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4681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 10, 2017, 03:19:55 AM
some of us get this experience that we will lose when play gambling in the long run, but i don't know why?

Why? Because that is designed by the casino operators and the longer you are going to stay in their place the higher vulnerability that you can lose more money from them and that's the same thing in online casino's, you can lose more bitcoins. Because your hands are itchy to play and you can't stop it.

honestly i have got this experience too maybe its because of our greed in the short run i get some profits although its small but in the long run i play with some strategy still get losses
Your not the only that experience it because most of us are doing the same thing. Grin
4682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: February 09, 2017, 02:57:52 AM
I am going to do both, to me, the trading and gambling is almost the same, there are opportunities to win and lose. for a percentage of gambling is 70% and 30% for trading.

I guess you need to change the percentage upon doing trading and gambling. Because putting more percentage in gambling is going to make you lose a lot while in trading you only have smaller chance of returning big profit. But its up to you, I'm just saying that if I were you, I'm going to make it 70% for trading and remaining in gambling or you can do a 50-50.
4683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 09, 2017, 02:45:02 AM
When you make profit stop gamble.

So simple yet true.

If you want to have money then you should keep the money that you earn. Simple as that.

If you just like to bet on things because you are bored then by all means, gamble. Bet about 8% of your balance and just play for fun with it. If you quadruple your money, keep a little bit of it then continue on if you want.

Yeah very simple, true but hard to follow. Many times I did and tried this, there are times that I was able to stop when I manage to won some winnings. But most of the time I can't stop when I win because that makes me braver to keep on gambling because I do have enough bankroll when I win. I just do betting with small amount and I think that's smart way.

Well, that's how it usually happens, When we win a big amount, we tend to keep on playing thinking
we can win again before our bankroll runs out.

The truth is every time we bet and lose we tend to keep following our strategy, but once we win
we tend to be more reckless and before we realize it we already lost our winning and go back to
our strategy.

It's hard to follow our own rules but it is harder if we lose all our winnings and all of our bankroll.

Gambling is cruel, isn't it?  Cheesy

It is really cruel and that's why we also become cruel when we do gamble. Following our own rules is always the hard thing for all of us because we don't know that we are the one who implements it and to follow it. So it doesn't matter if we are going to break our own rules because there's no punishment when we broke our rule.
4684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: February 09, 2017, 02:34:16 AM
As a gambler you should know that gambling has the potential to wreck lives and the people that surrounds you. Indeed it has wrecked some one's live either directly or indirectly. Hopefully this thread receive and indeed give some support to those people who are really into gambling addiction.

It is not just have a potential to destroy our lives but it can make our lives destroy. We can't blame those people that are new in this type of addiction because they are still in the sensation and belief that it can make their lives rich by using gambling as a source of income but once they don't have anything anymore, they will realize that this must be avoided.

For some people, gambling is an addiction, much like smoking or drinking. For some reason, they feel that it is possible to win from gambling that's the typical mindset of others not knowing that there's a huge possibility it will destroy one's lives.

It is their perspective and we can't judge them because it did once happened to all of us. We should really have enough time to make our addiction put in our main problem because when it did come to the point that we don't care of the people who cares for us and what is just important to us is to gamble, then you need to cure it or look for a psychologist.
4685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 09, 2017, 02:16:17 AM
some of us get this experience that we will lose when play gambling in the long run, but i don't know why? honestly i have got this experience too maybe its because of our greed in the short run i get some profits although its small but in the long run i play with some strategy still get losses

Yes greediness is one of the reason why we also lose in the long run. It is the one that makes us deceive and wants to keep us gamble in the long run. Like many of the gamblers here wanted to win bigger amount but that is dragging us into losing more because of that attitude we are not contented. We just need to be aware of what we are doing.
4686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 09, 2017, 01:56:10 AM
i can't control my self when gambling especially when i won fpr multiple times
i want it again and again although always get losses at the ends

Well that is what I feel too when I win a lot of games for many times. But I will have enough time of controlling myself. Because I keep on believing myself that I can get a lot of money when I will keep on playing and that's what I decided every time I play and my promise to myself that I'll control my own emotion is always broken.

I also experience this before when I win for multiple time but your self is telling you to play more because this might day I will win over the house. Obviously in the end I lost. Controlling yourself is a key for you to stop when you got the thing that you wanted. It's really hard to control once it triggered but by the will you can stop it.

