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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The bottom is near... on: November 28, 2018, 06:59:38 AM
Yeah, bottom is close and somewhere here. I've just made a bet with my friend. I claim that market cap won't decrease lower than 100 bln.
If it won't drop and make +50bln to market cap,then I am a winner

I’ve seen lots of these bets go wrong because the bottom is impossoble to predict. You can just as easy go to the casino and bet everything on black.
If that's your kindset, I can't prevent you to say that mate. We're already at the bottom of everything right now, and despite of how the market behaves uncertain and unpredictable we still have the postive signs that we'll be heading up towards better future of crypto. Overcome fears by looking on much better perspectives.

All the numbers we say now are just speculation and exercise for the mind, because none of us can ever know for sure; it can happen that 1/200 who write in this or other similar threads indivina the exact price, but it will only be simple luck.

The wise thing we can do, after an 80% discount and a record overbeard, is to come back slowly, staggering the entry at different points in time, over several months, so as to have a better average in case it should continue his descent.

482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SAFECOIN speculation on: November 27, 2018, 08:41:24 PM
Last Sunday the Safecoin team finally announced the creation of SafeNodes; 3 levels for 3 different profiles of investors and users.
T1 to 10000safe
T2 to 50000safe
T3 to 100000safe
The launch probably shortly, in the second half of December.



As always, the best way to stay updated is on the channels
discord https://discordapp.com/invite/vQgYGJz
twitter https://twitter.com/SafeCoins
site web https://safecoin.org/
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | EDO |EIDOO Wallet - Hybrid Exchange - Marketplace| OVER 80k ETH RAISED | on: November 27, 2018, 05:29:08 PM
This Ekon (EKG) coin have any relation with EDO token? How they will distribute EKG coins? And where this trading? I cant find EKGon coinmarketcap  Huh

You do not yet know all the details of the EKON agreement with Eidoo but surely you will be able to trade in Eidoo's Dex; at the moment you can only book the Ekon on their site

https://ekon.gold/
here you will also find all the information you want because you do not yet know all the details of the agreement

No, I want to know which advantages will have EDO token holders? I have some EDO tokens, but now they created second type of tokens. So EDO have liquidity now or not?

What are you talking about? Why not read the site, blogs and updates instead of spreading bullshit!
1) Token Eidoo is already present in large exchanges as Binance, Okex, Bitfinex, and there you will find all the liquidity you want!
2) Token Eidoo is used for various services such as ico exclusive on Icoengine, hybrid exchange already present in the App and centralized exchange launched soon https://nexex.io/, credit cards that will come, marketplace, etc.
3) there is no second token! where did you see or read it? Ekon is a token independent of Eidoo!

For every service and use that will be done, Eidoo is consumed and 50% of all tokens are burned forever and eliminated from the total supply, as has already been done in the past.


no need to expect Eidoo who will give a card like Centra who has a fraud case,
Eidoo is silent for a month without any development updates, this is a pity

The Eidoo team is working as it has always done in the last year, maintaining and respecting commitments with investors; there has never been and there will never be any fraud from Team Eidoo!
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XLM] Stellar - Decentralized trading platform on: November 27, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
It's wonderful to see Stellar is move to 4th position but this is just beginning of the great journey. I think it will grow rapidly in coming days and future will be more brighter than ever. It is good reason to pick more in current drop.

Stellar even didn't fall a lot like other currencies last this days. May be because big corporation like Micrisift supported them and dont give price to fall... Huh
You are right, Stellar still stand for a good coins. Just had decrease value in usd and keep reach up for good value in (BTC).

Does is an effect by given away $125,000,000 at airdrop ongoing?

Oh, Im forgot about this airdrop. is this still available? And how many XLM they giving for each person? They said about airdrop for 5 mln people and 25 usd for each. but I dont think that all 5 mln people will request for airdrop. So this amount will be divided among existed participiants and may be we will have more than 25 usd?

https://blog.blockchain.com/2018/11/06/we-always-put-users-first-and-now-we-have-125m-ways-to-show-it/

This was the announcement made last November 6 by the Blockchain company, and is a simple marketing operation to acquire other users for its platform; a simple exchange of our data, given / sold for $ 25 in XLM.

Blockchain will essentially make an airdrop for $ 125 million of Stellar coin to all customers who register and make Kyc on its platform.

I do not give my details for $ 25 Wink
485  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 27, 2018, 01:32:43 AM
Un pò di storia: il primo articolo della lunga serie "La bolla è scoppiata, bitcoin è morto..."

Titolo: "Bitcoin implode, cade più del 90% dal picco di Giugno"

Data: Arstechnica 18/10/2011.

