I"ll bet all my CLAMs (I don't have any), that BAC comes back and says, "yeah, but CLAM has dropped 2/3 in price, so you owe me 3000".
I'm not saying that in the least bit. And the 1001 CLAMs was a tip for staking your CLAMs for you before Just-Dice had launched. There was never any hint that it was "a payoff" or "protection money". I wouldn't have accepted it if there was any suggestion that it came with strings attached. Maybe I missed the "verbal agreement" or whatever. It seemed to me like you were just very happy with the return you were making from staking: 23:57 <dooglus> Balance: 30009.7468575 CLAM 23:57 <dooglus> that's after I took off my 50% commission  23:57 <dooglus> also, http://privatepaste.com/[...] 23:57 <dooglus> is up to date 23:58 <BayAreaCoins> rofl that page was so big it made this shitty little Macbook pro have a stroke  23:59 <BayAreaCoins> Go a head and take 1000 for your self too on top of your 50% 23:59 <BayAreaCoins> fucking awsome dude 23:59 <BayAreaCoins> doog* --- Log closed Tue Nov 25 00:00:14 2014 --- Log opened Tue Nov 25 00:00:14 2014 00:03 <dooglus> yeah, every stake shown up as 2 lines: -5 then +6 00:04 <dooglus> you sure about the 1k? 00:04 <BayAreaCoins> 100% 00:07 <BayAreaCoins> (sorry on the phone about [...]) 00:07 <BayAreaCoins> (can prove this is me however if ever you need, but it is I) 00:08 <dooglus> I believe it's you 00:08 <dooglus> and thanks 00:08 <dooglus> (sorry got people here) 00:08 <BayAreaCoins> np sir 00:08 <BayAreaCoins> no worries 00:08 <dooglus> yeah, you staked 951 clams already 00:09 <dooglus> like over 3% of your total 00:10 <BayAreaCoins> Ya that is cray [...] 00:38 <dooglus> I took 1001: http://[...]/tx/e717d753d434552738710d08aeef32528db29300043658a0eb6f57cfc0ba9f58 because that way I didn't have to make change 00:38 <BayAreaCoins> Jesus doog I said 1000! (lulz jk ) cool ty 00:38 <dooglus> heh 00:38 <BayAreaCoins> Not many people will thank you for taking a tip bahahhaha 00:39 <BayAreaCoins> rofl but ty, I couldn't do what you are doing Unfortunately I can't post logs about rat4's dox, because no such conversation ever happened between us. xploited seems to think that creative found his name for you, but I wasn't party to that conversation. I'm going to make a post in the Scam section and we can move this muggy conversation over there. I'm going to search/think and see if I can find any further info on my end because my intentions are not to libel or extort you as state in the Just-Dice troll box. This isn't the first time not logging IRC has bit me in the ass dealing with shady fucks in crypto.... *sigh* By the way, on the topic of Doog... I don't really want to get involved between the spat with BAC but I'd like to point out that first of all, without Doog CLAM wouldn't be where it is today, it probably would have remained confined to obscurity without JD. He's done this community a service and I think BAC you yourself have profited greatly owing to this, and I believe a bit of respect or at least gratefulness is in order.
Also, it was Doog who pointed out the digger to the community in the first place if I remember correctly. We might have found out eventually anyways, but how long it would have taken for someone to realize this and make it public, we can only guess. I see no indication that Doog profited from his knowledge, ie he could have dumped a lot of clams before making this info public and panic ensuing. That in itself I think speaks volumes about his credibility.
Actions speak louder than words.
Dooglus has done a lot. He identified the person gaming the CLAM lottery to steal tens of thousands of CLAM, passed that information to the proper parties, opened Just-Dice, manipulated CLAM price, pointed out the digger (which Dooglus did sell CLAMS once identifying the digger and prior to his post) and now he's lobbying in favor of locking his casino in a firm grip of forever centralizing CLAM through ending digging. I just want my tip back is all because obviously we aren't on the same page about what it was about. Dooglus indian gifted KYLE, so of course the same will come in return. And the 1001 CLAMs was a tip for staking your CLAMs for you before Just-Dice had launched. There was never any hint that it was "a payoff" or "protection money". I wouldn't have accepted it if there was any suggestion that it came with strings attached. Maybe I missed the "verbal agreement" or whatever. It seemed to me like you were just very happy with the return you were making from staking:
I'm pretty sure that's what every crooked politician and other folks say as well when the truth starts coming out  |
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but still why FUD CLAM?
