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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 09, 2017, 02:51:21 AM
Sidenote: There has been some pretty harsh posts by some members here lately, and we have decided to delete a few of those posts. We want to keep this thread as informative and useful for potential investors as possible. Even if someone has a critical view of our project let's keep things courteous. If you have a critical question that is also fine, but make sure that your question has not already been answered in this thread or they will get deleted.  

How will the team ensure that the refunds are immediate and automatic as they say? Because I've seen several projects with a similar concept (buybacks) and it didn't end well as the funds set aside was immediately exhausted when the token value after the ico went down. How will the team ensure this won't happen with the refunds?

Because the refunds are built into the Ethereum smart contract and fully automatic.

Even if the price of Angel Token would go to zero on the exchange this is has no bearing on our ability to refund investors.


All investor funds are 100% protected inside the Angel Token Central Bank through the Ethereum smart contract, allowing investors full control over 80% of their investment at any time up until March 7th, 2018 and 40% until April 26th 2018.

This a completely different process from the type of buy-backs that you are referring to.

Here is some more information on how the refund process works.

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The refund is a fully automatic process that is built into the Ethereum smart contract, allowing YOU as the investor to “back out” of Angel Token with a minor loss of maximum 20% in the event the price of Angel Token on the exchange does not rise like you expected, or if you are not happy with us as a team and how we are running things, or the investments we are making etc.

For whatever reason you would rather get your Ether back you can choose to do so with 80% until March 7th, 2018, and 40% from March 7th until April 26th.

There are no special skills needed to claim your refund, should you choose to do so.

You do not need to have any more  understanding of how smart contracts work than you need to know about car engine mechanics in order to drive a car.

You just need to know how to send Ether and Tokens from your https://www.myetherwallet.com/ and this you can easily learn on YouTube, or on https://angelinvestors.io/go

In order to initiate a refund you simply send back the amount of tokens that you want to refund FROM THE SAME ETHEREUM ADDRESS THAT YOU INVESTED IN THE ICO FROM, (so you MUST have control of this address and it can NOT be an address on an exchange).

Then within a few seconds your Ether is automatically refunded to your wallet.

 
So there is no complicated process to go through, (and there is no “approval” needed from us or anything like that).

You as the investor have total control.

Partial refunds are also possible. So if for example you are not particularly happy with how things are going in a couple of months, but you would like to remain with 10% of your original investment in the project you can refund part of your tokens if you want.

The only conditions are:

1. You must have purchased Angel Tokens during the ICO, and you must have the private key to the wallet you sent your investment from.  We strongly recommend https://www.myetherwallet.com/ but other Ethereum wallets such as Mist will also work. The refund is ONLY applicable to investors who buy tokens during the ICO. It is not applicable to those only acquire their tokens on an exchange.

2. You can not refund MORE tokens than you purchased during the ICO. So if for example you buy 100,000 tokens during the ICO and then another 100,000 on the exchange a few weeks later when we are listed there, you can ONLY refund a maximum of 100,000 tokens, which was the amount you got through the ICO.

The point to remember is that there is no complicated process and no special knowledge needed to get your refund, and YOU as the ICO investor have total control over what you want to do with 80% of your funds.

We think this is the future of ICOs...

There are so many tokens of the same kind. What would you say is your business proposition as compared to your competitors?

We don't believe that there are any tokens or ICOs that offer what we do.

We offer investors the ability to actively take part in selecting and vetting investments in our Angel Token fund. These are investments in small-cap cryptocurrencies that have great potential but that have for some reason not yet achieved their true market cap and worth.

Our team will work actively with the founders, early miners and other large stakeholders in those coins and offer them the expertise and resources from our team and the Angel Token Foundation, to help them improve and better market their cryptocurrency. In return we will buy a stake in these coins (usually off the exchange market and at a discounted price), which will be added to the Angel Token portfolio.

We think the combination of an active investor community that take part in and vote on the investments we make, as well as regular dividends and the potential for massive returns from the small-cap coins we invest in makes us a very attractive ICO.

When you also take into consideration that we offer investors a protection of their funds, making it IMPOSSIBLE for any ICO investor to lose more than 20% of their Ether investment before March 7th, 2018 we think our ICO is really a "no brainer" for anyone looking for big returns. We offer all the potential upside with very little downside risk.

42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 05, 2017, 12:00:29 AM
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43  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: December 04, 2017, 11:05:22 PM
Thanks a bunch LLEC and the entire Angel Token team. Campaign was very well organized and payments of course were on time! Great working with you guys and good luck going forward

Thanks very much for your kind words.  Smiley

Thank you for info's updates.

So by per today, I will remove my Angel Token signature.

I'm pleased having great working with Angel Token team.



We appreciate your help. Smiley


I have made only 6 posts in this week..Will i get paid or not??

Did you have posts "rolling over" from last week, then yes, but if you were already paid last week and only have 6 posts this week then no. We had a 30 post minimum, but we actually only enforced it at 20 posts because we didn't want people to post crap on the forum just to get the count up to 30...

Thanks Llec and team for the well managed campaign, payments were always right on time. My first campaign and it was a pleasure Smiley

It was a pleasure having you on board! Smiley


Thank you for great campaign, i hope to work with you in the future. I am still wearing signature campaign as of right now but i will remove when accepted to other campaign.

Thank you. Smiley


Thanks a Lot LLEC. All the best for your future campaigns. I wish you and entire Angel Team for big success in future.
I really like the way you approached for quality posting with rewards. That was really motivated!!!


