Hah, so this is what Noodle was talking about when he asked who turned on the botnet for BCN.  |
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For people wanting to figure out how many blocks they'll get per day:
- Divide difficulty by 60 to get H/s of the network, eg 300,000 / 60 = 5000 H/s
- Divide your H/s by this, eg 10 H/s / 5000 H/s = 0.002
- Multiply this by the number of blocks per day (24 * 60) to get your per day block probability, eg 0.002 * 24 * 60 = 2.88 blocks per day.
And multiply blocks by 17.59 to get the number of coins. |
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Dump incoming.
Classic ymer This must hurt for him.  |
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Spekulatius, a new thread was created because there were no mods around to move the previous one. If it looks like stuff happens all of a sudden without any indication on these threads, it's because there was discussion on the freenode channels #bitmonero or #monero. Currently the devs (which is ill-defined but roughly includes thankful_for_today, tacotime, and smooth) are thinking about a different solution than changing the emission schedule to solve the eventual mining income problem (~8 years out). You can actually put in a vote through the bot in the freenode channel on what you think they should do.
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What implication's does DarkWallkets (a anon. bitcoin wallet) upcoming release have for darkcoin?
What makes DRK stand out vs. BTC used in darkwallet?
What are the technical differences?
DarkWallket is not decentralized as far as I understand, and does nothing for the potential colored coins issue. I think it was noted before that Dark Wallet seems to route all traffic through a certain address. However, I've seen it being described as "trustless mixing". Both can't be true. Even if stealing is impossible in this scheme, logs can be kept. |
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I would also like to know this, but preferably not have to download blockchain on the mining computers, just have them connect to a host. Is this possible? In the daemon (not wallet) type: start_mining <address> <number of threads> You don't need to launch the wallet on these other computers and definitely don't do start_mining through the wallet terminal. The daemon will download the blockchain, though. To have what you're talking about (something like cgminer), we need to use simpleminer, which is an included executable. However, there's no pool yet so it's not yet usable. |
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Actually coming from Unix/Linux I don't mind command line applications, but at least the documentation should be correct and the script posted in the Windows tutorial does NOT work.
Doing everything by hand (like in the Linux tutorial) works, so thanks for your help.
Actually, all that batch file does is open the terminals with the arguments so that's probably not it. I've had the same issue (daemon closes instantly, wallet complains that it can't connect to daemon) and it turned out to be corrupted blockchain data (checked the logs). I fixed it by deleting the blockchain and resyncing. I'd like to know if the Windows .bat script does/doesn't work for others, though. It's fine for me on 7. |
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ninja launch with new algo
meh...
If by ninja-launch you mean pre-announced, sure. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.0I don't know what to tell you smooth. Yes, the situation is not ideal, but tonight we're at 315k on the network.
The miners are speaking. Bytecoin is at 1.7 million now. The miners are speaking but what are they saying exactly? Hard to say. Both are at all time highs, which can only be good for CN. |
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 This is what Wave 2 corrections look and feel like at their worst...morale seems low or dwindling (even in the face of upcoming KNC promo and the CoinKite launch) and trolls are rampant. Luckily, we no longer have ANY high volume markers which need re-testing below us, the only high volume re-test anywhere is now up at 94k. So essentially the major sellers who continually freaked out and drove down price sporadically are gone and the only thing left is for buyers (new or existing) to come into BlackCoin. This is what a low-in-process looks like, folks. "Buy". JL "Wave 2 corrections"? My analysis disagrees. It's definitely a Super Quantum Fibonacci Wave 5000 Rising Triangle Correction-Correction. I love this technical analysis voodoo.  |
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I have no clue, they had some kind of press release and the english section has the Darkcoin logo... at some point they must have thought about it? https://i.imgur.com/X00MtKM.pngThey (and BTER) had polls in this forum and DRK did pretty well so they did think about it, but decided not to. As the website says, we have to make noise on their forums to get DRK listed. It would help if we had Chinese translations of the website and the OP of this thread. We need an active mirror of this thread in the Chinese alt announcements section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=118.0 |
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Well, the Chinese government has forbidden exchanges in fiat, so that disrupted everything.
No, it just forced all Chinese banks to close accounts that are used to operate virtual currency websites. It also banned them from processing payments in BTC back in December. |
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I just tweeted to BTC-E about getting Darkcoin added to their exchange, if everyone here can retweet and/or respond asking for the same maybe we can get it on there....
I think if we can get on BTC-E it will at least double in price in a day....
