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I'm sure I've seen this somewhere.. does anyone know where it is, or who made it?
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why no avalon 66GH/S or 88GH/S unit? it is cause they don't open new batchs? And we can't buy?
They are still up on the website, but it's not obvious if they actually have plans on selling more. I have the 88 still underneath the chart.. I'll put it back in if there is more information.
Hi,
sorry for asking again.
Am i right that the ROI isnt ROI in terms of a percentage gain or loss as compared to the price of the miner? Its just the amount of BTCs that are gained or lost in a certain period of time?
Greets
ImI
Yes that sounds right. I must have misunderstood the question last time. |
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Hi,
could you add the Bitmine.ch Batch#1 to your sheet?
Price: $6,739
Performance: 88 GH/s
Expected delivery: first week of august
I'll look into it, thank you. May take me 6 hours to get back to the computer though. so many devices bases on avalon chips. they should be marked
That's not a bad idea considering that the chips are a bit late. Going to have to push them back a month or two if they don't deliver soon. |
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Wait a sec. "The second coming" is saying that we don't need to co-opt an old religion? Not that I'm disagreeing, we don't even know the full consequence of bitcoin yet... but isn't your whole post in Christian format?  |
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Yeah doc, just no way to give a good estimate on this. ASICminer Block Eruptor is 1.99BTC, not 2.6?
Thanks a lot! I can't imagine how that happened. <3 to everyone helping, I couldn't do this without you. |
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It would be nice to think that, but I don't see anyone else jumping up and down, as they would be, if they got their shipment. Where does this leave us? Are we destined to allow the large players and companies to take control? How can bitcoin stay decentralized if the only miners we can get have negative ROI?
This is awful!!
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That's the million dollar question... are they going to deliver? I haven't even seen confirmations on the sample chips yet........
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Do you take Visa?  <3 Never seen this one. Thanks k9! |
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Lol, good job with the pic btw.. . if everyone else is like me they drooled and started up their wallet to see if they had enough |
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Aww, I'm sure they'll be sold out before I can get my BTC |
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Proudmary keep on burnin.
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lol fox.. I almost started a spreadsheet for this, then thought better of it. I decided I'd just play what seemed like the best play from memory. Kind of a natural method. Before ledgers |
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Hi, I'm watching a lot of lists right now, I missed if Noitev mentioned what country they are shipping from. I have it posted at the quoted 282 MH, but ASICminer is getting 336 from theirs... and while we're at it has anyone quoted wattage for the K1 yet? Check out my chart and check my work on the spreadsheet |
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Be carefull with units of measure. I'm using GH:
your coins per day = 5 GH (yours) / 100 000 GH (total) * 3600 btc = 0,18 btc
Or using difficulty, but with Hashes as units:
your coins per day = (5 000 000 000 H (yours) * 600) / (2^32 * 14 000 000 (diff)) * 3600 btc = 0,1796 btc
Wow you're right.. I was using MH vs H. Ok glad I figured you pointed that out. Will be great to see how the equations come out with a new setup. This is a really nice effort. I believe the difficulty increase will average in the 13-18% range, with occasional jumps higher. Keep up the good work.
Yes I agree that it's very unlikely to go to 28% or anything near that, but if a lot of the growth for the next year is weighted toward the beginning of the period it could end up looking similar to a 20 something percent rise. |
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your coins per day = (your hashrate / total hashrate) * total coins per day
I used that formula and found to be quite correct. Total hashrate is the hashrate at the time last difficulty was calculated. Total coins per day is now at 3600 (25 btc * 1 blok every 10 minutes). For a 5GH miner: your coins per day = 5 / 100 000 * 3600 = 0,18 btc Ok so maybe my problem is that I'm dividing by total hashes. You calculate with MH? I mean that does make sense as far as the numbers come out, just didn't see it coming for the equation. if I read the table correctly, for all those shipping ones, nothing is profitable for a year!
That's right. Shipping ones are either old tech (fpga), or ASICs, but with prices set so high that ROI is not possible (ASICMiner Blades). A couple have the ability to make it up in the second year.. but yeah it's looking like we have to wait as the big players are pushing prices up so high. I the whole community is getting a little frustrated at being pushed aside. I started a new project to try to get the hashing power out to the public. reat incentives, and a |
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I keep trying to add them to the chart, but as I look around all of their details seem strange. Why is the first price always mentioned the $18/GH? The actual machine cost always looks like it was added as an afterthought. The listed power consumption says .7W/GH. Wouldn't that be 1428 MH/W? That would be over 1400% higher than the others in the market. Again, difficult to find the actual spec here. There was a warranty situation that was completely incredible. They say that since then lawyers have gotten involved and told them this was unreasonable. Now no protection is given to consumer. They are taking money for preorders.August is very soon to be putting out a miner that is so fast, cheap, and power saving. Everything seems too good to be true. They did have someone come in and say they've been working on it for a year already, though. I can't add this manufacturer until some of these questions are answered. Even then the preorder status set to GOGOGO makes me question them. If you are the go between naima53, I would appreciate it.. otherwise I will try some google translator in a couple days These are my questions, you can decide if they are valid. |
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I hope this works out for you naima, I wasn't trying to question your business. I just think it would be good to be cautious about Bitfury at this point.
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