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461  Economy / Service Discussion / Difference between Cryptotalk(get free spam from ayatollah &c) and Bitcointalk on: November 20, 2019, 05:27:26 AM
I just want to make some comments on this pseudoblog that "gives" (so to speak, because after 130 post begins to pay you one every 10) 1000 Satoshi each post. It is moderated by incompetents, perhaps it is not a coincidence that one of the moderators is called ayatollah, ready to launch missiles (ban) for no apparent reason. I want to emphasize that, although you are not paying bitcointalk, you have never censored me for having expressed an opinionexcept for the story of satoshi that could be, for me, steve jobs since the first wallet was made on an apple, and this is worth much more, for me, than 1000 satoshi. They behave a little like those governments that try to censor btc and I hope that bitcointalk moderators investigate the many fake profiles that the cryptotalk components have here. They are easily recognizable because they have site advertising below rank.

462  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 20, 2019, 05:01:15 AM
Ritornando in topic, il prezzo ormai scende di giorni in giorno , siamo prossimi a scendere sotto gli 8000 $ oramai ed intanto molte altcoin stanno salendo. E' il solito gioco di gente che vende bitcoin per comprare altcoin ?
quali altcoin stanno salendo?

quelle che seguo io, negli ultimi giorni almeno, Neo, ada, tron, negli ultimi giorni sono salite abbastanza (soprattutto neo, ha fatto oltre 30% negli ultimi 10 giorni). anche nano e lisk, ma solo esclusivamente perchè sono state listate su kraken
come la vedi stellar?
463  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 19, 2019, 03:03:13 PM
Ritornando in topic, il prezzo ormai scende di giorni in giorno , siamo prossimi a scendere sotto gli 8000 $ oramai ed intanto molte altcoin stanno salendo. E' il solito gioco di gente che vende bitcoin per comprare altcoin ?
quali altcoin stanno salendo?
464  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 19, 2019, 01:51:10 PM
a meno che sappiano che tu hai 103910392  bitcon e che li tieni nel cellulare


Non puoi avere 103910392 bitcoin nel cellulare.
Il massimo numero di bitcoin possibile è 21,000,000.


Scusate, sono un pò giù oggi. Avevo bisogno di ridere un pò.

vabbè saranno bitcoin falsi...😁
465  Economy / Exchanges / Re: crypto.com another fraud app on: November 19, 2019, 01:48:55 PM
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Today, we launch our BG50 - Both Get $50 referral program that provides some of the richest rewards ever seen in a referral program. Both referrers and their friends receive a $50 USD bonus (in MCO) with each successful sign-up and valid transaction*. Our team designed a simplified referral program that focuses on the sharing of rewards based on our community’s feedback.
It's nonsense.
Why would I do this in order to get $ 50 from a shitcoin?
I think it would be better to put a warning against that platform because they set conditions and adjusted those conditions even though they would pay in MCO.
I also think that it is a deception for users to give legitimacy to the platform by forcing users to buy at a lower value in exchange for MCO.

To @OP When was the rule updated? Before or after payment?
after payment
466  Economy / Exchanges / Re: crypto.com another fraud app on: November 19, 2019, 05:46:38 AM
Change continuously the rules and you must buy 200 dollars of their crypto. Impossibile to recover the money. You do the subscription and they don' t give you the 50$ promised. After they ask to buy 200 dollars in tokens and after it' s impossibile retire the money. And they did that have issue
Is that $50 some sort of bonus? If they do ask you to buy $200 worth of MCO tokens https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/crypto-com/
then its totally nonsense that you do agree with the deal.If thats some sort of deposit bonus then for sure you would need to comply some
KYC verification before you would able to pull it out.
it' s started on same deposit bonus, after they change the rules: you must buy 200$ of tokens, after you don' t can sell the token.
467  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 18, 2019, 07:47:23 PM

Una bella descrizione delle debit card che vanno per la maggiore, anche ricaricabili in crypto.

