Thank you sir for permission to translate your thread. But before that I apologized because I just finished today and I made it. This is all because of Covid-19, my job is a bit tougher. The following is the result of my translation in the Indonesian Sub Forum [Edukasi][Diskusi]- Daftar Halaman Tersembunyi dan DeskripsiOnce again, thank you very much, this is very useful for me and maybe in a local forum. Thanks for your time to translate it. I did not remember I have conversation with you in PM.  I always reply to any people who contact me in PM for acceptance to do translations of my threads "You are free, always to do so. Just remember to leave links (for respect and for your account safety -- plagiarism causes perma-ban) Please correct this typo in your translation too. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Halaman Tersembunyi/ fitur | | | Deskripsi penggunaan | | | | | | PGB Kunci Publik | | | PGB Kunci Publik | | |
Is it just a typo? Because as far as I know the correct one is PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) Public Key.
It is a typo and you make me surprised that I did neither notice the typo nor many guests of this thread. I therefore much thankful for your typo finding. After month, it has been corrected. |
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"Never be correct", even if both assets were literally moving together for months? While they've moved the opposite ways recently, it still doesn't change the fact that they were somewhat correlated. This isn't even an opinion. It's just data.
"All models are wrong" according to George Box. There are many contributors (variables) to a model. You have to make decisions to keep this variable while exclude another variable. No matter the final models you like the most are, all of them are wrong at somewhat levels and at some points of time. Model A can be right today but it will be wrong later. The unbelievable weak down in March of 2020 is a lively example for this. There is no model can control all those things. The amazing thing is if you can build a good model from which you can get some points to use. It is not perfect but you can use with your awareness of uncertainty. Models are built from past conditions, data and with the assumption that future conditions won't change much. In reality, life is different and it happens in uncontrollable way. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_models_are_wrong |
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Using the 30 days MA will always give you "terrible" results, the number of blocks found in 30 days is a drop in the ocean as far as the 210,000 blocks are concerned, so getting 7 years halving estimate is pretty normal, getting 2 years is also nothing out of the ordinary, can you do another analysis from the last halving to the latest block? one more thing, you should use block time, ignore the confirmation thing, I remember you made a topic about empty blocks? you could use the same data from LoyceV.
Thank you. It is my mistake from carelessness with the likely wrong term from bitinfocharts.com. From my mistake, I looked back and see they use confirmation time ~ block time. This discussion sheds a light for me that the confirmation time shows how generous or parsimonious or relevant people do their bitcoin transactions over time. There are some factors behind (knowledge, practice, skills, urgent needs, etc.) but somewhat can give us some ideas. |
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I would like to know what Mitchell has to say about the template.
You can find it in OP. Template is only one part of previous posts.
Local rules:
- The only allowed posts are about updates to the OP or available spots for campaigns.
- Posts about available spots for campaigns should be removed when they become obsolete.
- Discussion about campaigns are strictly forbidden (unless it's really relevant, which in 99% of the cases, it isn't).
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That's the confirmation time for a transaction, it is not really correlated with the time between blocks although it can be influenced by it, just look at how that thing is looking for the last year, if it were like that we would be seeing the next halving in 8 years as for the last month we've had an average confirmation time of around 20 minutes. This is the block time, showing the average time between blocks: https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-confirmationtime.html#6mI am sorry for my mistake. I did not carefully notice it. Confirmation time is affected by fee rate each transaction is set up with. Firstly with Raw value option, I see the fluctuation around 10 mins and not check more. Thanks for your correction. I knew the link you provided (thanks, of course). You post makes me wonder why bitinfocharts.com uses the term confirmationtime for block time. This somewhat causes my mistake (I did not do double check). 
It is a function of how full the mempool is, not how fast or slow the block time is. If I drop 500 MB of 1 sat/vbyte transaction in the the mempool right now, then even if we found a block every 5 minutes for the rest of the day the median confirmation time is going to be pushed up towards an hour. There is no direct correlation.
