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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 04, 2014, 01:32:42 PM
I was advised by my cousin that told me how to get signed up for this NEM currency that I should go online and I should go on this board and that I should post in this thread if I wanted to keep my place in line for this IPO or else someone would steal it from me.  Why would this happen?

This is not an IPO. You are expected to contribute so you might not be suitable if you are new to the crypto scene.


I do mean every stakeholders are expected to contribute in building NEM. It does not necessarily mean you need to contribute something right now since you could help NEM in the future by running nodes, spreading the words etc. The key word is that stakeholders are expected to contribute at some point. If you think of it as an IPO and you are an investor, then NEM is not for you at this phase.  
In short, stakeholders = contributors. Investors = someone putting money in and expect others to do the works, coding, promoting etc. This should be made clear.

I'm still a bit confused by this statement! What should i do exactly to Contribute in NEM?

Very good question. What's the consequence for "not contributing?" And who determines what a contribution is and how it is scored?

*EDIT*

Cleared a bit in above post.

It doesn't make sense to me.  For example, I got my stake for advertising for nem on another forum.  Others had to pay for theirs.  Are you now saying the folks that had to pay also have to work for it?
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
Yeah, i don't care, all people that know me, know of my flawless reputation. The only people that complained here were a troll and a clueless guy.

Also i think i am particularly bitchy today, maybe because i lost 5 digits at playing online poker today Sad

You may have lost 5 digits playing cards, but at least you made up for it by saving on transaction fees.

roflcopter
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
Wtb lots of NXT
Only escrow!

I can do escrow if you want and find someone to take up your offer.

make sure he includes the fee when he sends you yours. Kept me waiting for hours by not including it for mine.

lol, why should i pay for the fee? I sent what was sent to me^^

remind me to never use you as escrow.  you as the middleman had certain responsibilities here
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 03, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Can someone make a distribution graph/table and send it to me via PM?

Just to share out the distribution currently



which accounts in the top 20 are non contributing whales?
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 02, 2014, 09:30:05 PM

Would you talk to someone like this in a conference, when he comes to you and tells you his concernces about Nxt?

I didn´t mean you by the marketeer. I really appreaciate the work you put in Nxt, as well as I do with all the others that are doing anything to help Nxt get to the next level. I just wanted to point out, that this is not the way we should communicate with eachother on a PUBLIC forum.

+1440

I wish everyone would chill the fuck out...  I mean this is a hobby to me.  Albeit a very serious one.  So I dont let myself get pissed so easily.  Go take a walk outside, count to 10, get laid, ANYTHING besides getting pissed on a forums site.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 02, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
New versions of NxtWallet for mac and windows available at http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet/

sha256 of mac zip: 71f2862009d10fcd6179fb441f3bd16d200c905aa956180ea57f06a7532819cc
sha256 of win zip: a13b0b1c4a6791a3c51542e5b02d45b4bd02ef8e6e90d4e936e7a48a5a414802

Thanks!

Question; Do I need to download the blockchain at every new release?

no, just copy the nxt_db file over after the new nxt folder is unzipped
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 02, 2014, 08:23:28 PM


and BTW enjoy, 0.00007 is the new high, down we go from here!

Ermm. How can we have a new high? when our existing high is higher than 7k?

no kidding... I mean #5 on CMC is pretty freeking high...
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 02, 2014, 08:15:37 PM
Here is my offer:

12,000 NXT for 40078.8 XRP
That is the going peercover rate for Nxt through Ripple right now.

I will go first for trustworthy trader. Everyone here can play ref.

If i was you, which i'm not, I'd hold on to 6000 NXT. It's not a lot to lose and I'm pretty sure u won't lose.......
(How are u gonna feel in a few months time when NXT is trading at $1 or more per pop ?)

BTW: Have u ever done anything at all for NXT (and your own investment), besides criticise?

he showed up at a live conference and was on the panel.

Lol i am 99% sure that wasnt him Wink

my bad, I got the brian confused with nxtminnow.  sorry dude
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 02, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
anyone wants to buy Nxt from cryptsy and bter to beat Peercoin and get Nxt to the 4th position? Smiley
good job, but please go on to the Peercoin now

uh, sockpuppet login error?
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Transparent mining 3, or What way to choose on: April 02, 2014, 08:02:25 PM
what are you talking about "greed eyed monster" and references to the human element?