Not trying to "FUD CLAM". That sounds so high school datingish. |
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So you recommend people to sell clam yet you still paying 4x on your site?
Dooglus is fucking deep? he is leaving the choice to the community, you been butthurt since you dumped your clams cheap and you blame people.
Andu I really think you may actually be retarded or have a gas sniffing problem... My site pays .005 BTC per dig and sells them at market or holds/stakes them until it is profitable to sell. I'm not sure what cheap Clamcoins you are talking about that I sold... because I'm pretty positive I sold over 30,000 that I bought around Nov 23, 2014 for around .004-.009. I'm butthurt I paid tribute to some fucking asshole who has done nothing but shit on me for the past few months and now I want my shit back because I gave it to him with the idea of working together in harmony... I obviously don't have a contract of "I paid you over $10,000 worth of crypto (was worth at one point anyways... not now) and you be not a douche bag". If I paid anyone else a protection fee and they didn't protect (in fact "they" were the agressors)... I'd get my fucking money back from them too. It's not a big deal. |
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You wouldn't happen to have one of those low buy orders in at poloniex, would ya?
Most def not. My buy orders are for fresh CLAMs only through my personal site and we pay a flat .005 BTC per dig if the digger chooses Bitcoin for their dig. Can you explain what you are talking about so that others can understand?
Why should he give you money back? Why now?
That post will have it's own thread. I'm not going to talk back n forth about it here, but if a new thread is needed to be made in 48 hours then it will be done. (in the process of maying the thread)I don't imagine the Bitcoin community is going to take to kindly to what Dooglus did. MP already removed his WoT stuff from Dooglus long ago and I'm sure he had a itchy feeling something was fucked... which it was. |
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Dooglus I want my 3,000 1,000 CLAMs back from me paying you off for giving me insider information to shake Rat4 with his dox (provided to me by dooglus) and purchase 30% of the Clamcoins prior to Just-Dice launch. Please deposited to:
xS93qVJw4uypKmZjNKj8JgrgC2QQvxenWZ
Resulting in not giving my money back will result in negative feedback and other negative outcomes.
You have 48 hours from this post.
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Strongly advise selling CLAM.
Dooglus is off the fucking deep end and all of this is going to end badly.
The community obviously does not want the dig structure to change, but Dooglus and Company who made horrible trades are pushing this shit like crazy.
It's even at the top of the JD news feed.
Last night I was banned from JD and Deb said she is happy that they are pushing us away because we didn't agree with them... I would strong advise people to start flooding away from these people.
Dooglus is already starting to abuse his power across the board and I imagine this power trip will continue to grow.
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As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too. The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to. I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution. What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page? We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one. The dig rewards would look like this: May 2014 - 4.6 May 2016 - 2.3 May 2020 - 1.15 May 2028 - 0.575 May 2044 - 0.2875 May 2076 - 0.14375 May 2140 - 0.071875 How about we take your coins and cut them in half next year instead. Save CLAM by leaving it the fuck alone. ^ Second. Here here! or, "hear! hear!", as the case may be   |
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Kinda blown away by how bullish these quarter futures are on OKCoin.
Made a bit on a short, a long and now again a short down to the low $420's.
Squeezes incoming @ $423
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Confirmation that I will provide free escrow for this transaction if needed.
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As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too. The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to. I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution. What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page? We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one. The dig rewards would look like this: May 2014 - 4.6 May 2016 - 2.3 May 2020 - 1.15 May 2028 - 0.575 May 2044 - 0.2875 May 2076 - 0.14375 May 2140 - 0.071875 How about we take your coins and cut them in half next year instead. Save CLAM by leaving it the fuck alone. ^ Second. Here here! |
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As a Clam holder I would appreciate ending the digging process. Especially since it has been a while. People who are interested in Alt-coins probably have heard of clams by now. The end of digging could bring more interest and money into the coin.
Is it possible to prevent further digging though? Isn't digging just using a previously unused private key to move coins. So to prevent that we would have to remove the ability to send coins which were initially distributed but have yet to be moved?
