Still using the fake accounts eh?

Show me just one post where I claimed I said I have a full-time job in the investment industry and I will donate 500BC to you right now. Just one...

I said I have a wife and two daughters, anyone who has a wife and children knows a very busy social life is "rare".
Once again I will donate 500BC if you show me one post where I said I have a very busy social life.

I have multiple monitors and unlike you I can walk and chew gum at the same time. I can work,  monitor the BS on the forum, all while watching CNBC.
But I guess chatting on IRC 14 hours a day is not as bad is periodically watching the forum.

This coming from a person that is using multiple accounts and pretending to be something he is not.

I wished .....
Also, guess who was the first in crypto to offer cryptocurrency storage cards? Yup... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179727.0

He didn't get off scott free. He destroyed himself. IE time to get a new account, ya ?

I will say again...what kind of innocent person tries to distract people from the truth.

Yup

So.... who would be interested in Blackcoin USB Storage cards. I have a proven track record selling these (Bitcoins ones that is)

Here is what the Bitcoin ones look like:



Let me know via pm or on the development thread here:  

http://blackcointalk.com/index.php?topic=2252.msg2939#msg2939
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vnr5/blackcoin_usb_storage_cards_proven_track_record/

The Group Behind The Daily Dumping
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique

What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in BlackCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to  carefully read and analyze my words without prejudice.

When I first started to participate in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. If you look at my earlier posts from March and early April and compare them to my most recent posts you can clearly see a stark difference. Some people have been wondering if my "ego" has gotten out of control, or if something else is at play.

For a few weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to suppress the price of BC. I have hinted numerous times about this suppression, but I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this suppression without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful.

veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique and a few others are all responsible for manipulating the price of BlackCoin for several weeks.

Their  group owns roughly 10% of the total supply of BlackCoins. Apparently this is not enough for them and they want more. They decided since they cannot mine BC anymore they would use their supply of coins to keep the price down and buy coins from people cashing out. With the volume we previously had and other factors, this would have been a very slow process. So they came up with the idea of the multi-pool. They would trick everyone into thinking the multi-pool would help stabilize the price of BC, but instead they were using the multi-pool to obtain significant amounts of BC while using their supply to keep the price down. They were able to "dump" their coins, and use the multi-pool to buy more without a loss. Why do you think so much focus is on the multi-pool? The multi-pool is the key to their plan working, and the plan worked flawlessly until I came into the picture.

I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring when I started promoting BC. If you look at my early posts before anyone really "knew" me, there were early attempts to stop me from promoting BC, why? Why would anyone want to stop  me from promoting BC? Because any extra buy pressure would interfere with what they are currently doing.

I quickly became a thorn in their side because any extra attention I brought to BC interfered with their sell walls and that was a problem for them. So at every step they have been there to stop me from promoting BC. I started getting suspicious after the second press release but I assumed it was just "jealousy". I didn't become aware of this plan until after I announced the BlackCoin card. I was contacted by someone in their inner circle who was "pissed" about some issue they had, so he "snitched". He gave me just enough information to start putting everything together. My attitude changed from that day because I realized we could have been trading well above the price at the time if it wasn't for them.

So I went on the offensive and started making announcements everyday to keep the buy pressure up. I formed my own group and combined we have over 6 million BC. I had to make sure there was a counter "force" to what they were doing. Our attempts to suck up their BC with minor pumps failed multiple times. So I backed the public pump which I felt would finally stop them. However, I did not anticipate the outrage from the community and I back away because I knew one day I might have to make this announcement and my credibility would need to remain intact.

Around that time I was contacted again by another smaller group that also figured out what was occurring. Their plan was to attack the multi-pool and slow them down. I did not condone this tactic because of the legal ramifications, so I declined to take part in it. However, I did use that opportunity to push news to attempt to break their walls, unfortunately I failed.

I finally realized the only way I could stop them if I organized an event so huge even their sell walls would not be able to hold up. At this time I already knew Seopkip was loosely involved but I had to give the impression I was not aware of anything, so I presented the idea to him knowing they would find some way to put it on hold. At first their was talks of funding it so I would not go to the community, but I knew that was BS. Their plan was to keep me waiting while they came up with a plan to take away from the Wall Street event. I knew my time was running out so I announced the Wall Street event before they could kill it.