Good to hear. It was our little attempt at trying to raise the quality of signature campaigns on the forum a bit. Not sure how many people cared or took notice, but glad someone did! Wink

BTW, we still haven't announced all the winners yet so keep an eye out for that tomorrow or Wednesday. Wink

Thank you Llec for fair campaign, good luck with your upcoming ICO.

Thank you! Smiley


Removing signature & avatar now.Thank you Llec.

Wishing your project a great success.

Thank you! Smiley

Thank You LLec and AngelToken. Wish you best of luck for the project in future and may it gets a lot of success.
Good luck.


Thank you very much! Smiley

I am now leaving the campaign, thank you, wishing you all the best.

Same to you! Smiley

Thank you guys for the opportunity to work with you and learn about angel token. hope for your success and good luck. We will wait for the payments this coming Wednesday . Cheesy

We appreciate your help and wish you all the best too! Payments coming tomorrow or Wednesday. Smiley
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Angel Token Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 04, 2017, 09:38:17 PM
I do know its hard to keep track of all the people posting in your campaign its just generally a bad idea to pay people to post because usually they just end up posting useless shit in threads they shouldn't. I actually came here from Ambercoin thread a thread that has been dead for a long time I check into from time to time and there where a couple of posts in there that made no sense whatsoever and seemed to have com from bots or just someone copy pasting for no reason.
"Bitcointalk Username:Crislyn4116
Rank:jr member
Bitcointalk profile URL:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1091518
BTC Address:3PzSBL9DhzuRSBq5nQVEt1XMjc94aSvVuh
Current post count:63+1
"
I then found in their history so I have to assume that post was for your benefit.
Then I looked into your website and found the anonymous part + the "guarantee" none would lose more then 30% until march 7 or something like that and I felt compelled to write that post.

You are coming to our ICO thread to spam here about how you think signature campaigns is a bad idea!???

Seriously!!??

As a Legendary member I think you would be well aware by now that Signature campaigns is used by pretty much every single large project on Bitcointalk. If you have a problem with that please bring it up with Theymos instead of coming here to spam our thread.

Yes, we ran a signature campaign but we tried to do it as clean as possible by rewarding those who made quality posts.

The user you have an issue with:

Bitcointalk Username: Crislyn4116
Rank: jr member
Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1091518
BTC Address: 3PzSBL9DhzuRSBq5nQVEt1XMjc94aSvVuh

THIS PERSON IS NOT A MEMBER OF OUR SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN AND HAS NOT BEEN FROM DAY ONE. IN FACT, I DON'T EVEN THINK HE/SHE HAS APPLIED TO BE PART OF OUR CAMPAIGN!

You have clearly done very little reasearch on the Angel Token project, (nor on our signature campaign before coming here complaining about it!), and you simply don't understand the benefits of an anonymous team for a project like this.

In regards to us offering what is possibly the most generous "early investor bonus" of any ICO to date this has already been discussed numerous times. Both the positive aspects for those investors who get in early, (the first 20 million tokens or so), and the negative aspects for the later investors. You can start by reading here if you actually care: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385917.msg24801632#msg24801632

I wasn't sure if I was going to delete your comments or not, since you hadn't even bothered to check out that the person you came here to complain about was a part of our campaign, but I will just let your comments stay up now for transparancy.

However, as has been mentioned before we are trying to keep this Announcement thread CLEAN from the same questions being repeated again and again by people who don't even bother to read the thread before posting, so we are now done with the conversation and will delete any more questions that are repeating what has already been clearly explained.

We want it to be a useful resource for those potential investors who have GENUINE questions about the project that we may not have answered already, or answered poorly, not your spammy comments about "why signatures campaigns are bad".[/i]



45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 04, 2017, 04:01:01 PM
GOOD NEWS - WE HAVE PASSED OUR FIRST (SMALL) MILESTONE OF 500 ETHER RAISED!

HELP US SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT ANGEL TOKEN AND MAKE THIS ICO A SMASHING SUCCESS!
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 04, 2017, 02:25:18 PM
Lol just lol.

Anonymous team , paying people to post garbage all over the forum in dead threads and ones belonging to other coins that have no interest in this.
To top things off Huge 600% + bonus to get in first investing lol .. meaning after the first lvl anyone dumb enough to invest will have a huge disavantage.

HUGE RED FLAGS


You guys could be legit but I highly doubt it feel free to try and convince me your not a bunch of thieves.


I think there is no point in trying to convince you of anything, your mind seems pretty firmly set...  Roll Eyes

If you are genuinely interested in this project all of the so called "huge red flags" that you are bringing up have been thoroughly addresses in this thread already, meaning I really should delete your post as per our thread rules, (you have to bring up a genuine point that has not already been answered or addresses in the thread, or otherwise add value to the thread).

However, since you openly criticized our signature campaign and blame us for spamming the forum, I will let your comment stand and answer that.

1. I think you will find few people who care about this forum as much as we do. A couple of us on the Angel Team first learned about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies here on this very forum back in 2011, and we will be forever grateful for having the opportunities this forum has given us.

2. How many campaign managers do you know that manually check every single post in their campaign? We have had a team of 3 who have been doing exactly that and discounted all bad/spammy/low value posts.

3. We denied more than 50% of all "good" applicants in our signature campaign. I am not talking about those on the SMAS list or a outright spammers, but from those that were left after those basic checks less than 50% were approved to take part in our campaign, because we only wanted the best. We also banned several posters during the campaign who were simply not posting any high quality posts.