Il sogno di molti bitcoiners, la propria banca sotto il proprio controllo e nella propria tasca:

https://news.bitcoin.com/spend-10-cryptocurrencies-with-these-debit-cards/
però c' è da dire che la sicurezza fisica può venire meno perché  se ti rubano la carta puoi perdere dei btc essendo questi tipi di carte delle visa.  Lo stesso vale per i cellulari: se si fregano il cellulare oggi uno potrebbe essere rovinato, pensateci ed esprimete una opinione.  Si dovrebbe stare attenti anche a questo tipo di vulnerabilità.

Se ti rubano la carta la blocchi, non è che perdi i fondi sopra, te ne rimandano una nuova e ricominci a usare quei fondi.
Per il cellulare, se hai dei wallet sopra, basta mettere una password sicura e conservare il seed. Io ho coinomi, password da 12 lettere/numeri/caratteri speciali , seed conservato per bene in casa

Lungi da me voler insegnare niente a nessuno, ma consiglierei una doppia pass da almeno una ventina di caratteri, minuscole, maiuscole, numeri e simboli su un pc e/o altro sempre off  Wink
poi chiaramente ognuno fa ciò che crede giusto
Per il seed, lo "spaccherei" in più parti, non da mantenere in casa, cassette di sicurezza o altro...ci sono vari modi per fare sonni tranquilli Wink

i consigli sono sempre ben accetti, ma se un ladro mi riesce a rubare il telefono e trovare la password di coinomi di 12 caratteri (non è una parola, è qualcosa tipo a3G7v! ecc) prima che io metta il seed su altro telefono e svuoti i wallet, allora merita i soldi che ha rubato  Grin
il problema potrebbero essere le vulnerabilità hardware, anche se coinomi ebbe già dei problemi software qualche tempo fa se non erro
468  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 18, 2019, 07:44:20 PM

Una bella descrizione delle debit card che vanno per la maggiore, anche ricaricabili in crypto.

Il sogno di molti bitcoiners, la propria banca sotto il proprio controllo e nella propria tasca:

https://news.bitcoin.com/spend-10-cryptocurrencies-with-these-debit-cards/
però c' è da dire che la sicurezza fisica può venire meno perché  se ti rubano la carta puoi perdere dei btc essendo questi tipi di carte delle visa.  Lo stesso vale per i cellulari: se si fregano il cellulare oggi uno potrebbe essere rovinato, pensateci ed esprimete una opinione.  Si dovrebbe stare attenti anche a questo tipo di vulnerabilità.

Se ti rubano la carta la blocchi, non è che perdi i fondi sopra, te ne rimandano una nuova e ricominci a usare quei fondi.
Per il cellulare, se hai dei wallet sopra, basta mettere una password sicura e conservare il seed. Io ho coinomi, password da 12 lettere/numeri/caratteri speciali , seed conservato per bene in casa

Lungi da me voler insegnare niente a nessuno, ma consiglierei una doppia pass da almeno una ventina di caratteri, minuscole, maiuscole, numeri e simboli su un pc e/o altro sempre off  Wink
poi chiaramente ognuno fa ciò che crede giusto
Per il seed, lo "spaccherei" in più parti, non da mantenere in casa, cassette di sicurezza o altro...ci sono vari modi per fare sonni tranquilli Wink
In pratica ti fai una password lunga, tipo un wallet address e ci unisci una password a te familiare distribuita con una certa sequenza. Il seed basta conservarlo in forma di chiave privata assieme a tre pagine di chiavi private .basta ricordare dove comincia e dove finisce
469  Economy / Exchanges / crypto.com another fraud app on: November 18, 2019, 04:23:01 PM
Change continuously the rules and you must buy 200 dollars of their crypto. Impossibile to recover the money. You do the subscription and they don' t give you the 50$ promised. After they ask to buy 200 dollars in tokens and after it' s impossibile retire the money. And they did that have issue
470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 18, 2019, 03:02:45 PM
I cannot understand that people are still waisting their time by taking part in different airdrops. I took part in more than 300 airdrops and one of them brought money, so in my opinion it does not worth the spend time.

