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4961  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and crime... on: September 23, 2017, 11:47:13 PM
bitcoins, actually cryptos in general, greatly facilitate the operation of crime.

crime, organized crime at least, usually has profit motive attached (ignore terrorism for the sake of this argument). bitcoin is money, not quite anonymous, but anonymous enough at this point. the government basically doesnt like illicit earnings because it does not get to tax said earnings. whats one f the easiest ways to avoid taxation at the moment, with a significant amount of value?

bitcoin Wink

so bitcoin will always attract the not so noble crowd, in its current form it just happens to be a pretty effective tool for transmitting illicit funds quickly and quietly Sad

i think we are seeing more and more everyday that BTC is not ideal for illicit activity. it's easily traceable. a few years ago, blockchain/taint analysis wasn't a big thing, but there is an entire industry based around it now. and these companies work very closely with law enforcement agencies. in that vein, it's no big surprise to see alphabay and hansa shut down the way they were. i would even be wary of some of the BTC mixers..... if i were the FBI or INTERPOL, i'd be running mixers as honeypots. hell, law enforcement was running hansa as a honeypot!

i hope that XMR continues to confound blockchain analysis companies. it seems to be our best hope for anonymity of the blockchain.
4962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH - will it go lower on: September 22, 2017, 09:38:17 AM
ETH fall down to 260$. is it because weekend? Dont understand why all coin price fall down

the entire crypto market is falling right now. ETH is just following BTC at the moment in terms of fiat. but the ETHBTC chart is actually very interesting; there's a long term base forming and we have an extremely tight range on the daily chart. i'm very bullish on it, given the structure and the drawn-out base. i also like to see the lack of volatility as we head into the metropolis fork. a successful fork could be a good excuse for a move up against BTC.

once price gets above 0.076, my target is in the 0.13 range. Cool
4963  Economy / Speculation / Re: What was the reason behind Bitcoin bear market of 2014-2015? on: September 21, 2017, 11:18:15 PM
People usually speculate about the future price, but maybe to predict the future we must first understand the past to see if there are any patters and mechanism that might drive the price. To me the most mysterious period of Bitcoin market is the bear market of 2014-2015, when Bitcoin was sitting at $230 for almost 2 years. So, what caused such a low price? Was is solely an effect of Mt.Gox or something else? I'm especially interested to hear responses from people who were into Bitcoin during those times and were involved in trading discussions. Thanks!

it didn't sit in that range for almost 2 years... more like 9 months. after a year straight (2013) of monumental, historic gains, it was no surprise that the market headed into a long term correction. some will point to mt gox as officially popping the bubble, but i think that the bear market was set into motion well before it imploded.

like any other hype cycle in markets, speculators bought the market far, far above realistic value. by 2015, we had returned to realistic value in $200s, and accordingly we saw significant accumulation. the rest is history.
4964  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Anyone back on WEX? on: September 21, 2017, 09:42:02 PM
50% seems very high considering they probably wont pay back for a year at best like finex.  I should imagine its high due to people saw how smooth the finex tokens got paid back.
I wouldn't focus too much on this because everything stinks when it comes to Bitfinex. Do you think it was coincidence that Bitfinex managed to buy back its outstanding debt at the moment the price of the stolen coins doubled in value? Definitely not. There is absolutely no way to prove this, but I am fairly sure that they somehow managed to 'borrow' enough funds with these stolen coins in pawn. Or they blatantly liquidated a large chunk of the stolen coins, which is also possible - either way, the outcome for people with debt tokens was positive, and that in a quick fashion.

i highly doubt they touched the stolen coins. law enforcement is watching those like a hawk. they are completely non-fungible, as it stands. what i think happened was that bitfinex "repaid" the debt tokens by issuing unbacked USDT. it's impossible to know, but i think after 6+ months with no fiat withdrawals available, we have to start questioning their solvency. 

