Take a deep breath man, it's the weekend, you're probably fine. 

I'm bored.  Can we keep this one going a little longer please?

I include terrible IPO cash grabs in my definition of: "scam."  Actually, imo, Havelock has less "useful" projects than MPEx: Neo & Bee on Havelock; S.BBET & S.NSA on MPEx (profitability to be determined).


*cough*VTXlabcoinMintsparePetaDealCoCBTC*cough* *coughmoar*kenilworthtobelistedonhavelocksoonLOL*hack*

They make their money by collaborating with unscrupulous "CEOs" that IPO outrageously overpriced/inept/incomplete/non-existent/non-tangible ideas that somehow get labeled "assets" (as opposed to liabilities).

Homework assignment:  List every Havelock 'asset' that is currently trading above IPO price.  The market is trying to tell you something.

Oh good.  This thread again.


Real compared to what?  Are you criticizing MPEx for not listing every scam that comes across it's doorstep like Havelock and Cryptostocks?

Hello Sir,

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Oh that wasn't me.  I was just following the btc-tc thread when he happened to post about it.

How to use your API key:

I don't see how it's factored.  They'll still have your Bitcoins (80% of which magically belongs to them because... screw you, pay me).  If they should miraculously be capable of achieving ROI for investors they'll just force buy back the outstanding 20% @ ipo price.  It's explicitly written into the contract that they can do that.

Havelock clearly does not have investor's best interest in mind.  This scam, like much of the Havelock portfolio, is DESIGNED to create a loss for anyone who puts money in.

1 - You get the privilege of buying these scammers a new business.  You take more than 100% of the risk* and if all goes according to their undemonstrated plan, and unproven (and unknown) team, you get 1/500,000 of the profit.


*

• A contract that guarantees you a loss
• Forced buyback for any reason
• Forced Div shrinkage of up to 30% or more (seriously read their "DIVIDENDS" section) your very thin slice of the pie you buy for them is actually worth less than 20%; at their whim
• Variable contract terms clause and NO voting rights

2 - By the time these scammers get around to even deigning to provide you with a dividend, if all goes well (probably won't even be until 2015), the value of the BTC you invested will likely be worth far more than it is today.  Anyone care to guess what the annual average value appreciation of Bitcoin itself has been?  (Hint, it scales exponentially).  

There is no scenario, EVEN IF THIS BUSINESS IS SUCCESSFUL, where suckers (Havelock calls them "investors"), break even, let alone actually earn more than they put in.  This is a blatantly obvious cash grab by scammers teamed up with the unscrupulous Havelock.

I'd actually be willing to bet that Mintspare has already raised at least $125k USD for their startup capital.  But instead of buying BTC at market they've contrived to take yours.  They don't want a business, they want the value appreciation of your Bitcoins for themselves.  

  

This wouldn't even be a good deal if it was denominated entirely in USD.

PMd you. 

You're blind.

Edit: It does look nice though.
Edit 2: Microsoft is still the first thing that comes to mind when I see it.

Ha.

You guys are trying to give MPOE-PR an aneurysm aren't you.

Not a single one of those exchanges has an offering that came anywhere close to performing as well as BTC itself.  Worse, ALL of their offerings lose value as BTC appreciates.  On top of that, most stocks on havelock haven't even started paying divs (despite some being listed for a year), 796 is almost certainly fractional reserve (on top of .3% just to withdrawal BTC), Cryptostocks lists known scams without regard for anyone or anything other than money.

If you want to "invest" in anything crypto, don't.  Or at the very least learn to MPEX.

Ya, too bad we didn't know he was involved until it was too late.

I'm not calling you a scammer.  I'm pointing out you have yet to prove any of what you've asserted.  While also pointing out very good reasons to be skeptical.

I hope you're legit, and successful.  

Everything that could be of any value is missing.


You're going to have rummage through my post history for my sob story where I explain how I got scammed out of 182 btc recently.  A near total loss of all my assets.  You will not be believed, nor should you be.


1 - You should have done this first instead of putting the cart before the horse
2 - You won't attract serious investors, as is.  At this point anyone sending you BTC is a sucker or a gambler.


Yep.

... Business?  Business plan?... Name?....WoT?.......Why am i even....................


If you're not scamming then go public with your identity and a DPO.  Otherwise you're a scammer.

This is not proven by the information you provided.  The circumstantial evidence (that we have) overwhelmingly points to the conclusion that Fabrizzio knew Alberto is Sam Noi, but we don't have direct proof yet.  The circumstantial evidence is so strong that hard evidence almost certainly exists, but we haven't found it yet.

Contact Virtualspade letting him know you wish to join the complaint.  Once the contract with the lawyer is funded you will be asked to provide details to the lawyer directly.

I understand why you don't want to be named (Govt not being respectful of state marijuana laws.. offering unlicensed securities..), but the name in this space is everything.  It is critically important.  

What marketable skills are you offering your potential clients?