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4841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 07, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
its one's decision if they believe trading as gambling but for me it is gambling because you are risking your money to lose and you can also earn which is gambling but you can not earn fast on trading unlike gambling.

The only thing that trading can be considered as gambling is just because it has a risk. But both of them is truly hard to have good profit with it even though in gambling you can have fast money but sometimes a gambler is not that contented on the profit that he made, he will just keep on gambling and that's the reason why he is going to lose. While there are some good traders who are making good profit because of their patience.
Trading and gambling is far different. They have same features in common but that's not means that they are the same. Gambling is just a game that gaves entertainment with a involvement of money while is just buting a commodity or currencies for a small price and just sell it for high price just like what happened on a normal market scenario. Market is not a gambling place. And trading occurs in the market, so that means trading is not a gamblling.

People just have different perspective/views that's why some consider it is gambling. This thread is never ending story obviously.  Grin

It is near to be the same just like what have said when it comes to risk. And since trading is also a type of investment most of the people when dealing with investments are gambling their money. So for me, both gambling and trading is good to consider as almost the same type of activity even though yeah we do have our different point of views regarding this.
4842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: January 07, 2017, 10:56:22 AM
Maybe not gambling is considered a sickness, but the gambling habits that wrong can become sickness. I think if someone gamble is still in control and do not harm yourself and other people that are still in a normal level. But if people are addicted and losing control in gambling so playing outside the limits it could become sickness. So I think that could be made become sickness is wrong habits.

Yes, the addiction in gambling is what we need to considered as a severe sickness. It cannot be treated easily because addiction in gambling is one of the problem of many people where they are actually not just harming themselves but it can affect their family if their addiction comes to the point where that gambler is really unstoppable.
4843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling site? on: January 07, 2017, 10:10:34 AM
Best bitcoin gambling site that you can

Recommend,?

Just want to lose some of my stored btcs


Why do you want to lose some of your stored bitcoins and what game do you prefer? Well it's up to you, since you didn't mentioned any game that you want to lose your stored bitcoins, you may try to gamble with fortunejack. You can just simply click my signature below and register with a free account and just choose any game that you prefer.
4844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: January 07, 2017, 09:57:04 AM
I am just wondering if you still would gamble if you would have enough money? I mean, now as it is, do you gamble for the fun or for the profit?

I am on that situation I can't promise that I won't gamble even just for a single time. Since I will not going to think about the money that I am going to gamble, so basically I will just going to gamble to have fun and to have sometime for myself. But I won't really going to focus with it anymore because if I have that plenty of money, I'll focus more with investments.
4845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: January 07, 2017, 09:42:01 AM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!
many of them gamble for get money with confidence and curiosity they tried  once they try to gamble they will feel the sensation that makes them addicted
many people are curious about gambling, so they really trying to play until some of them become addicted, but I don't think that all of them will become addicted, it is also depend of a person on how they see gambling.

That is not about curiosity but that is all about the addiction of those people and the desire to win some good amount. And they don't know upon taking the risk of gambling, they are just foreseeing the profit that they can possibly make with it but they really don't look the possibility that it can make their lives ruin easily.
I know, but it will always starts with curiosity right? before you become addicted. Being addicted is our choice so that is their choice to become addicted in gambling because they just want them to control them with their emotions which is not good.
I agree , Addiction is a choice , When you want to stop it or to continue your addiction , The problem with the addicts is that they cant control their self to play gambling games again. Better to avoid seing gambling games if you are addicted because if you see it you will just play it again.

It's a choice and it isn't for others because they just don't notice it that when they gamble too much. They just think that it is a normal thing but in reality they mostly put too much in it and they are not even aware that they are falling into addiction. And on that way, they are making their choice because if their addiction is making them satisfy and happy, we can't help them with it.
4846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 07, 2017, 09:30:34 AM
Gambling with no greed is probably pretty good strategy and determine when saatna berhentin gamble. because the average person is unable to control the desire to gamble and ended up losing

How can you gamble if you are not going to be greedy? This is going to be a hard way of gambling and you can say that it is a smart way because a feeling of a gambler is not measurable and controllable. It depends upon the situation I guess, it is going to be better if most of the time before you are going to gamble you have a game plan and you have certain measurement to reach you aim goal /win for a single day.
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4848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Are Your Favorite eSports To Bet On? And Why? on: January 06, 2017, 07:14:18 AM
The title says it all. Whats your favorite esports to bet on and why?