Finex do offer withdraws i have heard and its listed on their site but only for ballers moving $50k or more. I'm not sure how i feel about the possibility of them being insolvent, they've launched so many shit coins last few months they must of made a lot of money of that.  The BTCe tokens need a roadmap and i'd be interested at 25% maybe, should imagine other speculators feel same.

i've done significant research into this. there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone -- whales, corporate clients, or not -- can withdraw any fiat money, in any amount. there are a few people going around spreading this misinformation, but nobody reputable has ever been able to confirm it.

sure, they've made a lot of money off adding altcoins. they've done incredible trading volumes. but given the scope of the debt they "paid off" (possibly by inflating the USDT supply), they may not yet be solvent.

as for the WEX tokens, there's no reason to speculate on them at this point until it's clear what their trading volumes will look like. we can't judge that after only a few days of trading.
4965  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Anyone back on WEX? on: September 20, 2017, 10:44:07 PM
50% seems very high considering they probably wont pay back for a year at best like finex.  I should imagine its high due to people saw how smooth the finex tokens got paid back.
I wouldn't focus too much on this because everything stinks when it comes to Bitfinex. Do you think it was coincidence that Bitfinex managed to buy back its outstanding debt at the moment the price of the stolen coins doubled in value? Definitely not. There is absolutely no way to prove this, but I am fairly sure that they somehow managed to 'borrow' enough funds with these stolen coins in pawn. Or they blatantly liquidated a large chunk of the stolen coins, which is also possible - either way, the outcome for people with debt tokens was positive, and that in a quick fashion.

i highly doubt they touched the stolen coins. law enforcement is watching those like a hawk. they are completely non-fungible, as it stands. what i think happened was that bitfinex "repaid" the debt tokens by issuing unbacked USDT. it's impossible to know, but i think after 6+ months with no fiat withdrawals available, we have to start questioning their solvency.

and over this period, the supply of USDT has skyrocketed. it's actually quite a scary situation. i think they did this because they felt they couldn't contain the FUD around both the BFX tokens and the banking blockade. BFX token debt is easy to erase when it is denominated in USD, and nobody expects you to wire them any USD.

Also they have put the troll box min balance limit up from $100 to $1000 which is quite funny as there are lots of people who don't trust the site enough to leave $1,000 balance on it.
Troll boxes have zero value due to them being infested with idiots pretending to be something, while they in reality are nothing. If it was up to me, the minimum balance to have access to the chat would sit on $100,000 and up. It will likely exclude 99% of the people, but at least it makes you get rid of the cockroaches very easily. Or simply delete that entire 'feature'.

there's plenty of trollbox addicts. i wouldn't be surprised if a small percentage of their traders moved just enough funds in to participate in the chat. they are probably banking on it.
4966  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Wex.nz - I'm being deceived on: September 20, 2017, 08:47:23 AM
My account has wWhite IP settings, but due to a network problem I had to edit the IP. After that I was unable to access the old site btc-e.nz on 3 September. I had sent support before September 15th they told wait until September 15th then confirm the account is possible overcome. When the data is transferred to the new website is WEX.NZ but I still can not login to my account. I even asked them how can I log in when my account is being White IP. And they say,
Gavin said: "Hello!
You will have to pass verification. In the near future this issue will be resolved and you will be able to pass the verification on the new site of the exchange. The information will be available in the news on the site. Please wait.
Thank you for contacting us. "

Then they kept telling me to wait. I do not know how long to wait. They no longer answered my ticket. I feel very nervous with my fortune in it. I waited for them on September 15th and now I have not got into my account yet.

they will no longer answer support tickets at btc-e. only through WEX now. they were telling you (i believe) that you will need to set up verification on the new exchange. have you opened up a new ticket through WEX's support portal? if not, go to wex.kayako.com, go to "start a conversation" and choose something like "problem with login to account." quote the information they gave you in the last ticket and tell them you need to verify identity to access your account.