Are you asserting that BCNext left due to the few but very large, and inactive whales?  Surely not...  I dont see how any facet of his experiment would address the issue, on the contrary, his experiment ENABLED human greed  if this is why he left, then the 'failure' falls 100% on BCNext for cutting off the genesis at only 73 people, thus putting huge amounts of NXT into the hands of only a few people.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 02, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Here is my offer:

12,000 NXT for 40078.8 XRP
That is the going peercover rate for Nxt through Ripple right now.

I will go first for trustworthy trader. Everyone here can play ref.

If i was you, which i'm not, I'd hold on to 6000 NXT. It's not a lot to lose and I'm pretty sure u won't lose.......
(How are u gonna feel in a few months time when NXT is trading at $1 or more per pop ?)

BTW: Have u ever done anything at all for NXT (and your own investment), besides criticise?

he showed up at a live conference and was on the panel.  though not sure why hes freaking out so bad now.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Transparent mining 3, or What way to choose on: April 02, 2014, 12:31:43 AM
does ANYBODY know what it was BCNext wanted from us that we didnt do right?  Im still not sure if TF will ever happen, earlier CFB gave an april fools response to a question about TF and if he could complete it
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 01, 2014, 09:16:35 PM
Currently, I use floating in exactly one place. For calculating allocation of nodecoins...



Ill just hope that CIYAM didnt know this fact before getting us all riled up
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Transparent mining 3, or What way to choose on: April 01, 2014, 09:11:52 PM

well that one went above and beyond the avian carrier RFC of long ago
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Transparent mining 3, or What way to choose on: April 01, 2014, 09:02:36 PM
look at my very first post in this thread, there was no response, so im guessing its real
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Transparent mining 3, or What way to choose on: April 01, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
... The alternative is to implement Transparent Mining and try to handle people imperfection. The latter can't be done with pure math and even if you manage to find some laws you can't be sure that these laws won't change in the future. BCNext went for good, he doesn't feel himself responsible for the future of Nxt, he implemented an idea that was obvious but noone tried to do it (maybe because creation of a Bitcoin clone was much easier)...

Can someone explain, for an apparent dummy, how exactly we as a community have chosen poorly to make BCNext want to bail on us?  Was he planning on bailing all along?  Is ther other things he was goign to tell us how to do that we will no never know?   What choices were we given where we apparently chose wrong?  Were we expected to come up with the solution for full TF ourselves?  Did BCNext give us all the tools we needed, and yet we still failed?

Is this about the fees thing?  Had we chosen .01 or .001 for fees would he have still bailed?
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Transparent mining 3, or What way to choose on: April 01, 2014, 07:17:00 PM
... The alternative is to implement Transparent Mining and try to handle people imperfection. The latter can't be done with pure math and even if you manage to find some laws you can't be sure that these laws won't change in the future. BCNext went for good, he doesn't feel himself responsible for the future of Nxt, he implemented an idea that was obvious but noone tried to do it (maybe because creation of a Bitcoin clone was much easier)...

I dont get it... was the community supposed to figure out how to fully implement full TF?  WTFO or is some Apr 1 joke
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 01, 2014, 07:04:11 PM
CIYAM didnt 'find' a flaw.  The limitations and dangers of using floating point math for financial calculations have been well publicized.

Can you give a brief explanation why?

wikipedia has the laymans version

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point#Accuracy_problems

While floating-point addition and multiplication are both commutative (a + b = b + a and a×b = b×a), they are not necessarily associative. That is, (a + b) + c is not necessarily equal to a + (b + c). They are also not necessarily distributive. That is, (a + b) ×c may not be the same as a×c + b×c:

Like I said, this is a very well known limitation in the financial programming world.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 01, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
CIYAM didnt 'find' a flaw.  The limitations and dangers of using floating point math for financial calculations have been well publicized.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 01, 2014, 05:41:37 PM
wtf he still uses floating point?  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Indeed he has *bragged about it*.


wtf.... the techdev committee should just come out and say that nobody gets any unclaimed coins bounty from code uzilizing any kind of float data type.

I mean, I appreciate james' dedication and his skill in all the work hes doing, allbeit on no-quite-so trustless-systems work, as most likely they will be replaced by fully decentralized and trustless systems, but we just do NOT need any floating points running around
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