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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [AUCTION] 100 Bitmonero BMR new anonymous coin cryptonote-based on: April 20, 2014, 03:23:26 AM
Bidding 0.001 BTC.
Bidding 0.0015 BTC

0.005
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 20, 2014, 03:09:31 AM
I'd also recommend making the title more attention-grabbing. At a minimum add "fully anonymous" to the title:

[ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new fully anonymous coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED

Or more techy:

[ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin using ring signatures for full anonymity (based on CryptoNote technology) - LAUNCHED
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [AUCTION] 100 Bitmonero BMR new anonymous coin cryptonote-based on: April 20, 2014, 01:56:45 AM
Bidding 0.001 BTC.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 20, 2014, 01:54:09 AM
Auctioning 100 BMR minimum bid 0.001 btc

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577296


Interesting way to discover the price, if anyone bids. But the first post is not really informative so I think you should explain the coin in the auction itself. We keep using phrases like "based on CryptoNote technology" but the vast majority aren't going to bother looking up what that means. Which is a shame because this is not a BTC fork and deserves more attention.

On a related note, this topic's first post should also be more informative. Links to BCN or the CrpytoNote website should be secondary to explaining everything right here (including the ring signatures). Most people don't have the initiative to do 5 minutes of research.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 20, 2014, 01:11:01 AM
I happened to just find a block and it looks to be about the same amount as previously (~17.5 BMR).

The changes (maybe) affect the transaction fees, not the block reward.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 09:42:37 PM
You changed a lot of the code. What are the consequences? Previously the tx's were sorted more thoroughly.

2 changed files with 14 additions and 47 deletions. I hope that nothing bad can happen. But we have to be careful Wink

I wasn't implying the changes were dangerous, but I was wondering how mining fees changed quantitatively (I think that's what the removed code affects?).
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 09:23:47 PM
You changed a lot of the code. What are the consequences? Previously the tx's were sorted more thoroughly.
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: April 19, 2014, 09:16:56 PM
I would like to submit my branding proposal as well as my analysis of the current situation for DARKCOIN. I wanted to drop a word to the developpers but I will finally post on the thread.

CLICK http://silver47.eu/indexdark.html

Please note:

- The page displays great on IPAD but needs to be fixed for smartphones.
- I do not have outstanding photoshop skills. I'm a manager. Be kind !
- I'm still working on it. Say it's 80% complete.
- I'd like to start a wallet card production. The one you'll see on the page.

I saw a few users talking about DRK branding. I do not think the actual design looks so bad but I agree it should be somewhat refined. As a professional I wish I could help the Darkcoin startup to succeed.

Marketing is often reduced to publicity and advertising. Yet marketing is a much deeper and complex discipline. The first step for any group or brand is to refine their position as much as possible. This is called positioning. Positioning is kind of a social science where sociology and psychological data must be combined in order to find the best position and penetrate the public. Every detail has to be think about. No matter how good is a product in terms of quality/features/techniques, if the positionning is bad/wrong then your chances of success will be most likely compromised. You wouldn't your tree to grow at a slant.

Let's take an example with Dogecoin. Cute meme + Comic MS font + Humor and optimism. And wow. Dogecoin naturally found his public. Let's say mostly 15 - 25 years old, belonging to the internet generation and feeling at ease with everything related to computers. That was the perfect position. DOGECOIN developper Jackson Palmer just created something for people who looked like him and they are tens of millions out there. Dogecoin could really become a giant if no critical errors are made from the devs.

Now everyone supporting DRK need to remember Dogecoin do not have any special feature. The most advanced and performant do not necessarily win the game. That's the deal. This is exactly why department stores are full of junk. Bad for the environnement. Bad for health. But still much profit. Those companies are investing big money into marketing. They'll use the science of behaviorism. They'll end knowing the average man better than he knows himself. They will use the right word, the right color, the cutest mascot for your kids. Marketing strategies if unscrupulous are a powerful weapon of mass control. Contemporary marketing as used by big companies isn't much different from war propaganda.

Right now many altcoin startups are runned by good coders and informaticians. Even professionals for some of them. But when it comes to selling their products they lack so much of common sense. This is not meant to be contemptuous as it is hard to excel in every discipline. I am myself not very tech-friendly and never mined a single coin. I'm running windows 8 on my PC. Fair enough ! Enough talking and let's take a look at DARKCOIN.


What elements currently makes Darkcoin identity ?

First Darkcoin do have an unconventionnal and rebellious side. The currency name as well as anonymity feature plays a big role in that.

