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4981  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 05:08:25 PM
This is pretty huge.

The Danish gvt invested in Coinify:

SEED Capital is partly supported by Vækstfonden, the Danish government’s fund for creating growth in new companies. “This must be the first time government funds are invested in a Bitcoin company,” Olesen commented to CoinTelegraph.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112607/coinify-seals-multi-million-external-funding-backed-by-danish-govt

It's a fun fact

gold getting smacked again.  Bitcoin stable.

This year Gold is in positive and Bitcoin lost 50%

that's true when you cherry pick.

i can do that too; look at the 5 yr chart Wink

And looking at something's eternal lifetime (so for both gold and Bitcoin and annualized), might not be considered cherry picking too. 

Ok, go back 3y then Wink

4982  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 03:03:08 PM
This is pretty huge.

The Danish gvt invested in Coinify:

SEED Capital is partly supported by Vækstfonden, the Danish government’s fund for creating growth in new companies. “This must be the first time government funds are invested in a Bitcoin company,” Olesen commented to CoinTelegraph.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112607/coinify-seals-multi-million-external-funding-backed-by-danish-govt

It's a fun fact

gold getting smacked again.  Bitcoin stable.

This year Gold is in positive and Bitcoin lost 50%

that's true when you cherry pick.

i can do that too; look at the 5 yr chart Wink
4983  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 03:00:22 PM
it's heroes like Carmen Segarra that make me want to buy Bitcoin like hell.
4984  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
ok, again, reality check.

are Bitcoiners, like goldbugs, irrationally skeptical of the incumbent fiat system?  i don't think so:

This sort of thing occurred often enough -- Fed regulators denying what had been said in meetings, Fed managers asking her to alter minutes of meetings after the fact -- that Segarra decided she needed to record what actually had been said. So she went to the Spy Store and bought a tiny tape recorder, then began to record her meetings at Goldman Sachs, until she was fired.

I don't want to spoil the revelations of "This American Life": It's far better to hear the actual sounds on the radio, as so much of the meaning of the piece is in the tones of the voices -- and, especially, in the breathtaking wussiness of the people at the Fed charged with regulating Goldman Sachs. But once you have listened to it -- as when you were faced with the newly unignorable truth of what actually happened to that NFL running back's fiancee in that elevator -- consider the following:

1. You sort of knew that the regulators were more or less controlled by the banks. Now you know.

2. The only reason you know is that one woman, Carmen Segarra, has been brave enough to fight the system. She has paid a great price to inform us all of the obvious. She has lost her job, undermined her career, and will no doubt also endure a lifetime of lawsuits and slander.


http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-26/the-secret-goldman-sachs-tapes
4985  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 02:44:25 PM
This is pretty huge.

The Danish gvt invested in Coinify:

SEED Capital is partly supported by Vækstfonden, the Danish government’s fund for creating growth in new companies. “This must be the first time government funds are invested in a Bitcoin company,” Olesen commented to CoinTelegraph.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112607/coinify-seals-multi-million-external-funding-backed-by-danish-govt

It's much smaller than it seems. The Danish government (as many north-western European governments) just subsidizes start-ups in general.

SEED Capital just doesn't invest in any 'ol startup.  and they're not going to invest in something the Danish gvt disapproves of. Unless we see an immediate retraction of this support and an explicit disapproval of Bitcoin association, this is a huge development as it represents the very first time a sovereign gvt has invested in a Bitcoin business.

given all the "mehs" i'm seeing around this news, i'd say we've hit a bottom in sentiment.

We have definitely reached a bottom in sentiment. Just see the reaction to PayPal being semi-positive about Bitcoin and tentatively incorporating it in its business. Who would have thought that just one year ago? In Bitcoin everything moves so fast. If the Paypal news would have been in November of last year it would have made a huge impact on Bitcoin price (short term of course).

given that gvt is the fundamental organizational unit that can legally enforce a clamp down on Bitcoin, the fact that a non US gvt has now financially invested into a Bitcoin startup for the first time in its history makes a global crackdown on Bitcoin much less likely.

there is enough positive fundamentals within Bitcoin that will divide gvt opinion, which is a very good thing.
4986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 02:21:41 PM
This is pretty huge.

The Danish gvt invested in Coinify:

SEED Capital is partly supported by Vækstfonden, the Danish government’s fund for creating growth in new companies. “This must be the first time government funds are invested in a Bitcoin company,” Olesen commented to CoinTelegraph.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112607/coinify-seals-multi-million-external-funding-backed-by-danish-govt

It's much smaller than it seems. The Danish government (as many north-western European governments) just subsidizes start-ups in general.

SEED Capital just doesn't invest in any 'ol startup.  and they're not going to invest in something the Danish gvt disapproves of. Unless we see an immediate retraction of this support and an explicit disapproval of Bitcoin association, this is a huge development as it represents the very first time a sovereign gvt has invested in a Bitcoin business.

given all the "mehs" i'm seeing around this news, i'd say we've hit a bottom in sentiment.
4987  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 02:16:04 PM
here's the Euro double short:

4988  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 02:14:08 PM
the $DXY is breaking away from support and gathering momentum:

4989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 01:59:28 PM
gold getting smacked again.  Bitcoin stable.
4990  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 01:29:39 PM
This is pretty huge.

The Danish gvt invested in Coinify:

SEED Capital is partly supported by Vækstfonden, the Danish government’s fund for creating growth in new companies. “This must be the first time government funds are invested in a Bitcoin company,” Olesen commented to CoinTelegraph.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112607/coinify-seals-multi-million-external-funding-backed-by-danish-govt
4991  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 02:22:44 AM
cypherdoc's "support/resistance" strat vs Ryan's EWology strat.

i got my popcorn, my bitcoins and my fiat ready Smiley



there's way more than just support/resistance strategy.
4992  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 26, 2014, 12:47:04 AM
i'm definitely a buyer here.  bought yesterday and today.
4993  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 07:30:14 PM
well, here's some debt that is being sold off:

4994  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 05:32:54 PM
oh, this looks fair:

4995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 04:49:56 PM
hmmm.

BHP



FCX



copper futures



soybeans



all other softs are down as well

iron ore



commercial RE-IYR; this can't be good

4996  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 03:17:26 PM
silver can be a stock mkt leading indicator:



5y weekly $DXY:



i'm actually looking for a short term bounce in gold but the intermediate term cycle is still down.
4997  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
unsurprisingly, VIX spiking:

4998  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 03:07:43 PM
S&P should hit 3k to 5k before the final collapse and bitcoin uber bubble. I think next few years theres giong to be a fire to get into US dollar and stocks.. how that affects bitcoin is anyones guess. Look at how after every dip its bought strongly... every dip shorters come and say this is the one.. but it will happen when you least expect and are super bullish US.

i don't know man.  i respect you as you've been right so far on the stock mkt.  right now, it ain't looking so good.
4999  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
Great positive article from Bloomberg:

http://bloom.bg/1yrKHnw
5000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: September 25, 2014, 04:31:27 AM
$DXY lifting off like i've been warning.  can't see how this is good for any risk asset, especially gold, except for Bitcoin:

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