Retweeted and tweeted myself. And what's up with BTC38, we were on it and it never opened? http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=drkthis page, there for a month or something, not opened, not on the side anywhere... DRK was never on BTC38. Go to the Chinese version: http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=DRKIt says "Sorry, we don't do DRK/CNY trading. If you want us to open this pair, please comment on the forum and we will consider it." |
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why the price go up so fast,is there somethings good news released?
Press releases and getting closer to the official release of DarkSend. Also, plain old crypto-speculation. |
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Hexacore i7 4930k
or am I getting 8.5ish in total ?
It's the total from all threads. Here's a mining hardware comparison for this algorithm: https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparisonAlso note that the hash rate ramps up over a few minutes. A 4930K gets 9.6 H/s according to that page. |
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Edit : from 11 days behind now 10 days behind, this is going to take a while heheh
By the way, this is a bug (the estimate is double the actual time). This coin was launched on April 18, which you can check on the blockchain timestamps after synchornizing. |
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My personal opinion is that I will abandon the fork if merge mining is added. And then we can discuss a new fork. Until then I don't think Monero will be taken over by another fork.
Ditto on this. If the intention wasn't to provide a clearweb launched alternative to BCN, then I don't see a reason for this fork to exist. BCN is competition and miners should make a choice. |
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That said, you yourself have previously outlined why relaunches and further clones fail. I'd rather stick with this one and fix it.
Except that this is a relaunch and clone already. It's starting with two strikes against it on that basis alone. Add the other issues I outlined, and it is very questionable whether it can succeed, unless of course its intended goal is not to succeed on its own, but to poison the well against other bytecoin clones. Who would have the incentive to do that? Follow the money. It was gaining on BCN in diff within a relatively short time, so it seems it was on target (currently 280k = 560k in BCN). Will that change with a relaunch of a relaunch that has a website, GUI, and Mac binaries? Only one way to find out: someone get on it. It'd be especially interesting if this new coin was late enough that taco already had a GUI for MRO. I don't know how that would go, but I have a guess. What need help with? I know webpage but limited with other programming skills You can contact David Latapie. He was asking for help with this. |
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That said, you yourself have previously outlined why relaunches and further clones fail. I'd rather stick with this one and fix it.
Except that this is a relaunch and clone already. It's starting with two strikes against it on that basis alone. Add the other issues I outlined, and it is very questionable whether it can succeed, unless of course its intended goal is not to succeed on its own, but to poison the well against other bytecoin clones. Who would have the incentive to do that? Follow the money. It was gaining on BCN in diff within a relatively short time, so it seems it was on target (currently 280k = 560k in BCN). Will that change with a relaunch of a relaunch that has a website, GUI, and Mac binaries? Only one way to find out: someone get on it. It'd be especially interesting if this new coin was late enough that taco already had a GUI for MRO. I don't know how that would go, but I have a guess. |
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I don't think the proposed reward curve is bad by any means. I do think it is bad to change the overall intent of a coin's structure and being close to bitcoins reward curve was a bit part of the intent of this coin. It was launched in response to the observation that bytecoin was 80% mined in less than two years (too fast) and also that it was ninja premined, with a stated goal that the new coin have a reward curve close to bitcoin.
At this point I'm pretty much willing to throw in the towel on this launch:
1. No GUI
2. No web site
3. Botched reward curve (at least botched relative to stated intent)
4. No pool (and people who are enthusiastically trying to mine having trouble getting any blocks; some of them have probably given up and moved on).
5. No effective team behind it at launch
6. No Mac binaries (I don't think this is all that big a deal, but its another nail)
I thought this could be fixed but with all the confusion and lack of clear direction or any consistent vision, now I'm not so sure.
I also believe that merged mining is basically a disaster for this coin, and is probably being quietly promoted by the ninjas holding 80% of bytecoin, because they know it keeps their coin from being left behind, and by virtue of first mover advantage, probably relegates any successors to effective irrelevance (like namecoin, etc.).
We can do better. It's probably time to just do better.
The website does exist now, it's just not particularly informative yet.  But, I agree that thankful_for_today has severely mislead everyone by stating the emission was "close to Bitcoin's" (if he's denying that /2 rather than /4 emission schedule was unintentional, as he seems to be). I'm also against BCN merge mining. It works against the goal of overtaking BCN and if that's not a goal, I don't know what we're even doing here. I'll dedicate my meagre mining to voting against that. That said, you yourself have previously outlined why relaunches and further clones fail. I'd rather stick with this one and fix it. |
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Is there any way to see current hash rate of whole network. I tested on my laptop it show i have 0.5 - 0.6 (Hash/s or KHash/s  ?). I guess i can't be a miner  Divide the difficulty by 60 to get network hashrate. It's H/s not kH/s (this algo is tough on computers). It also ramps up over a few minutes so you might go higher. |
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