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4021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: General POS coin question on: March 29, 2016, 08:37:31 PM
Proof of Stake
Ambercoin             Rate of return 7% per year                                            ,Dev AmberCoinDev
BitBean                 Fixed rate of return 1000 per block                                    , Dev TeamBean           
Blackcoin               Rate of return 1% per year                                               ,Dev Rat4
Bottlecaps             Rate of return 200% per year,                                          ,Dev Tranz                        
Diamond                Rate of return 25% per year,                                           , Dev Danbi
HoboNickels           Rate of return 2% every 10 Day,                                       ,Dev Tranz                        [groggin]    
Hyperstake - Up to 750% but its a real pain in the ass to get it. Average 230% right now. Dev is presstab      [billotronic]
INFLUX         ......... don't know the details but impressed with client, newer launch to watch                      [BitCoinNational]
JBS                       max 4 per block                                                             ,Dev jyap
Kobocoin                Rate of return 10% per year,                                           ,Dev TheTribesman
Mintcoin                 Rate of return 10%, drop down to 5% in 2017                    ,Dev Fuzzbawls      
Netcoin                  Rate of return 20% per year,                                          ,???
Noblecoin               Rate of return 8% per year,                                            , Dev EagleFlies                
PhilosopherStone    Rate of return ~50% per year                                          ,No Dev at the moment      
Piggy                   3% per year - 4 hour stake                                              ,Devs Neurocic, Mo Green      [J1mb0]
Reddcoin
Sprouts              
Supercoin              Rate set to drop to 5% per year soon, has Anon feature        ,Dev Griffin            
TALK                     15% - 24HR MIN                                                            ,No stinking dev                  [BitCoinNational][groggin]
Tekcoin                 Rate of return ~20% a month depending on difficulty            ,Dev Noise23      
Vcash/VNL                                                                                                ,JohnConner                      [groggin]
ZEIT                     15% (dropping down to 5% 2017)                                      ,Dev Rent_a_Ray  [kiklo][groggin]

for most all POS stake coins A-Z threads
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994.msg9592844#msg9592844 [Talk]


FYI:
Hybrid POW Algorithms
Diamond : Groestl
HBN       :Scrypt
Tekcoin  :SHA256
Amber    :x11?
influx    :x11?
phs        :Scrypt (done?)
Bottlecaps :Scrypt (done?)            
4022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [UNC] Recent news of uncoin on: March 29, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Sorry for you're losses.
You seem a kind person, but this coin http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/uncoin/
by all account suggest scam or at the least naive and unrealistic project.

Again it is claiming 200x the value of Doge but with more coins than Doge, and little exposure to any legit market.

over $4B in cap
4023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: General POS coin question on: March 29, 2016, 03:09:11 PM
Reddcoin and Hyperstake

Rate of return stages?                                           
Dev names?
4024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto_2.0 /{ data }/ on: March 29, 2016, 02:53:56 PM
XRP ( RIPPLE ) Discussion - All about XRP
XRP ( RIPPLE ) Discussion - All about XRP

What do you think guys about RIPPLE, are they good for long term investment?
And about XRP(BTC) to BTC, how fast and where I can exchange XRP to BTC instantly?

BTC are distributed by math. XRP are distributed by 3 guys at their whim. XRP could still be a good long term investment, but I wouldn't bet on it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=873723.msg9661686#msg9661686

Folks here were given 50k ripples way back when, so maybe feel that suffices as their minimum gamble on ripple, especially with prices higher now than they've been in some time.

Does anyone here though know about ripple private keys? Their IRC channel folk seem to be totally ignorant. A long time ago it apparently used to be that you had to run a ripple daemon of your own if you wanted your private keys to actually stay private. Is that stil the case or do clients now do all their own encryption so the ripple daemons they connect to never see private keys?

It seems ominous that there does not seem to be info anywhere about your private keys and why not to give them to third parties and stuff like that. Does the rippletrade website get your keys? It says nothing about your browser doing all the encryption nor, if it does, how to ensure the javascript it does it with has not been corrupted etc...

Is there even going to be privacy/security, or are they moving to a model where authorities hold your keys so they can reverse your transactions or whatever they want with your money?

-MarkM-


Which IRC channel are you talking about? Anyways, yes, you can of course still run rippled (https://github.com/ripple/rippled) to directly connect to the P2P backend, you can also locally deploy the client that also powers rippletrade.com (https://github.com/ripple/ripple-client) if you don't want to get the JavaScript served from Ripple Labs' servers or you can use ripple-lib to write your own client (or interface directly with rippled or a different API endpoint like RippleREST).

