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4361  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion]Solving the spam problem with a "Report Score" for bad rapports. on: July 07, 2018, 07:26:58 AM
Are you going to fix the title or what? rapports facking lol. how many times are you going to suggest things about reporting etc?

Thanks man for correcting me, forgot to change from Norwegian to English while I'm on the phone, so autocorrect is not helping. I love reading your trolly work Wink.
As you said, I do what I can to help the forum.
Btw, I'm faaaar from being top reporter but I'm tired of all those meaningless commets as everyone else.

4362  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion]Solving the spam problem with a "Report Score" for bad rapports. on: July 06, 2018, 11:04:16 PM
The whole idea is to discourage the spamers. I know that they "work" hard here and they won't give up that easily but it might work.
4363  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: July 06, 2018, 12:18:40 PM
i am very bad in english ... i know to read but to write is hard for me  i can't help people xD

Try your local board then,maybe you get a better chance, and just a friendly advice - take away what you have in your signature, you don't want trouble.

Edited: My bad. Learned new thing today Wink
Listen to TheQuin
That's good advice about using the local boards. Also, try and improve your English, it will help in many aspects of life. There's nothing wrong with that signature, you are allowed to advertise your referral links there, but not to put them in posts.
4364  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE] 56th JUST BECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD BITCOIN COIN on: July 06, 2018, 10:47:02 AM
Hello Smiley
Great coin again, trow it my way, jk:)

1 - iasenko
4365  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: July 06, 2018, 08:34:23 AM
Talking about merit sources, there is one more from today(?)
Congrats to whoever got elected Smiley
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There are 82 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18900 sMerit per 30 days
4366  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: July 06, 2018, 06:55:07 AM
Where can I see my sent/received merit that I had sent/received before 120 days?
There must be some place where the records must have been stored. Eh?
There are many "tools" to check it, as the forum does store the information only for the last 120 days, follow this link > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4444830.0
4367  Other / Meta / Re: Idea: Courses on: July 06, 2018, 06:48:33 AM
Regarding the existing online courses I can suggest EDX1 as a platform.
Just to add here that edx is free2 platform for online education and certification provided by the world leading universities and organisations like MIT, Boston university, Linux Foundation etc.
Most of the courses are free, you pay only for certificate /world wide accepted/ if you want one.

Course: Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies
Institution: University of California, Berkeley
Info:
Quote
Learn the fundamentals of Bitcoin and the Cryptocurrency space, including the basics of smart contracts, the Ethereum platform and how to build decentralized applications.

Course: Blockchain: Understanding Its Uses and Implications
Institution:The Linux Foundation
Info:
Quote
Understand exactly what a blockchain is, its impact and potential for change around the world, and analyze use cases in technology, business, and enterprise products and institutions.

Course: Blockchain and FinTech: Basics, Applications, and Limitations
Institution:University of Hong Kong Logo
Info:
Quote
Understand the design rationale of blockchain technology, its emerging platforms and applications and uncover the limitations and the opportunities enabled by blockchain applications, particularly as it relates to finance.

 Course:Blockchain Technology
Institution:University of California, Berkeley
Info:
Quote
Learn the fundamentals of blockchain technology and how it will power the economy of tomorrow.


1 I do not advertise the mentioned above website, I just want to share my experience with you. If you feel that is not acceptable,I'll just delete my post.

2 With "free" I mean you have access almost all the courses and at the end you can decide by yourself if you want to pay for certificate or not. There are some professional courses where you have to pay to enroll like this one, but still it is a good opportunity.

4368  Other / Meta / Re: VOTE PLEASE > [Request]Use of Homographs to be forbidden. on: July 05, 2018, 07:47:40 PM

There is no problem in detecting them but reporting them. Let me explain.
Using only homographs is no rule-breaking, the problem is that those who use this technique are trying to hide copy-pasting.
You could argue it's not English, which isn't allowed on the English boards, but it's a bit far fetched.

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I just want to add the homographs to the rules, because using them is no beneficial for the forum at all.
Doing so, you can directly report the homographs and skip the plagiarism part.
Since there is no legitimate use for it, they should just be banned. It's clearly abuse.

I gave up looking for them though, because I can't see which accounts are banned already.

I have around 50 hompgraph reports hanging as unhandled for more than a month now and I stopped reporting them. Not enough time to waste on listing them on my rule-breakers list, so I'll push this thread a bit until we have a clear solution to the hompgraph problem.
Actually I don't see so many now, just 30-40 per day max, before they were like a few pages in the search results.

Bump, another 20-ish for the past day. I'll start reporting them as soon as they are forbidden.