4. I agree that it is hard to find genuine quality posts on the forum nowadays which is also why we handed out $200 every week to the top quality posters. How many campaigns have you seen doing that? It is not easy but we have spent around $15,000 on this campaign and we have tried very hard to actively work towards higher quality posts in our campaign.

5. Since you responded to paolo99 who actually was our first week's winner for "best quality posts" I urge you to find some examples of him spamming the forum?

Let's be clear about a couple of things.

- You may not like our project, bonus plan or the fact that we have decided to stay anonymous or semi-anonymous. That's ok!

- This is the first signature campaign we have ever run (and the first ICO for any of us) and we have tried our utmost to run as clean of a campaign as possible. For anyone else to say something different is simply unfair.

- If you read through this thread and the answers from me and Alex, as well as join our Slack community you have every opportunity to understand what we are about and what we are trying to do, as well as get to know us better.
47  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: December 04, 2017, 04:58:59 AM

The Angel Token Signature Campaign has now come to an end and you can feel free to remove your signature at any time.

Of course, if you want to keep on promoting us that is greatly appreciated, but you will not be paid for any further posts after midnight Sunday night.

We will shortly be starting up our new Social Marketing Bounty campaign, so keep your eyes open for that in the next days!  Smiley

As in the previous weeks, everyone will be paid on Wednesday the 6th by midnight forum time, including any posts that have rolled over from past weeks and that you have not been paid for.

We would like to say a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who has helped promote us during the past weeks!  Smiley

48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 03, 2017, 05:51:54 PM
What is the dividend payout ratio?
Per quarter how much of the profit is paid out to members with > 10,000 coins?
How transparent will the financial statements be? Ie - disclosure of entry and exit points/amounts and subsequently what level of transparency will the insiders see where their money is going/divs getting paid out.

Good looking project - and I'm about to pull the trigger on a 10k bundle but I want to know that investors will be getting a decent peice of the profit pie first.
Cheers!
B

What is the soft-cap for this ICO - is there a limit of $ you need to raise to complete this project? What happens if you don't have the interest? Full refund of ETH deposited?
Do you have any referral program ?
Thanks

What the minimum to buy ico

BUMP - hey devs are you there??


Lot's of questions, and yes we are here, just not "all the time"... Wink

1. In regards to the dividend payout this is explained inside the white paper and also on the very first post here in this thread under: "The Main Purpose of Angel Token".



HOW THE FUNDS RAISED DURING THE ICO WILL BE USED - THE MAIN PURPOSE OF ANGEL TOKEN


The Ether raised during the Angel Token ICO will be used to invest in, and assist, undervalued small to medium size cryptocurrencies reach their potential in terms of users, awareness and market capitalization.

It is our aim to continually grow the Angel Token crypto investment portfolio in value, and to make regular dividend payments in Ethereum to all Angel Token investors holding 10,000 tokens or more. (This limit is due to transactional costs.)

We make no specific promises either as to the amount of expected growth of our investment portfolio or dividend payments. However, our aim is to distribute up to a maximum of 25% of our portfolio growth each quarter that we reach a new "portfolio high watermark".


However, let me clarify this a bit further since you seem to assume that what is not paid out as dividends doesn't go back to the investors.

This is incorrect, apart from the management fee of between 0.75% and 1.5%, as explained in the white paper, 100% of all gains go towards the Angel Token holders in one form or another.


The only question is what is the RIGHT amount to pay as a dividend, and what is the RIGHT amount to keep inside the Angel Token portfolio to continue to grow the value of the portfolio, (which will then in turn grow the value of the Angel Token price and market cap).

We discuss this dilemma at some length inside the white paper, but here is a part of it for those that have not bothered to read it, (hint: never make investments without first reading the white paper!).

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We believe the true value of an asset should be defined as a combination of the expected income from that asset together with the expected capital return.

We have therefore decided that the Angel Foundation will pay dividends to Angel Token holders.

All dividends will be paid in Ether.

Angel Token will only pay a dividend if the portfolio has reached a new high at the end of the quarterly period in Ether terms.

The reason for this is that should the portfolio be recovering from a falling market, then taking a dividend from the portfolio will add to the amount that the portfolio would have to rise to reach a new record high.

With dividends there is always a trade off between paying large dividends, which is attractive to investors short-term but restricts the growth of the portfolio long-term, and paying small dividends.

Meaning, that if the dividend is small it keeps more funds in the portfolio and since those funds are growing it enables larger dividends in the future. The calculations that we have done on the expected growth of the portfolio have given us to believe that a sensible dividend strategy will be in investor’s long-term interests.

The Angel Foundation aims to pay a dividend in the region of 10% to 25% of the GROWTH in the value of the portfolio in the preceding quarter.

The Angel Foundation will declare any dividend payable to Angel Token holders on the following dates every year:

- January 23rd
- April 23rd
- July 23rd
- October 23rd


Any dividends payable will be paid 7 days after the dividend declaration date, which is hereafter referred to as the “dividend payment date”. The dividend payment date falls on the following dates each year:

- January 30th
- April 30th
- July 30th
- October 30th


2. The question in regards to a softcap has been explained here already:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385917.msg24979608#msg24979608

I have followed this project and I think it looks like a great opportunity.

I really think you will be able to make a lot from pumping small altcoins and I want to be part of that!  Grin

I am 100% for sure going to invest but I have one important question.

What happens if you only raise 5% or 10% of the total 31150 Eth that you have set as your hard-cap?


We will be happy to have you on board, and let me answer your question! Smiley

If we only raise 5% or 10% then that's what we will run with.