The security model of rippletrade.com is similar to blockchain.info: Your private key gets encrypted locally with a username + password and stored (encrypted) at a third party server (aka. "blobvault"). Source code for all components is available under a free license, in case you are wondering.

You have to trust rippletrade.com to serve you the correct JavaScript (it is ensured that you are actually talking to them via TLS), otherwise you can also host the code locally of course or write your own client.

The crypto is very similar to Bitcoin (same ECDSA curve, but seems like "soon" DJB's ed25519 curve will also be supported for signatures/keys, same base58 encoding primitives for addresses and other user-exposed binary data), so it shouldn't be too hard for you to verify what happens behind the scenes.

Authorities are not holding your keys and (unless you have a very simple user<-->password combo) also can't access them if they get a hold of the blobvault. Even if you own a private key of a third party, you can not reverse transactions (just like in Bitcoin), you can only transfer or trade what you already own, not what you have owned at a certain point in time.

Privacy is a different matter, since Ripple operates on balances, not references to previous transaction outputs it is relatively hard to "launder" money there compared to e.g. CoinJoin. This might chnage in the future, since the next larger feature is going to be Multisign afaik. which would allow several accounts to bundle their payments and thus obscuring individual money flows. In general it is possible to buy XRP anonymously and keep your account off the radar, once you really want to use Ripple itself though and not just play around with XRP, you might have a similarly hard time as with using Bitcoin really anonymous.

Did I procrastinate and miss the bandwagon?  Would it be a mistake to invest at this point or should I jump on it?
All opinions are welcome!  

Would you trust 2-3 people with the distribution of 90% of the XRP? If you have faith that they'll distribute it fairly and generally do the right thing, then by all means, buy it up.

https://www.ripplelabs.com/xrp-distribution/

I would rather trust three individuals who are known than one individual who holds ~1M BTC and is anonymous. Laws and common sense prevent the Ripple founders from dumping their allocated XRP, nothing stops Satoshi (since you have no idea who or what he represents - NSA? African drug lord? etc).

Satoshi owns possibly 7% of all the BTC mined so far and less than 5% of the total. Chris Larsen, Arthur Britto and Jed McCaleb still control (mostly Larsen) control over 90% of XRP. Really poor comparison - nice try though!

I avoid Stellar and XRP.
4025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto_2.0 /{ data }/ on: March 29, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
Asset issue platforms: Bitshares vs NXT
BitShares pros:
- The most scalable in-memory blockchain
- Monetisation of issued assets using custom fees
- Really fast 1.5 sec average conformation no matter what is your tx about
- Smartcoins (bitUSD, bitCNY, bitEUR) allow to build trustless processes with off-line businesses
- Forward thinking community
- Built-in referral program
- Community client is built for in-browser use on steroids (web-sockets + react)
- Network explorer (Cryptofresh.com) will be open-sourced soon
- Fast adoption signals
- Truly decentralized blockchain self-paid development team
- Technological certainty as Bitshares already passed the most hard iterations trying to find minimum lovable product
- DPoS

BitShares cons
- Currently smartcoins have low liquidity
- Currently multisig don't work in clent
- No asset-based voting and account control
- No ability to create assets with locked supply. UIA are always issuer dependent in some sense.

NXT pros:
- Convenient Phasing and Account control allow you to build highly customized processes
- Data Storage, Marketplace

NXT cons:
- No ability to monetize assets through custom fees
- Very slow in comparison with BitShares and slow in comparison with Ethereum
- Stagnating community and network activity
- Development and consensus through BDFL model (with all honour to Jean-Luc)
- Weak improvement process: If you develop custom soft, so get ready for sudden API changes
- Huge uncertainty caused by NXT 2.0
- Naive PoS

Summing up if you need asset with exchange without all bells and whistles of NXT (alias, data storage, marketplace) go BitShares. If ability to build sophisticated asset-based voting processes is crucial for your use case go NXT. Otherwise go BitShares.

If you need really deep custom things go Ethereum (much custom, significantly slower than BitShares but much more faster than NXT)

4026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $GMC will change the ticker to $GAME and azure will add it,are this good news..? on: March 29, 2016, 12:13:06 PM
well that was quick
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gamecredits/
GAME it is
4027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ Bitcoin Community Coin ✪ BϾϾ ✪ on: March 29, 2016, 08:59:32 AM
POS evil
Hope everyone had a nice Easter...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272296.msg13921635#msg13921635
4028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: General POS coin question on: March 29, 2016, 07:58:50 AM
@kiklo

good POS data posted in TALK thread
get an address so I can tip Smiley
4029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ Bitcoin Community Coin ✪ BϾϾ ✪ on: March 29, 2016, 07:54:30 AM
@George on the Do List Wink