keep us updated. i hope everything works out for you. don't use IP whitelisting. there are much better options for security. more often than not, it will bite you (like this) rather than save you.
4967  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FUD on: September 19, 2017, 08:13:27 AM
It will probably be calm for the moment, until November where we will start seeing FUD about how everyone should dump and SegWit2x is going to make a chainsplit and kill bitcoin etc. I don't see why people would fall for this though because the same scenario happened with BitcoinCash and nothing really happened, It was just free money for everybody.

i figured we were going to sail into the sunset for a couple months (september/october), given that the bip91 and BCH uncertainty was all cleared up.... until fear about segwit2x kicked in in november.

there's been two things that have changed that outlook. for one thing, the chinese government is like a black cloud over our heads. first, the ICO ban. then the exchange ban. now they are talking about banning mining?!?!

the other thing is that there seems to be less and less support everyday for segwit2x. no major players (besides f2pool) are backing out of the NYA quite yet, but it seems to have lost momentum. so maybe it will just be roundly rejected and there won't be that much contention heading into november.
4968  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Legality of BTC gambling sites in regulated countries. on: September 18, 2017, 10:14:16 AM
It largely depends on how each government in its respective country looks at Bitcoin. In my country Bitcoin isn't a currency, but a means of exchange.

And that's where things are getting a bit tricky. I am not exactly sure in what category a Bitcoin related gambling site fits, but if they register themselves in my country as gambling site, then it shouldn't be a problem I guess.

Not that long ago, sites as bwin, bet365, ladbrokes, and the list goes on, have been prohibited from operating here because they were not willing to register themselves here and pay the tax rate that all local gambling sites have to pay.

I agree that it would depend on the legal view of Bitcoin in the certain country. In my country, Bitcoin is also not recognized as a currency but rather as 'property'. With this kind of view, Bitcoin does not have any legal tender. From this I could not deduce what the stand of my country is with regards to online gambling sites, although it is regulated for fiat online gambling sites.

in the USA, bitcoins are considered "property." i don't think there is federal precedent, but there was a case in the state of nevada where the operator of a BTC poker site was prosecuted. nevada is one of the few US states that regulates online poker. they charged bryan micon with operating an unlicensed internet gambling business. at the time, he was running seals with clubs poker room from las vegas. it was bitcoin-only.

so from that perspective, i would think that the US hasn't gone after bitcoin gambling sites because none have been big enough. nevada had just passed online gaming regulations and wanted to make a point.
4969  Economy / Exchanges / Re: WEX.nz on: September 17, 2017, 10:44:05 PM
I can not connect to my account, I made the white list of my IP today.

It says: login from this ip is banned by Wwhite list ..
I think my smartphone ip changed automatically,
I think because I was in mobile data, help me thank you my wex.nz account is: aqsz213
the media does not respond.

i think you'll have to go through their ticket system. on wex.kayako.com, you can go to "start a conversation" and choose from the menu the most appropriate issue. i would go with "problem with login to account."

also, i would avoid using IP whitelisting, for the exact reason you mention. most people don't have static IP addresses, so i wish that exchanges wouldn't even offer this option. you are best off using a strong password combined with 2-factor authentication on your phone. once you can login to your account, you should definitely remove whitelisted IPs and stop using the option.
4970  Economy / Exchanges / Re: WEX.nz on: September 16, 2017, 11:21:15 AM
It's a good thing that BTC-e has come back strong with another brand name. I think that this is necessary to prevent unneeded speculation on whethr the exchange is going to get shut down again.

However still, i think that the confidence of users in BTC-e has definitely faltered. People realize now that with such an anonymous company you have to rely on the admin's word and even though they did reimburse everyone this time doesn't mean that they will next time.

But at least it won't be the US gov again, because they are not offering their products to them(smart move).

What an epic load of crap.
WEX is not an anonymous company, it's licensed in Singapore and the address and contact details are there for all to see.