It is important that you understand that we are already operating this type of trading profitably by ourselves, without any external investors.

The idea behind this ICO is to be able to "take things to the next level", and the more we raise the higher that level will be.


Let me give you a couple of examples.


1. The more trading capital you have the more you are able to "control the exchange market" in a smaller size coin.

When you hold a substantial stake in a fairly low volume coin and you also have a large amount of capital available, you have a lot of "power" in the market. This is especially true when you are in direct contact with other major stakeholders in this coin...

The more Ethereum we raise the larger size coins we will be able to "work with" from this point of view.


2. In the past we have more or less acted as passive investors in the positions we have taken.

The more Ethereum we raise during the ICO the more resources we will be able to commit towards actually working with the founders and communities of the coins we invest in to improve them. Let's consider this "the Angel Investor" part of the operation.

With only a small amount of Ethereum raise this part of the operation will be more limited, and we will have to choose our investments more carefully to make sure that we can actually provide the resources they need to succeed in the marketplace.


3. The fewer investors we have the less "community power" we will have.


What I mean here is that we strongly believe in the idea that "more brains are better than a few" when it comes to certain types of jobs.  

We have a very clear plan for how we want to "use" the community for everyone's benefit, but with each person only needing to take on what we refer to as "micro tasks". This relates both to investment research before we make investments, and also later on, creating awareness and helping our investments reach a larger market share.

This is what we refer to as "Investment Crowd Intelligence" in the white paper.

Apart from this we also believe that the more active investors we have bringing forward potential investments and ideas the better it will be for us all as all.  Smiley

We do NOT have a referral program.


Please understand that Angel Token is NOT some form of MLM scheme or similar, it is more like a combination of an investment in a high-risk hedge fund and a "crypto incubator" for small-cap altcoins.

3. In regards to a minimum investment this question has been answered here already:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385917.msg24380496#msg24380496

This is a very impressive project, for the first investor will get an extra 690% bonus tokens. This is amazing.

How much the least purchase value allowed dev?

There is no minimum investment, but realistically anything less than 0.1 Ether wouldn't be worth the transaction fee for the gas I would think.

Although there is no minimum it is important to note that in order to become a part of the "Private Angel Token Investment Community", which is where we will openly share and discuss our altcoin investment research, and Angel Token holders get to have their say and vote on the investments we make, you need to own a minimum of 10,000 Angel Tokens.

The same holds true in order to take part in dividend payments that are made in Ether each succesful quarter, you need to own a minimum of 10,000 Angel Tokens.

The price of Angel Tokens are 1 Ether per 1265 tokens, so normally you would need to invest 7.9 Ether to become a member of the "Private Investment Community" and the quarterly dividend payments.

However, due to the incredible bonus structure incorporated in this ICO you COULD actually acquire 10,000 Angel Tokens for as little as 1 Ether, but you will probably need to invest immediately after the ICO launch on November 27th at 12:00 GMT, because we expect that the tokens will be sold quickly in the beginning as everyone wants to catch the best bonus.

For each 1 million tokens sold the bonus drops...but you COULD get 10,000 Angel Tokens for as little as 1 Ether, (and get 8735 bonus tokens!), if you are early enough, and some investors will grab those big bonuses!  Smiley

4. We strongly advise anyone who is considering investing in Angel Token to read the white paper and also the questions and answers in this thread, so they are 100% aware of what they are investing in. Please also join us on Slack over here: https://angelinvestors.io/slack where hundreds of investors are already on the "inside" and there is often many lively discussions going on.

49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 01, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
I am in with 1.49 eth. I hope everything goes fine.

Welcome on board.  Smiley

Make sure you join our Slack community over here: https://angelinvestors.io/slack

We won't let you down!  Wink
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: December 01, 2017, 05:53:14 PM
Good news, ANGL token is listed with Etherdelta. The tokens are locked but when they are released you will be able to trade them there: https://etherdelta.com/#ANGL-ETH


That is indeed great news azmojo! We now have our first exchange where people can begin trading (if they wish to) immediately after the ICO is over! Wink

We hope to have another exchange listing as well in early January, but https://etherdelta.com/ is a great start!  Smiley



1) Is this token basically a fee to join your club? And if it is, is there any interest to keep high the value of token?
I mean, fees are appealing when they are low, not high, and this could be a huge problem for the future appreciation of the token.


No.

It is nothing like paying for a "club membership".


When you pay for a club membership fee the money goes to club owners. When you invest in the Angel Token ICO we do not take those funds for ourselves.

Your investment does not go to us, (not even 8%, but in case someone is confused about that please ask!), it goes into the Angel Token portfolio to be used for investments.

You can think of Angel Token more as an aggressive and high-risk hedge fund, but with one major difference. We do not act like most funds do, as passive investors. Rather we act more like a "crypto incubator".

We are "angel investors", (hence the name Angel Token), in small to medium-cap altcoins.

However, what you are thinking of is indeed one of the core benefits of being an Angel Token investor, assuming you hold more than 10,000 tokens in your wallet.

You become a member of the Angel Token Private Investment Community, which is where we discuss research and potential investments with all of our stakeholders. Being part of the Angel Token Private Investment Community is a benefit because it allows you to have an active role and even potentially influence the investment decisions that Angel Token makes.

We welcome all members of the Private Investment Community to bring forward any investment proposals that they have, and share their research with all of us. We can then openly discuss this research, as well as the investment research brought forward by our own research team, and then we can vote as a community on the most interesting investment opportunities.

