There are probably about 7 running and 2 probably have dropped out this year (geistgeld and liquidcoin?). Due to the numbers none have them gained any traction, the numbers weaken them. If there were only 1 or 2 like namecoin and microcash, they would be a lot more powerful. The secret is out cryptocurrencies work. People are going to try to get in on the ground floor and start new coins. It seems you are offering request for help in the main coin, bitcoin. Maybe you can ask them directly for help.
that doesnt exist lol It will be released on the 10th!  |
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PP war nur als Info erwähnt worden |
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Hm... 41 aus 112 ist zwar "pech" aber nicht so unwahrscheinlich, dass es Betrug sein muss. Imho sind 112 Spiele zu wenig um eine tatsächliche Quote feststellen zu können... aber das ganze ist schon sehr interessant..
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"Hereingefallen"
Tut mir leid, netter kann man es nicht ausdrücken. Dies ist die beliebteste Masche Leute mit Bitcoins übers Ohr zu hauen (weswegen auch kaum einer Paypal nutzt!). Du bleibst im Endeffekt auf den Kosten sitzen und deine Coins sind auch weg.
Ich hoffe, dass das nicht zu viel Lehrgeld war, was du zahlen musstest. Benutze das nächste mal besser Websites wie mtgox oder Spendbitcoins - die sind seriösund zahlen auch im zweifelsfall mit SEPA aus.. was den Handel User zu User angeht... wenn es denn sein muss nim Bares oder irgendwas, was sich nicht zurückbuchen lässt.
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Du schliesst den FPGA mit einem USB Kabel an und startest die Ztex Software. Fertig. Einfacher als das Arbeiten mit GPU Minern.
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Also sogar ich hab mitbekommen, dass FPGA Ende des Jahres nicht "tot" sein wird und ich kenne BTCs erst seit zwei Wochen  An der Diskusssion, was von BFL zu halten ist möchte ich mich nicht beteiligen, da ich mich in der Materie noch zuwenig auskenne und nichtmal den Unterschied zwischen Quad-Boards, Singles und was es da sonst noch so gibt, kenne. Auf mich hat es den Eindruck erweckt, dass BFL relativ simpel anzuschließen ist und der Aufwand, den man bei den anderen Herstellern betreiben muss, um minen zu können deutlich größer. Gleichzeitig ist BFL am billigsten, dafür wirken die Geschäftspraktiken aufs gröbste unseriös, weil undurchsichtig, bzw. so fadenscheinig, dass einem schlecht wird Naja.. was ist einfacher anzuschliessen als das Ztex? Usb rein, power rein, miner starten - fertig. Da hat man selbst mit einer GPU mehr Probleme, da man da noch die richtige Treiber/SDK/Miner/Parameter-Kombi finden muss... Die Singles sind eindeutig kein schlechtes Produkt - aber hier gilt folgendes: Das Geschäftsmodell ist im besten Fall undurchsichtig, um das Wort unseriös zu vermeiden. Die Singles laufen auf FPGAs, deren Lebenserwrtung nur schlecht abzuschätzen ist, da sie NUR BFL nutzt. Es gibt schon gute Gründe, warum der S6 sonst übrall eingesetzt wird. Auch sind S6 Quads, wie Chefnet sie verkauft, nur unwesentlich teuerer und mindestens genauso schnell wie Singles. Man kann in zukunft auch weitere Geschwindigkeitszuwächste erwarten, da an denen noch aktiv weiter entwickelt wird (also an der Software) wohingegen Singles sehr bald auslaufmodelle sein dürften. Wie vor etwa 300 Posts geschrieben: Wenn du eine eigene Maschine zum Minen bauen musst, dann kauf dir lieber einen QUad S6 (egal von wem, aber Ztex baut wirklich gute Boards..) und du sparst massig Strom.. Wenn du aber sowieso einen neuen SPielePC brauchst besorg dir was vernünftiges mit 7970 und Mine damit.. und wenn du mutig bist, dann glaube an die Heilsversprechungen von BFL und warte bis mitte nächsten Jahres auf einen mit Laptop Netzteil betrieben USB Stick, der möglicherweise 2 oder 3GH Leistung bringt und das doppelte von dem Kosten wird, was du heute anzahlen darfst. |
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Es geht hier doch nicht um BFL, es darum, jemanden der die Materie noch nicht so richtig überblicken kann, zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt noch GPU und FPGA schmackhaft zu machen, obwohl jeder weiß, dass man mit denen am Ende des Jahres nichts mehr minen kann und die Investitionssumme auch nicht bis dahin erminen wird.
