Sad is that current ICOs will be in 95% scams where devs will run away with $$$ i hate that part of crypto but it have to be to learn people lessons. Pain teach people to diversify over time.

Youp from one side DOGE at 350m market cap...
From other side Coinbase is rated as 80m$ company.
to be fair I would swap Doge with ICONOMI to be honest to market.

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to be honest good exchange with commission free setup is great deal for investors.
I am just shocked that they are 1st with such good and useful thing are starting.
maybe commission tokes would be to greedy for me but creat like eg. cryptsy/kraken points were/are

If you bought from exchange and not from ICO,you will get access only when it is open to general public.You will not be considered before ICO holders or with them no matter how many icn you hold
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22BTC in and still no invitation to BETA... damm
I am getting nervous with that ICO and platform.
I want use my Visa now guys but i can not.

My point was sarcasm that BTC hashrate is overrated as metric when you compare coins security.
BTC can not attack any other alg with its hashrate, but what is funny it  threatens BTC camps each other with 51% attacks Segwit/Bigblocks non stop...
Where is that security then ? Don't you see flaws in that system : ) ?

EEA add +70 companies that is the news mate. I have 0.1% ETH vs 99,9% BTC still.
ach they will have lighting network soon wth 100 000tx/s that is maybe reason too.
Where is BTC all we know with scalling.

I think that I am done with you - becouse offending people is not my goal.

You can shout at me louder but that won't make any change that ETH mining is getting more fiat inject than BTC.
Your shouts at me won't change BTC high fees like 1$ (like 50sat/byte 2input/2output) and that transaction has stuck for days.
Your shouts won't convince me that we have over two years any working scaling solution in place.

thisi is math do you really want discuss with math facts?


if you even add that fees it doesn't matter today ETH jump eat those fees in ETH price in ratio today ETH will be higher


Then why BTC miners can not attack it with its hashrate put there 0.1% to wipe/FORK ETH their chain.
Ohw,,, BTC miners cannot do it... so whole hashrate is BS this is illusion mate.


This is in 3x ATH vs BTC right now, even with lowest fees avaible 0.075$ transactons are going in 2mins maks ,
while BTC transactions needs 7$ fee to be used normally.
What is in bubble ? Is BTC still currency or E-gold now only?
BTC and ETH both are in bubble vs that what they bring to table.


2 weeks ago JP mogrgan left aliance with ETH again so not that much bankers coin that it is.
ETH have 50% BTC volume 500m - this not easy to pump mate.
Add to that ETH have 14% iflation.


No i won't becouse Bitcoin maxymalist have to be aware that market is signaling that BTC is not king of investments anymore,
market shows that stagnation vs mutability is much better and is worth extra money.
ETH may fall in price but market will seek innovators not stagnating coins this is true message for us for BTC miners.
Or Bitcoiner will take lesson or will cry some day that they lets others take their place.
Some day pump will be over.

like you see difficulity =/= price
price :
-innovation
-new people
-new uses
-believe that it will rise
difficulty:
- ASICs 10nm> 20mn... and difficulty rise 2x at same power needed to maintain power cost
- BTC diff is following price or  technolgy jump in chips not in another way
- ETH have GPU mining and many small people mine ETH they don't dump ASAP while BTC miners dump ASAP
- Asicboost : )...

Sure that in numbers ETH miners are getting BIG money now comparing to difficulty they dump a lot but same time ETH in price rise and rise.
till it will stop rising same as BTC.

Yes and this is sad that has happened even on probably of false promise .
But market gives BTC miners strong signal "you are doing wrong we will support/looking for alternatives" .
Scaling is great example of BTC weakens , but truly decentralized system will have same issue here.
ach most coins are not decentralized so will make fast solutions.

We will see now we have bubble there is no tractional decisions around. ETH is more catchy  for nobs to hype.
"ETH as BTC2.0"... with minimum fee 0.075.

Market just tells miners better get some solution or market will support more other coin this is true message.
Miners need to decode it. BTC price not collapse but other are rising faster this is another scenario.
Where more money goes to alts it will signal that some alts will be more secure than BTC.

you know that you can slide fee to bottom ? and you will get fee
0.000563528 ETHER ~ 0.075$ blockchain is expensive pice of shit
and ETH will be expensive too.

Trafic jam effect is kicking into effect. China miners were thinking that people will use LTC but...
as i predicted they went to ETH faster/greater volume.
Bitcoin will not die but without HIGH tech solutions like segwit LN BTC will be shadow of cryptocurrency and this is SAD but true. I hate those miners anyway but they are taking now HARD lesson.

I was wondering when it will happen - that was fast. If you make your maths BTC is less profitable to mine than ETH today.

ETH inflation rate ~14%, while BTC inflation is 4%.

Formula is: (Marketcap*inflation)/365

And you will end with ETH 5.2m$ while BTC mine 3.6M$.

In other words more money is coming to ETH than to BTC today. Will BTC give away top position to ETH ?

PS: This is big ring bell to BTC miners I see that they deserved such event but it will be stupid to let it go. Without Segwit BTC will miss most new money soon - I hope greed will woke them up.

man if you are corporation you want control system on which you are working.
I don't see big corporations using ETH becouse they LOVE cut costs and using ETH is cost.
Corporations will create own ETH if they need such and will play with cross chain transactions / interactions.
There is no economical sence to use any others chain than own backed by own stocks.

but man look how capital/hard cash is burned on coins...
Doge last commit on github in 2015... Blackcoin same almost.
Other coins are being pumped without any good reason.

BTC as store of value and 1st deflationary money can be some exception and ETH as some kind platform.
But ETH is not working there is not POS/ there is no solution to blockchain bloat / ICOs are being made but they are not utilizing ETH environment . People need BTC to hedge against their governments in India/Japan printing press is making their jobs. Eth funds ICOs. But rest in real world what they are doing for their value ?

I like NEM but current 2 billion valuation is f. JOKE ....

we are far from dot.com numbers in $$$.
Pets.com got funding in 1998 in 260m$... (current 2 billions if we compare to gold price)
Pets.com and other dot.com-s burned ALL capital in year and went default.
Google was sold for 5m$ on bottom.

http://businessinsider.com.pl/international/one-of-the-kings-of-the-90s-dot-com-bubble-now-faces-20-years-in-prison/xh0xyz9

"Companies worth billions when they IPO'd went to zero. Good companies were dragged down with them: Cisco lost 86% of its market cap. Amazon stock fell from $107 to just $7. "

What is lesson when you spot bubble sell save capital and buy at bottom.
Our current ICOs are smal size dot.com bubbles they have even similar ideas.

hedge funds are looking for market to do PnD silver and gold are to big but crypto is unreguated and easy to move , next thing is that coinbase is reporting that they add 100 000 accouns every week...
I have waited to everything acc on Kraken for month becouse there were busy.
In best intrest for exchange is to give me opportunity to trade ASAP to me .
I will burn more via commission .
I believe many NEW people rushed this time to exchanges to.
There is bubble sure but we have many new people to.

Sure mate that we are in bubble but what I would tell ya.
There was a lot of projects that realy worked on something and was worth not much like NEM (30sat) price hover about 30-100 for year project was undervalued and noone gave really shit about it. Same went to BTC even if you look how many people were working aground BTC price was crashing and crashing all time. Then stopped and started rissing. Is hard to find fair value and say THIS is this price this is fair. Market allwas or overvalue price or undervalue that price.

Sad part is that many people will loose 90% capital in alts and many will loose some in BTC.
From all coins  only BTC is used and ETH for funding ICO.