Despite that we are only few days into this ICO we have already had two investment proposal from Angel Token investors of projects/altcoins they think we should consider. One of them we consider very serious and interesting. The other one we haven't yet has a chance to look at closely. We will present these opportunities, as well as our own investment research and suggestions to the community after the ICO is over.

In short.

When you pay a fee to join a club, the club keeps your money.

When you invest in the Angel Token ICO your money goes into an investment fund that makes altcoin investments that benefits ALL Angel Token holders.

I suggest that you read the white paper and the previous discussions on this thread to understand better what we do.




2) As you are distributing dividends, can angel token be considered as a security? Big exchanges are not prone to list new tokens if there is that risk.


Considered a security by whom?

There are several countries governments that have made statements to the effect that they may consider some or all tokens as securities, among them United States. We do not allow investors from the United States or these other countries who have made similar statements to take part in the Angel Token ICO, and we specifically block them from even entering the investment part of our website.

Now if you are concerned about us not being listed on certain exchanges for this reason that is a different issue and one we will tackle in due course. However, in principal you are correct that some exchanges may not allow Angel Token to be traded on their exchange for this reason or any other, if they choose not to.

We believe exchanges are moving towards decentralization, but either way, we do not believe Angel Token investors will have any problems finding exchanges to trade their tokens should they wish to come January. In fact, we are already listed on EtherDelta as mentioned above, so you can trade there from Day 1 after the ICO.  Smiley


3) Is there any maximum investment for each investor? Some whales could buy a lot of the tokens with this huge discount and control the token price.


Yes indeed they can.

Whales may buy a lot of the tokens because of the big bonuses we offer to early investors, and we hope they do.  Wink

It is important to remember that there is only 1 million tokens for sale at each bonus level, and we have already passed several of them. We are now at 464% rather than 690% bonus, still very generous, but the longer the whales wait the less their advantage will be...


4) You declare "members agree not to buy large stakes in investments that we are collectively
considering before such an investment has been made, nor reveal such ‘insider
information’  to  any  other  3rd  party. ".  
An agreement based on what? Is it just " I promise..."? Of course everyone will try to buy secretly as soon as possible. Insider trading does still exist in the regulated fields, think about the unregulated ones.
This agreement is going to fail and one of the main purpose of the project is at risk.

I think the idea is simply great but these are my main concerns.

We believe that you are wrong, for several reasons, but even if turns out that you are correct, Angel Token will not fail because of it...

1. Everyone who is a member inside the Angel Token Private Investment Community owns a MINIMUM of 10,000 Angel Tokens. This means that they have already made a reasonably significant investment in Angel Token and it is therefore naturally in their interest that Angel Token succeeds.

That is the main reason for the 10,000 minimum in order to be a member of the private community. That we want everyone's goals to be aligned.


2. One major point you need to understand is that since Angel Token is acting as angel investors we are generally going to acquire our stake in the altcoins we invest in off the exchange market. We will be negotiating directly with the founders, early miners and other large stakeholders in those altcoin communities that we are looking to help and invest in.

You are right that there will likely be speculation and the market will move to some extent in those coins we are negotiating with, and those coins will also go up substantially once we have made a deal with the large stakeholders of that coin. However, this is in everyone's interest, that the price and market cap of those coins we invest in will rise. It benefits all Angel Token holders as the value of the portfolio increases.

There is no question that those who are on the inside of the Angel Token Private Investment Community will have an "unfair advantage" and will be able to buy into coins that we KNOW are going to rise, (because of the many improvements we are going to make to them, and the enhanced marketing efforts and so on), before the rest of the world does, but as long as this is not abused by members we don't think this will cause any significant problems, at least not over the long-term.


3. Members of the Angel Token Private Investment Community will have to agree to the terms and conditions of our community before being allowed in. Those terms and conditions include that they agree to abide by all laws in their jurisdiction as it pertains to insider trading. If they choose to break those laws to make profitable trades with the information they have gained inside the community, then they may be held accountable in their country if anyone finds out who they are. However, since cryptocurrencies and tokens are still largely unregulated in most parts of the world it is up to each member to research what laws apply to them in regards to this.

Being a member of the Angel Token Private Investment Community is not an absolute right, simply because you hold the minimum number of Angel Tokens. If we identify members who are abusing the information they have in a way that it hurts the rest of the community they will simply be blocked from the community. The same goes for disruptive or abusive members, they will be kicked out. David, our Community Investment Manager will be in charge of the community and make sure that people follow and agree to the rules we have, as far as is possible.


4. From our point of view we would obviously be concerned if members abuse their insider information in such a substantial way that it drives the prices so high that it jeopardizes the negotiations we are having with the large stakeholders of that coin, or makes it significantly more expensive for us to acquire the position we want. However, it is important to once again remember here that ALL members have a joint goal in seeing Angel Token investments succeed, because everyone is a token holder with a minimum of 10,000 Angel Tokens.

There are several countermeasures we can take if this would becomes a problem, including simply not revealing our final investments until the negotiations are over and we have secured our position. In this scenario we can likely still conduct most of the research openly, as long as there are several potential coins up for consideration (which is exactly how we see it happening) and then we simply hold back revealing the final choice that we made until the investment has been secured.


5. In those cases where we may need to acquire Angel Token's stake in a coin on the open market we may need to be more careful in exactly how open we are, even inside the private community, but we will review this on a case-by-case basis.


I am not sure I have relieved your concerns, but I have tried to answer your questions as best I can.

