i posted in leaserig thread a month ago about why leaserig is abandoned by miaviator aka jonah today he deleted my posts and a bunch of others i dont get it its public info anyway A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Can't expect the auto pilot to work properly if the engine is unreliable and regularly cuts out.
The overall value of altcoins has fallen drastically since the site started. I'm guessing that leaserig's current commission income is probably not sufficient to encourage any further major development of the site.
yeah its a bit more complicated leaserig was bought by gaw which is not in the best shape right now miaviator is the new gaw ceo not sure where xmk3 is A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.
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Well, I have to go and prepare for another event. I must say, I was pleasant surprised about my short time.
I truly appreciate the respect you guys showed. Its altered my perspective on coming back here and answering questions. I hope that over time, I can prove to you guys that we are not out to scam anyone, and we really are trying to grow this industry.
thank you sir for your time
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I wouldn't unban him, the crap he's posting here is much more than a "history of disrespect". More like world of hate geez whats worng with you dude look at your own post history talk of hate good thing youre not running a forum youd be the only one there Maybe I should respond to hate with love? It must be your way but not mine. Most of my post history has nothing to do with feelings, but you haven't looked that far. Better check what that troll was saying. the only troll i see here is you everyones doing theyre best to participate in discusion even if they disagree youre just attacking people is this you https://hashtalk.org/user/bitgeekyoure on thin ice there with 20 rep
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Additionally, after reading through a few comments. It became clear there there are two very different kinds of posters here. There are some that only have the agenda of being a problem.
Sounds a lot like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressive_PersonSo will we be getting an explanation as to why you cannot disclose your mining address and/or payout from actual mining earnings or is "I have my reasons" as good as it's going to get? Use some logic. Do you really think it would make sense for us not to be mining for our customers? Do you it would make any sense for us to be so public, and attract all this attention, to not be doing something basic like mining? We are 100% prepared for any agency to come in and make us prove that every hashlet payout is backed up by a mining payout. I don't have to prove that to you, the understanding that if we are not are doing this, that would make us a security by definition and the price for selling a unregistered security is jail time is enough for me. I am pretty motivated to make sure we have the mining power we should have. what about hashpoints isnt that a loan obligation with a promise to buy back at large premium i know you have it covered with your lawyers just wondering that the legal definition is because most customers are probably not aware of this if hashpoints and paycoin conversion is defined somewhere in your tos please point that out i cant find it
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I wouldn't unban him, the crap he's posting here is much more than a "history of disrespect". More like world of hate geez whats worng with you dude look at your own post history talk of hate good thing youre not running a forum youd be the only one there
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I can tell you as of this morning, we are producing almost twice the payout amounts we need to meet the requirements of our customers.
This last part is irksome because you have not "adjusted" payouts on Zenpool or lowered maintenance fees even though both have been discussed. Surely you have achieved scale enough to bargain for cheaper electricity rates that should be passed along to the miners. You are correct in this. I have am planning on changing this entire structure very soon. I am making all the maintenance changes at one time. good to know one last thing whats todays big announcement dont worry you can tell us in secret nobody from ht is reading this anyway thanks
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Want the honest answer? I have no interest in people knowing how much power we have. I have my reasons for it, and its ok if they are not good enough for you. But I think much differently then you might, I have different goals.
I can tell you as of this morning, we are producing almost twice the payout amounts we need to meet the requirements of our customers.
fair enough does that include only btc payouts or hashpoints as well and how much % total hashpower is directed at hp pool
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For example, I consistently see you guys talk about "every" person that talks negatively getting censored, yet there are negative comments about us all over the place on the HT. Additionally, I just counted all the people that have ever been banned by me, and its less then 100 users, which represents less then 1% of the active users there. How is that "everyone"?
why do you use shadow bans and what are specific criteria there dont say respect and off topic i havent seen any beetroot posters being banned yet so theyre must be something else
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Notice that when I defend the companies position, I typically use numbers and facts. Most of the posters here just make things up, focus on what supports their position and ignore the things that don't. You guys were all over our TOS with it mentioned virtual miners, and now that it references physical miners, no one brings it up anymore? Focus on what makes us look bad, and ignore the things that don't.