Stop spreading your FUD.

if they are not anonymous, can you name the owners? do you see an "about us" somewhere that shows the "WEX team" and maybe gives us some faces to look at? maybe a linkedin profile or two? these things are easy to come by for other major exchanges.

look, i loved btc-e, but let's not act as if WEX appears 100% above board. shell companies are great, and the owners are just as anonymous as ever. the last business address i recall seeing from btc-e was in malaysia -- what does it matter now?


it's licensed in Singapore and the address and contact details are there for all to see.
Are you talking about this:  " 77 HIGH STREET #09-11 HIGH STREET PLAZA SINGAPORE (179433) "

it's just a virtual office. it's typical btc-e, hiding behind shell companies. see here: https://enstoncorp.com.sg/
4971  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nexchange.io too many suspicious activity on: September 16, 2017, 11:05:45 AM
Hi folks,

First of all, we'd like you to know that we are a legitimate business.

We have our faces on the website and are exposing everything to the public, that is part of our strategy and belief system.

We take scam accusations very seriously, which is why we had to take action on our campaigns remove what was wrong.

Please check this thread for more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2179882.0

that's a self-moderated thread, so you can just remove any negative feedback. and that's what you are accused of doing in your various threads in the services section. the fact that you keep opening these types of threads suggests you are scammers looking for fast exposure.

this is beginning to look very much like the scam bitzure pulled a few weeks ago: 1) show up in the services forum appearing to offer the possibility of a signature campaign. this gets you exposure. 2) exit scam.

see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2140512.0;all
and read through to the end: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126606.0;all

come think of it, their bitcointalk account really needs to be tagged as well....

anyway, you try to give the appearance of a paying campaign, but your removal of a reputable campaign manager, the blatant self-escrow attempt, and ending 2 campaigns within a week (without paying anyone) show that this is very likely to be a scam.

a campaign manager that registered to the forum 3 days ago? this will not fly. changing the terms of your campaign every 2 days, with no escrow, no proof of payments? this is not how a legitimate business operates.

Hey, legit claims, we understand your concerns. Thankfully we can rebuke most.

1. First of all, we have some good news. We have just paid everyone who participated in our closed campaigns. Here is the spreadsheet with all the info, incl TX ids of payments: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vnoj9zIMIaKvAooEqUmL5O_g36S-7S1PuhdWvc6zfZo/edit?usp=sharing

2. Our current campaign is now active with us managing it ourselves. Spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hqd5SYd2lvrFCeSV3i7M1XgV9Xg435M4Ip8k4Lb1lKg/edit#gid=0
We are not accepting more people (except for participants of the previous campaign who would like to continue with us).

i think it's customary at this point, given the shenanigans around opening several threads and ending campaigns after a day, that you put the funds into escrow. the least you can do to prove to the community that this isn't a scam is to put one month's salaries at risk. see a list of trusted forum escrows here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

3. We did not kick a reputable manager. google23 is an alt account of the same manager we had. We are unsure why he felt it necessary to create an alt account to run the new campaign, but it was what it was.

it seems that you are deceiving people here. Razick was your campaign manager prior to google23. but he says:

I got fired by Nexchange.

4. Our previous campaign manager encouraged us to open self-moderated posts and managed them as he saw fit. Going forward, we are no longer doing that.

your current campaign thread is self-moderated...

i still stand by my original assessment. if you are indeed innocent here, then next time around, get a plan and stick to it. don't start a signature/avatar campaign without signatures and avatars. have a reputable campaign manager and stick to it. put the funds in escrow. if these things had been done to begin with, in one thread, no one would be accusing you of anything.

but now we have to seriously question the legitimacy of your service....
4972  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nexchange.io too many suspicious activity on: September 15, 2017, 05:53:50 PM
Hi folks,

First of all, we'd like you to know that we are a legitimate business.

We have our faces on the website and are exposing everything to the public, that is part of our strategy and belief system.

We take scam accusations very seriously, which is why we had to take action on our campaigns remove what was wrong.

