@wwzsocki The thread I pointed out was a dedicated thread for reporting Plagiarisms. I don't really see any problem if you post it on your own list and use it as reference when you report. I have one of my own after I discuss with mprep what was the best way to report accounts, but I'm not using in anymore since the ban of shitposters is much easier now and it takes only one comment in the report field and no need to have proof. @suchmoon Good find, I'll report some of those too and i'll try get the ANN trashed. @Lafu If you need a list of all the users in a thread, LoyceV is the man, he has the script to list them in no time, so better ask him. If you are looking for a specific keyword I can list all the accounts who used it. In general I can list everything from the search results. |
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These look like farmed accounts - created around the same time, incessantly bumping
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I tried reporting a few times cases like this one but without reaction. Most of the time you are 100% sure that they are alts and it's obvious but you have no solid proof. You have to start digging to find other clues and at the end nothing happens. |
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Doesn't matter what my opinion is, it's theymos you need to ask or persuade. If I was in charge of this then there'd probably be very little spam here coming from signatures. If it was up to me shit campaigns would be banished the moment it was clear they were doing nothing and lower-ranks wouldn't even be allowed to earn here via signatures at all unless they've received a decent amount of merit. If only quality posters got paid and everybody ran their campaigns like Darkstar then we wouldn't be having this issue in the first place. Until it becomes unacceptable to post crap and those that pay for it get punished then nothing will change here.
I just addressed the problem as I see it. I think we should find a solution which is convenient for both sides the admins and the users, and it doesn't require much of theymos's time to be wasted on this. Seems like he is also demotivated from what is going on here and it's seems too bothering to find a proper solution without putting a lot of time in it. So here the community is offering help and support to him and hopefully he will get the notice. I know its difficult to trust all those anonymous users here after a cases like MagicalTux, but that's all we can offer, and I'm sure im not talking only for myself but many like me. |
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Yet another thread on the problem, but here we have to find a solution without pushing theymos to come up with one.Another truth is that discussions help to solve problems,so the more discussions, the better. Let me draw a line first > I want to focus here on the forum community /the active,human part of it/ as the instrument to deal with the problem, there are so many members wishing to help and volunteering already, I have enough proof that we have a great task force here ready to react /thanks to all the participants in the SpamBusters sharing from their own time to report/. The main two sources of SPAM /in the English section at least/ as I see them are > - Signature Bounties
- Ann-bumping-account-farming bots
The key to control the spam from the Bounties is to focus on the Managers. We have discuss this matter many times before, but let us find a solution here once for all. What is missing? Clear rules for the bounty managers, clear punishments for those who do not follow the rules. I'll post this great idea from hilariousetc. If we can develop it more it would be one possible way to control them. As I said earlier I want to focus on ideas where theymos is not so much involved in the development and he can focus on other more importation things, but the working force will be the forum society. I was thinking about the possibility of some sort of default trust team should be assembled to help police shit campaign managers seeing as theymos doesn't really want to do anything about them even though they're the ones responsible for 99% of the spam here. If a problem campaign is spotted then they should be given a warning that they need to do something about the spam. If any campaign has say five or ten users baring their signature that are either making very low quality posts or are banned for copy and pasting then they should get the warning and then negative feedback from everyone on the team until they clean their campaign up. Negative feedback works a lot of the time because they don't want their reputation tarnished when they're trying to make as much money as possible and if they ignore the warning first then feedback should be used as a last resort. Campaigns really shouldn't be allowed to come here and ruin the forum making it unreadable by paying unlimited users to make any old crap they can be bothered doing. When these campaigns accept Junior or even Newbies they are at worse overrun with copy and paste bots or at best one/two line spammers, but that doesn't matter to the campaign because as long as they're making the posts and are being paid in monopoly money they've created out of thin air it then their objective is still met. The longer we let people get away with doing a shoddy job without repercussions then it is only going to get worse.
The bots are the next big thing generating SPAM, and we, the SpamBusters were working mostly on the ANN threads, manually reviewing all the user activities. We had some success in locking some ANN threads and big part of the reported account were banned so I think we made a small impact, yet not enough. Even more people will start reporting after the report badges come to life /which will be quite soon, probably in the next few years/ and then the mods work load will increase. However the bot activity will not be reduced enough as everything is automated there. So let's fight back, they can make bots to spam, we can make bots to check for plagiarism, text-spinners, one-word-shitposter. I'm sure we can do that, it's just to address to the right people. |
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Great analysis, so the conclusion is that the weakest link here are the bounty managers, actually that's where the main forum SPAM problem lays. Uncontrolled and unaware of how to manage a campaign, everyone can be a manager, and some projects don't really care who they hire, as long as they can scam a few ether it's fine.
Let's be honest, those guys need to be controlled like c'mon some of them /a big part tho/ don't even care about the participants and scam all over the place. Just latest example is TokenSuite.
This is not job for everyone, even experienced manager like Atriz can made a mistake as he did, but there were consequences, and what about all the newbies posting in Service "hire me as a bounty manager"
Shall we look for a solution or only excuses?