What did they do? They sent Gritt to post that comment on the article to take away some steam. Then they started to slowly organize a campaign against me to finally kill my efforts. When the CoinDesk article went live on Friday they decided to announce the PR firm campaign. That night it wasn't the CoinDesk article that made the price go up, it was them. I knew they were letting the price go up to make it seem their PR firm announcement was causing "excitement". So I took credit for the price increase to take away some of the "effectiveness" of their plan. That really pissed them off because they wanted to convince the community the PR idea was having a positive effect.

The PR firm is complete bullsh!t. They created the PR firm stunt to take donations away from Wall Street. They knew the community would want to support both ideas and the funds will be split. They also knew I would ask questions, and that would be their signal to attack me. They made it seem I was "jealous" and wanted "attention". Their plan is to slow the news down, and they will tell everyone the PR firm is working on ideas and it will take time to see results. This is just a stall tactic while they continue to accumulate cheap BC.

They noticed I was still getting donations so Colinfx came up with his "match your donation" campaign to take away any remaining attention from Wall Street. Haven't you noticed how much they have posting and spamming lately? Notice how they want everyone to go to Reddit and BlackCoinTalk? If you look before Friday they rarely posted in this forum. It is their way to hijack the "message".

Now please ask yourself these questions:

Why didn't they support the Wall Street event and try to kill it?
Why didn't they spam the CoinDesk article and get the news out?
Why haven't they sent out any press releases since the last release the community sent?
Why has their focus always been on the multi-pool?
Why did they announce their PR firm project around the same time as the CoinDesk news?
Why is Colinfx so willing  to match donations? 
Why didn't they make a big deal out of being added to Vault Of Statoshi?
Just look at all their promotional efforts, it revolves around the multi-pool.

Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt at a coup to take over, but please start asking yourself who has been dumping steadily all these weeks and why?

I  felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time.

This is not a signal to start dumping coins! Do not start dumping your coins!
rat4 and maarx are not directly involved in this plot. rat4 is only interested in making BC awesome, and maarx didn't fully understand what was going on behind the scenes.

Now that everyone knows what is going on behind the scenes we can be proactive at putting an end to this fraud, there is no reason to dump. We know exactly who is behind the sell pressure and there are ways to stop it. I have a group of members who are active in this community and they are ready to hit the ground running. I promise everyone that if you follow the plan I am about to layout we will finally skyrocketing by the end of Summer.

1. rat4 denounces the group and pledges to support the community in whatever decision is made.
2. Soepkip and Gritt resigns from the official dev team.
3. Members of this community stop mining on the multi-pool immediately.
4. veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13,  Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique all agree to not dump further until 60 days from now. They provide us with their public addresses so we can monitor them.
5. The group refunds all the donations received for the PR firm bullsh!t
6. The community picks someone to be the spokesperson for the dev team. (It cannot be me because I hold too much BC). It has to be someone that does not have a substantial amount of BC, but have the experience to help rat4.

Let me make it clear there is no need to dump. There is demand for the coin and the fact they have been applying sell pressure proves it. If we put a stop to them we will be back on track to being the #1 coin. Throughout the day people will come forward to offer their services and help, we can build a stronger team. The fact I did not dump my coins should give you comfort that I still believe in BC. All we have to do is get rid of the rotten few that have been suppressing our growth and we will succeed.

I have to say Sir, that you are one outstanding individual that is head and shoulders above so many of us here. You have selflessly supported Blackcoin from the outset, have maintained face throughout all the flak and fire and with grace and dignity are still here encouraging the community to get up and get involved. Add to that the fact that you are putting your REAL $$$ where your mouth is and there can then be no doubt Sir that you are indeed a man of substance, generosity and true heart.  You exhibit qualities on this forum that many could do with trying to emulate.

I take my hat off to you and Thank You on behalf of all the people that probably wont get to see what a massive positive impact you are having on their world and investment.e to say Sir, you are an outstanding selfless individual

Для rat4:
Можете ли вы ответить, если вы по-прежнему вовлечены в монеты?

