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421  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: August 11, 2015, 02:49:10 AM
Those of us in the US may have a solution...

It is called "a new currency"!

https://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/
422  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 10, 2015, 02:57:08 AM
Human evolution is now on the threshold of the door that allows humans to self-determine their own evolutionary path.
One which could allow us to not only become “Gods” of our planet but later of the solar system and possibly our galaxy…...

The only way any one can succeed in "human evolution" is by living responsibly within the laws of balance.

Man has overpopulated the planet, he has left behind a legacy of ecological devastation. In the speeding up of the dying process of a planet Man errs greatly for he causes such rapid loss of balance that life cannot sustain itself.

In the interest of a complete discussion on space travel, human evolution, God(s), preparing places for human form, etc., it would be wise to consider what Hatonn says about these and the "Genesis allegory".

We come not as regards the "Christian RELIGION". We come in truth and knowledge of that which IS--it bears on Christ-ness and perfection of the Sacred Infinite Circle but we come not as "religious" anything.
...
There have been some quite barbarous creatures who have also traveled through the cosmos, and have come to Earth, too, many being power hungry and quite wicked indeed--how do you think evil was introduced upon your place--from a snake in an apple tree? They have sometimes kidnapped earth humans, as well as other planetary human beings from other systems, and abduct them away to their home planet. There these poor creatures might then have been caused to be placed on exhibition, etc.--as you do with aliens who are captured voluntarily or involuntarily--by your governments.

It is now come to be that in these times of closing cycles upon your planet that the evil is already perfected upon your sphere--working now in your own density of perception--you are already infected and infested and you must awaken to your plight for YOU have let the demons within. These ones carry great power in some instances and they are malignant in nature for they use the power of "feelings" and other physical human characteristics and movements which are often quite strange for them and thus, a life means very little to them for they do not abide by Cosmic Law--although now, they cannot get off your planet in these closing days of sorting and separation. This is why I tell you again and again that, "It is what is already on your planet which you must attend--not we who come in these days of perception, to assist you!"

Many deceivers have come forth with their fantastic UFO tales and gained great publicity but there are MANY who do not deceive. There are ones who have encountered our ships and even have made contact and physical radio contact with our craft or other ships from strange visitors. These ones have been discredited and often simply "murdered" to stop the stories of truth and ones sent from the CIA, etc., to start cover-up stories to denounce and spread panic and fear. The worst scenarios are yet to come as your Conspirators and One World Global Cartel sets up actions which will be blamed on the space brotherhood--I ask you to mark my words NOW for it shall be in the coming.

Earth human is very difficult to convince of anything and you are so focused and centered on the false projections that you no longer know which is false and which is truth--so you cling to the physical elements--but I remind you that life-span is only averaging about 75 years of counting seasons and I suggest that there is something of which you are not aware, afoot. If it is not of the physical plane as you know it, does it not stand to reason that it might perhaps come from the Heavens, as you refer to the Cosmos? If you are EXPECTING A RETURN OF GOD, AND YOU HAVE, BY MAJORITY PROJECTION, STATED, YOURSELVES, THAT IT IS "SOON" OR "NOW"--WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? WHY WOULD YOU DENOUNCE THE VERY TRUTH-BRINGERS WHO WOULD BRING YOU INTO TRUTH AND BRING ABOUT THE RETURN OF GOD WHICH YOU EXPECT? HOW LONG WILL HU-MAN OF EARTH DENY GOD? HOW LONG WILL YOU CHOOSE RIDICULOUS FABRICATIONS WHEN THE TRUTH OF THAT WHICH IS COMING IS SO MUCH MORE PERFECTED AND WONDROUS? ALL OF YOU WISH TO TAKE YOUR HUMAN FORMS; WOULD IT NOT BE MORE CREDIBLE TO SUGGEST TAKING THEM TO PLACES PREPARED FOR HUMAN FORM THAN TO RESIDE ON FLOATING CLOUDS WHERE HUMAN FORMS WOULD SIMPLY FALL BACK TO EARTH? I SUGGEST IT IS NOT "OUR" TRUTH WHICH IS IN QUESTION, BROTHERS!
423  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 09, 2015, 08:27:15 PM
Love is reward sequence - a drug, a chemical reaction in our brains that predisposes us to reproduce lots and lots.

Your claims about love are ignoring conclusions from the science of consciousness.

Calling it a drug in no way offsets what love means to us. Even if it is "reducible", it does not mean that it is a "hallucination", or that it lacks meaning for us.