Yes. It is not a linear correlation. In fact, hashrates rise significantly or falls dramatically over different period. Total blocks founds with short interval and total blocks found with long interval balance one another. It is what why the median value of block time is around 10 minutes. Miners (their greediness, over-mining activities or capitulations) can result in shortly impacts but in the long run, they can not. Looking at the graph, there is also no way the average block time could have increased from 10 minutes to 17 minutes over the course of 3 months without a massive drop in hashrate. That's approximately 10-12 difficulty readjustments. For the difficulty to readjust 10-12 times, but the block time to continue to increase, there would have had to have been a huge and consistent loss of hashrate over the last 3 months, when in reality it has increased from ~120 EH/s to ~140 EH/s.
Thank you for the detailed explanation from which I learned something too. Again, the chart is taken from third party and its validity is unknown. I simply took it for these estimations. Price of bitcoin has its impacts as well. Lots of assumptions, lots of if. I am thankful to the difficulty adjustment that help the network works and halving intervals are almost stable.  |
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As for bitcoin specifically, it's a typical coin flip. If you'd ask me a month ago, I would say that bitcoin would continue to go up with the S&P500(because of government bailouts) but lately both assets have been going on their separate ways so we're back to extremely unpredictable territory.
All of such plots, correlations are for reference and for what happened, for the past. Forecasts are made by using past data and never be correct but among many useless or incorrect models, there are some good models that we can use. Those possible lag effects are the decision made by different companies to layoff their employees. It might have been a hard time for them for sure, but that's the reality of what happened during the pandemic.
Delayed or lag effects here are from many factors: - Delay of news released why we all knew the pandemic is there. WHO delayed to make a public announcement that it is a pandemic. - Delay of data collection on unemployment rates till the monthly reports. Monthly reports are released on the first Friday of each calendar month. - Delay of companies to reduce their human resources, etc. - Delay of news effects on different local markets. Where is the geographical location the news is released initially? And how long till the news show its biggest effects globally? About Bitcoin and gold, over history and in 2020 only, they are positively correlated with 7 days delay (not instantly or intraday). I can say so (with confirmation from data). I think that these graphs may well correlate for this reason: It is no secret to anyone that the pandemic in the first place deals a very tangible blow to the US economy. The economy begins to suffer and, accordingly, large masses of people begin to seriously think about what to do with their savings so that they are not subject to inflation, and naturally some of these people turn their eyes towards bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. And thus, it can have a rather tangible effect on the price of bitcoin.
It is just partially true I think. Because the real momentum behind the iceberg is not from the pandemic, it happened and accumulated months before the pandemic announcement on March. About people, there are many conservative people that you will almost never be able to convince them about bank system bailouts. They are more than ones you can convince and they are not real fuel for the rise of bitcoin, IMO. |
