@generalizethis
agree to disagree.
So you don't think developers should offer proof they can deliver on their promises? Sorry, I meant on the grammar lesson haha. The developers should offer proof only through open source release of the technology. I believe Monero should have done the same before collecting millions of dollars for Kovri. Kovri is open source and existed before Monero. So you agree that spectre should provide proof they solved anonymous staking? Also, so you disagree that we should use common usage as the deciding factor on how we interpret words? I'm just discussing day-to-day usage and disregarding special circumstances such as an academic or poet coining a new term or a new use for existing terms. Yes, but Kovri is not actually implemented. I am not having the grammar argument. I am not arguing that my BA and Law Degree weren't my worst investment either. You can have the grammar argument title too. I still have my massive bag of both Monero and Spectre. One of which has fast transactions, stakes out a nice pay daily and doesn't have even a fraction of the fee. If you don't want to argue word usage that's fine, but don't write, "agree to disagree" and expect me to disregard an inane argument. Just wanted clarification that that was the argument you were standing your ground at. As far as Kovri goes, the code is being developed on GitHub, so anyone can peruse it and look to see if it is as it should be. Funding work before there is a finished product is common and no one funding the work was under any impression that that wasn't the case. Nice side stepping, but let's repeat the question, and just "yes" or "no." No side stepping or getting frustrated with how language works or trying to focus attention on a project outside the scope of this thread. Do you think spectre coin should make available how they plan to make anonyous staking work? My point in all of this has been that usually when a project fails at providing proof, it's because it is vaporware and there is no proof. If you want to invest on hope, that's fine--but don't pretend it's reasonable for others to do the same. No, because nothing matters until it has been released and is running. Like I said, its backed merely through the world of development. But based on those facts, don't tell me that Monero has a superior approach by introducing Kovri without releasing wallet implementation. "No..." so you're a moron--that's all i was trying to figure out TX and IP data are two different things so what difference does it make to someone where using Monero is legal as to whether kovri is implemented at all? Monero works as advertised--it hides TX data. Hiding IP data on;ly matters if you are living inside a country where using that particular crypto is illegal. I just want to know how anonymous staking is achieved, shouldn't be that big a deal. Say you don't know and go about your day. Not sure why we have to circle around it and pretend that it doesn't matter or use faulty compaison that disregard how cryptocurrencies achieve anonymity. Well, you can't spell Monero without m-o-r-o-n either.  |
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@generalizethis
agree to disagree.
So you don't think developers should offer proof they can deliver on their promises? Sorry, I meant on the grammar lesson haha. The developers should offer proof only through open source release of the technology. I believe Monero should have done the same before collecting millions of dollars for Kovri. Kovri is open source and existed before Monero. So you agree that spectre should provide proof they solved anonymous staking? Also, so you disagree that we should use common usage as the deciding factor on how we interpret words? I'm just discussing day-to-day usage and disregarding special circumstances such as an academic or poet coining a new term or a new use for existing terms. Yes, but Kovri is not actually implemented. I am not having the grammar argument. I am not arguing that my BA and Law Degree weren't my worst investment either. You can have the grammar argument title too. I still have my massive bag of both Monero and Spectre. One of which has fast transactions, stakes out a nice pay daily and doesn't have even a fraction of the fee. If you don't want to argue word usage that's fine, but don't write, "agree to disagree" and expect me to disregard an inane argument. Just wanted clarification that that was the argument you were standing your ground at. As far as Kovri goes, the code is being developed on GitHub, so anyone can peruse it and look to see if it is as it should be. Funding work before there is a finished product is common and no one funding the work was under any impression that that wasn't the case. Nice side stepping, but let's repeat the question, and just "yes" or "no." No side stepping or getting frustrated with how language works or trying to focus attention on a project outside the scope of this thread. Do you think spectre coin should make available how they plan to make anonyous staking work? My point in all of this has been that usually when a project fails at providing proof, it's because it is vaporware and there is no proof. If you want to invest on hope, that's fine--but don't pretend it's reasonable for others to do the same. No, because nothing matters until it has been released and is running. Like I said, its backed merely through the world of development. But based on those facts, don't tell me that Monero has a superior approach by introducing Kovri without releasing wallet implementation. |
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I am very new to cryptocurrency. So which of these awesome altcoins should I invest my money with?