Please check this thread for more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2179882.0

that's a self-moderated thread, so you can just remove any negative feedback. and that's what you are accused of doing in your various threads in the services section. the fact that you keep opening these types of threads suggests you are scammers looking for fast exposure.

this is beginning to look very much like the scam bitzure pulled a few weeks ago: 1) show up in the services forum appearing to offer the possibility of a signature campaign. this gets you exposure. 2) exit scam.

see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2140512.0;all
and read through to the end: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126606.0;all

come think of it, their bitcointalk account really needs to be tagged as well....

anyway, you try to give the appearance of a paying campaign, but your removal of a reputable campaign manager, the blatant self-escrow attempt, and ending 2 campaigns within a week (without paying anyone) show that this is very likely to be a scam.

a campaign manager that registered to the forum 3 days ago? this will not fly. changing the terms of your campaign every 2 days, with no escrow, no proof of payments? this is not how a legitimate business operates.
4973  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is this a coordinated attack on btc on: September 14, 2017, 10:26:13 PM
Is there a pattern here.

#1 China claims they plan to crack down on exchanges.
#2 Economic frauds come out at the same time claiming bitcoin is an overpriced bubble, ponzo scheme.
#3 At the same time, it appears bankers and other whales begin to dump bitcoin to drive the price down.

i think that it was the intention of the chinese government to stymie price speculation in the short term. that's not to say they wanted to crash the price, but they knew what they were doing and expected the price to drop. that's also why they've been releasing news piece meal (first the ICO news, then the english version days later, then NIFA issues a statement, now okcoin/huobi meeting with state regulators tomorrow).

as for the others -- jamie dimon and all the economic "experts" throwing shade on BTC..... i think they were all already detractors and chose an optimal time to pile on. nobody wants to look like an idiot calling it a bubble while it keeps making new highs. it looks better after the price has already "crashed."
4974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 'is a fraud' that will 'blow up,' FUD OR FACT on: September 13, 2017, 10:14:51 PM
Jamie whoever hasn't a clue about bitcoin. Other than it is an emerging threat to his bank. He is right to be scared.
 Wink

how is it a threat to commercial banks, exactly? i expect that retail banks like jp morgan chase will be offering custodial bitcoin services within the decade. they aren't like a central bank; even if the world abandons fiat money for BTC (incredibly unlikely), they can just monetize services for BTC.

and chase is likely to be hedged far more optimally than the average citizen in a fiat money collapse. but this is all academic; there is no reason for BTC to displace fiat currencies, unless you believe that BTC will bring about the dismantling of governments themselves. the issuing of money (and the authority to mandate its use) is the single greatest power of governments. it's not going anywhere.
4975  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What are the best exchanges to use? on: September 12, 2017, 11:04:06 PM
Anybody got any idea on this one?

https://bisq.network/

i really like the idea of bisq (previously bitsquare). it's an open-source desktop app that allows for completely decentralized exchange of cryptocurrencies. unfortunately, not many people are using it, so the order books are not very thick and it can take some time for orders to be filled. that's the problem with most decentralized apps -- centralized services are much faster and have better liquidity. hopefully this will change in time.
4976  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What are the best exchanges to use? on: September 12, 2017, 07:45:31 AM
I'm having a hell of a problem with exchanges.  Which are the best ones to use?

I have used kraken in the past but their site is slow and unreliable, it doesn't have that many altcoins available, they frequently get overloaded and disable vital features, and wire out fees are very high.  All in all it's a pretty sucky experience...

Ideally I want to have a company rather than individual account.

Some exchanges like bitfinex look nice but they have ridiculously long waiting periods and absurd documentary requirements.

it depends what you are looking for, exactly. if you want to trade altcoins, the most reliable site for now is bittrex. obtaining a basic account (3BTC/day withdrawal limit) is easy and pretty much instant. unlike poloniex, they continually add lots of coins. they are fairly liquid as far as order books go.

bitfinex is worrisome to me due to the explosion of the USDT supply (owned by bitfinex) and because they have been blacklisted by the banking system. i only keep funds there momentarily while making a trade.