This ICO is NOT for everyone. It is high risk and we understand that the anonymity of the team (and investors!) is a concern for some people. However, it is how we have chosen to do this ICO, because we think it is the better way for everyone involved, but if you think it is not for you that is 100% ok!  Smiley No hard feelings, we promise!  Wink
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: November 30, 2017, 09:41:54 PM
Angel Token is a "crypto incubator" for small-cap altcoins, allowing you to CREATE WEALTH as an "Angel Investor", rather than passively wait for your investments to rise.

Together we invest in overlooked and undervalued cryptocurrencies.

Our skilled team improves their functionality, visibility and marketing.

With our innovative GUARANTEED INVESTOR REFUND built into the thoroughly checked Smart Contract, you are protected from losing more than 20% until March 7th '18. If you are not happy with our performance you can get your investment back.

How much would you pay to be part of a private community like this?

It only costs 1.41 ETH to be inside the Angel Token investment community at the current bonus level!  Cheesy

52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: November 30, 2017, 02:05:34 PM
ONLY 10 ETH LEFT BEFORE THE BONUS DROPS!

Get you spot inside the Angel Token Private Investment Community, it will likely never be cheaper than today! Here where we will work together to create value and profits by reviving small-cap coins that have the potential to be a "sleeping giant", and create long-term profits in a healthy and sustainable way.

At the current bonus level, the investment is only 1.31 ETH to get 10,000 Angel Tokens, which will give you an invitation to the private community and quarterly dividends.



Remember, Angel Token is the first refundable ICO so you have a HUGE potential upside potential combined with almost nothing to lose!

The Angel Token smart contract has been created and audited by TOP developers.

The system is solid and thoroughly tested, (view full audit on this thread).


We have over 300 investors already on board in the first 3 days, and we would like to welcome you into our community as well!  Smiley

53  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: November 30, 2017, 01:17:12 AM
WE ARE PROUD TO (FINALLY) ANNOUNCE "THE POSTER OF THE WEEK" FOR WEEK 1 OF THE ANGEL TOKEN CAMPAIGN WHO WINS $150!

The winner is Paolo099 and although he is only a MEMBER he is not only an insightful poster, but he also cares about this forum and understand its value. If everyone treated this forum the way Paolo099 does it would be much easier to both learn and earn here!

Great job Paolo099 and congrats! Smiley

Paolo099 wins the $150 "Poster Of The Week" prize because of the following 3 posts:

1. WHY BITCOINTALK.ORG IS THE BEST CRYPTO FORUM IN THE WORLD:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2380112.msg24793880#msg24793880

2. WHEN YOU SHOULD SELL YOUR BITCOIN:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2401182.msg24669949#msg24669949

3. AND OF COURSE A LITTLE SHOUTOUT FOR ANGEL TOKEN. Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2421948.msg24788967#msg24788967


THE $50 PRIZE FOR 2ND BEST POSTER FROM THE 1ST WEEK GOES TO DARKANGEL6415!

Darkangel6415 wins for this insightful post about why Bitcoin mining is prohibited in Venezuela and one reason Chinese miners may have an unfair advantage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2424124.msg24808484#msg24808484

Of course, this little shoutout in the Angel Token thread is also always nice to see! Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385917.msg24682097#msg24682097

Congratulations to both winners!

REMEMBER THAT ANYONE CAN WIN THIS PRIZE SO KEEP YOUR POST QUALITY SUPER HIGH FOR A CHANCE TO AN EXTRA $150!  Smiley

whaaat? is this the real life? Cheesy
Thanks to the campaign manager for the amazing hard work they are doing, i appreciate their fast communication, they are dealing with lots of posters in a great way! Wasn't aiming to the grand price, i just post what i really think about this world and looks like it's paying Smiley

Thanks again for the consideration/kind words and of course, congratulation to DARKANGEL6415 too!
Kepp it up folks, i owe you one!

YOUR $150 1st PRIZE IS ON ITS WAY, CONGRATS!  Wink


(Please post to confirm when you have received your prize money)


Thank you so much,  i will post on here when payment and $50 prize is received. So everyone can see it post.

YOUR $50 2nd PRIZE IS ON ITS WAY, CONGRATS!  Wink

(Please post to confirm when you have received your prize money)
54  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: November 30, 2017, 01:08:25 AM
Hi, Devs just a quick question. I'm sure I posted 30 posts for this week if you check my recent posts on November 22, 2017, at 5 am to November 26, at 5 am. I posted 30 posts and in the spreadsheet, there are only 27 posts? Did I miss something? or was there any issue in with my posts?. I would like to have a review of my posts, my member # is 327 Thank you and have a good day.

I will ask one of the team members to review your posts in the next 48 hours, but normally you would have a comment in the comment field on the spreadsheet if we have discounted more than 1 or 2 of your posts. We occasionally do discount posts if some of your post are very short or low quality posts, or if you posts in categories that are not accepted in the campaign, (please read our rules carefully before complaining!) We prefer this to kicking someone out of the campaign for the odd poor quality post when the overall quality is ok.

This means that people like I placed in the maybe list we don't have any other opportunity to join this last week of campaingn?

Yes, that is correct TheWalkingCoin. Unless we decide to extend the campaign before Sunday it will end then and you will not have an opportunity to join.

We are very very close to launching another type of campaign though, so do not give up hope if you wanted to work with us, just remember that we reward QUALITY over QUANTITY if you join another campaign with us!   Smiley

sorry i will not join this signature now!
10 days past i am also in the maybe list!
all my hard works are in vain, I am so disappoint about your project!

Do not be disappointed with us, be disappointed with yourself. Until you start taking personal responsibility for your actions life will continue to be a struggle!