I know theymos is busy, but that's why we are here to be a community and do those things together as we have enough power.
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Goodmorning and goodluck!!  Hello I'm back. 1 - iasenko |
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Case 1 Full member Plagiarism + Homograph use: The copy/paster : alexey8080BANNEDI don't think that there is a cryptocurrency that is stable because the market is a full volatility and there is no exception to that and that is the reason why i believed that there is no cryptocurrency that is stable and they all undergo to the natural behavior of the market and that is volatility.
ArchiveThe original : I don't think that there is a cryptocurrency that is stable because the market is a full volatility and there is no exception to that and that is the reason why i believed that there is no cryptocurrency that is stable and they all undergo to the natural behavior of the market and that is volatility.
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Case 2Bots using homographs, I'll find the source soon but check the timings in between the posts. Copy-paster: SimonCaBANNEDNice information. Obviously takes a lot of time to put these pieces of news together which shows the team commitment. I see your efforts you apply to the idea. Thank you.
Copy-paster : MauriceBoaBANNEDNice information. Obviously takes a lot of time to put these pieces of news together which shows the team commitment. I see your efforts you apply to the business. Thank you.
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Good morning, let me fill c  c - iasenko. |
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@wwzsocki As I understand, you reserved from page 1 to 33, right?? We are working in a bit different way. LoyceV posts a list of all the accounts posted in the specific thread, and we are reserving account based on that list. So you check the post history over each user on the list and report him if it's a obvious spammer. See the list here., It's announced under each case. Most of the time those shitposters get banned, so our job is to filter the spamers and hand them to the mods. @coinlocket$ Besides the bots there are thousands of human "workers", getting those banned it's a good thing, the evil rating of their IPs is rising with each ban. So I think the time is not wasted. @suchmoon I'll update the OP tomorrow  |
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One more thing to be added to the list with suggestions:
The patrol list should have an option to exclude the ignored boards.
I think someone suggested it some months ago.
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User: wwzsocki
Case: Case 4 KRATOS - Blockchain Solution
From/to: 1/33
Status: Working on
Ok, the OP is updated. You can PM me when you are done so I can update the cases. |
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look a you... thermos lovers lol. just google what I said and see for yourself. of course it isnt "stealing" because it is donation money. But you know what I meant so don't play bs games ...
I understand where you are coming from, you wish the forum to continue and "prosper" thus you avoid reality. but the reality is this forum is going downwards in a steady pace. all to your beloved "Sir Thermos" and his other friend cyrus.
That's bullshit. I completely understand theymos, satoshi made the right choice, I think. Everything comes down to trust, and if you want to stay anonymous you can't trust anyone. When you are famous and mysterious person and in addition holding a few millions in Bitcoin /can be rumours of course/ anonymity is what is keeping you save, and you can have a normal life. That's why I respect him. |
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You need to read his answer here, just follow the link of the quote. ~
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#JOIN I want to join this club. I fulfill all requirements, fight spam and abuse actively on a daily basis. I have to say that I already searched for a group like this. I want to have a place to share knowledge and my findings with likely minded people. I just hate spam and report all the garbage, I find. Here is a screenshot with my reports statistics:  Welcome in Bro Nice to see that more and more people see that we need more Users that keep the eyes open in the Forum for Spam and other things ! Everyone is welcome as long as he is not involved in any of the projects we report, just to avoid abuse. wwzsocki is accepted, read to OP to see how the things are working and if you have any questions just ask. I have some problems opening the forum. |
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Thanks, fixed it |
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Thank you for the answer and explanation.
You said that this account is already banned but when I check on BPIP page link you provided with his account, I see that this member is not banned and was active 11 hours ago.
Are you sure he was banned?
Maybe he was lucky to unban his account, I don't know.
If the account is banned, that doesn't mean that he cannot log-in. He cannot post/PM or merit but he can read (idk if he receive messages, maybe only form the admins) and nothing else.
Back to the OP, let me drop one homograph plagiarism > The original : ~ snip~
Well forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.
The copy: IraladmanGreetings Well, forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.
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could you point me to the original content for the first message or the source from where was copied?
No problem > The original : ~ snip~
Well forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.
The copy: Greetings Well, forum may not be the best solution for publishing news but a lot of people are simply accustomed to forums ... anyway thank you for your efforts and answers here.
BTW,I'll copy this to the Plagiarisms accusation thread. |
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Hi everyone, as you can see I'm a newbie here and I'm still trying to figure out best practices for reading the best topics and feeds.
What is your strategy, if you have any? How do you ensure you get to read the best content posted in the platform?
Thanks in advance!
As you see everyone has a different opinion based on his experience. I was also wondering in the beginning how to find the interesting threads, now we are lucky to have the merit system and you can easily see the recent merited posts or other stats like the top merited threads for the last 120 days(?). Other tactic is to follow some of the good forum members and check their post history. For example browsing trough theymos's post history I find quite interesting topics and discussions, and if you want to be up to date with the current forum situation just check him every day |
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