i dont think there needs to be obligation for a critic to also post positive things its called a debate or discussion both sides state their arguments there is nothing wrong with this You guys still claim we have no miners, based on what proof? Because I refuse to not disclose my total Hash rate? Right......it makes more sense to believe that I don't really have any (despite all the pictures, etc) and for some reason I spend millions on miners that I never hook up. Then to believe that I don't disclose it for competitive reasons? And you guys wonder why I do not not address any of your questions?
can you elaborate what competitive reasons could there be i cant come up with anything that makes sense obviously youre mining btc you bought antminers obviously you need to have a lot of phs what else could a mining address disclose
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this is freaky
did gaw buy bitcointalk
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You know I'm looking here to see what pool to double dip and noticed a discrepancy: http://cryp.today/On Zen you'll see Waffle listed at: 0.00027315 BTC But on Cryptoday you'll see that Waffle was clearly not that low and hasn't been for awhile. Yesterday Waffle should have been .00031300 So, are they pulling these numbers out of their ass or somewhere else? I think all his ideas and plans come from there. And yes the "payout" figures have nothing to do with reality. I'ts just what they decide to pay at a given time, Makes people think they are "mining" I know that but they can't just make up numbers that Waffle posts clear as day. If people don't notice these things or do and are OK with that they are getting screwed and deserve it. All those pennies add up. I also inquired and was told that GAW updates and posts Average Payout Rates(APR) much later after payouts have been made when they feel like it or get around to it. That sure does leave a whole lot of time to adjust those APR's to match the actual payouts. Seems that it should work the other way around and APR's should precede actual payouts. The numbers to be used to calculate APR's has to be known before actual payouts are calculated. Take a look at http://poolpicker.eu/table?algo=scrypt. It lists that WafflePool for 10-16 was 0.00026315 and MultiPool was 0.00039223. These are the current rates for for yeah im pretty sure they use poolpicker or take the rates from pool sites the same way poolpicker does not sure why they bumped waffle up by 0.00001 maybe to avoid going negative after fees but it wasnt really that close to going negative
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Yeah that Volder guy sure moved up in the ranks fast, 1 day he selling out of the private market place, next day he's a full blown dealer. go to be something behind that.
Dude has been an insider since the beginning, I thought everyone knew that? Anyway, on a positive note the marketplace is working because I've sold about 75 primes so far today so that's cool. I'm going to buy some Zens with half of the BTC and use the other half at LTCgear. Any word on why Zens are off the Hash Market? And when and why prices dropped on Zencloud again? jmordica posted on ht before it went down something about ilegitimate zens i guess similar issue like with primes
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trouble is some dont show their badges like this lizard guy i only recently found out hes a reseller too Don't know why it would be a "trouble" that I don't have a reseller patch (besides my signature). However, it has been requested a while ago and simply not applied yet by the powers up above. I hope this provides some comfort. oh great i hope you didnt bring your hammer cause i really dont wanna leave this thread with ht still down and whatnot if you dont see how its a conflict of interest to be reseller and moderator then the badge of course doesnt matter like in that thread about prime sale for 70 bucks you shouldve just recused yourself from that discusion instead of pushing to where it ended in bans why didnt you?
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Yeah "HASHPOINTS" the almighty thing that people fight over. Josh has stated for well over a month ago that "hashpoints" would be used in the mythical "project Prime" but so far zip nada on both counts. I sold everything I had but held on to the Primes waiting for this Project to appear. It was all supposed to start OCT23rd. but I guess now its a big secret, and doesnt look like its going to happen. So ill give them till the 23rd when they boldly exclaim :" Everything will Change" at if that doesnt happen I'm out of there.
its now q4 not 23rd anymore so could be around christmas
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what were the nicks of those banned accounts and what did you exactly ask?
