.... yea pretty much.
So coin at end have ~1% annual inflation
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.... no man, you supposed to wait to make posts like this in 40 mins!
you're playing it wrong!
I go sleep most people are going sleep too so who cares. More money for start more jevels will shine... More invested money = less side deals needed for dev to move forward and it can speed up process IMO. Crypto don't like to slow projects. PS: Hopes for jewels are hight pump price will too.
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see im told you Chinese big investors hehe Man gamers are creazy. Some p2w shitty games on google play are making 1-20m $$$ volume monthly from in game coins. I was shocked when i have red those news while ago. (i have played that game ) I was sometimes wandering how but they do it. Since dev is well known from "their" community dev game can go high. At end this is some kind FRESH idea new comparing to next blockchain smart contracts anon coin. Unique purpose is precious, we have good start: - good dev - original concept - some business model and road map - 1st mover take HIGH risk but they got HIGHESts profits (if have balls to keep coin long) PS: I see Jewels after some makeup and development - making 2m $ market cup easy this is 10x up before they will even use jevels in games.
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.... if you got someone owning more than 5% of a coin, the imbalance is great. This guy own 4x that.
Not always SIR look at stocks people have 20%-40% and when market moves they can dump but they don't do it. Eg. Darkcoin or Dash Dev have mined a lot in 1st days but overtime that not affected price at all if product is good many will jump on ship and bump volume and price. Guy who is investing 60BTC is taking HUGE RISK. His jevels aren't free. You allso can buy 20% of all why not ?
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...ring signatures were created back in 2001. It was wise of the development team of Monero to utilize it in their cryptocoin.
I would also reasonably expect NEM to get to top 5 if it starts to go up again and also considering that Steem continues its fall.
It was not like that 1st coin writen was bytecoin but devs mined/or premined 90% supply then comes XMR with they fresh "more fair" distrybution. XMR just crtl+C Ctrl+V code mostly. But XMR is more distribiuted right now and more popular. Ring signatures are more private than Dash. (But that doesn't mean DASH is on lost possition they can chane allmost everything if they really need) What is good in NEM is that it lives outside crypto REAL companies are working with mijin and tenchnology is evolving into REAL companies needs than our coinmarket cap pump/dump needs ... Anon,smart contracts,decentralized markets,sharing,VPNs and stuff like that. Real aplication use can be really god becouse that requires changes that NEM really needes to be on top. Companies are evolving all time so prabably NEM with their protocol will be the same. It won' be coin where something is setuped once for all time. Very importand for DEVs of Nem in proper monetalize their project to be able live from support of it or from supporting good mijin chain at end of day some solution can be easier ported into NEM. Abut beeing in top 5 there will be much more projects in future that can no. 1 all current 5 can go down while we will have lets say 500 bilion market cap where NEM will be just 10bilion one on 20th possition point is to be live as competive technology to that time.
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Good bait for trying replicating xmr success. Why we need classic ? (with moderate thread ? )
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I love that ninja release,,, More than all i like that i got my share.
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.... He is in China right? Actually this coin is mainly holded by Chinese, btc38 lists it since the launched. But XEM has the fixed coins, right? How to make money from masternode?
Most coins are holded by Chinise not really Nem, probably BTC yes but not Nem... BTC38 vs Poloniex is now 55/45 with volume ratio. When was a biggest pump it have most volume 90% was from polo those days by,but i see that day by day XEM volume from china is rissing and probably due to them nem doen't loose market cap. When you have masternode (VPS node with 3M XEM balance on it) you will earn 300 xem per day it is 0.12 BTC per month. Founds to run supernode were reserved at 0 block, in 2years coins will be granted to node owners but supernode, after 2 years superrnode should be founded by Nem network probably by domains,assets registrations and other services arround NEM like that.
