welcome First, if we are frauds, why did we complete your previous requests? - 1. By asking you what your id is on telegram or through your website 2. We have already not sent you any message to you via Telegram, but you are the one who sent a message to the fraudster and what proves this is a screenshot that you sent to us via WhatsApp and you did not put it here, but let us put it for you: https://ibb.co/R6TKGZq3. Because the e-mail on our site to receive customer inquiries 4. Because the scammer that you gave him all your information as shown in the previous screenshot has included it for us and told us to send me eth via this address and we did not do this to protect your money but we asked him to send this eth address to our email from the email in your order... Indeed, you implemented the fraudster's instructions and sent an eth address to our email 5. Because we have already processed the request and the doge coin wallet became under maintenance during the transfer and the currency was not sent to you and we proved this to you via a screenshot 6. Because at this time dogecoin wallet (binance) under maintenance 7. Because your order was purchased through the platform, and you could not wait to get your money back 8. Because you gave all your information to the fraudster, who spoke on your behalf, and how can we ask you to make a new order and you have already paid If you have not contacted over the telegram then how you understood the wallet address is of ethereum or any other erc20 wallet? If you are not scammer then why the provided email and email on your site is different? How many days latter you sent the eth to the (scammer though we think that is ok you), you did that several days latter, and on those days you could refund the perfect money. As you could not deliver dogecoin why you had taken too long time for the refund and on that too many days why you could not tell to place the re-order on your site? All the questions answer is you knew everything and you know the way how to make scam. |
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Someone was promoting this and I wonder if it's worth checking up for investing? Can someone say something about it? https://www.metainucoin.com/If you really think it is scam projecf then please check scam accusation format and post that format accordingly. If you are confused then it is time to investigate either it is scam project and/or they have any scam behavior or something like that. |
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bestchange always does a good job in solving problems related to customers.
They sent a message on the email. And sariful made replied accordingly and waiting for the better solution. Few questioned asked to bestchange. The exchanger's staff or admin did the scam. If they didn't then: 1. How does anyone know my telegram id? 2. Why have they contacted me over the telegram id? 3. Why did they provide the email which is not listed on their website? 4. Why will they send ethereum while I have not mentioned ethereum or any erc20 wallet in the email? 5. Why have they marked payment complete before payment is made? 6. Why have they not sent dogecoin which I have ordered? 7. Why have they not refunded my perfect money which I have sent to them? 8. Why will they consider only an address as valid for refund? They could tell me to re-order ethereum on their site but they never did that!! how do you know that BestChange did not investigate this case?
To let both of you know that bestchange started investigation. Don't you think that delisting is the first step in mediating to solve a problem?
Delisting is the first step to make the solution and hopefully think they will try to solve the case positively. |
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I was finally allowed to withdrawal AFTER I filed a police report with the Singapore Police Dept.
It is a great news that you have been finally enabled to withdraw fund from the exchanger but still it is bad as many users who invests on crypto might not be able to file a case on police station and also if the country is different of the exchange country then to file a case is almost impossible. And also if the amount is not too big then totally impossible to recover fund as the way you have been recovered. |
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Hi. You are a Hero Member and you should know how to create a Proper Scam Accusation.
Please follow the proper format of the Scam Accusation thread and don't forget to add some evidence that what are you claiming. As far as the balance still on your account, you are not gotten scammed yet. But, maybe there is the possibility to get scammed. you should show the community what they said regarding this matter.
Hero member doesn't mean knows everything about the forum and specially for the op may not know like others as there is a chance to be changed ownership of the account and also if you go through the posts of the op then you would be able to know that the post has been created only the number of posts. |
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Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co scammed me for 9500 usd by blocking my account right after I deposited another 10 xmr This is my account https://agoradesk.com/user/audyYou can see they add a message=reason inventing an excuse to steal my money, linking me to other profile who, I found out later, Alex admin of Localmonero had an argument with. As I see now LocalMonero admin decided to co er his loose on my account. If they do it over 9500 usd than this means they have no trading volume and profit and ready to take your money just like that. They will make it look like it is your fault or whatever. According to the comment on your profile as well as the chat with you I am not agree with you that they scammed you hence I think totally opposite. I think you are the scammer because you denied to verify your identity. You have to verify identity if the site is centralized and if they they you are doing any fraud. They found alternative account of you so they have right to verify the id is of you or someone else or you doing this type of activity to make fraud. |
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My presumption is that there is a third person here as an impersonator using a telegram.
