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Thanks,
can I ask which website you guys use for these charts?
best regards
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anyone knows why bitcoin is going up (pretty strong) the last days?
anyone with some TA-skills who can talk some sense about monero-charts?
thanks in advance
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thanks, that was fast, so monday is halving day then... BTC started a very nice move a month after it's halving day (28 november 2012)... also after a long period of relative calm. Let's see what XMR has to offer :-) |
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Maybe off topic,
but I once saw a link to a file on google docs with the emission-schemes for bitcoin and monero compared... does anyone know where te find it? I think (excluding the tail emission) almost half of the monero's should be mined soon... Would like to see that file!
thanks in advance,
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36 BTC volume on Poloniex? Come on Monerians, can't we do better than that?
Calm before the storm! Yep. Buyers are scared yet and sellers are getting exhausted The dump to 00196 wasn't actual human sellers, it was people getting margin called and stopped out (I know this for a fact) can you explain how you know this? because you got margincalled yourself? thx best regards |
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oh common, bytecoin is an 80% premine scam...
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UUUUU, i am so scared.
how the f_ck you are so intelligent, but i am sorry to disappoint you...
djeez, with such enemies, monero doesn't even need any friends... |
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Monero is ignored because it has nothing to offer then blabla
Bitcoin is the first mover in this market. It shoud be doable to expand the possibilities of bitcoin with the things other coins can do.
Remember that it is not allways the best (the best in your opinion) that will win.
There are far more sophisticated coins then Monero.
internet should be ignored, it has nothing more to offer than oldschool mailservice and encyclopedia-like features... and which are those far more sophisticated coins (really interested to hear about them)? |
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As someone who dislike both Monero and Dash
You are just another Darkcoin/Dash shill I couldn't care less about that instamined nonsense nor do I care about Monero/Nem/NXT I just find it funny when people are convinced that any of these coins have an actual chance at challenging bitcoin when in reality these coins probably won't even stay relevant in a few years. yeah, technological progress doesn't exist... there will never be better alternatives, bitcoin has no fungibility problem, i shit flowers and ride pink ponies... I think the technological progress is nowehere near significant enough to replace what's been working for years. You could create a coin with all the best features of the top coins and it would still be traded through bitcoin. There will be better alternatives, but I don't think that coin exists yet. don't know... I thought the coinbase-debacle was pretty telling... when fungibility disappears I'm looking elsewhere to store value... But that's subjective off course |
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As someone who dislike both Monero and Dash
You are just another Darkcoin/Dash shill I couldn't care less about that instamined nonsense nor do I care about Monero/Nem/NXT I just find it funny when people are convinced that any of these coins have an actual chance at challenging bitcoin when in reality these coins probably won't even stay relevant in a few years. yeah, technological progress doesn't exist... there will never be better alternatives, bitcoin has no fungibility problem, i shit flowers and ride pink ponies... |
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Trollero™ strikes again  Get ready for 100 pages of "Dash is a scam" Trollero pumping from: Smooth - Epic-troll / slightly unhinged Monero core "dev" with 1000s of attack-Dash posts to his name. Was ranked the 4th biggest troll on the Dash thread by post count. Recently took over Monero competitor AEON. Fluffyponzay - Monero lead "dev". Joined Monero after trying to scam USD 200,000 from Vertcoin investors (aka 20% of their market cap) to "develop" his Vertpay.com website. Took control of Monero and setup MyMonero.com, centralized Monero web wallet. Likes to go offline and gives Monero core team / their ISP / NSA acccess to majority of Monero's "anonymous" transactions / users from one handy spot. And because Monero official wallet doesn't work, it's MyMonero all the way. Oh also trying to make his 3rd centralized payment site PayBee.com...Lots more but can't be bothered. Harrison Ford aka Generalize this - oh he made the thread already. (I like that he actually did some research, even though I think it's obviously and idiotic conclusion to say wallets hosted around the world in different countries running as