Actually, the mind is not "reducible", as shown from Irreducible Mind and other studies such as the study with the 52 points; under the materialistic explanation, NDEs are an "evolutionary anomaly", and an apparent medical impossibility. Further, we can see that NDEs change people, unlike hallucinations and dreams, and the way people change is very telling, it is again contrary to anything that a theory of "evolutionary selection" could explain.

"The values you get from an NDE are not the ones you need to function in everyday life," says Greyson. Having stared eternity in the face, he observes, those who return often lose their taste for ego-boosting achievement. Not even the diehard skeptics doubt the powerful personal effects of NDEs. "This is a profound emotional experience," explains Nuland. "People are convinced that they've seen heaven."

Also, further evidence to consider is the concept of "subjectivity" as it relates to the findings of quantum mechanics. Subjectivity is used in contrast with "objectivity" which is described as "a view of truth or reality which is free of any individual's influence". A fully reducible view of the world can never be an objective one because these quantum observations are in a state of subjectivity (subject to an individual's influence), i.e. mathematics logically proves that the observation is affected by choices made by the observer.

When you observe something, what is the aspect of yourself which is interacting with that which you are observing but awareness/consciousness?

At the fundamental level of reality everything is energy, and that is an irrefutable conclusion in physics no matter how you look at it. And thus to believe that we are in any way separate from anything else in the universe, let alone the particles in our immediate vicinity, once again is not supported by the evidence.

So please consider these ideas regarding the "science of consciousness" from physics and NDE research.

Quote from: Larry Dossey, MD
"The modern tradition of equating death with an ensuing nothingness can be abandoned. For there is no reason to believe that human death severs the quality of the oneness in the universe."
424  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 09, 2015, 04:41:06 AM
Burn the society built on corrupted moral righteousness and make a new one based on sexual pleasure.
Make love not war.

Is it love when you give your "partner-in-love" a fatal disease?


That's a loaded question and fallacy, cannot be answered properly
Do you truly have no answer to my question?

Could you try making an argument that does not rely on the notion of fallacy?

OP apparently thinks that morality is some sort of computer program or "computer code" that can simply be "run" (once it is "cracked" or "solved"?) with nothing more than the right "hardware"; you can tell that he would like to avoid discussing the consequences of destroying monogamy.

Phase 5. Merging of hardware and wetware, next phase of human evolution. Religion fully obsolete as mortality itself has been solved.

OP has no willingness to discuss the "science" that backs up his idea that monogamy has no value, and no science regarding his gender "theories".
What is known is that Sex-for-pleasure is "addictive" to the point that all sorts of people can and do act irresponsibly (without regard for love!) and the consequences are immense!
OP is not willing to discuss the science of life-after-death with me either. This is not a rational approach to the traditional views of monogamy, gender, and God; OP and his supporters merely avoid the questions I have posed!
425  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 09, 2015, 03:41:58 AM
Burn the society built on corrupted moral righteousness and make a new one based on sexual pleasure.
Make love not war.

It seems to me that you are confusing pleasure and love.
Is it love when you give your "partner-in-love" a fatal disease?

I am only asking you because Beliathon refuses to answer this!
426  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: August 08, 2015, 07:14:20 AM
Stories are not evidence, NDEs are not evidence.
Any doctor will easily explain you why they are seeing stuff when their oxygen levels aren't normal.
The chances of "god" creating us are probably the same as some alien race creating us.

P.S. Points 1 and 5 contradict each other. Cheerio.

BUMP for the concise scientific proof of God posted in this other thread; it is a logical deduction starting from empirical observations and easily-accepted premises:

1) Observe the numerous empirical observations supporting "the survival hypothesis", which is part of "the scientific study of consciousness"; the survival hypothesis, i.e. "life after death", is the simplest explanation for the evidence (summarized in 52 points), so it is most correct. For this proof, only point #36 (linked below) needs to be accepted; this point states that the overwhelming evidence (51 other points) now places the burden of proof upon those who are skeptical of the survival hypothesis. Therefore, the survival hypothesis is valid knowledge, "proven" by the weight of the evidence (and the counterargument proposed by LaudaM above is insufficient, even if correct).
2) Consider the Definition of humanism as necessarily rejecting the survival hypothesis. That is, all humanists reject the supernatural, god(s), "life after death", etc. This is because humanism is Defined as the idea that Man is the basis for existence, thought, and ethics and acts as the founder and guarantor of knowledge and thought.
3) Consider the Rational Principle that all reason and thinking must be backed by substance (especially when it comes to the God-question) and that therefore any denial of (a Supreme being called) GOD as the guarantor and founder of knowledge and reason is necessarily an affirmation of (a Rational being called) Man as that guarantor.
4) Conclusion: The knowledge acquired from the evidence is in conflict with humanism; therefore, GOD is the guarantor of knowledge, not Man.