Please read my previous post. I can understand your frustration, and if my use of "Hedge Fund" in some way offended you I am sorry. That was not my intention at all. I used "Hedge Fund" because a group of people pool their money together for an investment or investments. In this case it is to promote BlackCoin. So in essence it is similar to a hedge fund because part of promoting BC increase the value of everyone's portfolio, including mine.

That wasn't an attack at all, and if it appeared that way I sincerely apologize.

As for me... yes I am an investor but I am not asking the community to invest in something similar to a "hedge fund". I am asking the community to donate to projects that are community based. I have no problems letting someone else from my area help with any project I am a part of.

So, waiting to hear from Soekip on here, is he involved in this investment group? Is he not? If so, who does official tweets for Blackcoin now, and other social media? Hopefully not investment group. If Soekip is involved, i would hope community would expect him to step down immediately from either group or representation of the coin.

Lets get some transparency here, who is right now running the official BC social media, and if so, are they involved with investment group?

Transparency, The Foundation, Business, and Life in general.

The thread definitely seems to be shifting out the abusive smackdown phase and into the phase of the long-and-thoughtful post. All give praise, to the evolving collective consciousness that is Blackcoin. More humor, a lighter and more respectful tone, diminished 'ego', more focus on substance. I truly hope this thread is never shut down as it is an incredibly rich document of the new and largely uncharted social and monetary experiment called crypto.

As succinctly as I can, here are a few thoughts to consider on the questions of transparency, Foundation, insider ops, and running Blackcoin in a healthy, fair, and effective manner:

Absolute transparency on all fronts and at all times: not realistic, nor even possible. Furthermore, beyond certain limits it is not desirable. Closed-doors are to some extent a 'necessary evil'. They are inevitable, and with all their obvious dangers can nonetheless benefit the currency and its investors AS A GROUP. The negative aspects and risks can also be mitigated considerably through proper management and oversight. How well that goes will, yes, depend somewhat on the ethical standards of certain individuals, as well as on the general level of cooperation and orderliness within community as a whole. You need to consider end results, as compared with those of an 'absolute' democracy, with 'absolute' transparency (scare quotes here because these are only possible hypothetically).

Anyone with experience in the corporate world knows that there are things that stay protected within upper management, at least for a time, and for good reason. Planned innovations and other initiatives can be destroyed, lose all their power, be stolen, copied, even turned against one if released prematurely in the name of transparency. YES, the same closed door does create possibilities of abuse. It happens when individuals involved are of low character and sufficient mechanisms are not in place to stop them.

And please, let's not hear the childish refrain that "this is not corporate, this is not a business, this is decentralized!" Some of the same people who objected to my corporate analogies in the past are now making free use of them. Crypto is different from business in the traditional sense, but it also has a great deal in common with it, and every effective plan that been executed for the benefit of Blackcoin to date has been successful due to the business acumen and business-efficacy of the person/people responsible. The analogy largely holds, and we are too early in crypto's evolution to fully grasp where the analogy breaks down and fundamentally different thinking is required. This is largely uncharted territory, and we are the vanguard. We are the first settlers.

Coming back to the Foundation specifically, I strongly approve of its existence and its demonstrated level of conduct and efficacy thus far. I applaud its stated purpose, and its promise as an instrument for good. It's still evolving, and I recommend giving it a chance to do so. That said, if it does not have one already, it should have a charter and by-laws. That should be in written form and available to everyone. And it should be drafted in full view of the community, with all its inputs taken into account. The possibility of an elected oversight committee could also be considered. But these things all take time. Let's allow for that, and in the meantime not hobble ourselves from present action by demanding perfection by 6pm tonight.

New community milestone : CryptoAlts has hit its 100,000th BC paid out tonight! 