You've already invested all your money into deep onion, thats why you made this thread, to get up your post count so you can claim your free Onions. |
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@generalizethis
agree to disagree.
So you don't think developers should offer proof they can deliver on their promises? Sorry, I meant on the grammar lesson haha. The developers should offer proof only through open source release of the technology. I believe Monero should have done the same before collecting millions of dollars for Kovri. Kovri is open source and existed before Monero. So you agree that spectre should provide proof they solved anonymous staking? Also, so you disagree that we should use common usage as the deciding factor on how we interpret words? I'm just discussing day-to-day usage and disregarding special circumstances such as an academic or poet coining a new term or a new use for existing terms. Yes, but Kovri is not actually implemented. I am not having the grammar argument. I am not arguing that my BA and Law Degree weren't my worst investment either. You can have the grammar argument title too. I still have my massive bag of both Monero and Spectre. One of which has fast transactions, stakes out a nice pay daily and doesn't have even a fraction of the fee. Even here in Venezuela, Mining is hard to remain anonymous even with free electricity. |
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@generalizethis
agree to disagree.
So you don't think developers should offer proof they can deliver on their promises? Sorry, I meant on the grammar lesson haha. The developers should offer proof only through open source release of the technology. I believe Monero should have done the same before collecting millions of dollars for Kovri. I am in favour of both. If you read my thread. |
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@generalizethis
agree to disagree.
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Privacy is one pf the hardest things to achieve in computer security, so I'm amazed at how many claim it. Xspec needs to explain how they are going to achieve anonymous staking or be one more coin in a long line of vaporware.
I agree with above and at the moment I am not happy with available solutions. There isn't a single coin which is hitting all my sweet spots. That being said I believe that 2018 will be the year for privacy coins so I am expecting that new projects will emerge and existing ones will improve on their tech. This will be very competitive field inside crypto. Whatever proof he has can be posted here. This shouldn't require people going to slack to talk to a dev. And I suggest no one do this as they will likely try to talk around the issue with buzzwords. And frankly, the fact that you can't explain it yourself makes me think you do not understand how it's achieved, which means you are pimping based on the hopeful presumption that it will work. Be chimerical on your own dime. Those are only assumptions. Such a statement goes completely against your logic of facts over FUD. You have also generalized this based on your experiences perhaps. If I could tell you how this would be achieved, would you even understand? Look at a Spectrecoin chart and look at my post history, you'll find I've been very chimerical for this whole forum by only enforcing this currency. https://icostats.com/roi-since-icoShow me the code or stfu. A white paper or code would suffice as facts, absent that you are selling hopium. See how efficient I am? Also, you should look up chimerical. It means vainly or fantastically hopeful, so saying, "you'll find I've been very chimerical for this whole forum by only enforcing this currency." isn't a good thing and goes to my point. Depends on how you interpret it. I won't argue with that efficiency, but keep in mind Spectrecoin is more than hopium having been the only cryptocurrency with OBFS4. The 'Ghostpaper' is being released subsequent to the Q2 2018 release of stealth staking. This is merely a word backed my nothing other than your own interpretation of those behind it. |
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Yeah its a scam they get millions of spectre coins for spamming bitcointalk
buy 808 coin instead you will probably *50 your money LOL
NO one is being funded for bitcointalk posts whatsoever. This is strictly grassroots marketing based on an enthusiastic community. Yes, the community believes this much in this currency. There are ~21 million Spectrecoins in circulation at ~$4, if people were getting paid 'millions' of Spectrecoins to 'Spam' than a small group of enthusiasts would be millionaires turning a much better profit than '808 coin' by writing on this forum. And thank you for the worst investment advice of 2018. I could travel the world now for a year, buy a porsche, lambo... or even a nice house by the beach... and i only started a few months ago with almost nothing. Thats because I buy cheap and sell high. Verge. Tron. And others. YOU shill the spectre scam and spam these boards all day.... But there is so many people in spectrecoin who bought it for 1 cent who will cash out before you can ever make a $. So yes 808 is the better investment because its still at just $1m market cap. Will it go to 1 billion ? 2 billion ? explode like verge ? for *1000 profits ? Probably not. But its still the better investment than spectre because if a coin gets SPAMMED TO DEATH on bitcointalk everyone knows to stay away. Another unbacked scam accusation fuelled by a rage of insecurity. I also see you just made a thread accusing Ethereum as a 'scam' based on your 'logic' that it was a 'get rich quick scheme'  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2759202.0Where do you people come from? |
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Ive invested so much in spectre lol. It is quite cheap now.