Prezzo di chiusura di quel giorno: 2,42$

Potrebbe essere stato scritto ieri  Grin

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/10/bitcoin-implodes-down-more-than-90-percent-from-june-peak/

Beh, che dire... confortante!
Scossoni di questo genere fanno impressione a chi non li ha ancora vissuti.
Leggo questo forum anche per cercare support al mio hold selvaggio.


Se non hai già venduto qualche mese fa, meglio diversi mesi fa, ora "è assolutamente inutile e controproducente" ( le virgolette si riferiscono salvo casi particolari di urgenza per liquidità e necessità familiari imprescindibili); faresti ciò che le grandi baleni e manipolatori del mercato cercano e sperano in questi casi.

Tutto ciò travalica il -80% fatto finora e il -40% nelle ultime due settimane, ma ciò che è "anomalo" è che abbiamo un ipervenduto a livelli che non si vedevano dal 2011; neanche nel ribasso del 2014-15, molto speculare a questo per certi versi, si è toccati questi livelli così bassi.
Ciò che stupisce è che in passato livelli sotto i 20 di RSI sono stati accompagnati da pronte reazioni, con volumi e prezzi, mentre ad oggi, finora, stazioniamo ancora sui minimi circa, senza avere una degna reazione, di prezzi e volumi.

486  Economy / Speculation / Re: Summary Present Day > July 2022 on: November 27, 2018, 12:49:25 AM
Prices hit the 112 terminal bottom yesterday so this might be it. But there are fundamental indicators that suggest a change in sentiment, so especially BTC and ETH are a little toxic for now. Some alts at this level should yield x200 within a year or two, I am not sure exactly which ones but have a stake in some.

If we don't rally towards 422 immediately, the level around 4000 +-15% will range for a few weeks or months.

Could wick to 1200 -1500 btc to affirm may 2017 trading session pre tether, 40-60bn global. Possibly include organic market growth on top of this number with adjusted bottom, equivalent to 50% higher ($1800-2250 btc).

I find your analysis interesting, as well as bizarre, and it is right that you slightly adjust your prediction as prices and waves form.

If you have analyzed other blockchain projects, which ones can you think are the ones with the best potential to express: VeChain? Tezos? Stellar? Iota? Neo?
Do you have any suggestions or are you heavily invested in any of them, or others?

487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | NEO Smart Economy⚡Now a Top 10 Cryptocurrency⚡| Official Thread |Updated Aug10 on: November 26, 2018, 10:08:55 PM
i believe in neo and the future it has. i just keep adding to my bag slowly and allow the gas dividends to add up for the future.

Everyone want to make profit in this world and this is game of money this project has good support so let's see when next rally will get started. At the moment we are just picking dip after dip without any mercy and no sign where it will get stopped and it will start moving in up direction.

We all wait for the next rally and NEO  has very good community and dev team, but I don't think we will se again $190 per coin, at least since Da Hong Fei is more involved in ONT than in NEO. Just my 2c.

Da Hong Fei is a great Chinese investor and has a lot of money invested in many other projects, not only in Neo and Ont (for example in Elastos), and this is normal for big investors, as it should be for us too. ... split the portfolio into different projects.

I believe that if you have the patience to wait 4-5 years, you will see a price much higher than $ 190; team, community and platform is here to stay and grow, becoming among the best blockchain!
488  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2018 Cryptocurrency Crash (Elliott Wave) on: November 26, 2018, 07:43:48 PM
interesting... you point that one wave can last one and a half year while the other one lasts 1 month?
Not using log scale either makes your TA looks really bad.

Price/structure precedes time priority under Elliott Wave analysis. Exponential waves usually occur quicker in time; whilst corrective waves tend to elapse longer in time often dwindling sideways.

The Fibonacci relationships between the waves remain unchanged whether using either logarithmic or linear charts.


Last November 4th you had left open two possible scenarios



Now, after the last and decisive market movements, I see that you have chosen for the corrective hypothesis?
Do not you think that it can be a false correction to blow up many open positions, and from now on will simply make a series of ups and downs for a few months, exhausting even more investors, holders and mining farms?

Do not you think that a market and a coin that falls for three consecutive years can completely die, and never recover again?

489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Exchange KuCoin and KuCoin shares on: November 26, 2018, 06:15:54 PM
KCS really is not a good altcoin. Its volume level is always normal. We should invest in Binance instead of investing in KCS. Despite being a founding member, I think they are more interested in developing Binance.

The whole market has been falling for months and even the volumes of all the other exchanges have been reduced; exchange Binance and his token are different from the KuCoin exchange and his token, for this you would do well to keep both if you can.