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Quote of the Day (more like good POS data)
Proof of Stake
Ambercoin             Rate of return 7% per year                                            ,Dev AmberCoinDev
BitBean                 Fixed rate of return 1000 per block                                    , Dev TeamBean           
Blackcoin               Rate of return 1% per year                                               ,Dev Rat4
Bottlecaps             Rate of return 200% per year,                                          ,Dev Tranz                       
Diamond                Rate of return 25% per year,                                           , Dev Danbi
HoboNickels           Rate of return 2% every 10 Day,                                       ,Dev Tranz       
Kobocoin                Rate of return 10% per year,                                           ,Dev TheTribesman
Mintcoin                 Rate of return 10%, drop down to 5% in 2017                   , Dev Fuzzbawls     
Netcoin                  Rate of return 20% per year,       
Noblecoin               Rate of return 8% per year,                                            , Dev EagleFlies               
PhilosopherStone    Rate of return ~50% per year , No Dev at the moment       
Supercoin              Rate set to drop to 5% per year soon, but has Anon feature  , Dev Griffin            
Tekcoin                 Rate of return ~20% a month depending on difficulty           , Dev Noise23       
ZEIT                     If you have not guessed , My Personal Favorite , 15% Harvest rate dropping down to 5% Harvest rate per year by 2017  , Dev Rent_a_Ray


For Research use CoinMarketcap to see pricing & total supply as some are a few cents with only a million coins and some others only a few satochi but billions of coins.
Plus read their discussion forms, to see the coin's general mood and direction.
You will also want to determine what amount of coins is needed per block to stake as fast as possible to gleam the effect of compound interest.


If you decide on any of them, Here is a link to my bootstrap service to save time syncing with the coin's network.
Kiklo's Bootstrap.dat & Blockchain Snapshot for Proof of Stake Coins

 Cool


@kiklo I will pay 10TALK for any quote of the day I post so PM an address Smiley
4030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TGC][ANN] Relaunch Tigercoin - Official thread on: March 29, 2016, 07:36:37 AM
TQ Steve ... I do think he'll take tiger tips Wink

---------

VOTE
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting
running @ #2
Moin        216
Tiger       197
KLondikes 084

17 days left

4031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] The Epic 420 Alliance Joint Force - United we stand! on: March 29, 2016, 06:54:39 AM
@finger good find

Israeli pot startups already generating a buzz include Syqe Medical, which has developed a metered inhaler to control doses of cannabis and recently announced a $20 million investment from Philip Morris. Eybna isolates and develops cannabis strains tailored to specific ailments.
4032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Btc38 on: March 29, 2016, 12:35:35 AM
they could have been classy and used ANC Cool

dump ltc/btc market too?
4033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ Bitcoin Community Coin ✪ BϾϾ ✪ on: March 29, 2016, 12:29:27 AM
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/btctalkcoin/#charts

chart data from 2014 seen now
for some reason market cap line is off but orange price line is up up up Wink

 
4034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ Bitcoin Community Coin ✪ BϾϾ ✪ on: March 29, 2016, 12:27:49 AM
@George
Free suggestion box (no chance of getting listed)
pay 0.1btc get listed (when they feel like compiling)
pay more get listed ASAP
4035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC! on: March 28, 2016, 11:36:50 PM
BTC38 hacked, is the rumour.  Glad we didn't put UNO there.
Bad news, what's the rumour that they stole?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1416221.msg14346444#msg14346444

BLK dumped hard (now the doors are closed?)

http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?mk_type=cny&btc38_trade_coin_name=blk (that link just pulled up)
4036  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Btc38 on: March 28, 2016, 11:24:45 PM
i sees their web tubes off

Quote
Network Error (tcp_error)

A communication error occurred: "Operation timed out"
The Web Server may be down, too busy, or experiencing other problems preventing it from responding to requests. You may wish to try again at a later time.

For assistance, contact your network support team.

www.btc38.com
服务器状态未知
4037  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $GMC will change the ticker to $GAME and azure will add it,are this good news..? on: March 28, 2016, 11:22:40 PM
GAME is picking up the low hanging fruit
why not ... there where 2-3 coins sporting 'Game' before ... all dust in the wind now ... so GMC is the last 'game' brand left

digiB and Hyper are still surviving in that space too
4038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: March 28, 2016, 11:15:07 PM
remind me how many days ago BTC was trading at $180?
seems to have doubled already Wink
4039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Btc38 on: March 28, 2016, 11:11:44 PM
beyond rumor
got any evidence to present?

'maybe' ... seeing that alot
4040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CCB] CryptoClub ★ ROUND P-20 ★ on: March 28, 2016, 10:18:54 PM
page 42

wondering if CCB and BCC (TALK) could work together?
at the very least stake each others coins  Wink
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