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I came back to WO today (with post, not simply read). Enjoy WO gang! |
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Halving happens for each 210 000 blocks but how long the interval between 2 consecutive halving days is a myth. No one can tell you exactly. It depends on fluctuations or increases or decreases of block confirmation time within the all batch of 210 000 blocks. The chart shows you how the median confirmation time (block time) change over years. The plot is for 30-days MA. Let's estimate the interval between 2 halvings based on 30-days MA of block time. In fact, I don't believe we will have to wait up to next 7 years (since May 2020) to see next halving. The plot shows regularly corrections of block time. - 10 minutes: 3.995 years
- 15 minutes: 5.993 years
- 17.76 minutes (current 30-days MA of block time): 7.096 years
Raw estimations . di 210000*10/60/24/365
3.9954338
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5.9931507
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Update 2020w42, 23oct2020 02:43:30 (GMT time)* last 3 days belong to 2020w43.For all users:- Number of users who only earned at least 1 merit: 20726
- Number of users who only sent at least 1 merit: 7369
- Number of users who earned AND sent at least 1 merit: 15262
- Number of users who earned OR sent at least 1 merit: 43357
- Total banned users: 210355
- Total earned merits (for all): 689863
- Total sent merits (for all): 734888
For legit users only:- Total legit users: 12630
- Total earned merits: 652737
- Total sent merits: 705958
A summary table (for legit users only) | | | | | Earned merits | | | | | | Sent merits | | | | Groups | | | Freq. | Percent | Total earned | Percent | | | Freq. | Percent | Total sent | Percent | | __________________ | | | ___________ | _________ | _____________ | _______ | | | ___________ | _________ | _____________ | _______ | | 1-10 | | | 7657 | 60.6 | 35910 | 5.5 | | | 8886 | 70.4 | 31266 | 4.4 | | 11-100 | | | 3878 | 30.7 | 116894 | 17.9 | | | 2885 | 22.8 | 97774 | 13.8 | | 101-250 | | | 570 | 4.5 | 87652 | 13.4 | | | 503 | 4.0 | 78309 | 11.1 | | 251-500 | | | 239 | 1.9 | 81035 | 12.4 | | | 176 | 1.4 | 61293 | 8.7 | | 501-1000 | | | 167 | 1.3 | 119515 | 18.3 | | | 91 | 0.7 | 59139 | 8.4 | | 1001+ | | | 120 | 1.0 | 211731 | 32.4 | | | 89 | 0.7 | 378177 | 53.6 | | Total | | | 12630 | 100 | 652737 | 100 | | | 12630 | 100 | 705958 | 100 | | __________________ | | | ___________ | _________ | _____________ | _______ | | | ___________ | _________ | _____________ | _______ |
- Data on autobanned/ nuked users began at January 04, 2019, 08:03:06 AM *Counted at the start of this topic
| Merit status (for all) | Frequency | Percent | | _________________________ | ______________ | ______________ | | Sent only | 7369 | 17.0 | | Earned only | 20726 | 47.8 | | Both | 15262 | 35.2 | | Total | 43357 | 100 | | _________________________ | ______________ | ______________ | | Account status (for legit only) | | | | _________________________ | ______________ | ______________ | | Legit | 12630 | 82.8 | | Banned | 2632 | 17.2 | | Total | 15262 | 100 | | _________________________ | ______________ | ______________ |
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If the average confirmation wait time for the 2 MB target from tip is between 1-5 minute then I think it won't be a problem if I use the 5 MB target from tip assuming that I will get confirmation between 20-30 minute of confirmation after the Transaction broadcast (also without ignoring the two factors above). But of course only do so if it's not in urgent circumstance.