Some bullet points of significance:

-- The Doge: In the Blackcast, effectively, you said you rolled your joint but someone not paying attention to the preliminaries would have easily missed that and take that your were smoking grass as a statement... as, in fact, by your own recognition, you were making that statement only about tobacco. Sir, you came off, by far, the most eloquent of the group. By far. But your tobacco/grass statement was made and perceived by the audience and, sir, when you are representing BlackCoin, those "statements" are simply damaging for the image of Blackcoin. Besides, the three of you smoking seemed like a clumsy and blatant "product placement" of the tobacco/grass industry. You are obviously free to smoke whatever you want but you should think a few times what you do when you publicly represent BlackCoin. And someone should have advised you three that simultaneously smoking constantly during the blackcast was simply not acceptable. Naturally this critique would have more than probably be banned in your other forums: Contrary to pretensions otherwise, those other forums ONLY look for compliance, censorship and avoiding deserved -and beneficial- criticisms. You guys are NOT doing BlackCoin any good hiding in plain sight. You will have your followers, of course, but don't be fooled, the people investing in BlackCoin will go there where the TRUTH, in all it's sides and implications, is freely spoken, not to the "domesticated" sites you control.

-- morituri13 Who are you, sir? How much (in specific numbers and the wallet number for corroboration) have you invested currently in BC and what are your credentials to not only be a member of the "Foundation" but one outspoken one at it? "Small business owner" (thank you for at least giving that bit out), as in having an eBay seller account, hardly qualifies. But why don't you dissipate all doubts and tell us all who you are and how invested in BC you are.

-- Transparency. We all want it. Doge, we learned in the blackcast that when called you had "the team" ready. Who are them? What entitles them to be part of the proposed -or formed- "Foundation. As fellow investors, we NEED to know who this people are, what their level of investment is and why they volunteer to guide BC's destiny going forward, otherwise the entire group will be perceived as your sock puppets and we don't want to have that perception, do we?

-- Multipool. DOGE, I am still extremely confused about who is behind the multipool and running things there: Soepkip stated that the multipool "is not connected with the dev team" and that "it is important but not vital to BC". If you are "the man" behind that business (and that is exactly what it is, a profitable business, aside and benefiting from BC), can you please clarify? Who runs things at the Multipool, on the controlling side and on the tech side? and is it or isn't it a part of the BC project or a separate business profiting from it, meaning YOU, profiting from it? Look, you have invested time, money and a lot of effort in bringing this coin out and are responsible for it's success so far. If you are really invested in it, you have profited already enormously, to the tune of many thousand % of whatever was your initial investment. And that big stash of BC will make you even richer, very much richer indeed, if BC reaches a substantially higher valuation. THAT, sir, should be your motivation. If the multipool is a business on the side, then it should compete in offers with other pools ready to take on the BC business and RESPONSIBLE for whatever shortcomings -and DDOS attacks- they may have. If one multipool fails, for whatever reason, there have to be immediate back ups in numbers to insure practically flawless, continuous operation. If the multipool is in fact a "side business" or yours. If it is a business of BlackCoin, meaning all proceeds from it go to BlackCoin development, we need to have that aspect clear as clear water.

On the multipool point: Who makes the decisions as to what coins are mined? and why, which are his qualifications for that, what the strategy? Are the mining proceeds converted to BlackCoin immediately, regardless of the trading rate or, as I have read, those proceeds are first converted to BTC, held, and then converted to BC on "dips". Finally, officials at Cryptsy have stated that the delays reported and blamed on them yesterday, regarding payouts to miners, were in fact Multipool's fault for not having established 2FA, which is required from everyone. What was it?

-- Iconic's attacks. Although there's some poetic justice in the developments of the last 48 hours on that field (he's the one prone to promote bannings of dissenting people... dissenting with some or all or his opinions/methods), the juvenile peculiarity of the attacks, the viciousness in some cases and the totally inappropriate way of going about it by a seemingly coordinated gang, totally discredits those -including the devs- who have willingly and repeatedly participated, instead of the chosen target. Once again, I find the guy generally regrettable, an out of control dangerous egomaniac without capability of accepting criticism and in on this to make a buck by any means he find necessary, both on the coin valuation and on side business such as his card. But the attacks on him personally are, clearly, politically motivated. I don't personally know how much has he invested in BC but I am fairly sure he won't have any problem showing his wallet for everyone to see. If for no other reason that to keep him in check and benefit from some of his ideas, the proposed "Foundation" should have offered him a seat in their board. But it seems that the Foundation, with or without quotes, is more or less a fan club (of the DOGE) grabbing territory before "that crazy guy" gets the bulk of the community on his side and actually running things". Hastily doing so, can easily prove to be counter intuitive and obviously shows weakness. Repercussions, potentially serious ones, are sure to follow.