masternodes are centralized, kudos Generalize for once  ) G2M - Chronic Monero troll Icebreaker - Extremely unhinged head Monero troll aka Eduardo de Castro the Hashfast scammer. Everyone knows him so no introduction needed. GTO911 - known cat fiddler. Do not let this person near your family or the family pet. I will tick off the list as they appear. If you are just starting this thread, make your life easier and just buy Monero.. They will probably go away if you just give them your BTC. Wait for them to dump on the dumber Monero users who don't get it's a clone of something else that has been stalling for 14 months already, then BCT can be a more pleasant experience for all of us seeking innovation / decentralized crypto.. Things to watch out for: 1. Trollero users repeating the same thing over and over again, regardless of what arguments, reason or logic are put in front of them. 2. All replies to Trollero users must have any text offensive to Monero removed from them. Sorry, you're text was just Trolleroed™ 3. All Trollero replies to non-believers must start with "are you stupid?" and maintain the fact that everyone is stupid who doesn't "get" Monero (not any other Cryptonote clone though, even the ones with active developers and GUIs - Monero is special and the next bitcoin - FACT. 4. Lots of talk of 10,000 XMR pizzas - like we never heard it before.. 5. Anything competing with Monero but not Monero itself is a centralized scam, including any exchange or website that even mentions them, period. Can't think of anymore right now...oh yeh Poloniex is 100% trustworthy. The fact that 95% of Trollero volume goes there whilst people on any other exchange like Bittrex or BTC38 won't touch a Trollero with a 10 foot poll means nothing. And Dash price is fake even though it's on 10 exchanges. Anyway...have fun  cheers Wauw, so desperate, not one single argument to refute GeneralizeThis evidence of centralisation... well, go ahead, add me to your insulting list with ad-hominems... best regards |
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"Dash is a SCAM$
you're making it quite easy indeed  Never heard that from a Monero troll before  All those people who mined the last 12 months now in 20x profit, they didn't know they have been scammed lol didn't know you were a monero-troll? Congratz on your profits though, i sincerely hope you cash in before Dash dies Anyway, this chitchat is leading to nothing, I'll gladly let GeneralizeThis wipe the floor with the 'dash-arguments' again... bye |
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"Dash is a SCAM$
you're making it quite easy indeed |
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Not one person from Monero will ever dare to address my points like above ^ I have been posting recently so I will just bump for visibility.
Monero - Don't mention the fake clone-coin with zero-innovation or development™
To stay on topic - You might want to pick a sh*tcoin in the top 20 / 30 coins to accuse of dying instead of one of the top alts with biggest community / volume / gains lol.
what points to address? your 'points' are pretty superficial when compared to what GenerelazeThis is discussing... Your points have almost nothing to do with the technology itself. You just give your (subjective) opinion that there isn't enough progress... To my (also subjective) liking there is progress, just not the visible and marketable kind... I'm glad the developers are working on good technology instead of relying on fast solutions that aren't that good (GeneralizeThis is proving that there are 'problems' with the anonimity, privacy, centralisation with DasH). And then he didn't even have to talk about the instamine... your arguments are: monero is a clone, there is no progress... my points: there are lots of clones so who cares, there is progress, just not the very visible kind... this is not a discussion based on objective arguments though... I have the impression that every legitimate discussion about dash's (flawed) technology ends with: "you're just a monero-fanboy, stop whining, do something for yourself, you haven't got a gui wallet, you're not making progress... " Resorting to these kind of arguments when there's no defending the technology anymore is intellectually kinda weak... best regards |
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Sad that so many people take these Trollero attack threads seriously, including Dash supporters. Although I admit I did when they first started too. The idea is (obviously) just to keep a thread bumped at the top of the alt-discussion board saying "Dash is a SCAM$(*&#@" or whatever, just like Monero is the only coin to keep a "speculation" thread bumped on the same board, with Generalize, Icebreaker (aka Eduardo de Castro Hashfast scammer / head Monero troll), G2M, debryune, wpalczynski, Smooth (Monero fake-core dev come mega-troll), FluffyPony (Monero lead-"dev" aka ex-journalist / Vertpay.com / MyMonero.com / PayBee.com / OpenRigs scammer), and all the usual trolls now in their 2nd year of posting the same tired garbage about 10,000 XMR pizzas and "it doesn't matter we are an unfinished-clone of Bytecoin and didn't add any features in 1 year and the wallet doesn't work because if you believe and troll hard enough, and ignore that it's a sh*tcoin-clone with zero development, Monero is the next Bitcoin!!!". Same as the other ~20 attack-Dash threads being pushed by Monero users/core-devs since Darkcoin implemented instant transactions and rebranded to actually take on Bitcoin thus leaving Monero with a big-empty "Anon-coin" bag. Now Bytecoin has owned Monero, they are still here attacking their other competitors like Dash, one of the top alts with largest community and most unique development / innovation, while Monero's cut-and-paste wallet is now 1 year behind Bytecoin with no GUI / non-volatile blockchain, and they have got burned for it big time, but they don't care lol Keep going Trollero® thanks for the bump dude best regards You are losing the discussion dude. I can bump it myself again.  A wise man once told me that if you have to tell people you are right, you're mostly wrong... bump it! best regards He didn't go by the name Chad Kroeger, did he? ah crap, you got me, unbump please |
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Sad that so many people take these Trollero attack threads seriously, including Dash supporters. Although I admit I did when they first started too. The idea is (obviously) just to keep a thread bumped at the top of the alt-discussion board saying "Dash is a SCAM$(*&#@" or whatever, just like Monero is the only coin to keep a "speculation" thread bumped on the same board, with Generalize, Icebreaker (aka Eduardo de Castro Hashfast scammer / head Monero troll), G2M, debryune, wpalczynski, Smooth (Monero fake-core dev come mega-troll), FluffyPony (Monero lead-"dev" aka ex-journalist / Vertpay.com / MyMonero.com / PayBee.com / OpenRigs scammer), and all the usual trolls now in their 2nd year of posting the same tired garbage about 10,000 XMR pizzas and "it doesn't matter we are an unfinished-clone of Bytecoin and didn't add any features in 1 year and the wallet doesn't work because if you believe and troll hard enough, and ignore that it's a sh*tcoin-clone with zero development, Monero is the next Bitcoin!!!". Same as the other ~20 attack-Dash threads being pushed by Monero users/core-devs since Darkcoin implemented instant transactions and rebranded to actually take on Bitcoin thus leaving Monero with a big-empty "Anon-coin" bag. Now Bytecoin has owned Monero, they are still here attacking their other competitors like Dash, one of the top alts with largest community and most unique development / innovation, while Monero's cut-and-paste wallet is now 1 year behind Bytecoin with no GUI / non-volatile blockchain, and they have got burned for it big time, but they don't care lol Keep going Trollero® thanks for the bump dude best regards You are losing the discussion dude. I can bump it myself again. A wise man once told me that if you have to tell people you are right, you're mostly wrong... bump it! best regards |
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Sad that so many people take these Trollero attack threads seriously, including Dash supporters. Although I admit I did when they first started too. The idea is (obviously) just to keep a thread bumped at the top of the alt-discussion board saying "Dash is a SCAM$(*&#@" or whatever, just like Monero is the only coin to keep a "speculation" thread bumped on the same board, with Generalize, Icebreaker (aka Eduardo de Castro Hashfast scammer / head Monero troll), G2M, debryune, wpalczynski, Smooth (Monero fake-core dev come mega-troll), FluffyPony (Monero lead-"dev" aka ex-journalist / Vertpay.com / MyMonero.com / PayBee.com / OpenRigs scammer), and all the usual trolls now in their 2nd year of posting the same tired garbage about 10,000 XMR pizzas and "it doesn't matter we are an unfinished-clone of Bytecoin and didn't add any features in 1 year and the wallet doesn't work because if you believe and troll hard enough, and ignore that it's a sh*tcoin-clone with zero development, Monero is the next Bitcoin!!!". Same as the other ~20 attack-Dash threads being pushed by Monero users/core-devs since Darkcoin implemented instant transactions and rebranded to actually take on Bitcoin thus leaving Monero with a big-empty "Anon-coin" bag. Now Bytecoin has owned Monero, they are still here attacking their other competitors like Dash, one of the top alts with largest community and most unique development / innovation, while Monero's cut-and-paste wallet is now 1 year behind Bytecoin with no GUI / non-volatile blockchain, and they have got burned for it big time, but they don't care lol Keep going Trollero® thanks for the bump dude best regards |
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Also, I know Monero has adaptive block size. I was commenting that Monero still needs to hard fork to implement permanent inflation rewards, and that maybe MP will be bellyache/troll similar to how he has over increasing bitcoin block size. It's kind of a scarcity issue along the same lines I think.