1. We have not promised you a place in our campaign.

And

2.We have kept every word to everyone involved in this campaign!


The only reason that you are not involved in this campaign is because you have not provided the kind of quality posts that for example paolo099 does in his posts.


Provide more value in the future and I am sure that every signature campaign will want to work with you, (I write all the above without actually having reviewed your posts right at this moment, but at some point during your application for this campaign one of our team members have done just that and determined that the quality was just not good enough!)


55  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: November 29, 2017, 10:50:30 PM
Grin Grin Grin UPDATE WITH GOOD NEWS - PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN SENT TO EVERYONE FOR WEEK 2 Grin Grin  Grin

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY:

1. POSTS ARE COUNTED UP UNTIL SUNDAY NIGHT AT 23:59:59 (FORUM TIME) FOR THAT WEEK

2. YOU ARE PAID ON WEDNESDAY FOR THE POSTS THAT YOU MADE UP UNTIL SUNDAY EVENING THE WEEK BEFORE

3. IF YOU HAD LESS THAN 20 YOUR POSTS WILL "ROLL OVER" TO THE NEXT WEEK, SO THEY ARE NOT "LOST". YOU STILL GET PAID FOR THEM, JUST A WEEK LATER.

4. WE TAKE MONDAY AND TUESDAY TO CHECK ALL THE POSTS, AND THEN WE PAY ON WEDNESDAY.

5. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, SO TODAY YOU GET PAID (AGAIN!)!  Wink





HERE ARE TWO IMPORTANT LINKS:


1. http://bit.ly/angelsignature - This is where you check that you are in good standing in the campaign and how much you will get paid for in any one week etc. Please note all the sheets linked at the bottom! However, please note that this spreadsheet may be slightly out of date until tomorrow afternoon (Thursday Nov 30th) as some updates are lagging.

2. http://bit.ly/angelpayments - This is a list of every signature campaign member that has now been paid for the previous week, together with transaction link and proof to check your payment. Please make sure that you have selected WEEK 2 from the bottom of the spreadsheets!

IMPORTANT:

This week we did all payments as "bulk payments" meaning that we save on transaction fees and administration. Therefore there are only 3 transaction IDs covering all payments this week. If your payments hasn't arrived then you will need to look through these TX Ids and find your payment in there:

https://blockchain.info/address/1KPWHy9WiVvZRcovRPqSfwVUYSGznQ1vP2


https://blockchain.info/address/14kSez9PRSz3o6zf6Uuv35zFcBzAcehSnT

https://blockchain.info/address/1K46VfQYSCpQn4wKkDEiXKbAmX3hbbcWtL


IF YOU CAREFULLY CHECKED THE TRANSACTIONS (AND YOUR WALLET!) AND YOU HAVEN'T YET BEEN PAID BUT THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AND YOUR NAME IS MARKED IN GREEN IN THE "ANGEL SIGNATURE" SPREADSHEET ABOVE (1) THEN JUST CONTACT AngelSupport https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1163030 AND LET US KNOW, AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.

DON'T PANIC! Wink


IF YOUR NAME IS IN PURPLE/PINK IN THE MAIN SPREADSHEET THAT MEANS THAT YOU DIDN'T REACH THE MINIMUM 20 POSTS BEFORE SUNDAY LAST WEEK AND YOU WILL GET PAID NEXT WEDNESDAY INSTEAD (ASSUMING YOU KEEP POSTING WITH OUR SIGNATURE BANNER).


WE WILL PAY THE TWO LUCKY WINNERS OF OUR "POST OF THE WEEK CAMPAIGN" (Paolo099 and DarkAngel6415), LATER TONIGHT SEPARATELY...$15O AND $50 COMING TO YOU TWO GOOD POSTERS!  Grin Grin


WE HAVE NOW MORE OR LESS CLOSED THE SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN FOR NEW APPLICANTS AND THIS MAY BE THE LAST WEEK WE ARE RUNNING IT. HOWEVER, REMEMBER THAT THIS WEEK RUNS UNTIL SUNDAY AT MIDNIGHT FORUM TIME, SO YOU WILL NEED TO WEAR YOUR SIGNATURE UNTIL THEN AT LEAST TO GET PAID! WE MAY ALSO DECIDE TO PROLONG IT TWO MORE WEEKS, BUT WE HAVEN'T YET DECIDED.
  

For more detailed info about the campaign, read the first post on page 1.
56  Economy / Services / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO][Signature] 🔥💥 Angel Token ICO 🔥💥 up to $150/week in BTC on: November 29, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
WE ARE PROUD TO (FINALLY) ANNOUNCE "THE POSTER OF THE WEEK" FOR WEEK 1 OF THE ANGEL TOKEN CAMPAIGN WHO WINS $150!

The winner is Paolo099 and although he is only a MEMBER he is not only an insightful poster, but he also cares about this forum and understand its value. If everyone treated this forum the way Paolo099 does it would be much easier to both learn and earn here!

Great job Paolo099 and congrats! Smiley

Paolo099 wins the $150 "Poster Of The Week" prize because of the following 3 posts:

1. WHY BITCOINTALK.ORG IS THE BEST CRYPTO FORUM IN THE WORLD:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2380112.msg24793880#msg24793880

2. WHEN YOU SHOULD SELL YOUR BITCOIN:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2401182.msg24669949#msg24669949

3. AND OF COURSE A LITTLE SHOUTOUT FOR ANGEL TOKEN. Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2421948.msg24788967#msg24788967


THE $50 PRIZE FOR 2ND BEST POSTER FROM THE 1ST WEEK GOES TO DARKANGEL6415!