Ehrlich.. Es gab eine Ankündigung, dass wohlmöglich irgendwann ASICs von BFL verkauft werden könnten. Die genannten Werte sind überdies Fantasieprodukte, die in keiner bekannten fertigungstechnik so zu erreichen wären. Jemandem anhand derartiger Versprechungen andere, funktionierende, Produkte madig zu reden oder gar seriösesten Händlern Beschiss unterstellen zu wollen ist schlicht und einfach ein Zeichen von Blödheit. Back to topic.. |
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My Server shut down due to a hardware defect an hour ago and after getting its replacement i cant seem to start up bitcoind anymore:
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EXCEPTION: 11DbException
Db::get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found
bitcoin in AppInit()
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbException'
what(): Db::get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found
Aborted
Any fix for that?
*edit*
i think it is fixed now.. addr.dat was corrupted..
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Server is currently down to a hardware defect. It is being worked on already.
Working again.
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Useful little script :0)
I think this will be something to keep an eye on!
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how about a scorecoin? scorecoin can only be traded with virtual chains, not mined or bought with btc, and the top holders are the top players
scorecoin would reset every N timeframes and the top N players would get a small btc prize (a percentage of trade fees perhaps) pushing the price of virtual chains up as people chase the prize
I really like that idea... that might be what i need to make trading more interestering.. let me work that out on paper first though.. but i am very positive that this will come.. I also think it'd be better to leave it all free market, don't sell hardware/upgrades for virtual chains, only btc but let players sell them for virtual chains, so prices would be set by users (some trying for profit some trying to clear off old hardware)
I was thinking about a trade in option for vASICs later.. might take the opportunety and create a rig market rather than just a trade-in option.. how bout storage space? instead of limiting rigs to a hard number, have players start with a 'home' that can fit a few rigs in it, and have new storage for sale for bitcoins (And again player sellable for virtualcoins) could range from a small and cheap shed to an expensive huge datacenter (that because of extra cooling allows for extra upgrades) and people could have as many rigs as they want to pay for (more btc for the prizes for top scorecoin holders...) - hardware for sale takes up as much room as hardware in use... storage can't be sold if there are rigs in it
That idea is not bad.. but currently that hard limit of 30 (35) rigs was set due to two factors: Screen space in Desktop mode and the old "probability and payout"-code for coin generation.. as i change the second part anyway due to solo/pool mining i will rethink the limiting.. I'm not sure I understand the limits you have put on now... why not emulate bitcoin and just have the coin generation be set to Na blocks of Nb coins per Nc days(retargeting at end) and block generation halves every Nd days
this would give a limited supply and still last for as long as the game does without a few people having all of them
i try to emulate the way that bitcoin handles stuff... but it is hard to build one way that works for all chains so i decided to half block generation basically in the same fashion half-life times work. Every "half" time (so from first block to 50% of all blocks to be mined for example) you get the full amount of coins... the closer you get to the end though the less coins are paid out (just like with bitcoins). does that mean the most popular (meaning the least likely to be going to one user) chains pay less? and the chain that only has a few users gets more? so its bad for a chain to be popular?.... i don't think i get it
Not really.. it works for all chains the same. If you have a chain with 100 users it will run the same way as a chain with 5 users. Difficulty adjusts the speed in which blocks are found anyway. The coin generation is somewhat disconnected from that though. It will happen for every chain when they hit the "50% block" (..the 75% and 87.5% block) every time then the coin generation is halfed. Just like in Bitcoin basically. You start, for example, with 50 coins per block, after 50% of all blocks you will have a payout of 25 coins, then 12.5 coins per block... But i am open for suggestions on this particular feature. |
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i keep working on it.. i basically have a shop all done for it but the ability to cheat is still too big.. market regulatory stuff is something i look into but dont really know how to handle.. but i have some ideas there..
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This is a changelog for the upcoming Virtualminer update. Besides countless minor bugs and fixes i have also included some major changes that will fluently blend into the game. But since some of the changes (Pooling e.g.) will interrupt the current gameplay a bit, i will give people a chance to adapt to these changes. Therefore i will upload the update by Wednsday evening 8PM (CET) - so in roughly 50 hours. - Exchange Since there are a lot of smallish trades that are even worth less than a satoshi i decided to enforce a minimum trade volume of 0.0001 BTC per bid/ask. - Chains Every chain now has a upper limit for block generation. I have just given the existing chains a upper limit that is roughly 3x higher than the current block count. If you started one of the chains and want to have a different upper limite dont hesistate to contact me. I will change this of course. - Coin generation
In combination with the block generation limit i introduce now subsiedy cuts.. currently those are hardcoded.