It seems that almost everyone here has the same answer and I'm also one of them, my favorite is also Dota 2 since I'm an avid fan of it way back its earlier days.

I will start it off. My favorite is csgo because its the one game i love playing and watching. Its easy for me to keep track of whats going on in the pro scene so I am rarely wrong on my csgo bets.

Also CS Go is one on my pick, because one of my opponent when I was still on high school is now a professional CS GO player and I can't just believe that he really is.
4849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: January 06, 2017, 06:58:59 AM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!
many of them gamble for get money with confidence and curiosity they tried  once they try to gamble they will feel the sensation that makes them addicted
many people are curious about gambling, so they really trying to play until some of them become addicted, but I don't think that all of them will become addicted, it is also depend of a person on how they see gambling.

That is not about curiosity but that is all about the addiction of those people and the desire to win some good amount. And they don't know upon taking the risk of gambling, they are just foreseeing the profit that they can possibly make with it but they really don't look the possibility that it can make their lives ruin easily.
4850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: January 06, 2017, 05:48:22 AM
Why not ,there alot of Bitcoin and others shitcoin casino run pretty steady so far now. But if you a gambler I suggest you to inform the admin to lock your account from gambling.
i think it can be risky specially if you are investing online, because there are so no guranty that the site can be really and will not be scam i think you first need to get some goo information about them and only then to invest.
It's all up to yourself, if you have some issues to trust someone online you can't make more Bitcoin. Bitcoin and online can't be separate. Unless you trader , selling and buying Bitcoin in cash term. Let me know if there any site that can be trusted. I have trust issues as well. 😀

Yeah if you don't want to invest with some online casino's even though they were tested and proven to be legit of all the gamblers then don't just be pushy to invest their. Because we are talking about bitcoin here and those online investments that you have trust issues may seems to be all around the net and we are all aware with that. And with bitcoin casino's, investing their seems to be legit at all.
It's very profitable when it comes to investing in online casino, but make sure you do the right research before putting your money on it. You are already here in the crypto world, so it's good explore different opportunities and one of the best way to earn is investment. You money will grow while the price of bitcoin is rising, it's a double win on your part.

Yep , I have few good trusted online casino list . Never have any issues with player or gamblers. They are really really good. Well I won't persuade others ppl to invest it their money. Smiley

Why you are not persuading other people if you are saying that they are really good enough. Maybe you are just thinking about your own investment but good to know that you didn't have any issues with such things. Just keep on investing and for sure you are going to have good profit with it, especially if you have big btc's invested to those casino's.

Because I don't want to promote someone casino for free lol jk jk 😂😂. Btc doing so great recently. Hopefully one fine day I can make my own casino with the btc I invest 😝.

Haha, you got to be kidding me you can just advertise it all over the forum by simply discussing it if that is giving you good profit after all. Its just a matter of pay back to them for giving you a good chance of earning. Well, if you are thinking that way you don't want to share your secret casino's here where you have good experience of investing.
4851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: January 05, 2017, 07:29:31 AM
Why not ,there alot of Bitcoin and others shitcoin casino run pretty steady so far now. But if you a gambler I suggest you to inform the admin to lock your account from gambling.
i think it can be risky specially if you are investing online, because there are so no guranty that the site can be really and will not be scam i think you first need to get some goo information about them and only then to invest.
It's all up to yourself, if you have some issues to trust someone online you can't make more Bitcoin. Bitcoin and online can't be separate. Unless you trader , selling and buying Bitcoin in cash term. Let me know if there any site that can be trusted. I have trust issues as well. 😀

Yeah if you don't want to invest with some online casino's even though they were tested and proven to be legit of all the gamblers then don't just be pushy to invest their. Because we are talking about bitcoin here and those online investments that you have trust issues may seems to be all around the net and we are all aware with that. And with bitcoin casino's, investing their seems to be legit at all.
It's very profitable when it comes to investing in online casino, but make sure you do the right research before putting your money on it. You are already here in the crypto world, so it's good explore different opportunities and one of the best way to earn is investment. You money will grow while the price of bitcoin is rising, it's a double win on your part.

Yep , I have few good trusted online casino list . Never have any issues with player or gamblers. They are really really good. Well I won't persuade others ppl to invest it their money. Smiley

Why you are not persuading other people if you are saying that they are really good enough. Maybe you are just thinking about your own investment but good to know that you didn't have any issues with such things. Just keep on investing and for sure you are going to have good profit with it, especially if you have big btc's invested to those casino's.
4852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: January 05, 2017, 06:26:38 AM
its one's decision if they believe trading as gambling but for me it is gambling because you are risking your money to lose and you can also earn which is gambling but you can not earn fast on trading unlike gambling.