Ourselves are deceiving us because if we are going to in front of other gamblers or people we may say that it is easy to gamble and control ourselves. And we are not going to think of any problems from it but that's the real deal when we are in the scene and we are playing, it is really hard to control ourselves because of emotion.
4687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 09, 2017, 12:12:39 AM
Yes if you don't know about analysis

Analysis in trading and gambling are different. When you think of analysis in trading then that's a good way of analysis but in gambling, that is not actually an analysis but you are just doing some proper timing on when you are going to gamble. It's like somehow a strategy in gambling where you can have more chance of winning but in trading, that's already a method.
4688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 08, 2017, 03:01:21 AM
I guess trading has a large element of skill and judgement, so it can be considered not gambling.
Yes ,but it has a big difference when it come by using skills ,and trading is not like gambling to use some analysis and skills only .It is needed a big patient and predicting some movements in the market to earn.

They are absolutely different and very far from what they are supposed to be. In gambling even you are not that good in any skills as long as you know how to do analysis and will read some predictions then you should be fine. But in trading it requires effort and patience because not just the bitcoins you need to invest with it, but also time.
4689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: February 08, 2017, 02:06:31 AM
I often think to quit gambling, but I feel it is difficult because the extremely powerful gambling desires let alone when there is spare time. may I include addict gambler so most of the time I spend on gambling.

All types of addiction are like that. Even we wanted to quit gambling for good but still we are not able to help ourselves because the power of addiction is dragging us to keep on doing it. Gambling addiction is one of the hardest enemy when it comes on quitting, you are fighting with yourself and we can say that do something else to quit addiction but that is not an easy thing.

Yup all types of addictions are same, we will decide to quit but we can't it's very tough to stop any addiction activity. It is fighting b/w your mind and your greed. Your mind will say to stop gambling, but your greed will make you play gambling. You can handle this situation. If you can handle this situation means have self-control you can try to stop any addiction.

Yes our conscience is really hard to fight because even you really want to say that you are not going to gamble anymore. You mind will say, "Don't worry, it's fine you can quit tomorrow. Don't waste the chance of winning for this day." A gambler can't quit alone he needs to be guided by his friends, parents and other tools that can help him in quitting.
lol, that's not your conscience, because your conscience would tell you what is the right thing to do, unless gambling is really right for you. I guess it is the addiction already, we cannot quit because we do not want to let go, we feel we have to achieve something and we will either lose everything or get it.

How do you know that you have always a clear and right conscience? And upon googling it, conscience means this:

Code:
con·science
an inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one's behavior.

That is what I'm saying that conscience is hard to fight even you will have loved ones to back you up and support you to quit but if you don't have a clear mind, you can't quit easily.
4690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 08, 2017, 01:45:27 AM
i can't control my self when gambling especially when i won fpr multiple times
i want it again and again although always get losses at the ends

Well that is what I feel too when I win a lot of games for many times. But I will have enough time of controlling myself. Because I keep on believing myself that I can get a lot of money when I will keep on playing and that's what I decided every time I play and my promise to myself that I'll control my own emotion is always broken.
4691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 08, 2017, 01:23:59 AM
I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.
Exactly, there is a reason why gambling sites is very profitable and that is because of the house edge. They have the advantage over us and of course since it's provably fair, it cannot be rigged but we are only be entitled for some temporary win.

If once your a gambler to their site and you withdraw all your winnings house edge has their part with it. And if you are going to gamble again with your winnings they have their part again with it so they are going to have double time on getting profit with you. That makes all of us lose in the long run depending on how we are going to use our winnings and will fall for our addiction.
4692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: February 08, 2017, 12:54:49 AM
As a gambler you should know that gambling has the potential to wreck lives and the people that surrounds you. Indeed it has wrecked some one's live either directly or indirectly. Hopefully this thread receive and indeed give some support to those people who are really into gambling addiction.

It is not just have a potential to destroy our lives but it can make our lives destroy. We can't blame those people that are new in this type of addiction because they are still in the sensation and belief that it can make their lives rich by using gambling as a source of income but once they don't have anything anymore, they will realize that this must be avoided.
4693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 08, 2017, 12:32:16 AM
When you make profit stop gamble.

So simple yet true.

If you want to have money then you should keep the money that you earn. Simple as that.

If you just like to bet on things because you are bored then by all means, gamble. Bet about 8% of your balance and just play for fun with it. If you quadruple your money, keep a little bit of it then continue on if you want.

Yeah very simple, true but hard to follow. Many times I did and tried this, there are times that I was able to stop when I manage to won some winnings. But most of the time I can't stop when I win because that makes me braver to keep on gambling because I do have enough bankroll when I win. I just do betting with small amount and I think that's smart way.
4694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 07, 2017, 05:14:14 AM
The only way I can see one could be ashamed of being a gambler is if it starts dragging him to the bottom, to poverty.