i really miss hedging BTCUSD with 1broker's CFDs. they are supposed to come back soon with a new service called 1fox. crossing my fingers.
4977  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: *** BITCOIN FEES - Stop paying overpriced STUPID fees to greedy miners!! *** on: September 11, 2017, 10:03:17 PM
i saw a 0-fee transaction confirmed just the other day: https://blockchain.info/tx/2e1fca53148718bd4d00eeebed510a9417a96a5bbd09be395c51afe776954ef2

so it still happens today. this one was supposedly pushed by a transaction accelerator service right here on the forum. i would be careful sending no-fee transactions, though, for obvious reasons. very easy for transactions like this to get stuck. but if you're just consolidating inputs (sending to self) and you've got time, why not? Smiley

It got confirmed but after 99 days, I bet you don't want to do that on a tx you need badly

no, it got confirmed in a little over 4 days (received by blockchain.info's nodes 8-28-17, confirmed on 9-01-17). even during that time, it would have been dropped from typical node mempools and would have needed to be re-broadcasted. if it was unconfirmed for 99 days, i highly doubt anyone would still be trying to re-broadcast it. Tongue

the push by the network towards segwit transactions has been great. i haven't upgraded yet myself, but the last few transactions i sent were all confirmed within a couple hours and all sent w/ < 5 satoshis/byte. Smiley
4978  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: *** BITCOIN FEES - Stop paying overpriced STUPID fees to greedy miners!! *** on: September 11, 2017, 06:33:26 AM
I don't get why lots of people are pay ridiculous overpriced fees when sending Bitcoin to those greedy ass miners! I've been experimenting with my wallet and reducing the fees each time and have been sending at 0.00005BTC/kilobyte. It only cost me $0.05 (5 cents) to send and I got 4 confirmations in 5 minutes! Anyone paying more than this is a complete idiot. I'm sure that I could even maybe do it at 0.00001BTC/kilobyte and it would get all confirmed within 20mins.

Anyway, let's discuss what is the fees you are paying when sending. What's the minimum fees you've tried?

I have send amounts with 0 fees, but that was some years ago.

i saw a 0-fee transaction confirmed just the other day: https://blockchain.info/tx/2e1fca53148718bd4d00eeebed510a9417a96a5bbd09be395c51afe776954ef2

so it still happens today. this one was supposedly pushed by a transaction accelerator service right here on the forum. i would be careful sending no-fee transactions, though, for obvious reasons. very easy for transactions like this to get stuck. but if you're just consolidating inputs (sending to self) and you've got time, why not? Smiley
4979  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China is Laughing on: September 10, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
Right now, China can show a tantrum and the whole world can shake. Can you feel now the power of China all over your body (hell, am even using a body wash Made in China!)?

in terms of geopolitics, this has already been true for decades, but increasingly so as economic power gradually shifts from the the west to the BRIC countries.

but as far as BTC goes, i think the opposite is occurring. china has dominated bitcoin mining for years, ever since the proliferation of ASIC technology. just recently, we have seen two major japanese companies (internet and entertainment conglomerates) launching major bitcoin mining efforts now that the currency is officially legalized and regulated. DMM said their operation will be live this year, and they expect to be a top 10 mining pool by next year. china's share of global volume has also dropped considerably this year. exchanges like bitflyer (japan) and bitfinex (international) overtook the major chinese exchanges.

so regarding china's influence, as far as decentralization of mining and trade volumes go, things are actually looking bright.
4980  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan ready to kick Bitmain's ass on: September 10, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
The question about when GMO is able to enter the market with their 7nm product is the most critical one. As it stands, they would have a major advantage. But the competition doesn't sleep and the hashrate keeps growing, so if it takes them too long it will be all for nil.

it's a 6-10 month timeline, from the looks of it, assuming all goes well. given that, i wouldn't expect them to be outperforming bitmain in q3 next year. anything can happen, but i wouldn't bet on it. i suspect the amount being invested into bitmain eclipses anyone else in the space, easily.

still, i'm really glad to see new entrants in the space. not so much for the increased legitimacy (i actually don't care about that) but for the prospect of more decentralized mining and ASIC fabrication.
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