A 10-20 % ROI with divs would bring the price up 50-100X ICO.
This is an epic milestone in crypto-investing... c-ya @ the Lambo dealership. Should I choose my LAmbo already? Yes but remember you are not allowed to choose the colour. To order: Login > Account > Lambo > GiveAway
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"An alleged mentor and business associate of a man accused of defrauding up to 10,000 customers is hoping to leave some legal problems behind..."Hope Stuart, hope...
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goddamit I invested in Lisk in iconomi, but because of Lisk going down the shitter my investment is evaporating. Goddamn you Lisk you're fucking me even in afterlife. Why on earth did you invest a volatile asset into another project? Don't you known Lisk is currently subject to fluctuation? Anyway since you've dumped your Lisk elsewhere, I guess we won't see you for a while... Goodbye & All the best for now
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Dont know why users are getting that impatient with bounties.... They probably got infected with this new highly degenerating disease: GBHS (or Greedy Bounty Hunter Syndrome...)
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we have a serious bankproblem here...I wasn't expecting the "deutsche-bank-crash" as soon... What problem are you talking about? The Deutsche Bank's one? Everything's fine mate! Don't worry... The bank has made over €1.8 trillion over the past decade & the IMF believes DB is the biggest net contributor to global systemic risk. All the biggest funds management firms in the world have made billions with DB and all it's managers have filled their pockets as much as they could (before leaving of course...) And now that DB is on the verge of collapse, The EU will bailout them up by taxing your miserable salary! Everything will be alright Are a serious? I am not joking, the fiat money is dead soon or later... http://www.finanzen.at/aktien/Deutsche_Bank-AktieWTF , I am not trolling here!! look at the chart, and now....$14 billion punishment... http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/09/deutsche-bank-worry-collapse/502463/The German bank’s shares reached historic lows this week after a $14 billion settlement request by the U.S. Ive been satirical mate! Off course I'm well aware of the world financial state, but what worries me the most is how those who caused the collapse of DB have enriched themselves and left the sinking boat a long time ago and will go unpunished while the ones who will pay off DB's rescue deal are the honest citizens. That's all!
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so 10,504,057.10 USD is the final balance or there is still some unconfirmed fiat deposits?Any official price announcement for 1 ICN=BTC
No they gave themselves few more days for last minute SEPA & SWIFT transfer.... The market will determine the price once the token will be released (in approx 8 days...)
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When will the coin be distributed? Should I download Ethereum now, or can I leave on my ICO page? Will I still get dividends if I leave it there?
Log in to https://ico.iconomi.net and check the FAQ.... It's all there!
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Will the Ethereum or Mist wallets recognize and display Iconomi tokens for itself or will we have to do some kind of ...what? And Ethereum tokens in the same address, obviously. Thanks.
Yes the Mist wallet will recognise the token and display you ICN balance. ICNs will be issued with the deployment of a smart contract on the Ethereum network and transferred to an Ethereum address that users will be able to provide through the ICONOMI website interface (ico.iconomi.net). Users who fail to do so will be able to access their ICNs via the ICONOMI website itself.
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Looking to buy-in @ 50% of ICO price. Any exchanges yet?
yeah sure! try mtgox.com, crispy.com or xpy.io hurry up while stock last
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we have a serious bankproblem here...I wasn't expecting the "deutsche-bank-crash" as soon... What problem are you talking about? The Deutsche Bank's one? Everything's fine mate! Don't worry... The bank has made over €1.8 trillion over the past decade & the IMF believes DB is the biggest net contributor to global systemic risk. All the biggest funds management firms in the world have made billions with DB and all it's managers have filled their pockets as much as they could (before leaving of course...) And now that DB is on the verge of collapse, The EU will bailout them up by taxing your miserable salary! Everything will be alright
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I'm not used with Ethereum , not even used with Altcoins so please bear with me. I invested on this ICO and I see people saying that we should download Mist which is supposed to be an Ethereum wallet but once I get to Github repository (Releases page) : https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases , there is both Ethereum wallet and Mist , so which one I should download ? I also want to know , to receive dividends , should I withdraw ICNs to my Ethereum wallet or keep them on the Iconomi.net account ? Am I dreaming or what? Are Hero Members becoming worst than Newbies now?