Bump.I have reported already a few from today, lets see what the mods will do.
4369  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion] Mark posts/threads as reported on: July 05, 2018, 07:41:19 PM
We had this discussion some months ago:
Indicator for "marked as reported" in the forum
4370  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: One (1) Merit point to Rank-up Service, READ THE RULES BEFORE YOU APPLY!! on: July 05, 2018, 07:14:19 PM
-snip-
If you read carefully the OP you will see that there is nothing written about the activity so, it's OK to apply. Well, now you have enough merit for to be a Member but you have a long way to reach the required activity for it. You have quite short post history but it's a good content. I haven't check for plagiarism, I'm gonna do it when I get to a PC but for now I'm satisfied with what I saw. I cannot determine at the moment if you are genuine newbie or an alt account. Hope to see more posts from you in the future.
4371  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion]Solving the spam problem with a "Report Score" for bad rapports. on: July 05, 2018, 11:14:29 AM
Another little feature I would suggest is to let a timeframe play a role. Crappy posters that are often reported will soon enough encounter all the punishments rules set to counterbalance their acts, but as time goes by, so can they/some/one amend.
I’m thinking specifically of the signature that automatically gets turned off. It could be automatically turned back on (with a blank value) if no more reports of a kind are marked as valid in a given windows timeframe (or the moving running total that triggers events is counted within a certain window timeframe).

P.D. Congrats on becoming a "Sir Member" "Sr. Member"!


I was thinking about the time-frame too, but this is up to Theymos to decide if he actually like the whole idea.
There is a plenty room for tweaking and development here. It's just a way to use the already existing system instead a build one from scratch.

Thank you, few months ago I never thought that I would rank up again this year but .. now it's time to change my avatar Smiley
4372  Other / Meta / Re: Feasibility "Merit" on Bitcointalk. on: July 05, 2018, 11:07:22 AM
Well it's not a Who Wants To Be A Millionaire game here. You cannot call a freind for help to give you some free merit you know. Well, technically you can but you gonna get a big fat RED tag, as soon as THEY find out about it.
So, back on the main topic, you are saying that you cannot rank up because of the merit.. well I need only 2 points now to get to Sr.Member , not that I care. It does't change anything for me, but to say that it is impossible to rank up, you are wrong, and I don't see any Lengedaries blocking the way up as some part of them are now merit sources. There are many good newbie examples around here who showed a lot of devotion to the forum.
4373  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [DAILY FREE RAFFLE] 55th JUST BECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD RIPPLE COIN on: July 05, 2018, 10:49:27 AM
Hey man, lets make it tradition here,
I'll take 1 Smiley
1- iasenko
4374  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: One (1) Merit point to Rank-up Service, READ THE RULES BEFORE YOU APPLY!! on: July 05, 2018, 10:32:03 AM
Congrats in advance you are going to Sr. Member soon  Grin . Just need 6 merit more  Wink . I don't have enough otherwise  I would like to send Cry  ( Just joke).  Because you are one of member that help forum and member's.  Hope some one will help you. BTW we are family here to help each other. Keep it up.

Thank you, but don't worry, I'm not so in hurry to rank up. The only thing to achieve here is to update my avatar so whatever happens, happens.
4375  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion]Solving the spam problem with a "Report Score" for bad rapports. on: July 05, 2018, 10:18:06 AM
Deleted posts doesn't mean that they were reported. I often write in bad threads just to note the OP that the thread is reported and it will be removed, so I aslo get a lot of my posts deleted. Same as deleting spammy mega-threads won't affect your score if you have some posts deleted, because nobody reported your post personally. 
The idea is that the users themselves will be responsible to report the spammers, this will help to build a better community.

4376  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion]Solving the spam problem with a "Report Score" for bad rapports. on: July 05, 2018, 09:12:29 AM
I like the idea but I'd suggest one little tweak. The score should be proportional to the number of posts made. Someone that's been here for years and made thousands of posts is almost bound to have had a few deleted. So someone with 10 deleted posts out of 5000 isn't as bad as someone with 10 deleted posts out of 50.

Yes I was thinking about it too but to have a different weight base on the Rank, now that you mention it I like your suggestion too, I will add it to the OP.

Not bad. I certainly like the idea but like one of it's cons which is "More work for the Mods" there is a conflict that they will agree on this. Moderators are having bad times busting spammers everyday and I'm sure that they're pretty busy in other stuffs, I don't think they can still manage to do this task, but who knows? ~

Well they don't have to do anything, I was thinking about the report page, when the new changes come, as Welsh suggested, to have drop down menu with choosing what to report, then the system automatically will mark it as as Spam , Plagiarism, Homographs etc. and it will reward the points based on the reports.
The more work will come from the more reports that gonna come, as many people here are tired of spam will start reporting more often when they see that there is an impact on the spammers.
4377  Other / Meta / [Suggestion]Solving the spam problem with a "Report Score" for bad reports. on: July 05, 2018, 08:49:07 AM
Here is my idea how to deal with the spammers with a very easy approach. It's just a quick scratch up.

We already have a working "Report to Mods" system and all the stats we have now are only informative, lets put those stats into work.
In addition to Merit and Trust, we can have a new measure - "Report score" /I can't come with a better name/.

Report score is a calculation of the activity, merit, post count and the amount of bad reports you have received when somebody reported you. - For example if your post have been reported for spamming, and the Mods delete it, then you get 1 bad report. The calculation is based on this formula:

Code:
report_score= (((activity*1,2)+(airdrop_merit*1,1)+(received_merit*10)+(post_count*0,5))/bad_reports);

Normal score should be considers above 10.