However, there is zero marketing, if they don't move more into it, it will not move
They need to get rid of the get-rich-fast-spammers... This people actually ruin the currencies' reputation. Look at a chart, it took a year until we could get investors. Its most certainly not a get rich quick scheme. Its a genuine innovation in privacy focused cryptocurrencies: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659097.msg27108855#msg27108855 |
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Yeah its a scam they get millions of spectre coins for spamming bitcointalk
buy 808 coin instead you will probably *50 your money LOL
NO one is being funded for bitcointalk posts whatsoever. This is strictly grassroots marketing based on an enthusiastic community. Yes, the community believes this much in this currency. There are ~21 million Spectrecoins in circulation at ~$4, if people were getting paid 'millions' of Spectrecoins to 'Spam' than a small group of enthusiasts would be millionaires turning a much better profit than '808 coin' by writing on this forum. And thank you for the worst investment advice of 2018. |
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Privacy is one pf the hardest things to achieve in computer security, so I'm amazed at how many claim it. Xspec needs to explain how they are going to achieve anonymous staking or be one more coin in a long line of vaporware.
I agree with above and at the moment I am not happy with available solutions. There isn't a single coin which is hitting all my sweet spots. That being said I believe that 2018 will be the year for privacy coins so I am expecting that new projects will emerge and existing ones will improve on their tech. This will be very competitive field inside crypto. Whatever proof he has can be posted here. This shouldn't require people going to slack to talk to a dev. And I suggest no one do this as they will likely try to talk around the issue with buzzwords. And frankly, the fact that you can't explain it yourself makes me think you do not understand how it's achieved, which means you are pimping based on the hopeful presumption that it will work. Be chimerical on your own dime. Those are only assumptions. Such a statement goes completely against your logic of facts over FUD. You have also generalized this based on your experiences perhaps. If I could tell you how this would be achieved, would you even understand? Look at a Spectrecoin chart and look at my post history, you'll find I've been very chimerical for this whole forum by only enforcing this currency. https://icostats.com/roi-since-ico |
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Monero is king as it's now, but Spectrecoin might be the future in the privacy coins area.
Privacy is one pf the hardest things to achieve in computer security, so I'm amazed at how many claim it. Xspec needs to explain how they are going to achieve anonymous staking or be one more coin in a long line of vaporware. I answered this question you had previously in the 'scam accusation' thread for Spectrecoin and requested that you come into the slack channel and speak with @jbg regarding this brilliant innovation regarding default stealth addresses for staking. @Trofo while you agree with the above poster. You have read my thread regarding the introduction of stealth staking because you posted in my thread (linked above), and are therefore well aware of the development in progress. In this thread you claim you are not investing in Spectrecoin because of the 'aggressive marketing.' |
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The coin is NOT private currently. Claiming it's currently private is absolutely ABSURD. This coin will fail. The people trying to pump this in broken English are trying to make a quick dollar. Someone put 20 dollars in, trying to scam people to make it more. - Public Blockchain VISIBLE
- Public Amounts VISIBLE
- Has a RICH LIST
- Outdated Tech (doesn't even have privacy features of coins in 2015
- People in broken english are trying to pump this coin
When the day comes that it reaches the privacy features of what other coins basically had in 2015 (3 years ago), then you can talk price. In the mean time, add this to the list of other SHIT and SCAM coins trying to makea quick dollar. Current = 1.44 1 month = 1.20 3 month = .90 6 month = .30 1 year = .01 @KimJungUn I completely disregard western biased media regarding any political, economical or social events set forth in the East. Given Spectrecoin is the only cryptocurrency to make an attempt to bypass global surveillance, I would think you would be in favour of this currency seeing as you are allegedly bypassing your nations internet restrictions restrictions even posting on this forum if you are in Pyongyang as your profile states. By your posts you are a Monero Supporter. North Korea has one of the worst electricity supplies in the world, with