"Let it be said that not all humanists are atheists, but presumably all atheists are humanists, since what else could they be?"
Atheism and Secularity, Page 10
Link

Only Man or GOD can be the guarantor of knowledge and thought (reason).
I propose (along with Mr. Eller) that a rationalist atheist would also dismiss claims about the entire line of "spiritual" thinking, as nothing more than a metaphor run amok.
This would be a mistake because Life after death is not a metaphor--it is backed by 52 salient points of evidence.
Now I am asking atheists to be rational with regards to the evidence; in common parlance this means that one can think clearly and is capable of intelligently assessing new ideas when presented.
I have just presented evidence refuting humanism, defined as the idea that Man is the basis for existence, thought, and ethics and acts as the founder and guarantor of knowledge and thought. For the humanist, a soul is a foreign and inert concept--and nothing more than a concept, literally a word without a referent. All humanists are without a belief in the afterlife.
I have proven that life exists after death, and that is where humanism is wrong about Man's consciousness.
I hope humanists will try to responsibly address the evidence, and likewise for any atheist.
427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 06, 2015, 09:15:43 PM
I simply call it like I see it, and it just so happens that I see the world very, very accurately. I won't claim I'm not having fun here, though.

How can you claim that your "view" is accurate when you refuse to reply to those who point out your errors?

You won't even defend your "view". How can it be correct?
428  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 04, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Let it be said that not all humanists are atheists, but presumably all atheists are humanists, since what else could they be?"
Atheism and Secularity, Page 10
Link

Only Man or GOD can be the guarantor of knowledge and thought (reason).
I propose (along with Mr. Eller) that a rationalist atheist would also dismiss claims about the entire line of "spiritual" thinking, as nothing more than a metaphor run amok.
This would be a mistake because Life after death is not a metaphor--it is backed by 52 salient points of evidence.
Now I am asking atheists to be rational with regards to the evidence; in common parlance this means that one can think clearly and is capable of intelligently assessing new ideas when presented.
I have just presented evidence refuting humanism, defined as the idea that Man is the basis for existence, thought, and ethics and acts as the founder and guarantor of knowledge and thought. For the humanist, a soul is a foreign and inert concept--and nothing more than a concept, literally a word without a referent.
I have proven that life exists after death, and that is where Beliathon is wrong about the mind.
I hope he will try to responsibly address the evidence, and likewise for any atheist.
429  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 09:24:25 PM
A debate about God can neither be won nor lost, therefore as far as debate goes it is shit.

Well, I disagree. All atheists are humanists, since what else could they be? I have debunked humanism, so therefore all atheists are mistaken.

That is a fallacious statement. Any time you use worlds like all, every, none, never, etc you should reexamine your statement, because it is likely incorrect. Not all atheists are humanists, and not all humanists are atheists.

"Let it be said that not all humanists are atheists, but presumably all atheists are humanists, since what else could they be?"
Atheism and Secularity, Page 10
Link

So why don't YOU tell me what else they could be? I have already examined the topic and found all non-humanist atheists to be "fakes". They don't ever address the evidence for life after death and what it could mean.

I have backed up my claim with this quote from the anthropologist Jack David Eller; who is backing your claim?
430  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 06:31:06 PM
A debate about God can neither be won nor lost, therefore as far as debate goes it is shit.

Well, I disagree. All atheists are humanists, since what else could they be? I have debunked humanism, so therefore all atheists are mistaken.
431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 06:28:57 PM
You always have the choice of accepting something and rejecting something else; it is simply a matter of education and effort.

So much thought, so much effort, so much energy wasted denying what is right in front of your eyes. I know you're afraid theists, afraid of the unknown.

But there's nothing to fear, there never has been. The unknown is nothing more than a shadow on the wall.

I think Beliathon fears to acknowledge the truth about GOD just like he refuses to acknowledge life after death. I am not acting out of fear by offering these writings to you for your consideration. If you want to reject the Phoenix Journals, go right ahead; I have still posted the evidence from the near-death site which refutes humanism; Lie-a-thon ignores what is in front of his eyes at his own peril; if he does not want to respond, it is because he is afraid.