The exchange and the team is among the best, always available with users, with a good level of internal security, and with continuous updates and supports to the fork and the mainet of the Coin.
490  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 26, 2018, 04:47:11 PM
La fine del Bitcoin.
Ecco cosa scrive Armstrong sul suo sito. Non sottovalutatelo. Per chi non lo conosce date una occhiata al suo sito,
Saluti

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-the-end-of-cryptocurrencies/

Sono le stesse cose che si dicono da 10 anni.
Quello che mi chiedo: è un suo desiderio?O una sua analisi?

Il fatto è che può anche avere ragione ma è deludente pensare che non possa funzionare, davvero deludente.
Comunque sia l'evoluzione continua (di cose da fare ce ne sono ancora parecchie e se ne stanno facendo) io dico che l'opportunità per qualcosa di buono e davvero utile a tutti c'è, se poi per contrasti e interessi non funziona o non si vuole che funzioni...bhe è appunto deludente.



Esattamente, il sig. Armstrong probabilmente vorrebbe comprare più basso, come molti altri, e in ogni caso Bitcoin è stato dato per spacciato centinaia di volte in passato, e dopo ogni caduta ha formato sempre un nuovo top, sorprendendo sempre e tutti, anche i più ottimisti.

Sempre ieri un altro personaggio di spicco, Edward Snowden, ne ha decantato la probabile triste dipartita in un futuro più o meno prossimo

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-wont-last-but-crypto-is-here-to-stay-edward-snowden/
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][TOKEN SALE] LBX, London Block Exchange | Capitalise on your Curiosity🏦 on: November 26, 2018, 12:55:58 PM
#Proof Of Authentication
Bounty Campaign : Signature
Bitcointalk Username:  kronos123
Telegram Username (@) : @Maciu
Bitcontalk profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893441;sa=account
Eth Address : 0xfF012E38e27BD4AeAf4c5D9807cAdd25A83C2AA2
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] GEMERA ~ ✅💎💠 The Only Crypto-Token Backed by Colombian Emeralds 💠💎✅ on: November 26, 2018, 08:04:03 AM



This bounty campaign will be managed by Sylon.

If you have any technical question regarding this project, please ask it in announcement thread.

Stakes you will get from the campaign will allow you to get GEMA tokens at the token generation event following the public sale.
You will receive 3% of GEMA sold tokens, based on your number of stakes.

This campaign will last until November 25, 2018.




Good morning Sylon, a warm greeting and thank you for your work!
The signature campaign is over on November 25th, so from today I remove my signature.
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [PTOY] Patientory Healthcare on the Blockchain on: November 25, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Pretty much going for a 24 month downtrend, Crypto possibly hit is all time high, this become more risky than penny stock.
No one expected such a turn of events in the crypto world, many people will not be able to withstand such an onslaught, and will remain with nothing. I am trying to shift my attention to another area of activity, and I will come back here in a year.


It is the only wise thing we can do. Who bought many tokens 12 months ago, today is "stuck" and of course it is useless to sell now losing more than 90%.

The only solution is to close everything, hope that the team will realize the roadmap and come back to see you in 24 months!
494  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 24, 2018, 08:28:01 PM
Sono entrato adesso nel thread, dopo circa 3 giorni di assenza, e sono sempre più convinto che il livello di preparazione, cultura e rispetto nella sezione italiana e in particolare in questo è veramente notevole.
Non saprei chi quotare e chi o cosa commentare in tutto quello che avete scritto in questi tre giorni; volevo solo ringraziarvi per le cose che apprendo qui dentro, e anche per la breve parentesi della supercazzola prematurata con scappellamento a Dx  Cheesy

Tornando invece al topic, riguardo al prezzo futuro di Bitcoin, rispondo come faccio spesso nelle chat telegram, e cioè che anche un solo bitcoin posseduto da qui a 10 anni cambierà la nostra vita; essere entrati in Bitcoin, o nelle crypto, in questi ultimi due anni ( non voglio nemmeno prendere in considerazione chi ha avuto la "fortuna" di entrare nel 2011-12, o giù di lì), è come essere entrati o aver finanziato Microsoft, Apple o Amazon prima che queste entrassero in borsa.
Nel 2011-12 era un vero salto nel buio, ma ad oggi la nostra è ancora una scommessa, un finanziamento per un esperimento; ecco perchè spesso si dice di "mettere nelle crypto solo quello che si è disposto a perdere"! In fondo se ci pensate è un controsenso affermare ciò, a meno che il tutto non venga considerato ancora un esperimento.....e questo "esperimento" al prossimo giro, con le regolamentazioni e le leggi che verranno approvate in ogni stato, da qui a 3-5 anni, terminerà la sua fase, per passare al livello successivo: l'adozione e l'accettazione quale nuova forma di investimento, moneta, bene.
Questo porterà ben altri livelli e valori sui cui ragionare, e a cui oggi ci sembrano favole o semplice speranza.