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So I don't know what the next step would be for the plaintiffs in this regard... The plaintiff's lawyer didn't play all it's cards yet... Remembre we are at the préliminaire hearings and there is much road to do. We can all be confident that the plaintiffs' lawyer is well aware of all the evidences against Fraser & Garza and that in due time they will use concise arguments. Besides, what matter the most from a lawyer's point of view is to drag a case on and on so as to inflate the fees! And that's exactly what's happening. I worked for a lawyer in the past and trust me I know what I'm talking about. This first motion (and not the last) has already cost uncle Stue at least 5K!
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Good luck for us guys I am an ICN investor (and hodl my LISK too). Wise decision mate! Never put all your eggs in the same basket
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I hope the plaintiffs' lawyers can come up with a good enough response for the case to go forward. Would be weird if this gets thrown out. Yeah it will move forward. The plaintiffs' lawyer (Susman and Godfrey) toke the case on a "no win no fee" basis and I doubt they would do so without a careful and thorough consideration of all the facts. At the end, if they loose against GARZA/FRASER, they don't just loose a possible compensation but credibility as the No. 1 boutique litigation law firm in the states. Looking forward to the plaintiff's motion now...
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I would exercise some prudence before trading with Liqui... Nothing proves that they can backup any trade after all... This account is anonymous, thus risky!
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So what's the outcome? Dismissed or laughed at?
Fraser's lawyers submitted a huge "memorandum" explaining why they think this case should be dismissed. I guess now the other side has to respond by October 18. Document here: http://ia601502.us.archive.org/26/items/gov.uscourts.ctd.112576/gov.uscourts.ctd.112576.42.0.pdfOther case documents here: http://ia601502.us.archive.org/26/items/gov.uscourts.ctd.112576/gov.uscourts.ctd.112576.docket.htmlEdit - some quotes for those who are too lazy to open the PDF: Plaintiffs accuse Fraser, a minority investor in the Companies, of participating in an alleged scheme by Garza and the Companies to defraud investors. They lard their accusations of control person liability with references to Fraser’s occasional requests for information about the Companies’ performance and business, his business relationship and friendship with Garza, and conclusory catch-all allegations against Garza and the Companies, into which they conveniently group Fraser. The correspondence between Garza and Fraser to which Plaintiffs point, however, demonstrates that Fraser did not have the power to direct the management and policies of Garza and the Companies. Rather, that correspondence reinforces Fraser’s limited role as a minority investor who did not control the Companies’ daily operations, set their policies or determine how their policies would be implemented. Furthermore, Plaintiffs’ Complaint does not plead with the requisite particularity that Fraser engaged in “culpable participation” in a primary securities violation, which is also fatal to their Section 20(a) claim. Plaintiffs’ state law claims suffer similar deficiencies. Accordingly, the claims against Fraser should be dismissed. The article noted that Fraser was “backing Mr. Garza” and was “a long-time backer of Mr. Garza’s projects,” but contains no suggestion that Fraser held any role within the Companies other than that of a financial investor.
(this is in reference to the WSJ blog shill piece) The Complaint fails to state a claim against Fraser because Plaintiffs have not alleged, with sufficient particularity, facts from which it could properly be inferred that Fraser controlled a primary violator — here, Garza and the Companies — and culpably participated in the alleged fraud. Plaintiffs do not allege a single policy, procedure or method of operation undertaken by Garza or the Companies that Fraser directed or controlled, as the law requires. See In re Alstom, 406 F. Supp. 2d at 487. Plaintiffs do not allege that Fraser held any voting rights in the Companies, nor do they allege that a contract or other agreement exists between Defendants that would grant him any such power. They do not allege that Fraser asked for — let alone received — any power, rights or position in exchange for his minority investment in the Companies. See In re BioScrip, 95 F. Supp. 3d at 740 (having “a great deal of sway” did not “rise to the level of actual control”). In short, Plaintiffs do not allege a single cognizable fact demonstrating that Fraser actually possessed the ability to direct the actions of Garza or the management and policies of the Companies. See In re Flag, 352 F. Supp. 2d at 458 (exercising “powers of persuasion” does not establish “actual control”). And it goes on like that. Thanks Suchmoon for the summary. So basically Fraser is dissociating himself from this mess...
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@ICONOMI: Some of our Lisk Community members would like to know, what you'll do with the invested LSK. Can you say something about this? Thanks in advance!
Interested on the subject as well
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