Yes if you are this type of gambler and you should really be ashamed of yourself and don't let your relatives that you are in gambling. Because if know that gambling pulls you down, you're dead now.

You have to be careful not to bet your life savings, because many gamblers ended up homeless, with no friends and family. This is surely something to be ashamed of!
This is what we call irresponsible gambling, if you used to move your funds or life savings then you must be ashamed of yourself for it or else it is fine because that was your fund.


4695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 07, 2017, 04:39:15 AM
I am not rich doing gambling though it has been more than 10 years since I am in doing various types of gambling. It may be because I never took gambling as mean to become rich knowing it is not designed for this to make others rich. I am doing gambling for getting small profits and fun and I can say I am happy with this thing.

Even me, I am not that rich in gambling and even I think I am going to gamble for almost a decade or 2. It cannot change my life, if you are lucky then you are going to be rich in gambling but in reality only few people in this world are very fortunate when it comes to gambling. I will try to find some other ways of earning and make myself rich.
4696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 07, 2017, 03:26:50 AM
I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.
4697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 07, 2017, 03:03:56 AM
the knicks are playing bad. i picked them -2.5 for points spread.

Lakers @ Knicks

5:58 - 2nd, 52 - 28 Lakers Lead.



Well too bad you lost your bet. Lakers won this match with 14 points lead. Better luck next time don't fall for a trap.

I can not believe what I just witnessed!
Lebron hitting a 3 pointer from a court long pass by Love! Grin
He ties the game with the hot red Washington Wizards! Shocked

That was not going to happen if you saw the shot before he missed the most easiest lay up shot.
I just know what I saw him do with hardly no time left.

They better not lose this game now!  Angry

This game is very tough and both teams are playing well, they don't want to end the game until no one will end tiring.  And this game went to an over time, almost 1 minute left 1 lead for Wizards.
4698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: February 07, 2017, 02:03:50 AM
I often think to quit gambling, but I feel it is difficult because the extremely powerful gambling desires let alone when there is spare time. may I include addict gambler so most of the time I spend on gambling.

All types of addiction are like that. Even we wanted to quit gambling for good but still we are not able to help ourselves because the power of addiction is dragging us to keep on doing it. Gambling addiction is one of the hardest enemy when it comes on quitting, you are fighting with yourself and we can say that do something else to quit addiction but that is not an easy thing.

Yup all types of addictions are same, we will decide to quit but we can't it's very tough to stop any addiction activity. It is fighting b/w your mind and your greed. Your mind will say to stop gambling, but your greed will make you play gambling. You can handle this situation. If you can handle this situation means have self-control you can try to stop any addiction.

Yes our conscience is really hard to fight because even you really want to say that you are not going to gamble anymore. You mind will say, "Don't worry, it's fine you can quit tomorrow. Don't waste the chance of winning for this day." A gambler can't quit alone he needs to be guided by his friends, parents and other tools that can help him in quitting.
4699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you login to a gambling site with Twitter, Google or Facebook Id? on: February 07, 2017, 01:37:27 AM
I think most of the players do not really use a real account because it will show the identity. I have never played on the gambling sites that provide such an option. if there is, I would not use my fb or twitter

And no one wants to know and give our information to those social medias because they can simply add us up to their database linking to thousands of ads daily when they knew that we are into bitcoin gambling. This is really not a good idea for those casino's that are planning to link their site players to social media, because no one really cares for it and won't do this.
4700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: February 06, 2017, 09:18:29 AM
Best to invest.
Do not gamble all your btc away that is just the wrong thing to do. Wink

Exactly investing will be the best thing to do. But of course it depends on the investor or gamblers decision with their bitcoins. And for me, I'll go also with investment I have a mindset for securing and preparing my life for the next years and I can say that if I do have enough investment I can gamble all the way with the profit I got.
I agree with you it's better to invest than gambling, we all know that there are small chance that you can win in gambling even you have a skill you cannot still guarantee that you can win, well it's depends on you if you want to play and if you don't think that you are lucky then maybe just try gambling but it's not recommend for almost people here.
Indeed. Investing is the most profitable way of making money nowadays. Do not ever gamble as you can never ever win a single penny from the casino. The more you enjoy it, the more money it takes from you. There are only a few people on this planet who are capable of making money from gambling. Because of this fact, I choose to invest over gambling and whenever I find a potential project, I immediately deposit my money into it

I am not going to disagree with this, most of us really sees more benefit in investing. And if you are a certified gambler you can still use gambling as a source of your profit by just simply investing into their bankroll's that can give you some returns when the site is getting profit. Gambling will ruin your life if you don't know how to handle things and addiction.
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