The only thing that trading can be considered as gambling is just because it has a risk. But both of them is truly hard to have good profit with it even though in gambling you can have fast money but sometimes a gambler is not that contented on the profit that he made, he will just keep on gambling and that's the reason why he is going to lose. While there are some good traders who are making good profit because of their patience.
4853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: January 05, 2017, 05:38:16 AM
I select for fun, but sometimes also to profit when I was gambling with large amount. With gambling can relieve stress and keeps me entertained. Communities of gambling also makes me happy with gambling, many of the things I got from gambling not profit only.

I gambling at 3 trust sites. all of them use the bitcoin, so gambling becomes very easy and simple.
Good for you mate if you are just treating gambling as source of entertaining i know most of us here also started like that but suddenly got addicted in the long run as they keep thinking that gambling is also an easy way to earn money, just be very careful like what you have said its now so easy to bet using btc no need for any information just send your btc to a particular add and you are ready to go.
Well, you have to give exemption as not all people can be easily addicted with gambling, there are some who are at the start when they experience loses they loses their interest already. It's all about our interest and since most of the gamblers are men, we are mostly getting addicted as we always seek for revenge.

Yeah those people who are wanting to take some revenge are usually going to the profit that they have missed but first they need to recover some of their losses. But that is one of the mistakes that has been doing by so many players again and again. That already thought me a lesson that's why most of the time, I just don't really care if I will win or not as long as I am having fun with my money that's fine.
4854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: January 05, 2017, 04:37:35 AM
Why not ,there alot of Bitcoin and others shitcoin casino run pretty steady so far now. But if you a gambler I suggest you to inform the admin to lock your account from gambling.
i think it can be risky specially if you are investing online, because there are so no guranty that the site can be really and will not be scam i think you first need to get some goo information about them and only then to invest.
It's all up to yourself, if you have some issues to trust someone online you can't make more Bitcoin. Bitcoin and online can't be separate. Unless you trader , selling and buying Bitcoin in cash term. Let me know if there any site that can be trusted. I have trust issues as well. 😀

Yeah if you don't want to invest with some online casino's even though they were tested and proven to be legit of all the gamblers then don't just be pushy to invest their. Because we are talking about bitcoin here and those online investments that you have trust issues may seems to be all around the net and we are all aware with that. And with bitcoin casino's, investing their seems to be legit at all.
4855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: January 05, 2017, 04:25:38 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers vs New Orleans Pelicans : Bet for Cleveland to win .

I bet also for Cleveland for this game and it is now on the go. Just an update as of now 2nd quarter 5:25 remaining the score is 35-33 in favor of Pelicans. The pelicans are showing good performance for this game but still it is a long run before the end of this game. I hope my prediction will be right for this that Cavs will get this game.
cavs wins by 8 points as usual  knowing the caliber of the team its really an easy win if they play seriously i know pelicans also a good team but its a cavs that can dominate i win also with the bucks so close but it is still a sweet wins for them they really have a good shape looking forward to see them in the playoff.

I thought that Pelicans will be able to make it that was even a closer game for its 1st half  but it seems that Cavs will not allow someone to beat them within their own place. And still it is an advantage for them for their upcoming game this Thursday. Going to bet the amount what I won from them from this game and maybe it can multiply again.  Grin