Secondly Darkcoin can be characterized by its low total coin supply. 22 millions of coins suggest that Darkcoin could become very high priced. This is for people like me who think that Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will become mainstream sooner or later and change the world as we know it.

Refining the current position :

The current DARKCOIN position is interesting but need to be soften in order to convince more ordinary users to join the party. Darkcoin still look very obscure and DARK oriented. Let's open the COIN side a bit more. The visual identity of Darkcoin should respectively reflect those two sides. Being Dark and mainstream in the same time is what we should target, as we logically need to aim as large as possible.

Also, take in consideration the following : Having a sophisticated coin is great and we currently are on top of our own segment, but do not put all your hopes on this single aspect. This world is running fast and another more technically advanced coin could emerge. The risk of being outdated is very high. For example, anonymity could become a pretty common feature in the future. For this reason we have to stay welcoming and polyvalent.

From now, what public are we aiming ?

I think we mainly have two profiles of users here :

First, there's the one which is primarily caring about the anonymous aspect. No matter the reason, may be ideological (freedom activist, ...) or more practical (buying drugs, nuclear bombs, whatever). This is not our business. For them, let's say the use of Darkcoin is more related to the "DARK" part.

Since this is the only cryptocurrency having this feature now, those people can be taken for granted.
 
Secondly, there is the one which are not caring that much about privacy but will look at Darksend as a good feature. These people can be the typical users of most of the cryptos out there. For those ones, we have to attract them with a good packaging. There's no secret. We have to look the best and show a lot of activity. From this point of view we must compete with the other regular altcoins in the crypto-scene.

To summarize what have been said above :

- The "DARK SIDE" is naturally part of our identity. Yet we do not know how long anonymity will be an exclusive feature to Darkcoin.
- Darkcoin must remain welcoming and attractive to everyone.
- Being expensive will lead Darkcoin to become a store of value and a medium for high priced transactions.


This is for the basis of our position. Now the design part need to be made in accordance.


LOGO

I think the current D symbol is genuine. The oblique bar is here to remind us that DARKCOIN remains unconventionnal. I suggest keeping the D with the slant bar as a symbol and as a logo.

We have to distinguish the logo from illustrations and artwork. Bitcoin itself do have many variations. We have no obligation to stick on a single coin model. But let's make the symbol clear. The D is the perfect symbol for a real world currency. This should definitely not look to fancy IMHO but suggesting a strong and solid currency.

COLOR THEME.

I suggest switching to a different color combination. I chose dark tones (mostly black) + metallic GOLD.

Black for the DARK side. No further explanations needed here.
GOLD for the expensive side. DRK being also a store of value.
I opted for a clean, corporate looking identity. Because it is a currency, and ultimately an expensive one. So far this kind of visual identity is not used by any competitor. This is an unique segment. Darkcoin can be classy and secret at the same time. I bet on this position.

If you want a currency which cost 1000$/unit, then better start to give it a more expensive look. Suggesting a value, even if not real yet, is having the work half done. We definitely do not want to looks like a casino chip (I'm not saying this is currently the case) or looking very fanciful like I saw in the design contest.

This is basically all I wanted to say to the community and I really hope this will make it.
I currently hold only 800DRK. But I'm convinced this coin can grow x 1000. Let's make the right choices !

My adress if you feel generous XgtB7p19sByoGbX19Mp8bM859W8JBk26SJ. As it took me my week-end to set all the things up !

It's really nice to be here. P2P projects really are a unique experience.
Stay in touch.

I like it! (But queue BlackCoin holders complaining that it's too similar.)
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 09:10:49 PM
It's up on git. Can someone compile the Windows binary?

Please see my comments below: patch wasn't tested properly. It's better to stay 1-2 days with some node not patched. This will help in case of problems with this patch.

The absense of this patch doesn't influence miner's income in most cases.

Sorry, I'm confused, can we continue mining with the wallet and bitmonerod from yesterday?

The tx that was causing the problem has been accepted into a block, so yes you can keep using yesterday's version.
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 08:59:15 PM

The problem is in block generation code. In one of last updates in Bytecoin there was a bug introduced: it calculates extra-size penalty the wrong way. As a result we see that a mined block isn't accepted by the network. I will consume the big transaction now into correct block. As soon as network accepts this block I will release new mining code to git.