Allego anch'io qualche grafico, vecchio, che postai in altro threal

Ciao, cosa ne pensi della previsione di mcafee su btc a 1 milione dalla metà del 2020 in poi? In fondo per il 2017 ci ha azzeccato.

Non sono più un ragazzino d'età e seguo i mercati da un pò, prima quelli tradizionali e da circa due anni questi "crypto", quindi non dò più nulla per certo e scontato, e non dico mai che è impossibile; personalmente però, ma è una mia opinione personale, ti direi le stesse cose degli altri, in particolare sottoscrivo le parole di Makkara "lascia perdere le stronzate di McCaffè ".  Grin

Non escludo a priori che bitcoin non arriverà a prezzare un giorno 1milione $, ma dubito che arriverà a farlo nel 2020 e se ci arriva bisognerebbe vedere anche il perchè....merito suo/speculazione/bolla provvisoria ( come fino ad adesso) o mega svalutazione/inflazione delle monete Fiat?....quanto vale oggi nel mercato e cosa ci compri con 1.000.000 di bolivar venezuelani?   Wink

Al "prossimo giro" personalmente lo vedo in un intervallo di 100.000/250.000$, come Ath!
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 👑 MTV 👑-Multiversum-4°Generation Relational Blockchain [PRE-ICO] [LIVE] on: November 24, 2018, 05:59:47 PM
Just came across with this great project and I think it has a huge potential to disrupt the way we do things that private and government entities usually do as I figured it has immense benefits if they could tap this kind of technology.

So you have plenty of time to get on board and buy your Mtv; you are also "lucky" that prices are very low at the moment, given the situation of the entire market, in particular those of ICOs.
Even just $ 100 today could perhaps change your life tomorrow!

496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XLM] Stellar - Decentralized trading platform on: November 24, 2018, 11:02:31 AM
Still one of the top projects that chooses Stellar and its blockchain.
The Kin project, launched by the developers of the cross-platform messaging application Kik, has announced that it will completely move away from the Ethereum blockchain in favor of Stellar.

https://btcmanager.com/payments-platform-kin-announces-token-migration-ethereum-custom-stellar-fork/
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: November 23, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
Cryptocurrency Index Funds: Crypto For Lazy Investors
From S&P500, NASDAQ Composite, and DowJones Industrial Average to CRYPTO20 & TaiFu indexes. This LykkeEdu article gives a deep insight into how indexes work & explains what is Lykke index LyCI.

Read the full article at https://www.lykke.com/city/blog/2018-11-index-funds


This is a beautiful initiative that repeats that of other projects already released on the market, and as they rightly pointed out other users is not a simple task.
Have you thought of giving the possibility to more expert users and investors to create their own personalized index, such as Triaconda? It can be interesting, do not you think?

https://triaconta.com/en/triaconta-new-style-eng/
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The bottom is near... on: November 23, 2018, 06:58:20 AM
There is no bottom at the crypto market, first of all we need to understand this, for example btc dropped to 4200-4400 and if it drops to 2k dollar? Everything can be at this market so I dont think that we can say we are near to the bottom or not.



It is obvious that none of us can know and indicate to others the true bottom of the market; ours are only short term speculations and analyzes and should not be considered as investment advice at the X or Y price.

Personally I only believe that when Bitcoin will find its bottom we will all realize it, because we will have a clear signal on both volumes and prices.
To date, I have not seen this signal yet!
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | EDO |EIDOO Wallet - Hybrid Exchange - Marketplace| OVER 80k ETH RAISED | on: November 22, 2018, 11:15:54 PM
This Ekon (EKG) coin have any relation with EDO token? How they will distribute EKG coins? And where this trading? I cant find EKGon coinmarketcap  Huh

You do not yet know all the details of the EKON agreement with Eidoo but surely you will be able to trade in Eidoo's Dex; at the moment you can only book the Ekon on their site

https://ekon.gold/
here you will also find all the information you want because you do not yet know all the details of the agreement
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] WORLDCORE: Trade WRC token on HitBtc and OKex on: November 22, 2018, 05:01:57 PM
New Worldcore debit card pre-order form is now LIVE!

https://worldcore.eu/CardPreOrder

TrueUSD is now integrated into Worldcore.trade cryptocurrency exchange.

Finally, it seems that this project has been reborn and maintains commitments with investors; we only hope that the token has not lost too much and has not been abandoned by the great whales.

https://worldcore.eu/Prepaid-debit-card
Here you can see the costs, shipping details, daily limits, fees, etc.
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