Under 50% of all created blocks the payout is 100%
Between 50% and 75% payout per block is 50%
Between 75% and 87.5% it is 25%
After that: 12.5%
If a chain reaches the limit of the block amount no more coins get generated.This change was to come for a long while already. First of all it removes the absurd condition of having unlimited supply of coins and secondly it feels more realistic. Furthermore it allows users to have a early adopter Bonus without using pre-mines. - Pooling VS Solo mining One major step forwards, or rather towards a more realistic Cryptocoin experience is a new feature i will introduce soon. Pooling and Solo Mining. When this update pack is installed all miners will run solo. Every block you find will be given just to you. Currently every chain runs one big pool that proportionally pays the coins to all users mining it.. now with soloing and pooling you can decide which way you will go. Every user can create a pool and set the fee the way he wants and change the chain the pool is mining. Normal users can join and leave a pool anytime they want by selecting a pool instead of a chain in his rig managment window. - Rigs I have increased the maximum number of rigs to 35. - The next generation We have heard a lot about ASIC and FPGA Mining, about the death of bitcoin and microcash being the next big step in the world of crypto currencies.. that all is just rubbish! Here at Virtualminer we have a big announcement: Largest Virtual Mining solution ships new vASIC Mining rigs
(BITCOINTALK) June 25, 2012
Virtual Miner (Virtualminer Inc.), the market leader in virtual mining services, is unveiling today the technical specifications for three of its next generation virtual mining products:
1) Mothlabs Habanero: a single vASIC driven unit hashing at 10vGH (guaranteed!), priced at 0.07BTC
2) Mothlabs Single: a standalone unit providing roughly 40 vGH/s, priced at 0.25 BTC
3) Mothlabs Bug Bomb: a single unit containing a whopping 50 vASICs and running at 500 vGH/s, priced at 2.5BTC
"Virtualminer has always considered itself a serious simulation of real world crypto currency structures and scenarios and our customers are leaders in providing virtual hashing for great technological challanges," noted Nachtwind, head of Virtualminer. "I know that our vASIC linup is simply outpacing all available products currently available and I am proud we finally could make this giant leap forward."
Venture Capital Funding Acquired, Record Rate of First Quarter Growth
Virtualminer, the largest virtual mining game, is now backed by private venture capital, and looking forward to continuing its operations in what some have recently labeled the “Silicon backwater” of Germany.
Founded in 2011, Virtualminer is a worldwide leader in virtual mining gaming. The Game offers a lot of fun, a real mining experience, and a community of gamers who know that they spend their time at the right game.
“Virtualminer” and “Mothlabs” are trademarks of Virtualminer all arround the world.
Nachtwind
Virtualminer inc
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@Nachtwind: mhh und wann hast du deine Hardwarekosten wieder raus (break-even)?
Wie hoch waren die Anschaffungskosten?
Anschaffungskosten waren 135Eur. Die hatte ich nach etwa 5 Monaten raus. Danach habe ich ein wenig was zusammengespart um einen FPGA zu kaufen - der dürfte in knapp 6Monaten raus sein (nach derzeitigem Stand). |
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ich persönlich würde von Pyramining (oder allgemein allem, was PYRA im Namen hat) abraten.
Das ganze erscheint mir weiterhin als großes Pyramidenspiel mit dem einzigen Ausgang, den so ein System haben kann.
Ich habe selber im Moment nur 200MH und habe die bei der BTCGuild. Imho der beste Pool.
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... Adding another field is unacceptable since it will break ASIC miners.
Name one ASIC miner ... BFL SC, OpenASIC initiative, Vlad's something, Reclaimer. Not to mention old Artforz's 350nm ASICs. Yeah I meant one that exists. If bitcoin decisions are made based on unsubstantiated comments by companies like BFL - man are we in deep shit investing in BTC Might as well announce a ASIC that can contain up to three nonces and is modular enough.. would have the same backing as those of BFL and other companies.. Sorry.. turning down good ideas because some small fpga assembler (havent seen an asic yet!) announces some wonderhasher with non-meetable estimates is not a way to discuss the future of the whole project. What if someone had decided to change the bitcoin algo becaue GPU miners were invented? Should we end up like SolidCoin where important decision are made based upon childish ideologies? |
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Joup,
hol dir 'nen FPGA, weniger lärm, klein, wenig Stromverbrauch (auch wenn's Mutti oder wer auch immer Zahlt). ich glaub GPU Minen ist derzeitig nicht mehr so zu empfehlen (laut, groß, viel strom).
GPU ist noch immer 1. Wahl... aber FPGAs haben einen gewissen Reiz aufgrund der massiven Energieersparnis.. |
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was ist nc?
Wie soll das funktionieren?
Wie soll das wirklich funktionieren?
Wo bleibt die gerne gesehene annonymität?
Wie soll das nun wirklich funktionieren?
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Bei dem Geld würde ich dir ein wirklich simples 7970+billigesMobo/CPU System empfehlen...
oder aber du kaufst dir einen ZTEX Quad.. ist zwar nochmal hunder eier teurer aber du hast damit etwa 800Mh Sicher ohne größeren Stromverbrauch.
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