You misunderstood it. In average, block time is 10 minutes. And if the fee rate you use is 2 MB from the tip of mempool, it means you will likely have to wait till next 2 blocks to have first confirmation for your transaction. As I said, it depends on mempool condition changes and your luck. If after the timestamp you broadcast your transaction, mempool won't change much (won't increase much in size) and blocks are found superb fastly (within seconds or less than 10 minutes per each block), your transaction will be confirmed fastly. However, when you estimate waiting time for your transaction, you should assume block time is 10 minutes. The plot (1-year window) shows you fluctuation of block time around 10 minutes. If you expand windows to more than 1 year (the second link), you can see there are times when block times are more than 20 minutes. The luck I meant is third link. Sometimes blocks are found very fast but rarely to see. And it is more rarely to see if it is about 2 consecutive blocks. You can also see it with my analysis on empty block. Empty block is different but you can look at emptygap (in seconds) to get what I meant about luck. Part I (for AntPool) +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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1. | 295637 13apr2014 15:52:13 295636 13apr2014 15:51:47 26 18464 |
2. | 318180 30aug2014 02:29:42 318179 30aug2014 02:29:25 17 27947.1 |
3. | 318202 30aug2014 06:16:46 318201 30aug2014 06:16:43 3 32605.6 |
4. | 319252 05sep2014 17:06:07 319251 05sep2014 17:05:53 14 33665.8 |
5. | 319412 06sep2014 16:57:02 319411 06sep2014 16:56:06 56 27099 |
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6. | 319591 07sep2014 19:16:54 319590 07sep2014 19:11:59 295 13504.7 |
7. | 320010 10sep2014 15:05:47 320009 10sep2014 15:05:32 15 32334.9 |
8. | 320724 14sep2014 22:54:03 320723 14sep2014 22:53:48 15 28636.5 |
9. | 320857 15sep2014 19:31:40 320856 15sep2014 19:31:05 35 27537.6 |
10. | 321174 17sep2014 14:46:29 321173 17sep2014 14:45:34 55 31678.1 |
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11. | 321739 20sep2014 20:42:41 321738 20sep2014 20:42:34 7 30607.7 |
12. | 321788 21sep2014 02:34:10 321787 21sep2014 02:34:05 5 34188.2 |
13. | 322407 24sep2014 23:58:18 322406 24sep2014 23:57:57 21 25934.5 |
14. | 322420 25sep2014 01:14:27 322419 25sep2014 01:14:11 16 28513.2 |
15. | 322919 28sep2014 12:04:07 322918 28sep2014 12:03:59 8 12508.7 |
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16. | 323667 03oct2014 17:32:16 323666 03oct2014 17:29:31 165 9891.12 |
17. | 323713 04oct2014 01:09:11 323712 04oct2014 01:08:44 27 23349.5 |
18. | 324519 09oct2014 10:56:13 324518 09oct2014 10:55:06 67 21874.3 |
19. | 324619 10oct2014 00:02:58 324618 10oct2014 00:02:41 17 30617.8 |
20. | 324847 11oct2014 12:27:42 324846 11oct2014 12:27:32 10 41061 |
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21. | 325496 15oct2014 23:07:56 325495 15oct2014 23:07:39 17 13190.4 |
22. | 325839 18oct2014 05:38:02 325838 18oct2014 05:38:02 0 32985.2 |
23. | 325994 19oct2014 05:53:40 325993 19oct2014 05:53:16 24 25394 |
24. | 326053 19oct2014 17:26:46 326052 19oct2014 17:25:51 55 10222.3 |
25. | 327574 29oct2014 23:15:35 327573 29oct2014 23:14:02 93 22767.1 |
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26. | 328525 04nov2014 15:11:41 328524 04nov2014 15:10:20 81 37132.9 |
27. | 330046 14nov2014 23:16:29 330045 14nov2014 23:16:19 10 30000.7 |
28. | 330108 15nov2014 09:39:44 330107 15nov2014 09:39:18 26 27234.8 |
29. | 332277 30nov2014 11:22:47 332276 30nov2014 11:22:12 35 15591 |
30. | 332553 02dec2014 09:05:01 332552 02dec2014 08:53:18 703 25170.2 |