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It seems that holds more than half of the funds raised today. Probably to pay the country people sign out-of-the-money escrow, phase 1 has instead of money.
about what adress you are talking about ? Today was directly raised: 12NJGwAFkBk4fQDdXDTLP2XgPri81ydZNo 0.00218136 BTC 0.00000001 BTC 2016-08-27 03:29:59 13E44opQfvUWdqCv8wzQPcJXwhBC8BAfbC 0.02378805 BTC 0.00000001 BTC 2016-08-27 01:55:33 19qdwPn1KQroVJ8xMJeD2Epq7DQZtooMY1 0.05311849 BTC 0.00000001 BTC 2016-08-27 01:55:33 13E44opQfvUWdqCv8wzQPcJXwhBC8BAfbC 0.01489999 BTC 0.00000001 BTC 2016-08-27 00:53:56 That is about ~0,1 BTC what is big deal with that ? Sum of all 2nd phase direct investing is about 20+ BTC while guys have send about 13BTC to escrow. Some people wanted back they founds i have read few posts of people that they got back money after some time. I don't know how approach that.
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Guys lets face it 1st stage done wasserman had send escrow money from 2nd stage (most people have send founds to escrow directly). Devs did not took 50% of ICO founds and runned away (80BTC) so maybe we should not troll this thread all day that they are pure scammers. After wasserman send money to escrow i am quite optimistic now probably they have done some stuff till now. This progect can go bad but it won't be such disaster as 90% have claimed, i was in disaster ICO IPO ... The end of ICO IPO was last day of dev communication even with some BTC secured by escrow and "well known" devs. Those well known devs were just bait for scam sadly. In crypto sometimes i feel like blind in middle of railway you know - guys with reputation are scamming you, shitcoins are going up and stuff like that. Things that suppose to not work are working and some people are getting profits.
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Just saw your previous post, you invested 1 btc? Wow, so brave and rich, I just invested 0.5 btc here. ICO likes gambling.
tell me which coin is now not gambling ? I started here when LTC was for 53$ i was moved here by greed to mine on GPU, and when you look at LTC right now its shadow and it lost 75% their fiat value. http://coinmarketcap.com/look at coins in 2013 then 2014 then 2015 and now point is that you can loose money with any crypto coin what is sad pure pump lead to more copy paste coins and what is more frustrating for crypto community they are successful not as much We can allways minimalize risk and diversificate founds. What Opair will be will mostly count from devs if they deliver most trolls wile hide in hole, but many concerns were legitimate for sure. I just don't want fall into illusion that if we know identity of someone that mean coin won't be scam. I can just remind like NXT dev runned away with developing bounty ... Lets be honest at end coins have some ratio of going up and down all from top 10 are very hard to move up those one which are in 2m $ cap can be took by some whales from polo and they will pump it just for pure fun Guys look at hisstory in coinmarket cap at top 20 and make conclusions. https://web.archive.org/web/20131218072515/http://coinmarketcap.com/http://coinmarketcap.com/
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.... We reach 150 bitcoin in total. Here you can found the ICO address.
Regards
Yes direct ICO was 150 BTC but what with escrow founds you not count them ? I can't find escrow adress with 70BTC on side. escrow adress is: 3JCsw5ZxyqdZqXTZa42225LakRdqgJqQck https://blockchain.info/address/3JCsw5ZxyqdZqXTZa42225LakRdqgJqQckAnd its end with 75BTC which will flow for development after all.
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if you add escrow to 150CTB (i have used it ) that mean 70BTC then it is about 220 BTC for creating something 112 000$ real cash That place us at : market cap: 188 I0Coin I0Coin $ 127,491 $ 0.006087 20,944,007 I0C $ 229 -55.09 % sparkline 189 HunterCoin HunterCoin $ 122,058 $ 0.009003 13,557,500 HUC $ 279 -6.35 % sparkline 190 NetCoin NetCoin $ 121,892 $ 0.000168 725,507,208 NET $ 349 -6.54 % sparkline 191 ArtByte ArtByte $ 120,416 $ 0.000174 692,828,850 ABY ** $ 308 3.05 % sparkline
... with even decent release Opair will go over that for 100k $ on development we can go easy at 1m$ ICO price per coin is 300sat that for 74m coin is rather cheap so i would say if coin will be released risk of lose is not that really high. Investing in any crypto is risky (even keeping money at exchange is too i lost 1000$ due that shit) but if you don't paly you won't get anything. Our goal is mostly to minimalize risk- with escrow risk is not very high. That is my neutral point of view at that ICO case with escrow at milestones.
PS: I have known devs with identity who were hired by people who stole ICO founds at end, my point is that in Crypto you can be always scammed.
