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501  Economy / Auctions / Re: Butterfly Labs 60GH/s BFL SC single bitcoin miner ASIC - Tallinn - EU on: January 03, 2014, 03:33:10 PM
Got 1000 Eur bid (including shipping and escrow)

Even 400 Euro would be way to much.
There is allways an idiot who doesn't know about ROI.
502  Economy / Speculation / Re: Losing all hope on: January 03, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Be happy to have fiat at all to buy these precious bitcoins because many die hard believers just struggle to make their ends meet and can afford only to invest 100 euros to bitcoin. My friend would have seriously taken loan from bank exactly a year ago just to buy bitcoins but no bank gave him loan because he doesn't have a job or anything, he's living in his parents' cellar.

He should get a job... Don't do anything and want money to speculate?
Grow up, get your own money and become rich.

Poor people complaining about beeing poor and don't do anything about it -> make me sick!
503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Charlie Lee thinks LTC is in a bubble on: January 03, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
99% of the Bitcoin ASIC Mining Hardware won't ever reach ROI... But there are enough buyers that can't calculate simple things. Bitcoin profits a lot from stupid price chasers.

That is in case difficulty rate increase does not slow down. And also, some people don't give a flying dick about ROI, they just want to support the network and their coins. All the tiny greedy miners moved to altcoins by now, while BTC hashing is for serious players only, who won't jump to another coin in a heartbeat.

Every serious player gives a fuck about ROI! They don't gamble... they invest. Bitcoin and it's ASIC race is really bad for decentralization.
And serious players can't jump on another coin, because you can only reach ROI, if you get the newest miner in time and mine the hell out of it in the first few weeks. Otherwise it's just an expensive piece of crap.

Selling ASIC Hardware is much more profitable than mining yourself. The only exclusion is -> new production step, for example 14-22nm.
504  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: January 03, 2014, 01:49:57 PM
Bought only 10k coins @ 2$ (instead of a few 100k).
Never thought this ponzi will get above 100$  Wink
Still a decent profit. Just need to find the private key.
505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Charlie Lee thinks LTC is in a bubble on: January 03, 2014, 01:14:24 PM
bitcoin was nowhere near where it is now just a year ago.

You checked the charts to see that bitcoin was at $10 just a year ago, before posting this, right? So you are making my argument here, LTC fair price now is at $1, everything else is just stupidity by late train catchers who are positive that in a year LTC will be where BTC is now. The thing is, it is not a fact yet, that is way bitcoin was $10 last year and not $1000.

Bitcoin is as overvalued as Litecoin is.
The "real" value of bitcoin is in the range of 30-60$, if you compare the facts -> business adoption (increase since jan 2013), transactions, ... it's about 50-60%! Not 5000%. So it's clearly overvalued. But I'm still holding  Grin
It's allways funny to gamble with money you don't care to lose. And Crypto Coins are a hell of a gamble.


BTW:
99% of the Bitcoin ASIC Mining Hardware won't ever reach ROI... But there are enough buyers that can't calculate simple things. Bitcoin profits a lot from stupid price chasers.
506  Economy / Speculation / Re: India is officialy out of Bitcoin for the foreseeable future on: January 03, 2014, 12:03:19 PM
Not everyone. Just everyone who gets in now. And even when most are in (years from now), as long as we are below saturation anyone can at least make a little extra. The "bag holders" that people love to talk about are the ones who stubbornly stick with fiat.

That is not entirely true. First world countries (expect the usa) have 0 to 1.5% inflation. They won't be bagholders for the next 50 years. But with bitcoin there will be a lot of people losing large amounts of money.
507  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Whale Temple on: January 03, 2014, 11:32:45 AM
Bitcoin almost at $900, Sharks are feasting on the Livers of the Whale Gods.

Better hold your coins till over 1000$ and start dumping above.
Profit the third or fourth time during this volatile phase.

Only weak hands sold below 900$. Strong hands sold @ double top and bough back with a really big btc profit.
508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HTC]Hotcoin 1.0 release, donated two million coins, first-served basis. on: January 03, 2014, 10:55:51 AM
Simply 120 required confirmations takes over 40 hours now...
There are not even 120 miners anymore. Is this coin is d.o.a.? High difficulty, no demand, no miners, no development, not even logo for the coin. Please dev, do your job! How about relaunch when you get the basics done?
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Too much premined coins.
No logo -> dev's just want to dump 2 million coins and get rich without doing anything.

Hashrate is below 25 MH/s!
Difficulty is really high -> block time over 30 hours -> next difficulty adjustment in 199 blocks... could take a while
509  Economy / Speculation / Re: India is officialy out of Bitcoin for the foreseeable future on: January 03, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
it's worse for the poor people in india, who will stay poor because they can't join the bitcoin bandwagon.

Do you really believe everyone can get rich?
It's a zero sum game with trading fees. Every profit you cash out, somebody had to pay for it.

It is just redistribution of wealth and the biggest chunk goes to the early adopters in 2009-2011. The others can still profit, but it's impossible to turn 10$ into 1 Million $ with just holding like before.
510  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2014, 10:35:00 PM
I panic bought at 799.5 on btc-e. What was I thinking?!

Sell now before we hit 650 @ btc-e.
511  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2014, 09:52:05 PM
$41+ million in the orderbook on mtgox  Wink

Will be funny to see the fear and panic selling after the first big dumps in a few days.  Grin
Beware panic buyers, beware!

Target Price: 1125$ GOX before the final capitulation. Don't forget to sell above 1000$.

Just HODL. Look what we managed to do over Xmas. There is so much more to come if you are patient for a few days.

Why hold?
Double 50 millions in a few days is ok. No need to be greedy.

It looks a bit fishy: GOX leading by nearly 100$.
512  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2014, 09:43:24 PM
$41+ million in the orderbook on mtgox  Wink

Will be funny to see the fear and panic selling after the first big dumps in a few days.  Grin
Beware panic buyers, beware!

Target Price: 1125$ GOX before the final capitulation. Don't forget to sell above 1000$.
513  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 02, 2014, 09:07:57 PM
I think we're set for new ATH  Shocked

CHOO CHOO!!!!  Grin

Buy buy buy!
Need to dump 10% of my coins bought @ 400$.
514  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is your average kH/s? on: January 02, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
225000 KH/s
Stored @ own datacenter - 99.95% uptime last year
515  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin price on: January 02, 2014, 02:23:54 PM
I think it depends a lot on how many major retailers and other 'normal' companies would accept bitcoin in 2014. Overstock is planning to do so, but if other major retailers would also accept bitcoin and at the same time governments, central banks and other institutions won't undertake actions that would undermine bitcoin, then IMO the price can go sky high.

Overstock will use BitPay or anything similar -> Dump the coins immediatly @ market price to get fiat -> selling pressure will be high
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