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31. | 333462 08dec2014 20:21:02 333461 08dec2014 20:20:36 26 25980.9 |
32. | 333520 09dec2014 07:43:09 333519 09dec2014 07:42:57 12 23694.5 |
33. | 333549 09dec2014 12:56:12 333548 09dec2014 12:55:57 15 26019 |
34. | 333806 11dec2014 06:51:43 333805 11dec2014 06:51:21 22 21704.7 |
35. | 333956 12dec2014 05:10:29 333955 12dec2014 05:09:52 37 55416.5 |
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36. | 334548 16dec2014 10:35:52 334547 16dec2014 10:35:00 52 23399.1 |
37. | 334880 18dec2014 22:14:25 334879 18dec2014 22:12:01 144 20406.1 |
38. | 335248 21dec2014 15:07:02 335247 21dec2014 15:06:35 27 25720.9 |
39. | 335411 22dec2014 19:31:46 335410 22dec2014 19:29:49 117 56678.8 |
40. | 335519 23dec2014 10:53:30 335518 23dec2014 10:53:21 9 25308.3 |
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41. | 335855 25dec2014 14:05:37 335854 25dec2014 14:05:07 30 18858.4 |
42. | 335986 26dec2014 12:55:14 335985 26dec2014 12:54:56 18 46472.6 |
43. | 336005 26dec2014 15:53:52 336004 26dec2014 15:53:15 37 89004.6 |
44. | 336140 27dec2014 09:29:13 336139 27dec2014 09:25:28 225 12469 |
45. | 336165 27dec2014 14:49:17 336164 27dec2014 14:47:45 92 64264.5 |
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46. | 336316 28dec2014 13:24:17 336315 28dec2014 13:22:20 117 24198.4 |
47. | 336478 29dec2014 12:42:40 336477 29dec2014 12:42:15 25 44218.1 |
48. | 336572 30dec2014 02:32:07 336571 30dec2014 02:31:25 42 25495.3 |
49. | 336655 30dec2014 15:51:54 336654 30dec2014 15:51:27 27 20438.9 |
50. | 337172 02jan2015 21:41:32 337171 02jan2015 21:35:48 344 25078.3 |
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51. | 337717 06jan2015 05:58:54 337716 06jan2015 05:58:47 7 13383.9 |
52. | 337848 07jan2015 01:53:43 337847 07jan2015 01:53:01 42 23875.3 |
53. | 338289 10jan2015 03:25:23 338288 10jan2015 03:24:43 40 23802 |
54. | 338382 10jan2015 18:20:11 338381 10jan2015 18:18:29 102 29811.8 |
55. | 338522 11jan2015 17:30:58 338521 11jan2015 17:30:37 21 12767.9 |
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56. | 339238 16jan2015 18:38:54 339237 16jan2015 18:38:33 21 11191.3 |
57. | 339446 18jan2015 07:14:22 339445 18jan2015 07:14:16 6 15254.6 |
58. | 339551 18jan2015 21:42:50 339550 18jan2015 21:41:22 88 35116.9 |
59. | 339888 21jan2015 11:43:09 339887 21jan2015 11:42:44 25 22349 |
60. | 340094 22jan2015 20:42:30 340093 22jan2015 20:41:53 37 23826 |
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61. | 340115 23jan2015 01:05:39 340114 23jan2015 01:02:41 178 28700.8 |
62. | 340280 24jan2015 07:52:22 340279 24jan2015 07:51:29 53 26353.2 |
63. | 340293 24jan2015 12:32:41 340292 24jan2015 12:31:20 81 30551.4 |
64. | 340375 25jan2015 02:30:23 340374 25jan2015 02:29:45 38 19065.2 |
65. | 340434 25jan2015 14:17:31 340433 25jan2015 14:17:14 17 12649.7 |
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66. | 340723 27jan2015 17:25:21 340722 27jan2015 17:24:48 33 29734.5 |
67. | 341338 31jan2015 17:40:12 341337 31jan2015 17:31:06 546 10242.2 |
68. | 341733 03feb2015 04:47:45 341732 03feb2015 04:46:51 54 18849.5 |
69. | 342139 05feb2015 22:27:20 342138 05feb2015 22:25:07 133 19331.9 |
70. | 342406 07feb2015 12:00:25 342405 07feb2015 11:59:20 65 29272.7 |
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71. | 342482 07feb2015 23:30:31 342481 07feb2015 23:30:07 24 30417.5 |
72. | 342838 10feb2015 09:26:01 342837 10feb2015 09:24:46 75 23899.9 |
73. | 342896 10feb2015 19:22:57 342895 10feb2015 19:22:33 24 13152.6 |
74. | 342929 11feb2015 00:27:49 342928 11feb2015 00:27:11 38 28692.6 |
75. | 342937 11feb2015 01:33:19 342936 11feb2015 01:32:49 30 28926.5 |