Because  the  one you participated  is 100% scam that's why you  get nothing and also don't expect on anything regarding on airdrop but as you can see on keybase  there are so many people  claims that they receive there share's including my colleague and maybe it's worth to give a shot.


Today I received the airdrop, around 50USD! For what? For just downloading the app? This is huge, the biggest airdrop in the crypto history.
If you haven't participated yet, you can join by December 15th, so do not miss this huge opportunity again!.

If many people will register the total number of reward will reduce  and imagine in next following months if many people will register for sure  you will receive cents.
it' s a strange distribution system but must be mon
Still havent received your airdrop? If thats the case then better move on since i have seen on the site which the next round would on Dec. 15 and you might able to receive next time.

If you are eager with that $50 amount then you can contact them on why you havent received? But good luck with that. Grin
the distribution is sent in alphabetical order, if the username starts from "A" then it gets the first order, if the username starts from "Z" then it gets the last one. at this time the distribution if I'm not mistaken, already in the order of the letter "M" just wait until to "Z"
yes, i have seen. Now we see in december about time of distribution, if will be
471  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: cryptotechcoin.com give you 0.2 btc if you deposit 0.01 btc on: November 18, 2019, 01:46:05 PM
In addition to being blatant fraud, they use someone else's material on their website. This is part from Armory Wallet:





They don't want to think so just copy the text from another site so this is often done by scamers.
Well never mind we already know that scamer continues to copy without thinking hard.
yes, this is a good signal for scam alert
472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 18, 2019, 01:35:41 PM
I cannot understand that people are still waisting their time by taking part in different airdrops. I took part in more than 300 airdrops and one of them brought money, so in my opinion it does not worth the spend time.

Because  the  one you participated  is 100% scam that's why you  get nothing and also don't expect on anything regarding on airdrop but as you can see on keybase  there are so many people  claims that they receive there share's including my colleague and maybe it's worth to give a shot.


Today I received the airdrop, around 50USD! For what? For just downloading the app? This is huge, the biggest airdrop in the crypto history.
If you haven't participated yet, you can join by December 15th, so do not miss this huge opportunity again!.

If many people will register the total number of reward will reduce  and imagine in next following months if many people will register for sure  you will receive cents.
it' s a strange distribution system but must be mon
473  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: cryptotechcoin.com give you 0.2 btc if you deposit 0.01 btc on: November 17, 2019, 09:19:57 PM
This is a common scam but I can't imagine why people still fall into these kind of traps, I know that not all of us are techie and knowledgeable about crypto but these kind of scam is too obvious because if it's just as easy to double or triple your Bitcoin then what's the point of holding it?

It's basically gambling. You either win or lose at someone else's expense. Some people like it apparently.... Tongue

I disagree with the gambling comparison here since the users (victims) here are always losing. You might be talking about hyip sites or any kind of scams with referral commissions in which users have a chance to earn commission from one of their recruits, in this scenario however sending money to them doesn't given them any real chance that they would receive anything in return, this is the type of scam where anyone who will send money will instantly become a victim.
yes, of course.  Is not gambling. Is a scam because the money is lost
474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: New way for the majors to do advertising on: November 17, 2019, 09:17:44 PM
IMHO, this is going to be useless if most of the merchants and companies will make their very own dedicated coin. Because the purpose would only be on their jurisdiction and after that, what's next? This is like a reward system for their loyal users and if it's possible to convert it through cash, no doubt that many of those people that will receive their coin won't have any other thoughts to replace it with plain cash. It will make a noise but how long they can sustain that? they should rely on bitcoin all of the time.

