If it is running Metro as the UI I'm gonna be pissed.

Are autopayouts not working?

Avalons guys don't give a crap about marketing or fanfare. This thing has been in the works for a long time. ngzhang has never been one to talk much. He's no BS straight shooting and he delivers. Look up his profile and read his posts. He doesn't spend most of his time making thing pretty or flaunting his works like BFL or the other. The closest they came to flaunting anything is announcing some slight speed boosts and the countdown clock on the website. He knows his shit. BFL can even decide on packaging even after 3+ months of delays. Heat is a BS excuse, they would have shipped a first gen and then improved it later if they had a real product.

I'll sell my avalon preorders, BTC200 ea.

so put your BTC where your mouth is if you are so confident in BFL/your employer's competence.

I think that since it's the first batch, they should all be sent out as engineering sample or demo units.

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when trying to connect to site.

No one knows yet. It's all vaporware and promises that have been changing daily or weekly.

On paper BFL looks the best, but as usual their execution is meh and will probably take 3-4 revisions after they ship the first lot to make them work like they say they will. If they don't default and fold.

Basic looks good, but is apparently restarting from scratch, who knows.

Avalon looks to be the first out of the gate. It may not be the most efficient, but it is unique that it's a full stand alone unit. It also has more parts that could fail. But it is also open source so you can tweak things.

Powerwise initially power wont matter, since even the worst asic is not going to pull the power of a gpu rig while doing 10-100x the hashrate. Whoever hits first will "win". Once difficulty rises, power will play a larger role, but again the worst asic rig will only pull the power of a desktop PC. You wont be able to heat your home with them.

The best thing to do is diversify if you can. Avalon is sold in waves and is currently sold out. Basic and BFL will take orders, and make on demand. At this point if you aren't already ordered, you are probably better off sitting on your cash or buy bitcoins. It's going to be a bumpy ride for the next 6 months or so.

I expect asic prices to drop drastically since competition will be fierce, and difficulty skyrocketing. The asics who hit after the "winner" makes it to market may take an incredibly long time to break even. It's a much much poorer investment than gpus were.

at least he came back and is talking. So many others just cut and run.

or having the whole lot fail and go bankrupt and leave everyone hanging.

That's essentially how chips are made. Not precisely but they are basically printed on glass and the printing places the circuits and layers are added incrementally.

Gonna be hilarious when the next batch of chips arrives defective too.

Guess someone got salt in their silicon.

I use a new address every month, just a habit, plus makes it easy to track income.

you don't adjust chips. period.

You can add crap the the board to fix a leak or add voltage or capacitance. That's about it. If there was anything wrong with the chips whatsoever it's a respin at best, and worse a whole redo of the mask. That's 30-90 days of fail.

so everyone who gets a first gen BFL SC before whatever the real problem is fixed is getting a quick fix prototype board at best.

you have to understand that p2pool isnt mining the bitcoin chain it's mining an alt chain that essentially merge mines the btc chain. rejects, stales and orphans don't matter as long as the pool is working. You can get a btc block with a stale or orphaned p2pool share. There's a lot of variance because of the share idea, but it works out. As long as you get some shares in before p2pool hits a block you are good. The shares last for several blocks, so if you stop mining you get paid for a while too. It also means it takes a while to build up your sharecount to reach maximum payout.

90% of my work to p2pool is discarded work or rejected shares, because of the 10 second long polling. I still have been making far > 110% PPS and AFAIK no public pool can touch that anymore.

If you had been on p2pool the last couple months you'd have made 110%+ over regular PPS rates, without fees mined straight to your wallet.

You could make a dry pile, that's the closest you can get to "free" energy by using the humidity in the air to power a battery. A big enough one could power 12V devices or even your home if you could make it big enough and keep the efficiency up. They have working dry piles keep voltage for over 100 years.

Can't wait. Also cancel some more orders so I can buy more avalons

use the webpage

127.0.0.1:9332  and go to graphs. it should even out over time.

you can "merge mine" bitcoins and tell it to submit to litecoin but litecoin will reject every block, probably one every few seconds, you are probably hammering the crap out of your computer trying that.

You have to mine one of the other, they are incompatible.

you run separate instances on different ports, and you can only mine on one or the other with the same worker.

You can have the same gpu or whatever split and mine half on litecoin and half btc, but since btc needs high hashrate and low mem speed, and litecoin needs low rate and high mem speed it's not really feasible.