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76. | 342963 11feb2015 06:06:07 342962 11feb2015 06:06:00 7 24257.6 |
77. | 342981 11feb2015 08:40:02 342980 11feb2015 08:40:00 2 9328.26 |
78. | 343315 13feb2015 18:17:02 343314 13feb2015 18:16:16 46 16466.4 |
79. | 343833 17feb2015 04:02:14 343832 17feb2015 04:01:01 73 21604.6 |
80. | 344013 18feb2015 08:37:35 344012 18feb2015 08:37:02 33 12463.1 |
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81. | 344254 19feb2015 19:05:41 344253 19feb2015 19:05:34 7 27458.8 |
82. | 344314 20feb2015 03:57:45 344313 20feb2015 03:57:37 8 0 |
83. | 344394 20feb2015 14:02:04 344393 20feb2015 14:01:09 55 26710.6 |
84. | 344459 21feb2015 02:24:55 344458 21feb2015 02:23:40 75 33544.5 |
85. | 344510 21feb2015 12:05:47 344509 21feb2015 12:05:28 19 1962.52 |
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86. | 344608 22feb2015 03:53:04 344607 22feb2015 03:52:00 64 29492.3 |
87. | 344858 23feb2015 21:24:22 344857 23feb2015 21:24:06 16 25882.1 |
88. | 344875 23feb2015 23:03:09 344874 23feb2015 23:02:33 36 35454.9 |
89. | 344955 24feb2015 14:07:51 344954 24feb2015 14:07:19 32 24331.1 |
90. | 344988 24feb2015 20:11:21 344987 24feb2015 20:10:58 23 25458.1 |
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91. | 345155 25feb2015 22:07:27 345154 25feb2015 22:05:39 108 14067.5 |
92. | 345228 26feb2015 10:35:53 345227 26feb2015 10:35:10 43 14310 |
93. | 345239 26feb2015 11:48:43 345238 26feb2015 11:47:31 72 22885.9 |
94. | 345321 27feb2015 00:45:10 345320 27feb2015 00:44:22 48 26336.6 |
95. | 345429 27feb2015 16:42:48 345428 27feb2015 16:39:17 211 30251.5 |
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96. | 345692 01mar2015 12:40:23 345691 01mar2015 12:39:50 33 23482.1 |
97. | 345914 03mar2015 01:00:17 345913 03mar2015 00:56:56 201 13909.9 |
98. | 345948 03mar2015 06:21:35 345947 03mar2015 06:21:29 6 24001.7 |
99. | 346030 03mar2015 18:44:42 346029 03mar2015 18:44:23 19 26333.6 |
100. | 346157 04mar2015 15:24:48 346156 04mar2015 15:24:26 22 24468.7 |
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101. | 346206 04mar2015 23:35:31 346205 04mar2015 23:22:05 806 14655 |
102. | 346590 07mar2015 17:50:27 346589 07mar2015 17:43:16 431 55894.9 |
103. | 347125 11mar2015 06:41:31 347124 11mar2015 06:41:08 23 16181.1 |
104. | 347301 12mar2015 12:49:33 347300 12mar2015 12:48:42 51 25139.1 |
105. | 347668 15mar2015 05:02:29 347667 15mar2015 04:56:57 332 36273.2 |
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106. | 347680 15mar2015 07:03:37 347679 15mar2015 07:03:05 32 27773.8 |
107. | 347720 15mar2015 13:39:48 347719 15mar2015 13:39:31 17 0 |
108. | 347847 16mar2015 10:42:15 347846 16mar2015 10:40:42 93 32555.7 |
109. | 347975 17mar2015 09:44:51 347974 17mar2015 09:42:49 122 21470.9 |
110. | 348010 17mar2015 14:56:42 348009 17mar2015 14:55:55 47 18845.3 |
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111. | 348044 17mar2015 21:46:34 348043 17mar2015 21:46:09 25 27276.2 |
112. | 348055 18mar2015 00:22:59 348054 18mar2015 00:22:39 20 11827.6 |
113. | 348231 19mar2015 05:00:33 348230 19mar2015 04:55:59 274 32916.4 |
114. | 348595 21mar2015 18:23:26 348594 21mar2015 18:22:04 82 26658.9 |
115. | 348622 21mar2015 22:59:27 348621 21mar2015 22:58:19 68 27932.9 |
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116. | 348756 22mar2015 22:15:29 348755 22mar2015 22:15:20 9 31486.3 |
117. | 349030 24mar2015 16:15:44 349029 24mar2015 16:14:29 75 12685.6 |
118. | 349081 24mar2015 22:48:20 349080 24mar2015 22:48:00 20 29962.1 |
119. | 349155 25mar2015 10:35:37 349154 25mar2015 10:34:54 43 28976.1 |
120. | 349243 25mar2015 23:18:19 349242 25mar2015 23:18:08 11 28426.8 |
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122. | 349294 26mar2015 06:50:01 349293 26mar2015 06:49:43 18 17775.2 |