Yes, I also think so and uniochange also mentioned that. I couldn't verify who sent first message on telegram as discussion has been deleted. But they encourage to contact with them out of their site which you can see from feedback on bestchange. We have switched off the exchanger UnioChange from our monitor BestChange.com for the time of investigation.
Thank you but you should have liability too who has a lot of complaints for delay service as well. Also, they mentioned automatic but their service is Manuel which you have not verified!!! It would be good if The UnioChange Paid at least 50% of it since they also managed it unprofessionally and they have mistakes. Also, OP should sacrifice your 50% because you did some mistakes.
Though the fund is not mine but I have talked with sariful and I told him that we should offer something like that before checking your post. we will certainly accept them and fix them
How long will you take for the decision? I mean, they are not the ones who "scammed" the victim. It's a case between the victim and Uniochange.
They are taking benefits from exchanger in this case the should verify those exchangers. A lot of complain happened and more important thing they claimed the exchnager is automatic but that is Manuel. |
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I think some form of the court be established to judge gambling fraud as this will allow the sites to clear their name in a case where players violate the rules or players get justice for criminal acts committed against them by gambling sites.
I am not sure but I think already should have law about this. Fraud means scam or something like that and that can happen on anything either gambling or non gambling. So, as for non gambling fraud will get punishment for the fraud gambling fraud will get punishment too. |
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That's not true , other feedback is about Him not letting withdrawal in His site as the Hot Wallet are empty and i believe this happens also in the past  this means dealing with him is not a good chance unless He changed for good . I am not agree with this feedback specially for the second part which is considered withdrawal issues. I have gone thorough the reference link and also the reference which is mentioned on the reference link and I have not found any complain on the reference regarding withdrawal issue. Would you like to go through the reference link and check the trust is real or there is something mis-leading?? |
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He loses his reputation for not keeping his promises he has a lot of red tags and neutral tags already coming from trusted members of this forum, now if there are new complaints coming there will be a flag created for this, his action is still tolerable as long as players can withdraw their money and there's no complaint coming he is still ok, but the two projects are now vulnerable because of Lighlord inactivity and failure to address some issues.
There is no problem on the users who are gambling on there and no feedback against any complaint regarding the deposit/withdrawals or playing on the site. Those feedback stands for late payment. If they run their campaign again then a lot of users on the forum will reapply as there had not happened any types of scam on the project. |
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Would you like to tell the rate per hour or rate per month? What will be the schedule for the work? Will you make 3 shift or only 1 shift will continue? Also, it will be good if you can tell details of the project sothat we can get more clear idea of the project before applying on your project?
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I have 5000$ balance in Spot, and I have 12000 Dogecoin frozen (3000$), but I can't withdraw 100$, Should I buy Dogecoin?
When you will go to withdraw you will see a function called "Deduct now". If you click on deduct now they will deduct the amount which has been resent. Alternatively you can buy the same amount of Dogecoin to enable the withdraw. Note: As further as I know those amount will be deduct permanently. If you have no access of the resent amount then wait for the solution by Binance why you will pay them 3000$ without any reason? |
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The user has already deleted previous conversations in Telegram
Message has been deleted by the uniochange exchange representative from telegram. They asked to send that as verification. So never told which address it is either ethereum or erc20 or something else. Okay. I got my answer. You provided this ( 0x4c15B9B6E6177f20E745254758ed84b3e33a447E ) address but didn't tell him that is ETH or USDT or anything else. Right? You are right. If from email mentioned ethereum then it could be okay. But never told that. If you (OP, or whoever you already represent here) did not request payment in ethereum, how the exchanger knows what your eth address is?
Is it 0x4c15B9B6E6177f20E745254758ed84b3e33a447E really belongs to you, I mean do you have access to funds on there?
if that entire amount still remains in your possession, this case cannot be characterized as fraud.
something completely different if they behaved unprofessionally and if they have caused you many complications during one round of exchange.