Darkangel6415 wins for this insightful post about why Bitcoin mining is prohibited in Venezuela and one reason Chinese miners may have an unfair advantage:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2424124.msg24808484#msg24808484

Of course, this little shoutout in the Angel Token thread is also always nice to see! Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385917.msg24682097#msg24682097

Congratulations to both winners!

REMEMBER THAT ANYONE CAN WIN THIS PRIZE SO KEEP YOUR POST QUALITY SUPER HIGH FOR A CHANCE TO AN EXTRA $150!  Smiley
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: November 28, 2017, 03:09:56 PM
WOW WHAT AN AWESOME FIRST 24 HOURS! Smiley

Thank you soo much to the whole community for all your support during the first 24 hours of our ICO launch!

We didn't know what to expect but to have more than 300 investors come in and support the ICO with their investments, and believe in us, feels really great for everyone on the Angel Token team! And the fantastic support we have had on Slack is really overwhelming, people helping each other out and answering questions, it's just awesome to see! Smiley

You can all rest assured that we won't let you guys down, 2018 is going to be a good year for all of us! Wink


A shoutout to a couple of members. They may be newbies here on Bitcointalk but its clear they understand crypto, and they have really stood out in helping people on Slack and here: TheEvilJokerd and GoldenOrder, and Raist you have been great as well! Thanks to all of you from all of us on the team! Smiley




We will work very hard to get the word out the rest of the crypto community, and any help we can get in promoting the ICO over the coming 19-20 days is much appreciated!
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: November 27, 2017, 04:16:08 PM
Hi,
I am very interested to invest in this ICO and i think it is going to be a successful one.
I would like to know if the smart contracts to lock and unlock the funds for the dividend are already coded.
Because it can be very risky to lock our funds and not be able to unlock them.

Yes the smart contract is advanced, but has been worked on since June, and it has been extensively tested over the last several weeks. It has recently gone through a final extensive bug hunt and audit process where some great suggestions were made that led to a few small further improvements.

The contract is live on the Ethereum network, (you can find the address at the top of our website here: https://angelinvestors.io/) and we have had over 100 investors using it in the last 3 hours or so and everything is working like clockwork.  Smiley

So do not let worries about the smart contract delay your investments, because the bonus keeps dropping while you wait...

The bonus has already dropped from 690% to 558% in 3 hours, and the more investors join in the more it drops.


Here below is a post with more information about the bug hunt and smart contract audit that was done by an independent 3rd party.



***BREAKING NEWS - ANGEL TOKEN OFFICIAL CODE AUDIT FINISHED***

As promised, we are publishing this prior to the Angel Token ICO going live in less than 38 hours from now.


We have now concluded both our official bug hunt and the official code audit and review of the Angel Token Ethereum Smart Contract.

We have posted a letter signed by the official auditor, Anthony Akentiev, that you can read as a PDF document here: http://angelinvestors.io/code-review





As you are probably aware, our smart contract code is open source and available for anyone to publicly view at our GitHub account: https://github.com/bitcoinfriends/angel-contracts

It was coded by one of the top solidity developers in the world, who just happens to be on our team.  Wink

Now it has also been tested hard in every way by a number of skilled programmers and Solidity developers who have tried to hack our smart contract in every way possible. This did expose a few relatively minor issues with the code that could be improved, and this has now been done.

Thereafter the code had been audited and thoroughly reviewed by Anthony Akentiev, a highly skilled independent 3rd party Russian Solidity developer who is in no way attached to us or our team.

At our request he has digitally signed the above letter (with his encrypted key) where he confirms that in his professional opinion investor funds are safe and secure.

Our smart contract has now been deployed on the Ethereum Network and is ready for launch on "Cyber Monday" November 27th at 12:00 GMT (Midday UK Time).

We look forward to having you on board as an investor in less than 2 days time! Smiley



59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: November 27, 2017, 01:56:45 PM
Just wondering if the private investors community is going to be established after the ICO ends in 3 weeks from now or during the next days?.

First of all I want to say a BIG thank you to you GoldenOrder!  Smiley


I see you helping out everywhere and it is really appreciated!

We will not open the private investment community until the ICO is over, as some investors will come in at the end.

Hopefully a few days before the Christmas Holidays start the investors community should be up and running.  Smiley
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥💥 Angel Token 🔥💥 Refundable Altcoin Investment Fund - 690% Bonus on: November 27, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
WHAT A GREAT LAUNCH GUYS!  Smiley

- Great interest and a really nice atmosphere in the Slack community leading up to the launch

- A slight 40 second delay with the website updating on the CDNs but after that it worked well

-  The smart contract that had been so thoroughly tested worked like clockwork! Great to see!

- Sold out our first 1 million tokens in less than 3 minutes and raised the first $100,000 in less than 45 minutes

BASICALLY JUST A FANTASTIC START AND A GREAT COMMUNITY FORMING ALREADY!  Smiley


IT IS NOT TOO LATE TO GET IN - WE ARE STILL AT AN AMAZING 558% BONUS LEVEL SO GET IN AS SOON AS YOU CAN

JUST GO TO: https://angelinvestors.io/ AND SEND ETHER FROM YOUR PERSONAL ETHEREUM WALLET THAT YOU CONTROL THE KEYS TO (we recommend myetherwallet.com) AND YOUR TOKENS WILL BE MINTED FOR YOUR AUTOMATICALLY AND INSTANTLY!


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