Yes it will be an advantage again for the Cavs with their fight tomorrow with the Chicago Bulls. As usual everyone is expecting that Cavs will win this game but that is not going to be as easy as we think. And for sure the game will be tough for this match. Any thoughts from anyone here if I will bet for Cavs or Bulls? I want to make sure with my bet here.
Bulls are already exposed, they have a hard time beating the Hornetes at home and how much more with the Cavaliers home. If the line is right, I would definitely take the Cavaliers here, Bulls are so surprising still as they can compete with tough teams. They beat the Cavaliers once and surely revenge is waiting at cavaliers home.
It would be a dominant cavs that we will seeing tomorrow as they will at home we knew cavs really wonderful playing at home and if lebron will play healthy  no doubt that they have the advantagei will place my bet with and entrust my fate to win, good luck
I know this is absurd, but I am gonna make all in bets for the Cleveland Cavaliers tomorrow regardless of the odds. I don't think the cavaliers will take this game a friendly game even though Wade and the King are friends. They have to reclaim victory at home and this revenge like what people have mentioned will happen and we can witness that tomorrow.
I will also rooting for Cavaliers if Kyrie Irving is playing too, he been rested for last 2 game because of hamstring injury, still a question mark whether he will fit to play. His distribution is playing a huge part for Cavaliers, incredible young guy, we looking at the future MVP, Kyrie Irving. I will hold on the bet until the squad is announce.
Yeah, do not place your bets on the Cavs just yet because look what happened last time when they let Lebron James rest on the bench. It was a disasterous loss for them. Wait until the lineups are announced before putting any money on them to win this one.
Just look at the raptors last night. They got smoked by 26+ points and haven't given up so many points since they faced the Cavs this time last year.

See guys, that's why I asked who will be on a good bet and good thing that I didn't bet with Cavs but the bad news is that I didn't bet with Bulls either. I was busy yesterday up to till now that I wasn't able to put my bet with Bulls. The game ended 106-94 in favor of course with the Bulls. Bad game with the Cavs at their own home.
4856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto trading or gambling on: January 04, 2017, 05:33:27 AM
Gambling is much better than trading because with trading you never know if the coins you invested is good or not but at least with gambling you know you gambled on right team and were just unlucky.
Yes everyone has their own experience and interested.
If you are interested in gambling and having some experience and skill then you can really consider gambling more profitable than trading, and those people whose interest is in trading then they can be good in trading.

I don't think that gambling is better than trading in my own experience. But if that is with his own opinion I can't subject into it. But with my experience, I manage to earn better with trading on a monthly basis because that's how I trade but I manage to check and monitor it on a daily basis so while checking I use to gamble but not really hoping for good profit.
4857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 04, 2017, 05:17:44 AM
If gambling leads a user into financial debt as a result of gambling addiction,then it is wrong.But if you find yourself winning I do not think anybody in their right mind will say its wrong.

If he is on that situation already that he has a lot of debt for sure he is going to sell everything he can just to pay his obligations and keep on gambling, that is making gambling worst for a gambler like him. Actually, gambling is not wrong if all of us knows how to take responsibility and we know how gambling can bring us far.
It's not good anymore when you are in debt because of gambling, it will just give you additional problem no matter what is the outcome of your gambling journey, you will have to pay that amount. When you lose your bet, then that is a start of bigger problem, where are you gonna get the money to pay off your debt then?

Yeah and that is making gambling very wrong in the eyes of many people. The same situation happened to my uncle who is a very high roller gambler that always visits casino every night for his 50 years of his entire he made himself rich because of gambling but with his earlier days. It is a very hard thing for him because he made a lot of debt.
4858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: January 04, 2017, 04:59:40 AM
Valve is facing a court case I think from parents who believe their system of opening cases and trading in game items constitutes a form of gambling.   It would be a fairly mild type of raffle type gamble I think but its an arguable case that the latest generation of games rely on this kind of DLC payment in game to make their true profits.  Children are being manipulated by the gameplay into swaying odds by paying a fee to the developer.

Hard to regulate but under 18 are definitely in some kind of gamble.  In the UK you can buy a lottery ticket and win 40 million from the age of 16 onwards and there is somebody that young who won

That's why valve did disabled some third party websites for betting with their rares and other items. So I guess this is the reason why they need to stop  that since I stopped playing with valve's steam(dota 2). I usually bet my rares with dota2lounge.com but I don't have any idea if that is still operating because a lot of minors are gambling with their items there.
4859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your luck in 2016.? on: January 04, 2017, 04:09:25 AM
I was lucky before the end of the year, I manage to win 0.2 BTC Haha but the total amount of my lose is still undetermined otherwise I can still say that my luck is not that good at the first up to third quarter of the year. And my luck just work out at the last quarter of the year 2016. Hoping that this 1st quarter of 2017 will be good to me.
4860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your best luck and worst luck gambling experience? on: January 04, 2017, 04:00:02 AM
One of the unforgettable moments that I have and I would say that it is my best luck is when I only have 0.005 BTC left in my balance and I nonstop gamble for almost a whole day and I manage to win 0.2 BTC and it made my history in gambling that happened before the New year eve.  Cheesy And my worst experience is when I visited a casino and forgot that to bring my wallet that made me shame to come again there.
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