Hatonn talks about the need for each one to be responsible for waking up to the truth about GOD; he has produced a vast volume of writings, but he cannot demand that you believe them.

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I simply ask you to take note at how many people pronounce edicts regarding our work and word and how many of YOU labor long and hard in trying to change perceptions--when the persons involved have not, nor have any intentions of so much as reading the work and word in point. I am continually amused at how many tell me to "go back to Christ!" How so--I TRAVEL WITH YOUR "CHRIST"!! AND, FURTHERMORE, IF ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ MY WRITINGS--IT CAN NOT BE REFUTED. So, WHO is the fool? Well, perhaps "me" for wasting your time with it for, after all, I have all the "time" in the Universe--and you are VERY LIMITED IN THAT COMMODITY. I would ask you, however, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING THAT TAKES SO MUCH "TIME"?
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you CANNOT DEMAND THAT A PERSON BELIEVE ANYTHING. Therefore, what is your RESPONSIBILITY? Always it gets down to "responsibility". You can "offer" but more than that--you are efforting to "cause" through one form of coercion or another--your "opinions" upon another and manipulate that "other's" responsibility aspect. Remember Little Crow's rather "crude" but impressive statement?: "People are too lazy, wanting somebody to help them see the light. Get off your dead ass and look for the light yourself. Find the switch, turn it on..." You cannot do a thing FOR somebody else any more than you can have the right nor the capability to take on another's responsibility.

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_85.pdf
432  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 06:15:11 PM
Hatonn talks about the need for each one to be responsible for waking up to the truth about GOD; he has produced a vast volume of writings, but he cannot demand that you believe them.

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I simply ask you to take note at how many people pronounce edicts regarding our work and word and how many of YOU labor long and hard in trying to change perceptions--when the persons involved have not, nor have any intentions of so much as reading the work and word in point. I am continually amused at how many tell me to "go back to Christ!" How so--I TRAVEL WITH YOUR "CHRIST"!! AND, FURTHERMORE, IF ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ MY WRITINGS--IT CAN NOT BE REFUTED. So, WHO is the fool? Well, perhaps "me" for wasting your time with it for, after all, I have all the "time" in the Universe--and you are VERY LIMITED IN THAT COMMODITY. I would ask you, however, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING THAT TAKES SO MUCH "TIME"?
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you CANNOT DEMAND THAT A PERSON BELIEVE ANYTHING. Therefore, what is your RESPONSIBILITY? Always it gets down to "responsibility". You can "offer" but more than that--you are efforting to "cause" through one form of coercion or another--your "opinions" upon another and manipulate that "other's" responsibility aspect. Remember Little Crow's rather "crude" but impressive statement?: "People are too lazy, wanting somebody to help them see the light. Get off your dead ass and look for the light yourself. Find the switch, turn it on..." You cannot do a thing FOR somebody else any more than you can have the right nor the capability to take on another's responsibility.

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_85.pdf
433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 06:11:14 PM
Way to ignore my point and go right on again arguing about God. You two deserve each other.

Ah, I see you don't want to discuss humanism, but notice how it is humanist ethics that Beliathon is advocating!

I have posted evidence that negates the foundation of humanism (denial of life after death). This undermines humanist ethics as well.

You wanted to discuss "the dangers of Liathon's socialist dogmas"??

Humanism is the dogma that I am attacking; Marx has stated that Marxism is not different from humanism!

I hope you will agree that humanism has been discredited.

I don't want to discuss any topic interwoven with God or faith based logic
because it is a pointless discussion that never ends and only serves as a distraction from facts.
You didn't just discredit humanism,
you also threw in a bunch more bullshit about God,
giving this asshat Liathon all the ammunition he needs to no only dismiss everything you say,
but then use you to push his logical failures and inconsistencies down the page
and get away with ignoring them
in favor of having your pointless arguments about God
which he knows FOR A FACT he can't be proven wrong about.
First, let me say that I agree that Beliathon is "behaving" in favor of ignorance and against truth; however, unlike you, I think he has no leg to stand on.