almost regular blackouts, I do not know how mining Monero would be in your favour as your post history you are a Monero supporter. Having been back and fourth to Venezuela, one of the only countries in the world where electricity is pretty much free, any surplus of electricity consumption out of the norm is flagged by the state and miners are now being arrested for such activity. I don't see how POW coins can be anonymous in their production as where Spectrecoin staking is. Your arguments regarding the richlist stands only if you are only referring to the public addresses, but there is choice in the matter as we also have stealth addresses which cannot be traced on the blockchain. These stealth addresses you will not find on the richest. Furthermore, these stealth addresses are to soon be the default staking addresses. This feature was listed on our website: spectreproject.io and in my recent thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659097.msg27108855#msg27108855We are doing the best we can as a community to educate the public on Spectrecoin. When people like yourself try to manipulate facts through incorrect logic, you are no better than the global media presenting fake news. This is why many countries such as North Korea sensor there news from that of the west and vice versa. You have 7 days for Spectrecoin to drop a near 75% in value to meet your prediction. Lets keep this thread going and hopefully may the best investors interpret the best advisors. |
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The guy deleted all valid counter arguments I had against him too. That thread was created directly after 'cryptohunter' and I had an argument on a different thread. It seemed that fuelled his anger to create that thread and mute my voice. This is shown when you look in his post history along with numerous unbacked 'scam' accusations. He is (or was at the time) also a wide supporter of PIVX (as you can see in his post history), which is in no doubt a Cryptocurrency obsolete in technology when compared to Spectrecoin. Also in his post history you see him mention Shadowcash, a whole community, (now dead) against the birth of Spectrecoin. Its unfortunate that this information is still published on the internet, and may appear upon a quick google search of Spectrecoin. In reality, Spectrecoin has come 10x in Value since that thread and you will find all these points have been ruled false. |
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Expect a lot of sad pandas if you think this will keep up.
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is Spectrecoin a POS coin ? If the algo is POS then I will buy some fore sure. I have always like the stakes coins because you can increase your profit just by staking the coin but sure , you might just want to keep the coins at least 1 year to get that some extra coins.
Yes, Spectrecoin is a POS coin, and soon to be an Untraceable POS coin. I have been staking for a long time and it has very much paid off. Certainly worth buying at this price. 5% inflation is the POS reward, but seeing as much less than half the coins in supply are staking, it is closer to 15%. |
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Exercise will make you a more relaxed person.
Better diet will parallel this.
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Go to slack spectrecoin.io and read devs. They are very active. New wallet release soon and the price this year will be go to the moon!
When is soon? Can we decide on a date? Do you see the amount of shit that XVG got for not following dates. XSPEC is in the same category if they cannot get it out by the date they promised. At the very least they should inform investors that they are running late. We are talking about 100 million dollars that ppl have put in this so called project. So there is a lot of money at stake here. XSPEC fanboys who shill for this coin - Give us an update!! Fair enough, but 1.3.4 has been released to beta testers, a bug was found, the bug is being fixed. Should be anytime soon. Also, as development stated: Verge and Spectrecoin are not very similar. Verge uses I2P, but with Tor it doesn't use hidden addresses like spectre coin does, so with verge the traffic goes unencrypted over a Tor exit node revealing it to strangers and giving them a chance to block your communications if they want to. Additionally verge doesn't conceal transactions on the blockchain. Verges blockchain is completely public. This is a lie on their website where they say: "transactions are completely untraceable" Spectrecoin has ring signature implementation that makes your transactions actually untraceable. Having said this, we really cannot compare the two currencies. Especially as I mentioned in my post above linked to my thread about untraceable staking whereas Verge and Monero are POW coins. |
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