Suspended
 P2PB2B     Huh
Sistemkoin   Huh

any one can update the wallet
The exchange is working on it - PAC Global team does not and cannot control the exchanges.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 29, 2019, 05:18:16 PM
Wow, updated wallet, unlocked and immediately received 10 POS rewards.

Why can't I get a POS? A green circle lights up in the wallet at the bottom right corner, but no coins come ...
What needs to be done to receive coins?
The individual inputs (to be found in the "Send coins" section of desktop wallet under "Inputs...") have to contain more at least 10000 coins each to be eligible for staking.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 27, 2019, 07:23:49 AM
Sam Giset spreading awareness on the importance of entrepreneurial diversity. It has been scientifically proven to be a large contributing factor in the success, growth and value-creation of modern day companies; hence PAC Global values diversity very highly! Please take a look at the video that can be found here:

https://twitter.com/NetworksManager/status/1187807773439987712
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [$PAC] [X11] Community Governed | Masternodes | Actively Trading on: October 27, 2019, 07:22:04 AM
how to deposit the coin in exchange !!!!!!!!!!! its not working
Which exchange are you talking about? The exchanges were informed of the need to upgrade their wallets a couple of weeks ago, some have already upgraded their wallets.
https://p2pb2b.io/balance
As stated above, I am sure they are working on it.
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