1. It is not "faith-based logic" that discredits humanism; rather, it is evidence from observation and reasoning; I made 52 salient points and they are all logical, they evidence the fact of life after death.
2. Lie-a-thon can ignore all he wants, and he can even lie if he sees fit; he is a humanist, after all, so for him and all humanists, Lying is a relative term and therefore doesn't exist if the person thinks it is OK.
3. I am pointing out his failures and inconsistencies as regards the evidence for mind-outside-of-the-brain. He was still arguing with BADecker about this even after he was shown the evidence.
4. What cannot be ignored is the record that is being posted here. Beliathon ignores both you and me, so his arguments are failing.
5. I have posted a record too. Anyone may choose to ignore it. However, it is the truth about GOD, so by ignoring it you are no better than Beliathon who will undoubtedly probably ignore the truth outlined in the above 4 points.
434  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 05:25:08 PM
Way to ignore my point and go right on again arguing about God. You two deserve each other.

Ah, I see you don't want to discuss humanism, but notice how it is humanist ethics that Beliathon is advocating!

I have posted evidence that negates the foundation of humanism (denial of life after death). This undermines humanist ethics as well.

You wanted to discuss "the dangers of Liathon's socialist dogmas"??

Humanism is the dogma that I am attacking; Marx has stated that Marxism is not different from humanism!

I hope you will agree that humanism has been discredited.
435  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 05:05:33 PM
Unlike our minds, which reside wholly in our rotting and dead brains.

The difference is, I demand evidence for each and every wild thing I believe, and you don't. It's a matter of intellectual integrity in which I find you lacking.

Where is the evidence or reasoning to contradict the 52 points on the near-death site which demonstrate that mind can exist outside of the brain?

http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html#a36

I conclude that the burden of proof has shifted to the skeptics; that point neatly summarizes the other 51 points.

Why does Beliathon reject this evidence? Will he tell us?
436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
In sum:
GOD is love.
Humanists deny GOD's existence and deny life after death; they claim that sex is love.
Humanists cannot address the 52 points of evidence that support life after death, and they are also mistaken about GOD.
437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 07:36:46 AM
Humanism teaches--the individual need answer only to himself. He is his own judge. Lying is a relative term and therefore doesn't exist if the person thinks it is OK. (The end justifies the means.) Humanism teaches--Man is basically good and therefore is able to determine his own best values by himself--a child is able to determine his own best values at any age (Efforts are now being made to lower the age of statutory rape to 14 years old). Sex is a physical animal need that must be gratified in any way that the person deems best. Since guilt and shame do not exist, and no one can do any wrong, there is no need for forgiveness and/or punishment. Suicide, adultery, abortion-on-demand, sadism and masochism, sex and nudity in public, incest, prostitution, sodomy, masturbation, pornography, euthanasia, drug use, etc. are all OK.

Humanism teaches--total hostile rejection of traditional beliefs and substitution of man, evolution, amorality, basic goodness of man, and one-world system in its place. Humanism teaches--one-world system ruled by an intellectual elite (The Humanists.)

Humanism teaches--man to follow his own changing values and be responsible for the consequences of his actions (abortion, illegitimate births, lesbianism, homosexuality, murder, hatred, strife, contention--in general--let it all hang out).

Humanism denies life after death, and no man need recognize ANY authority beyond himself.

Humanism teaches--there is no certainty because there is constant change (evolution), therefore law must be continually changed to the whims of man who is the Supreme Being.


Hatonn explains that man cannot change the Law. Man has tampered with Scripture as it relates to sex, to suit his own beliefs.

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What you are being given in the current PLEIADIAN CONNECTIONS series is the Truth of how life WORKS. You will find that the physical is only related to that which is SENSED. Spiritual is that which is KNOWN. The two are hardly connected except that the physical body is an extension of the eternal Mind--for use of that mind in a physical environment--to serve.

Attitudes such as those considered "OK" in your slang terminology are simply not acceptable behaviors in the higher experience where the "body physical" is a most unimportant portion of experience. SENSED existence is a very "primal/primitive" state of Being.

Is masturbation evil? It depends on the intent! It is certainly NOT SOMETHING MANDATORY TO GOOD HEALTH. I cannot sanction such a projection as coming directly from God for it simply is not so! Does this lessen the writer? NO, only the perception. It is very hard for mankind to come into clarity and accurate perception. Does this make the book evil and the author unworthy? No, it only means that the author is a human and that the book must not be published AS GIVEN DIRECTLY OF GOD--THAT, DEAR ONES, IS WHAT IS INCORRECT ABOUT YOUR BIBLICAL REFERENCES--THEY HAVE BEEN TAMPERED BY MAN TO SUIT THE BELIEF OF MAN.