123. | 349433 27mar2015 04:24:14 349432 27mar2015 04:24:04 10 28480.3 |
124. | 349646 28mar2015 12:22:18 349645 28mar2015 12:21:01 77 17047.2 |
125. | 349655 28mar2015 13:26:16 349654 28mar2015 13:25:24 52 23595 |
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126. | 349701 28mar2015 21:05:48 349700 28mar2015 21:05:37 11 12753 |
127. | 349739 29mar2015 02:58:24 349738 29mar2015 02:57:45 39 24469.1 |
128. | 349827 29mar2015 17:03:30 349826 29mar2015 17:02:30 60 14088.6 |
129. | 349835 29mar2015 18:24:59 349834 29mar2015 18:23:45 74 29787.1 |
130. | 350113 31mar2015 15:37:59 350112 31mar2015 15:37:10 49 23315.9 |
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131. | 350147 31mar2015 22:08:21 350146 31mar2015 22:08:10 11 15091.9 |
132. | 350621 04apr2015 02:06:09 350620 04apr2015 02:05:41 28 29668.3 |
133. | 350738 04apr2015 20:54:07 350737 04apr2015 20:53:10 57 26544.9 |
134. | 350925 06apr2015 03:24:34 350924 06apr2015 03:22:40 114 42591.9 |
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137. | 351401 09apr2015 15:33:06 351400 09apr2015 15:32:54 12 18198.9 |
138. | 351833 12apr2015 18:01:46 351832 12apr2015 18:01:14 32 12466.2 |
139. | 351871 13apr2015 01:52:04 351870 13apr2015 01:50:49 75 23559.5 |
140. | 352010 13apr2015 22:41:43 352009 13apr2015 22:41:14 29 23576.4 |
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142. | 352203 15apr2015 07:57:38 352202 15apr2015 07:56:12 86 24592.3 |
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1. How long will it take if I want to use transaction fees as I wish if the target I use is 2 MB from tip or how much time is required to process transaction per 1 MB using Mempool.
There are 2 things that will affect the waiting time of your transaction: - Mempool condition: will it remain stable or will it be loaded up more within short period?
- The likelihood of next found blocks: how long next blocks will be found?
1. If mempool condition is stable, first you are lucky because no more waiting transactions with higher fee rates load up and your waiting time will depend on the second factor. If mempool is loaded up more, your waiting time will be longer than initial expectation. 2. The average block time is 10 minutes but time interval between 2 blocks can be in seconds, or longer than 10 minutes. It depends and you can not control it. So I assumed mempool condition is almost stable, if the fee rate you use is 2 MB from the tip, that equals to 2 next blocks at the time you broadcast your transaction. The waiting time will be anywhere in between 1 or 2 minutes (rarely to see 2 new blocks are found within few seconds) to more than 20 minutes. |
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According to Dune Analytics, the trading volume at DEXs has fallen in the last 30 days by 40%. < ... > What do you think about this? I could be wrong but to assess the trading activities of crypto market or of exchanges (centralized or decentralized, for your specific analysis) you should do it with 3 analyses at least: - Trading volume in total number of cryptocurrency traded
- Trading volume in total amount of BTC traded
- Trading volume in total amount of USD or USDT traded
It can help you to have different measure algorithms and avoid impacts from pumps or dumps of altcoins or tokens (in BTC or USDT trading pairs). Less volume in BTC or in USDT does not mean less trading activities. Same amount of altcoins or tokens are traded at different periods with different price of those altcoins/ tokens in BTC or USDT pairs can cause less value in total traded in BTC or in USDT. Combine 3 analyses and get a whole picture will be better, I believe.