If you have score below 10, the signatures can automatically be turned off.
Different penalties can be added based on the score.

The pros of this system are>
  • Easy to implement.
  • We already have the data of the reports
  • Your reports will matter and your time reporting is not wasted
  • It will be easy to spot spambots
  • No way to cheat the system as it is controlled by the mods
  • It can be tweaked in the future,
  • More people will start reporting
  • Eeasier for the bounty managers to spot spammers
  • Less spam and better content, more people will be aware of the rules and follow them

Cons >
  • Can be abused by the Mods/ not so easy of course/
  • More work for the mods Wink

@ Theymos, this system does not affect the freedom you are trying to maintain in the forum. All those reports and bans are already happening, just use them as a tool the help the others.

Basically I change my concept a bit and we can say that it's a bit more accurate now. It can be readjusted of course, this is just a proposal I came up with a few months ago.
The score doesn't need to have actual impact on the profiles, can be only informative.
All the information is in the code.
Don't judge my programming skills, I'm not a programmer but I get the things done when I need to.
Code:
// Calculating your reports score
// Everything below 10 should be considers as a bad score.

#include <iostream>
#include <iomanip>
using namespace std;
int main()
{
int activity; // The current activity. The higher activity you have the better is the score
int airdrop_merit; // The airdropped merit, again more airdropped merit is better.
int received_merit; // This is the merit you actually received, I put a more weight on it as it is the most reliable measure.  
int post_count; // Here is your post count, less weight on as I don't think it is that important, can change it to ratio between activity and post count.
int bad_reports; // Those are your posts reported by others and deleted by moderator, I can include the Deleted topics too but I have to think a bit more on it.
float report_score; // This is the report score, as I see it everything above 10 should be marked as normal.


cout << "\n"<< "----------------------------"<< "\n";
cout << "Calculating a report score"<< "\n";
cout << "-----------------------------"<< "\n";
cout << "Enter activity: ";
cin >> activity;
cout << "Enter airdroped merit: ";
cin >> airdrop_merit;
cout << "Enter received merit: ";
cin >> received_merit;
cout << "Enter post count: ";
cin >> post_count;
cout << "Enter bad_reports: ";
cin >> bad_reports;
report_score= (((activity*1.2)+(airdrop_merit*1.1)+(received_merit*10)+(post_count*0.5))/bad_reports);
cout << fixed;
        cout << setprecision(2);
cout << "Your bad report score is :" << report_score;
cout<<"\n";

return main();
}

Everyone can test the code here > http://cpp.sh/8hvk6 the deleted posts by mods you can find in Vod's https://bpip.org/ project.

Updated the formula.

THE OLD POST
Here is my idea how to deal with the spammers with a very easy approach. It's just a quick scratch up.

We already have a working "Report to Mods" system and all the stats we have now are only informative, lets put those stats into work.
In addition to Merit and Trust, we can have a new measure - "Report score" /I can't come with a better name/.

Report score is the amount of bad reports you have received when somebody reported you. - For example if your post have been reported for spamming, and the Mods mark it as a "good", then you get one negative point.
Those points are just for example
If you have 3 negative points, the signatures are automatically turned off.
If you have 10 negative points you are automatically banned.
For the every rule you can have a different weight like for plagiarism you get directly 3 points, and autoban for 7 days / OK permaban/. Those are just example values can be adjusted, the principle is important.
Also the pointing system can be Rank or post-count-dependent like for instance  3 bad reports for a Legendary with 10000 posts  compared to 3 bad reports for a Newbie with 50 posts, need to have different Weight.

The pros of this system are>
  • Easy to implement.
  • We already have the data of the reports
  • Your reports will matter and your time reporting is not wasted
  • It will be easy to spot spambots
  • No way to cheat the system as it is controlled by the mods
  • It can be tweaked in the future,
  • More people will start reporting
  • Eeasier for the bounty managers to spot spammers
  • Less spam and better content, more people will be aware of the rules and follow them

Cons >
  • Can be abused by the Mods/ not so easy of course/
  • More work for the mods Wink

@ Theymos, this system does not affect the freedom you are trying to maintain in the forum. All those reports and bans are already happening, just use them as a tool the help the others.
4378  Other / Meta / Re: TradeFortress is back?! on: July 05, 2018, 07:38:27 AM
OK, I somehow missed this. Locking this topic.
4379  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie and all member's should visit 3 board at least once a day. See more.... on: July 05, 2018, 07:15:55 AM
Well, not all members.
For example in the mining section many people still don't know that there is a merit system because they are not here to spam the forum and rank-up but to discuss and troubleshoot problems. So they have no interest using all the 3 boards.
4380  Other / Meta / TradeFortress is back?! Refunding CoinLenders. on: July 05, 2018, 06:56:53 AM
His/? last activity was in the meta section giving some merit.
Last time I checked this profile If I remember it wasn't used for a while.


Update, a quote from mdayonliner >

~
You might want to read this topic he created: CoinLenders depositors: Reimbursement available (please read!)
~



Last time check in april shows that the account wanst active from 2016.

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