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When the price could back to 0.00002 With catapult done as devs are promising and some other industrial use of XEM it will jump over 2k-5k area. If those tx/s will go >1000 i am sure it will climb easy, that would be really good theology to base at for companies with minimal entry cost.
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.... unbelievable... all the exact same arguments that were used in 2012 and 2013 against bitcoin are now used against monero...
very very very bullish!
best regards
But XMR is now 50M while BTC 900m. So when you will get like 500m and volume over 10m $ it will bring attention, when terrorist/drug dealers will start using it for real that will be end of XMR. Today just one transport of cocaine is worth probably 50m ... PS: Bitcoin is traceable is not such dangerous it's less dangerous than real cash ^^
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Do you think that world powers will allow to use XMR on their territory ? They will alow if they control it. When switzland doesn want to release info about some money transfers then some sad men comes to Switzland and they have convinced them to make changes i guess they had "good" arguments. Today because of money loudering you have more restricted laws when it will be needed all XMR exchanges will go down they will impose good law and they will shut it down. XMR would exist p2p but you wont get any fiat window for it that will couse hard drop in volume. If you want challenge a biggest superpowers and help terrorists with XMR you are on loose side. And big Russia and China they don't want to much freedom for their people and XMR is problem for them too. If XMR will be popular in terrorists group it will be shut down.
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... Now that XMR is discovering its own market niche people will start to form and build an economy around it. This will take maybe a shorter time than it did forming bitcoin's economy in the dark market. But beware to the community of Monero. You have to accept and embrace the fact that XMR might be seen as the "evil coin" used by criminals, illegal drug peddlers and maybe also terrorists to cover their tracks. This could be an impediment or an advancement in its development depending on your point of view. ...
Yea if it will be so popular in terrorist world then all exchanges based in civilized countries will be force to stop trading it. All people who will have open xmr wallet will be juge as terrorist and you will see that masses 10 person per day able to use XMR. Do you think that any government will allow such tool to exist,they will put in prison for having XMR client in computer. You will see liquid of XMR hmm bugattis which are sold once per year at dealer if goverment will ban such coin. Terrorism is good ecscuse for them for more control in USA currently you can go to jail without court for forever because they suspect that you are terrorist. If they target XMR as terrorist money GL to that coin. Dev will land in prison as well as it was with guys who was developing disk encryption. They claim that disk encryption is weapon and he went to jail . You won't hide with your xmr in hole dark net is nice marketing stuff but it can be really death blow at end for coin. PS: A day when XMR would be popular in terrorist community its best day to sell IMO.
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.... ok, I didn't realise that. So supernodes aren't like NXT forging where a bigger balance earns proportionately more fees, that's interesting.
Supernode is external founding program reserved founds are from 1st block. Founds for that program are reserved for 2 years that is about 1 000 m NEM. Probably plan is that supernode will get founds from money from services like domain reservation token creaction etc later and suff like that. Ofcourse you will get more xem in return while usual harveting (forging,stacking) if you have more NEM on acc but you allso will get more xem if you use more your wallet.
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... No, Lutpin changed the rules on the first post (about pay with btc, instead of XPO) and we already made the announcement in our thread.
Regards
So we will payed in BTC or in Opair? On main site is "Overall, an XPO equivalent to 7BTC will be paid to all participants." here is it will be paid in BTC. When i was joining i was thinking that we will get opair. What was a reason for changes ?
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.... wtf? where should i discuss that then? is this thread only to "xem to moon" related discussion?? fuc* off dude.
Who said that investing in NEM super node is deal of life ? At end markets always are seeking balance but you must agree that 300x3m supernode at 30BTC is quite impressive amount.For people who are not afraid put 30BTC at any coin super node is quite good addition to overall investment. For some people having supernode is more prestige than some sort of investment. And what is quite good those nodes are free from hack because of delegated harvesting and such calm sleep you won't have in most of "nodes" around. I won't tell anyone that getting 3m of xem is his deal of life because price can just go down and week later it can go up. Gold is less risky but then you can get fake gold bars like once USA wanted cheat China. PS: Maybe when i go on retainment i will be able to live from having supernode - you know that is my dream, but noone knows a future.
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