That depends what you define as owning the forum though, surely? Theymos might not have control over the domain but he does have control over the servers, the data, and has access to all of the BTC (either directly or via multisig contracts which allow him to demand the private keys from the other parties). If bitcointalk.org got redirected to a different site, it would really be a relatively small issue - theymos could simply acquire another domain and that would become the new Bitcointalk.

Regardless, I don't think it particularly matters. I imagine if Cobra wanted to be rid of the domain that he would peacefully hand it over.

There is already a caption contest going on: https://bitcointalk.org/captions.php

The whole idea of that contest is to collect notable posts which detail the history of the forum, important events in Bitcoin's history as a whole, and so on and so forth. No-one is stopping you from making threads on these topics either - I don't feel that there needs to be a contest for that, the whole idea of a forum is to create and participate in discussions

Absolutely not. Really really bad idea. You could just bounce merit back and forth between you and as many users you wanted, up to the 50 merit limit per person, and farm merit incredibly quickly. Way too open to abuse or just stupid usage in general.

That halving serves a very good purpose, if it wasn't there then merit sources would barely be needed.

I don't expect this rise to $10k to last. I expect a pretty swift correction back down to the $8.5k range within the next few days and my prediction is that we will stay around there, as I don't think that there is enough buying power in the market right now to support a $10k level for more than a couple days.

Personally I think the rise is not due to Xi but just a response to the large drop that we had recently.

Sorry, but there is no way in hell you are not faking your trades. No traffic, exchange that's never been heard of and has about 50 likes on Facebook, and this is what your trading screen looks like -

https://i.gyazo.com/f1e0b4c9b9cd72072c831b648056b6e0.mp4

Both the buy and the sell book being completely re-organised every fraction of a second? And a trade history which looks like this:



Versus Yobit's, which while being a kind of crap exchange is at least significantly more established:



So you guys are apparently pulling about 15x more trades in ETH/BTC consistently than Yobit is. You're even slightly edging out Poloniex, a very established exchange.

Can you explain this to me?

You need to post high quality content and get merit. You need 1 Merit to become Jr Member and 10 Merit to become a Member.

Looking at your posts I don't see anything that I'd consider deserving of merit. A lot of one-liners and similar low-quality stuff. Put decent amounts of effort into some of your post and someone will merit you soon enough.

You said that not earning merits doesn't mean a user is spamming. I never said that it did, so I'm not sure why that's relevant. A user who doesn't spam and just posts 'meh' posts all the time, that don't break forum rules but aren't particularly amazing, would never gain or lose any merit even with this system. Their rank would remain the same.

If someone is having posts deleted by a moderator for breaking forum rules - then yes, they deserve a demerit. The demerit's purpose isn't as a metric to measure spam, it's a punishment for them spamming.

What does this even mean?? You've posted something which isn't really relevant to the thread, I assume for your signature campaign.

This thread isn't about 'picking random coins', the thread is about someone being mis-sold on what Bitcoin SV is by a member of the BSV team - it's a classic tactic of the people involved with BSV to claim that it is simply Bitcoin. In reality, it's not. (you can argue that it is as it is a direct fork off the main chain, but IMO, by definition, the fact it is not the most recognized chain means that it is not the 'true' Bitcoin).

Welp. I don't have any other way to respond to this post, other than by offering a quote from the greatest movie of all time, Spy Kids 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPRO2SApO8

Have any of you actually looked into what the puzzle transactions are or are you just trying to post farm?

Some collisions have been found for puzzle transaction addresses already. The Large Bitcoin Collider is a project that looks for these collisions and they have been successful multiple times in the past.

Part of it is that these puzzle addresses have a fairly predictable pattern to them (I've forgotten what it is), and also that each bitcoin address has around 2⁹⁶ private keys that resolve to it. So you don't need to find someone else's private key, just a private key that also resolves to the same address.


Native segwit - transactions coming from segwit addresses have smaller size and therefore lower fees.

Had the same issue as hugeblack, it is a shame to see that you don't support native segwit addresses.


I would note that I much, much prefer the 'bitcoin' theme on your site to the 8bit one. The bitcoin theme is really clean, looks quite nice, has colours that work well together, and doesn't look tacky like the 8bit theme does. Why don't you set that to the default theme?

Smells a bit dodgy to me. You've got 4 million dollars in volume on your 'new' exchange which has no traffic and needs testers?

Asking 'testers' to deposit their money in your exchange is equivalent to you walking into a bank and asking for a loan with no credit score. If you give them test currency to test features on your exchange, then I can understand that, but else - no chance mate.