Interestingly enough here's your answer: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2015#1146160Worth quoting because I agree with his monetary view. However, I think he is wrong with respect to a proof-of-work cryptocurrency which is not only a financial system but also a device that has the function in a certain way including mining incentives. For the later, a positive rate of inflation is superior. fixed inflation is not fundamentally different from zero inflation just as long as the inflation is known Fiat money has more or less fixed inflation which is done by the European Central Bank inflation targetting. If there is an inflation rate, it really doesn't differ from fiat money (unless you do not consider a distribution mechanism which is different in crypto and the modern type of fiat money which is created in two ways: 1) by central bank the initial money supply 2) Commercial banks by credit expansion - the latter being more significiant factor). hmmz, I thought inflation = expanding the money supply, whatever the inflation-target is, whatever the actual rise in prices is... fiat-money has no fixed inflation, central banks can print at will as per Ben Bernanke, Mario Draghi, Kuroda, etc... Fixed inflation (as is with btc, monero... as is with gold and silver) differs a whole lot from being able to print whatever amount of currency... fractional reserve banking with fixed-inflation-money will fail when there's a too big a bank run (the money can't be printed at will), FRB in a fiat-currency-system doesn't need to fail, the central banks can print at will... best regards Monero hasn't "fixed inflation" neither, the correct economic term is http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/disinflation.aspNot sure, that's where the bankers try to confuse us i guess... what is your definition of inflation? Is it rising prices as the effect of an expanding money-supply, or is it just an expanding money-supply, wether some prices are rising or not? As I understand: disinflation is a slowing rate of rising prices... it's not a slowing rate in expanding the money supply... so monero doesn't have disinflation, monero has a fixed inflation rate (as in can't be adjusted at will). interesting discussion, but maybe off topic over here... |
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Also, I know Monero has adaptive block size. I was commenting that Monero still needs to hard fork to implement permanent inflation rewards, and that maybe MP will be bellyache/troll similar to how he has over increasing bitcoin block size. It's kind of a scarcity issue along the same lines I think.
Interestingly enough here's your answer: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2015#1146160Worth quoting because I agree with his monetary view. However, I think he is wrong with respect to a proof-of-work cryptocurrency which is not only a financial system but also a device that has the function in a certain way including mining incentives. For the later, a positive rate of inflation is superior. fixed inflation is not fundamentally different from zero inflation just as long as the inflation is known Fiat money has more or less fixed inflation which is done by the European Central Bank inflation targetting. If there is an inflation rate, it really doesn't differ from fiat money (unless you do not consider a distribution mechanism which is different in crypto and the modern type of fiat money which is created in two ways: 1) by central bank the initial money supply 2) Commercial banks by credit expansion - the latter being more significiant factor). hmmz, I thought inflation = expanding the money supply, whatever the inflation-target is, whatever the actual rise in prices is... fiat-money has no fixed inflation, central banks can print at will as per Ben Bernanke, Mario Draghi, Kuroda, etc... Fixed inflation (as is with btc, monero... as is with gold and silver) differs a whole lot from being able to print whatever amount of currency... fractional reserve banking with fixed-inflation-money will fail when there's a too big a bank run (the money can't be printed at will), FRB in a fiat-currency-system doesn't need to fail, the central banks can print at will... best regards |
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the problem is:
1. their anon tech sucks so its just "another" altcoin these days
2. their branding to Dash .. Dash , really?
3. instamine
I'd add the centralisation with the masternodes is really their biggest 'current' problem... - Instamine/premine, ok, it can happen, if people still trust it and believe the developers reasons, it can work out if the technology is good... - Branding, whatever, marketing here and there and what's the coins name is the choice of the developers, that's ok if the technology is good - But the masternode-system is so obviously flawed: centralisation, compromised anonimity just because of that centralisation, developing dash-aristocracy... Without the masternode-system I actually might have supported DASH, but now it's a big no-no to me... the masternodes go against every principle of a decentralised cryptocurrency... But still, people need to make their own choices, if it has better marketeering, if people don't really care THAT much about privacy, if they like a nice look and feel... then yes, by all means, you can use DASH... Very few coins are truly decentralized (including Bitcoin). Just look at what is happening to Bitcoin with the departure of Gavin. Decentralization is a worthy goal, but we're not there yet. You are very very right... but there's a difference between a decentralising intention and not succeeding all the way, and no decentralising intention at all or even installing the opposite of decentralisation... |
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