I'm trying to distance myself from GAW yet at the same time trying to figure out the best way to achieve that financially. I left out many specifics on purpose. However, my initial HT account name was the same as it is here. I learned a lot since that first account and changed my posting strategies as necessary. I've PM'd others on HT that had their entire Zencloud accounts "mysteriously" frozen for speaking out. I most certainly do not want that to happen on top of everything else going on. You stay logged into HT after you get banned and can still PM and up-vote. At least I and a few others could. Once you log-out you can't log bag in. You can create a new HT account and use it to up-vote your old(banned) one and still earn Hash Points(up to 20 a day). They get credited to your account on Zencloud. Once they post you can change your Zencloud email to the new email you used to create a new HT account and off you go. EDIT: Some of my HT accounts have had some of their posts remain. Others have had all of the posts removed. man you have this whole strategy worked out i was only temp banned once by volder waited my two weeks and learned the lesson im not engaging any mods or resellers or the ceo for any reason anymore even if they step into a thread where ive been posting ill just turn around and leave these guys are not impartial they just protect the business above all trouble is some dont show their badges like this lizard guy i only recently found out hes a reseller too
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I'm going to be a lot more shocked if GAW isn't some form of Ponzi scheme. I have had a handful of accounts on HT banned for merely questioning GAW's practices. I've created accounts, knowing they'd be banned, for the sole purpose of asking 1 question or making 1 statement(NOT rude in any way shape or form) and watched them shadowbanned within minutes. They didn't even exist long enough to earn many downvotes and in some cases got upvotes but ultimately got banned anyways. If you create a new account you basically have to walk-on-eggshells building up a reputation before ever questioning anything about the almighty GAW. I have 5 tickets open dating back to August 5th and not a single one has been resolved.
BEING PROCESSED Created on Tue, 14 Oct PAYOUT UNDER REVIEW Created on Sun, 5 Oct Agent: Payout BEING PROCESSED Created on Sat, 27 Sep Agent: Luke BEING PROCESSED Created on Sat, 27 Sep Agent: Justin BEING PROCESSED Created on Tue, 5 Aug Agent: Amanda
Hashlets operate as if they are a share of some overall hashrate ultimately owned and controlled by GAW. They say it is not. I've had Founders and Mod's tell me that the reason that some of my Hashlets under-perform(earn less BTC) than others of the same or lesser hashrate mining the same pool is because they are pegged to specific hardware miners. Now that is just absurd. So I question them and GAW Support how is it that they can under-perform AND simultaneously incur higher maintenance fees. Maintenance fees are based solely on hashrate. So if my Hashlets, pegged to a specific hardware miner, earn me less BTC then they must be operating at a lower hashrate and also must incur a lower maintenance fee because of that lower hashrate. Obviously I've never got an explanation on HT and none of my tickets have been resolved.
yeah its a bit odd that the fee is advertised 0.08 usd per mhs and they charge exactly 0.08 every day but the payout is not the same even if you have two identical hashlets on the same pool im sure it averages out over a long period but they shouldnt bother with this artificial variance just too much confusion they should just pay out exactly the same amount per rated mhs also this whole pool naming is odd they say they dont mine on those pools but most users believe they do mine because of the names
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I don't know about anybody else, But I invested about $300 USD in zeushash the first day they launched the cloud on OCT 3, now two weeks later I can say with utmost certainty that I will never see my money back. I like the site it's clean and I like the consistent payouts, but they are wayyyyyyyy too small for me to ever see a return
so how did you decide to invest did you do the math or something changed in two weeks?
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And it turned out to be a scam...as I thought.
surprising it lasted so long i remember i looked at them in may or june and thought this cant be real sorry for all who lost their money
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Hashtalk is down yet again? It would be funny if it weren't so sad...
maybe tripped the breaker when tried to plug in all those s3 seriously its a bit worying that either withdraws or forum or something else is down every day wanted to buy some zens and there is nothing in marketplace afraid to post on ht already been banned once by mod reseller hopefuly the new hashbase will be solid
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how much do you pay for power
difference between gaw and sf is 450kwh per month
lets say you pay 0.25 usd per kwh thats 110 per month
will take 7 months for the gaw miner to burn the 750 difference in price
both miners will be worthless before then
run the numbers through any profit calculator and youll see
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