Edit: - just looked at your order book - IMO it changes way too rapidly and randomly to be organic. Basically every visible order on the order book changes every fraction of a second. On an exchange that you announced two days ago as 'new'. Right...

I merit posts that I don't agree with regularly, as long as they put effort in their arguments, or if they make me re-think my position even a little bit.

We can't simply write the whole system off because there are a few people who abuse it, and we definitely shouldn't just say "to hell with all of it, let's make the problem 10x worse". If you think the system is messed up, why don't you suggest improvements?

My hope is eventually people will agree on an improvement together and it will be implemented. It might not be this one but that's okay.

If they aren't going to pay back at the cap amount, they certainly aren't going to pay back a higher amount. The idea was because interest rates on Bitcoin loans are what pretty much everyone outside of the community would consider loanshark rates, and I feel that a max cap, arbitrarily agreed by both parties, makes it a little fairer on both parties. For instance, if something horrible happens to the lendee but they still want to make good on their liabilities, then a cap stops them from coming back to a loan which is 10x what they originally borrowed.

Absolutely. If someone is going to scam they'll do it anyway. The idea behind a contract is to reduce conflict and arguments over small details, and to remove ambiguity.

I think a lot of people who have replied haven't really read this thread. Replies which criticise the idea but have read the thread, I'm perfectly okay with, but I'm not okay with people skimming the title, popping off a reply based on that, and then moving onto the next thread.

First of all - I said the option to demerit, and not that every post deletion would result in a demerit, so all of the people who have said "posts can be deleted for reasons other than spam" - you clearly have not actually read my post. I explicitly said in the OP that there would be a Delete option for posts which are deleted for reasons other than spam, and that DDelete (Demerit/Delete) would be for spam, breaking forum rules, etc.

Secondly - I explicitly wrote moderators both in the title and the OP. So the fact that some people are saying "but people can delete posts in self-moderated threads so we can't do this" is completely ridiculous. I can't figure out how you could possibly read my post and say that still.

Some replies to people:


This is irrelevant to my thread, and I assume you're trying to address it to my idea as you say it's stupid to give delete/demerit power to mods. But nothing in my post implied that not earning merits makes you a spammer. I assume that you were trying to address this to the person who suggested merit decay and tried to tie it into the OP to keep it on-topic and messed up.

Obviously for someone to be demerited their specific post would have to be removed by a Moderator using DDelete. Again, the thread does make explicitly clear that this is not a "-1 merit whenever a post is deleted", it's more nuanced than that. Also see above - moderators have this option, so posts from a self moderated thread deleted by the OP could never result in a demerit.

Haven't read my thread at all, as this is not a "demerit button"

See my complaints above. Discussion in this thread should be about moderators having the option to deduct 1 merit when they delete a post. Other forms of demerits are irrelevant.

This is probably top reason #1 that users can't demerit posts as I can't imagine a worse reason to demerit a post than "I disagree with it".

Thanks all. I'm out of energy to keep responding for now. If I feel like this topic just ends up being spammed up by people who haven't read the thread I'll just end up locking it rather than let non-constructive discussion fester.

I think that you haven't read my post properly, because I'm not suggesting a blanket removal of 1 merit every time someone's post is reduced. Please spend the 30 seconds to read my idea properly and then comment your opinion - I can tell you haven't as you wrote 'a deleted post is not only about spam' while my post addresses this directly.

Surely with this system any drama being caused would be getting caused anyway by the deletion of the post? So this wouldn't cause any 'extra' drama, because these would be posts that would be getting deleted and causing a mess anyway

I'd be good with that system. If I lose a couple merit then oh well, I'm not personally going to kick up a fuss.

My opinion here is similar to Quickseller's.


The difference for me is that I don't believe that no-one should be able to demerit at all (which can result in loss of access to certain features), I just think it should be limited to staff and be something that happens alongside post deletion. (you'd be a pretty good patroller imo!)

So yeah, unfortunately I can't support this in full, sorry

Both of you need to seriously follow the forum rules. Stop double posting, edit your old posts, and stop making posts that just quote your previous posts without adding anything new.

I think you both should consider this resolved by now and IMO Blockchayne should lock the thread. There is clearly no more constructive discussion that is going to come out of here. Blockchayne, you still should give credit to the template you used.

BTC. I use signature campaigns to accumulate BTC which I hold for fun, use to purchase things guilt-free (right now I'm saving up for some gold!), so on and so forth. I find I get some kind of mental block once I've got cash in hand or in my bank account that I don't get when I spend earned BTC - very weird, but it works fine for me and I guess it helps me to save money