On telegram they have mentioned to send that address as a code which they have own. As a result we have no access of the fund. This case is not for unprofessional though the comment on bestchange about them is very unprofessional. This case is stands for fraud. OP, Then Why Don't you mention What address is that?
How to told it is eth or something else? The address is themselves and told to send the address via email to proof the ownership. It is their address and they know it is ethereum adress. It is common sense that there is communication on whatsapp as well as email then why they rely on telegram. Also, why they will send something which is not sent as well as which is not ordered? |
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Service 1: I can send dm's to any group members, i scrape "recently seen" members, so dms will go the the active people. I send video proofs with it. Service 2 : I can add any group members to tour groups. i scrape "recently seen" members, so active people will be added to the groups. I use spam filters, and I know telegrams daily limits, so no risky with me. Prices: 1000 dm: 100$ 1000 members: 70$ My previous group and references: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344928.0Fast contact: https://t.me/mindcoderIt is a great service while you will add 1000 people who are not aware about the group where you will add also majority of the account holder will not be interested of the service but those are spam free!!!! How it is possible all you will do is spam, nothing else? Also, sending pm to 1000 people who is unaware about the service cant be out of spam. If it happens to me then I usually click on mark spam and delete. |
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The user has already deleted previous conversations in Telegram
Let me explain to you that the user has proven that he sent this email so don't tell me it's a fake email because the user has proven it from his words you can check it
On telegram you have told to send that as code as a result on the email just sent that never told you to send ethereum or any erc20 address. You are just scamming by using telegram.
Question to you. That's mean you send him that address?
And you are only asking about how he got it this is an ETH address?
They asked to send that as verification. So never told which address it is either ethereum or erc20 or something else. How did you guys end up communicating through telegram, yet you were already doing it using email?
Without the screenshot of you asking him to send you an Ether address for a refund. It will be hard to prove who is a scammer and who is not
It is not only difficult but also impossible to prove now who is the real scammer. But as there is conversation on email why they will rely on scam technique telegram. And on email why not asked details? they told only to send the address as code nothing else. I have seen those text as I went to the house of the person who has been scammed. |
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If we are frauds, why did we complete the previous orders of the customer? Also, if we are frauds, why waste our time defending ourselves? Attached is a link showing a video of the customer's email https://streamable.com/kn184fYou are alive today that doesn't mean you will alive until the destruction of the universe. There are a lot of site who made scam finally but before that they were legit site too. For example the problem of binance happen recently but not happened before. Also, I can ask you the same question. If you are legit then why you have not been accused earlier but you have been accused now? |
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asked via telegram to send him eth in exchange for doge
On telegram you have told to send the address as a code to verify the ownership. From email never told you to send ethereum/usdt/ethreum classic/vidt or any other erc20 base coin. So, how you decided that the address stands for ethereum or something else? You have just tried to make the scam as legal via telegram. |
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I've Opposed the Flag because this is incorrect use of the Trust Flag system. Only the victim can create type 2 or 3 Flags:
It is not the fact either you support or oppose as I have nothing to lose anymore by the uniochange. I have created the flag as I have same credentials who has been affected. And I can check the wallet of dogecoin/perfectmoney/uniochange also gmail id. Also the original owner is not familiar with bitcointalk. As I have all information same as the affected person what is the difference cant imagine. And also for your kind information almost all the comment on bestchange done by me. |
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From all the info you provided. I think They are scamming nothing else. Since Saiful Asked them to provide the proof "where he said to pay him in ETH?"
The Uniochange have no answer but they repeating the same message as like a chatBot. If Uniochange has a BTT profile, you should create a flag. I hope DT members will support the flag.
Also, BestChange cannot avoid liability for this transaction since they listed Uniochange. BestChange is the largest and trusted exchanger Toplist provider. They should handle it.
Thanks
Yes, they are just saying same thing but couldn't sent any proof and the order marked as complete but never sent it. I have still don't know either they have any profile on the forum or not. You are right that bestchange cannot avoid the liability. I have sent a pm of bestchange on the forum as well as on the website. So, need to observe which action they are taking. Uniochange mentioned they have 24/7 operations but from the comment on bestchange it is clear that they are operating manually.  But it is manual:  Edit: I have found profile and created a flag. I have added the flag on the op. |
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