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Bumping because I think you should add Lauda's name to your list, as she was an upstanding member of the community and permanently left the forum a few days ago, erasing all avenues of coming back. For the legacy thread you can use Goodbye, world!. Thank your for this post. I knew about the Lauda case but forgot to add it here. It is a bad story and if you scan through the thread, Lauda is the first member left a reply here. I also quote my post in the "Goodbye, world" thread. OP will be updated soon. I did not know Lauda too much but read Lauda's posts sometimes and his/her advise in my threads. I heard of cat drama years ago but never spent my time to read all about the drama. Today, it is sad to see Lauda's goodbye thread. I know how difficult to abandon the forum especially after you have spent years here, as a member and as a moderator. To mark your abandonment, I took the screenshot for you. Newbies, years later, will aks questions like "Who is Lauda?" I wish you good health and good luck, Lauda. |
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About Bech32-address, it has upwards trend in count and value over last 3 years (plots show that trend -- see in median and interquartile range, the vertical line and box, respectively). Pay your attention on axis-scales that are different over 3 years. In 2018In 2019In 2020 (10 months) |
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We are now somewhere in between 2-3 Sat/vByte. Looks like in the last 8 hours, it wasn't the perfect time for 1 Sat/vByte transactions. There are constantly 15-20MB of unconfirmed 1 Sat/vByte transactions in the mempool. It looks like 2 Sats is the goal for today.
Currently, it is a matter of 2 fee rates: 1 and 2 satoshi(s)/ (v)byte. If Bitcoin price won't have big changes and won't cause panic, I expect to see mempool will be dipped to 1 satoshi/ (v)byte today, in next few hours. The matter is will mempool be completely cleared? Maybe or maybe not, I don't know (it is a game of luck). https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,8h
Update for 26 Oct 2020, 3:47 AM UTC. Mempool is clearer and you can get instant transaction within next 1 block at 2 satoshis/ (v)byte. I am expecting to see mempool will completely cleared for all current waiting transactions at 1 satoshi/(v)byte around next 2 hours. |
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Is it possible not to allow copper membership, jr.member to post in bounties altcoin section?
It is possible but it depends on the admin. From his moderation style, I don't think there will be more newbie jails or special restrictions on bounties (altcoins) subboards. Even the Copper membership is not a mandatory if you want to open your account, and run a project's announcement thread here. Admin wants to keep the forum as fair as possible for the rich and the poor, for the old- and new-generations. We are all treated equally here. The reputation in that section is already broken and the purpose of crowdfunding project has been defeated by people promoting scam and it is easy for them to do because they can get easy access in that section by using copper membership or jr.member rank with just 1 merit requirement and 30 activities for that rank and post their fake project.
You should call them as scam projects. The opposite of scam projects are good projects. - Fake >< Real
- Scam >< Non-scam and # than bad/ good
The world always has two sides in any aspect and we have to accept both two sides, leave with them, move forwards. What we must do is learn, practice and self-protect ourselves from scam projects, scammers. Additionally, scam is not moderated on the forum. Instead of reporting hundreds of them why not make it hard for them to make their scamming business?
I know it isn't about the rank but the scammers are using it for their advantage.
It does not make any sense because scammers can buy accounts and run their scam projects. Bought-accounts with rank at Full member and above look more trusted than Copper Member (with newbie rank) in the eyes of newbies. Consequently they might more easily to be scammed. I think at least we can rebuild the reputation of that area by not allowing them to post in that certain section.
Just let it be, I think. The scam detectives, trust, feedback, and flag and contributions from community are enough to beat scam projects down. Reputation for that sub-board is almost zero. If scammers run a scam project on the forum, it will be a matter of hours then scam detectives and forum's DT members will tag them (Red). The warning message for flag can help as well.
I checked and you already received answer in your another thread Is there any by chance that those who buy copper membership will be ask of their purpose before approving their request on buying copper membership? No. The forum administration doesn't want to decide who can or can't do things. Largely scam projects or failing projects are created by them. There should be a way for them to stop their doings. Educating people is the best way, scams aren't against forum rules and therefore not moderated.
theymos' opinion Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.
The low signal-to-noise is a real issue which seriously annoys me and is often on my mind. But as you mention, fixing it non-destructively is difficult.
Edit: It is possible but it depends on the admin. From his moderation style, I don't think there will be more newbie jails or special restrictions on bounties (altcoins) subboards.
I assume you're talking about Theymos Yes, you are right. I am talking about theymos' opinion. |
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