Yes, and as a bitcoin holder I would like it if they stopped block rewards. We can stop staking for clams too. The whole point of clams is that they were fairly distributed, just because some have taken longer than others to dig theirs, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to. I agree that stopping the digs altogether is not the best solution. What about a halving of the Dig rewards in May 2016 (2 years from the launch date) as indicated in the previous page? We can expand this further that every subsequent halving would be twice the number of years as the previous one. The dig rewards would look like this: May 2014 - 4.6 May 2016 - 2.3 May 2020 - 1.15 May 2028 - 0.575 May 2044 - 0.2875 May 2076 - 0.14375 May 2140 - 0.071875 Ya I couldn't agree with this either because 2044 isn't a good year for me... You aren't going to rob people of THEIR "paper wallet" Clamcoins in this community I don't think.  Sry. Go try to get Bitcoin to remove their block rewards.  |
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5.25 billion new coins per year for eva atm. They should have kept max coins at 100 billion imo. Too much inflation is hurting the price. Preaching to the choir. I truly wouldn't be surprised if there was a under the table deal done between Jackson and Charlie Lee in regards to the merge mining set up. (I have no proof, but I was the first to tell Jackson about merge mining... 0 interest... meets Charlie Lee and tada... then puts distance between himself and the project.) |
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Speaking of Directbet. We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM. you forgot to add www.bustaclam.com to the list. bustaclam 2.0 is going live anyday now where you can invest clam in it. Ah shit you're right. Thanks! |
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Speaking of Directbet. We've removed the ads off www.Clamcoin.org and added a list of all the gambling sites that take CLAM. |
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What is best online clam wallet? I just do not want to download on my PC.
Just-dice.com and the most profitable way to dig your Clamcoins is to self affiliate and dig through Clamchecker.com. Good luck! |
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So you'll be voting for No Change then. That's your prerogative. Others may feel differently.
I don't get what's so bad about a halvening at the 2 year mark six months from now.. Especially when there are security risks involved. I don't believe there is any risk of loss of reputation for taking reasonable measures to protect the coin.
No, I'll be voting for no change unless security risks become security threats. We're not there yet, and there's no guarantee that we'll ever be. IMO protecting the coin is paramount, but this does not include its value. We owe it to the coin to let the market determine that aspect. CLAM is not just another shitcoin; let us not treat it as such. ^ If we get plowed by a dig and security becomes an issue... then what has to be done has to be done IMO. He gets heated at times. I find that engaging him while he's being like this tends to escalate things.0
I do need to work on getting so heated and thanks kindly for not engaging me. It feels like trying to paint a picture and some asshole with a spray paint can tries to fuck it up because "they" think their shitty little can will be worth more for scrap metal than the paint.  (probably how "they" feel about me  ) |
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Yeah, definitely unstable. You MAD bro? You sound a little upset... them .01 CLAMs not treating you well this week? *cues sad music* Not mad... more annoyed that people like you are even involved with this coin. CLAM is chalked full of loser fucks. So let me understand, you're against the idea of a community vote,
This isn't a democracy fuck face and the winners sold their CLAMs... so how are we going to take a community vote based on who holds CLAMs? you think it should be done the way you want because you're so fucking special?
I didn't make the rules... I'm not a dev... I'm not even a fucking mod on Just-dice... nor do I vote. Me being "fucking special" has nothing to do with the base fundamental rules of CLAM that we all were aware of. Fuck off yourself and come back when you're done with your little tantrum, or don't. Grownups are talking.
Spoken like a gentleman Your shit idea was shit in the troll box and it's shit here. Take your losses and stroll the fuck on. |
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BayAreaCoins, you sound unstable..
Nope just sick of loser fucks like yourself who bought at a shitty time trying to scam through fundamental rule changes. are you the digger or something?
Maybe I am.. maybe I'm not... maybe go fuck yourself. We had this talk in the troll box tonight with you on a different tag. You aren't sneaky.... your vote is not any more special than someone else's
I didn't say it was. Cute. Oddly, this would also give your website a "service" to offer - you would be staking initial outputs for users who do not have a desire to do so and charging a premium for that service.
My service offers something that is core to CLAM and we will continue to offer that service. Perhaps you could add to the community by actually offering a service. Don't fuck with the rules. CLAM is fine. I would be slightly interested to see what weight was proposed on staking 4.6 CLAMs...  (only for greedy purposes, but if y'all are being greedy... why not! Maybe I can make some moar!) |
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But, how about this for an idea? And it's just a thought I had, not a plan I intend to put into action. Comments appreciated!
There's my comments. Way sick of this fucking conversation. |
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Point your digs at me and "exploit" my services/affiliate system. 4.6 CLAM = .0059 BTC on Poloniex 4.6 CLAMS = .007 BTC on Clamchecker (with self affiliate) None of you give two fucks about the community. Just how best you can keep your coins "value" because y'all fucked up trading. Every person looking at digging who wants the best value on their coins should be using this service. Clamchecker.com is still not listed on the OP here and is still blackballed from the JD troll box.  |
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