Any Earth person can publish anything they please and many are worthy of great note--however, if publishing is IN THE NAME OF DIRECT STATEMENT AND RULES FROM GOD--NO. It, further, is my responsibility to sort the two. Would you consider me a friend to allow publication of material which is NOT correct to go forth and the soul of even ONE be misled?

I care not what YOU think about the "hereafter"--I KNOW what is there and I know about the prepared places and little human of Earth will abide by the Laws as laid forth and practiced by those where and with whom you will be placed--OR, you will be left to your own demise.

This simply is the way it IS and I cannot change it to suit your hurt feelings or arguments--WHAT IS--IS! WHO ARE YOU TO DEMAND ANYTHING? So be it--however, your Earth Shan gets in worse and worse condition, run by total chaos and insanity so, if I were you, I would begin to consider these points most carefully indeed.
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf
438  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 03, 2015, 06:43:48 AM
Karl Marx's own definition of Humanism reads:
"Humanism is the denial of God, and the total affirmation of man... Humanism is really nothing else but Marxism"
--Karl Marx, ECONOMIC POLITIQUE ET PHILOSOPHIE, VOL. I, PAGES 38-40.
439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 02, 2015, 09:08:35 PM


Quote from: Dennis Lewis (from "Awakening to the Miracle of Ordinary Life")
The struggle that we need to undertake is the struggle to see the way in which I constantly lie to myself. It is the struggle to be inwardly sincere. It is this seeing, a process that also requires the support of my body and feelings (for my sensations and feelings can also lie), that can free me from my habitual preoccupations, expectations, and beliefs—those powerful psychological states that keep me from experiencing myself and the world in the fullness of the present moment. But as anyone who has tried knows, the effort to be inwardly sincere brings with it suffering, real suffering, the immediate, painful experience of the many ways in which I cut myself off from the truth. This experience, as difficult as it is, also brings with it a great sense of freedom and joy, a sense of returning home from exile.

"Awakening to the Miracle of Ordinary Life"
440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: August 01, 2015, 12:12:51 AM
Clearing up the confusion on the subjects of sex and God:
I was happy to see a thread on Reddit recently discussing the "mystery" of the Phoenix Journals and related writings. They were asking the question "How was this prodigious output (a 200-page book EVERY 3 WEEKS FOR YEARS, hundreds of books in total) covering such a wide range of topics, possible?

Please do not be too quick to reject the truthful answer.

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Almost everything coming forth in truth is that which NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR! HOWEVER, WITH IT COMES THE SOLUTIONS AND INSTRUCTIONS---AND ALWAYS THE GRACE OF CREATOR AND THE UNLIMITED FORGIVENESS, LOVE AND PLACEMENT.

When man and woman desire the oneness of each other they should try first to become one in energy intent. You have almost no intimacy in your relationships as you now practice them. "Sex" is not intimacy. What the Law indicates is need for total RESPONSIBILITY of your actions and not carelessly hopping into the “hay" to romp around without thought to the impact either on the partner or the possible outcome of the relationship. Your heart will know of the difference. Sometimes one partner or the other might---in love--wish to “accommodate” the other but this is rare indeed, for the level of “mutual” response is far differing both in the sexes and the emotions. It is most rare indeed that one “gives” to the other in total love--it is usually more that “I may get something later if I cooperate now."

The point, of course, is that the sexual union does have a purpose and man has forgotten that love” is far more than ten or fifteen minutes of pleasure. Love has really nothing to do with it for it is simply a body function--- further it is the one body function that has pulled down your entire civilization over and over again. It is also that God desires you raise yourself above the level of non-thinking animal and assume thoughtful responsibility for your actions. In the ultimate union there is shared intent of purpose and the total consideration of one for the other and it all takes care quite nicely, of itself.

Most "groups" and doctrines are pretty sure their truth will not measure up to this truth and in fact, most will certainly not do so. Rather than adjust and make an even greater contribution, however, they will set about discrediting.

Man is curious about that which is denounced, banned and censored and will seek dilligently until he can find out all about the matter--never be distressed at those who throw stones, especially in public media, etc., for they do you great favor. We speak truth and you have naught to fear for it is intended that it shall find ear and eye.

It may not be what ones "wish" to hear, but it will be truth and the hearts of man shall know it!

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/90-01-04.pdf

Abstinence IS the only positive means of birth control. Mankind has acted irresponsibly and the consequences are everywhere.
I am quoting from these writings to clear up the confusion about God and sex; if there are questions, I am happy to answer.
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