Our problem is as much as BitCoin is not defined yet. Its not banned, nor is it accepted by the broader financial sector. All we have is a VERY convenient and transferable mean here.
We NEED a court case in a country that has something to say in the international market. That is one of the 5 UN permanent members. If anyone cares to open an exchange in France, UK, USA, Russia or China and register as exchange platform and take on the authorities once it grows to big, we have a definition. Until then we have Mtgox alike exchanges that will either fail due to insecure systems or pure scam.
+1 Barter is defined. Why would trading bitcoins be other then trading magical cards (other then it needs more security, ha. ha. ha.) ? |
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 God Bless USA, home of the free  Sorry for OT. |
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It's been almost 25 hours since I filed my claim. No word yet.
According to pool http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21137.0 no one of 50 voters have yet regained account. But perhaps they are doing it all at first secretly and then in one go re-enable all accounts? But then why not just post that yeap we recognize you as the account owner and so on. Makes me nervous a bit |
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Why someone votes >5 days, the Claims site is up since like 2 days so far. Didn't understand the pool?
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I thought they said once they got a large percentage of accounts verified they would do final approval in large batches, akin to flipping a switch once the account was in the verified "pool" so to speak
Hmm the site says: "Also, shortly after the backend is up and running we will allow customers with newly reclaimed accounts to login to Mt.Gox, and use the site as per usual, with the exception that active trading will be disabled."I'm changing the option to read not "I can log in" but " - or I have approved account re-claim" just to be sure. So noone yet has anything other then the 1st mail after claim that says basically "please wait"? |
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Over 50 voters and noone yet have account unlock?
Mtgox says over 10% are processed now.
Although perhaps people that DO have accounts processed are less likelly to be still on this forum going ballistic...
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test ok.. I did - allow users to change their vote
so where it button to cast other vote when you already voted? I fail at this boards system heh |
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UPDATE - mtgox ment just that 10% of accounts where requested to be reclaimed.[00:59:20] <MagicalTux> xelister: I mean that more than 10% of all the accounts on mtgox have made a requestYou can change your vote as it progresses. Claim your account on mtgox - https://claim.mtgox.comMTGOX users, Mark (the owner) and apparently his stuff are AFAIK also reachable on IRC for thoes that use that - on #mtgox on freenode.org, it is nice and wast way of communication - but we think just hammering them with questions is not going to help Btw, please say, is the option to change vote already casted working for you? I given such option when creating this pool - but I don't see such button in the post.
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mtgox is down right now, my conspiracy theory; the domain was still compromised by the hackers, acting like Mark, phising passwords for more win.
Incorrect, since we contacted mtgox.com owner Mark with other channels too. And he is on IRC. Unless he's entire computer was compromised - but then I really think he would be logging from some friends computer or a damn computer caffe already to tell us that Or cell his hosting and fax them documents. |
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There is really no need for a Bitcoin exchange to trade 24/7. It would be perfectly satisfactory to execute trades only between 10AM and 4PM Eastern, while letting people enter orders at any time.
Yeah, entire world is USA, USA Estern 10:00-16:00 is very good for libertarian cross boundary world wide currency trading platform. Fuck your arrogant US of A A-hole. FBI, USA time trading, next we should grant USA power to settle any disputes over bitcoin trades, controll it, take tx list not just from mtgox but for other sides too, and allow to revert blockchain, yey ) Seriously. If anything, there should be separate submarkets with say 3 main timezones and an 24/7 one (or for each trade set in which hours it should be active). That could be a good idea. |
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If they send the whole Database or DVD then I would question the competency level of an organization or individual with my money or confidential information. I would hope that most businesses would understand that you only send what is needed to get the job done and nothing more. If they do not understand that or take short cuts on their own accord to make it easier for themselves then I would take my business else where.
I don't get too why the hashes where sent out to some 'auditor'. And who the hell is that auditor anyway. |
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Nobody called Kevin, or any of the 5 or 6 other lucky traders who got a piece of that pie, a thief (Tux implied it, but nobody rational would steal that much money and then come forward like Kevin did). Option 3 would be a fine idea, If it were not such a large amount that got traded, and it weren't such a C-F as to the source of those funds. As it stands, a roll-back is the sanest way to get everyone as close to made whole as possible, and then they can proceed with paying back anyone who got shafted as a result.
It's rational if you realize you're going to be caught anyway. Did he come forward before he thought he'd be tracked down, or after? Seemed like after to me. Why should he, bitcoin is rather wild west. If you want a government regulated thing, try government bonds or something. |
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No, MtGox should pay those screwed (due to its incompetence) out of its own pocket! (Just to mention, I have no vested interest in that happening, so dont dismiss me on that count  ). I agree. The biggest trade @0.01 might be a special case if you want then you should froze his account and sue him and court will decide if he was the hacker or not... But this is bad too: running for help to government, involving police and all, this sucks. Everything now sucks. This is why the hacking was so horrible thing to allow. |
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In addition, you can have uncensored forums in FreeNET.
There are bitcoin boards in the main board systems - frost, fms, freetalk
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They were the most popular, they were the biggest.
Of course that makes them the number one target as well.
Their had a cluster fuck negligent fuck up instead of a security system. IT students do better job at security. Half of people that spoken about the DB leak has better knowledge about how the system should be secured. |
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@d.james
If the jury (us) reach a consensus, it is a great moment to see the impartiality of the judge.
If we all agree that it is plain ridiculous, and that actually Kevin should get compensated somehow, but MtGox takes an arbitrary position.
For me, that will be a ticker telling me to GTFO.
And I might do it if that happens.
Unfortunately every poll shows overwhelmingly a preference for a rollback. Every poll shows overwhelming support for wolves to eat the sheep. So what? There are just few people that gamed the AUCTION system when the price was very attractive. |
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Ok, so you're saying all I have to do is make a fake sign that a car costs $1, take that sign into a car dealership and place it next to a new car and if my fake was perfect, that's legal grounds to stand on and demand that car for $1?
Really now?
Btw if you're going to argue against my analogy, I believe a hacker dumping a lot of money on the exchange crashing the price to $0.01 almost perfectly resembles a fake sign for $1 next to a new car, wouldn't you say?
Yes, this is how it DOES work on auctions. Look: If the car salon has no real security as they should, and its car AUCTIONS, with NO MINIMAL PRICES, and they did not implement too much rules to stop or freeze obviously strange auctions or just close the shop, then in many countries - YES. There was a case where guy placed car on auction site, didn't set a minimal price. He claimed his kid do it etc. Either way, his problem. The car got sold for like 100 usd (whit it was worth ~10,000 usd on open markets). He was oredered by court to complete the deal.. |
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