Here is the tx that caused the problem:

id: <f1d8e3391161e4e98566c746d605f97cf432cbd19c83d8b0444e02748f54117e>
blob_size: 20534


Does BCN still possess this issue?
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
It's up on git. Can someone compile the Windows binary?
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
The problem is in block generation code. In one of last updates in Bytecoin there was a bug introduced: it calculates extra-size penalty the wrong way. As a result we see that a mined block isn't accepted by the network. I will consume the big transaction now into correct block. As soon as network accepts this block I will release new mining code to git.

Here is the tx that caused the problem:

id: <f1d8e3391161e4e98566c746d605f97cf432cbd19c83d8b0444e02748f54117e>
blob_size: 20534

Funnily this is my tx

Hope to see the commit soon!

First notable event in the history of BMR.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 07:35:18 PM
so, should we stop mining or what?  Huh i just found a block few hours back

The current situation is that someone disabled mempool and forked the chain so that the invalid tx doesn't get in the way. But the difficulty hasn't changed much so blocks are being found much more rarely than 1 minute. So you can mine, it's just very slow. A few people are on the freenode channel trying to solve the cause of the problem.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: April 19, 2014, 07:12:02 PM
honestly, I think we are overlooking a few key points. First and foremost, I believe the price of dark right now is base entirely on the strength of eduff and his abilities. Remember we are just on RC1. Also, most people who buy crypto usually will not even flirt with a crypto that is closed source. We also have to wait for the masternode payments to start. People seem to like the POS of BC and others, so this is a different take on the POS system and brings, in my estimation, great value to the coin. So, I believe we will see price ranges from .0023-.0011 for a little bit. This price range will crumble once we get further along the release/development cycle. I am not worried about the price of dark. In a year if it's still at this price, then yes, I may be concerned, however we are still very new AND not yet out of the development cycle. Once open sourced and paying masternodes .....man alive it's going to be great.

+1. There is no conspiracy. GPU mining is a business and there are many farms that just dump as soon as they mine them. We don't have demand to keep up with that because the defining feature isn't even released yet. All DRK is right now is an LTC clone with a better algo.
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 06:14:34 PM
Well, that was fun while it lasted.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: April 19, 2014, 04:59:17 PM
Very low volume, DarkCoin does not get pumped/dumped, DarkSend not FULLY (getting there!) completed yet...I think the price stability is not so complicated as you guys are making it out to be.

Volume is generally quite good with DRK, being consistently in the top10 of cryptsy. Currently we are behind Litecoin/BTC.

Last 24hrs

DOGE/BTC    Dogecoin    844 BTC   
BC/BTC    BlackCoin    591 BTC   
WC/BTC    WhiteCoin    302 BTC   
FLT/BTC    FlutterCoin    263 BTC   
POT/BTC    PotCoin    156 BTC   
LTC/BTC    LiteCoin    132 BTC   
DRK/BTC    DarkCoin    98.0 BTC   
ZET/BTC    ZetaCoin    56.9 BTC   
VTC/BTC    VertCoin    32.4 BTC
DOGE/LTC    Dogecoin    32 BTC
AUR/BTC    AuroraCoin    31.1 BTC

It's usually closer to 40 BTC.
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
How long does it take to mine a block with a i7 3770 ?
(just to know if it is doable...)

It's solo mineable with that and perhaps just about anything except the worst mobile CPU. And in fact that's the only option right now so you might as well. Hopefully we'll have a pool within a month but the only ones who have an implementation currently is those MinerGate insiders.
my question may sound stupid, but how do you know when you have found a block ?
I got right after my message a blue message in the bitmonerod.exe screen but when I check the balance It is still 0

Type refresh in simplewallet.
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 04:13:36 PM
How long does it take to mine a block with a i7 3770 ?
(just to know if it is doable...)

It's solo mineable with that and perhaps just about anything except the worst mobile CPU. And in fact that's the only option right now so you might as well. Hopefully we'll have a pool within a month but the only ones who have an implementation currently is those MinerGate insiders.
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: April 19, 2014, 08:40:30 AM
Twice I've seen stuff about alternate blockchains and successful "reorganizations" in the daemon. Is this common in all cryptocurrencies but simply hidden behind the GUI? Or is this coin particular prone to forking?
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: April 19, 2014, 08:33:28 AM
Guys please investigate and do some research before you post, look at the wallet distribution. Only the top accounts have a lot of coins. Which includes those of tradingplatforms. After the top 10 wallets, the next wallets have considerable less coins. Compare to any other altcoin distribution over wallets outstanding is much fairer.

Those huge wallets that supposedly belong to exchanges mean that there are lots of coins hanging there ready to be sold.

That's the way it is with every coin. I guess all of cryptocurrency is about to crash by this logic. Cheesy
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