I agree with you regarding company with their own dedicated coins. It looks so good when I see big companies announced to implement decentralized system to their business, that means decentralized space is something great. You are maybe right that all those coins will eventually die and it would be only bitcoin at the end but there is nothing wrong in trying to make their own coin to challenge the industry even though they already know it won't be easy to sustain.
There has to be one coin of all although there's a sure innovation which will be made by different companies to have their own coins. But it isn't it that we have already seen some of those coins to fail? it might be a question that we should start and see on how their will be doing but I think with the mass' favor now, it would be for bitcoin. The crypto community is always open with any innovative idea and it depends to the crowd which coin they'll be favoring.
whitout doubt, but i think that the majors, same facebook or telegram, can focalize the attention on the buisness and not on a new crypto or token for do the alternative to btc.
475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 17, 2019, 08:50:14 PM
Be care to keybase airdrop that promised 500 xlm. Is a scam.
It is not a scam cause XLM is being distributed on keybase as we speak right now. They are actually distributing more than 500 XLM. Perhaps there was a problem with your account and you got disqualified. You might still receive cause the distribution is still ongoing
still ongoing? They go home to home???
476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 17, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
Be care to keybase airdrop that promised 500 xlm. Is a scam.
Lol, you don't need to assume that Stellar is a scam without any proof. As far as I know the giveaway they make will always work well and always pay, although indeed because with the large number of participants we have to wait in line, at least we have to be more patient until our account is credited. Even my account has been credited 2x so far from the keybase program, and even I received 688XLM. I have long followed the development of Stellar so there is no doubt about them.
the question is not about xlm, even if the founder is the same as mr gox, so I would still be very careful, but this subspecies of app that, not only serves no purpose, but doesn't even give you the airdrop
477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 17, 2019, 05:16:55 PM
The team changes the conditions during the airdrop process. Now, when many joined  to messenger, they published the airdrop's program  a list of countries that aren't included. Excluded all citizens of the CIS (Commonwealth of Independent States) There are  no Ukraine, Russia and etc.
This is equal to fake.
478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Keybase airdrop fake not pays on: November 17, 2019, 04:01:01 PM
Be care to keybase airdrop that promised 500 xlm. Is a scam.

You are joking. I have just received my 688.40XLM worth 50$. Stop the FUD and join in the queue if you care for. I also benefitted from their blockchain airdrop months ago.

My friends who also registered same time have also received. If you did multiple accounts trust me, you will be disqualified.

I didn't try the keybade airdrop but my friends are posting on social media that they receive their shares and maybe I will take a look on it already since it's good amount for doing nothing  Grin.

It is interesting how there can be such different opinions on the same theme.
At this point you have made me curious and I immediately go to register, so I can write my opinion too! Smiley
Try and you can confirm here how it not works and is just a waste of time

It's not working if you didn't follow the instructions and given since you need to set up first your account before you can receive the drops.
set up account and try to receive a stellar. The problem is just the fake airdrop
479  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: cryptotechcoin.com give you 0.2 btc if you deposit 0.01 btc on: November 17, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
Besides that this is an obvious scam they are also selling their domain name in flippa which just proves that they are trying to exhaust out more money from their scam before they exit out of it. Don't be fooled into this pay something before you get their award schemes as obviously there are other methods/ways you can do it without pulling out your wallet.

Confirmed that is a scam. No doubt
480  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 17, 2019, 03:55:58 PM
Onestamente non le trovo iniziative interessanti per il mondo delle crypto. Non ha senso passare da un sistema tradizionale quale è quello bancario, centralizzato ma controllato dal pubblico mediante leggi, comitati ( consob ecc) e banca d' Italia/bce ad uno, sempre centralizzato, ma in mano ai privati e senza regole e restrizioni ( google, Facebook od Amazon). Il btc e le crypto sono alternative perché sono decentralized e le decisioni vengono prese da tutti i masternodes. Altro discorso sarebbe, invece, se rinunciassero a pezzi di società (azionariato) ed immettessero crypto, cioè tu prendi il token e loro bloccano, vincolandole a tuo favore, il numero equivalente di azioni ad un certo prezzo di mercato, a garanzia e come investimento.
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