Deep Web Bitcoin Mixer’s Recent Hack Restarted The Debate Of Darkcoin Vs Trusted Mixers and Trusted Mixers Won ...>>>

http://coinbrief.net/deep-web-bitcoin-mixers-vs-darkcoin/

 

67.88% !!

and wafflepool @ 25%

Well been silent for a while here but WTF?

If it is true moola is cashing out I hope many ill things on that person.

I think its important for the wallet to show how many wallets are mixing coins at the moment (live counter). Then we can also put a graph on some website that displays trend of this over time, which is a very clear indicator of adoption progress. Evan, can you implement this?

It will also help us who are willing to help the project to determine whether its needed to run liquidity providers at any given time.

I will also post this on dct

I'm sorry.  But without actual code review by the community - I don't care what factors from the outside looking in are used to measure the supposed "anoniminity" of a coin.  It isn't enough.  It's like a code review of 400,000 lines of code by one developer in six hours.

Sure.  He looked at it.  But regardless of his experience level - it proves nothing about the security or trustworthiness of the coins claims.  How many "code reviews" and external factors have been looking for exploits in Windows?   Even with thousands of developers spending millions of man hours "code reviewing" it - it STILL isn't secure.

Software that needs to be secure (in this case anoniminity needs to be secure) is not considered so until it's open sourced.  Period.


Stop it with the FUD accusations.  Legitimate concerns are NOT FUD.  Saying "I have the best anoniminity technology on the market.  Even though my coin is 20th on the market cap and I haven't open sourced it yet - just trust me" is MUCH more misleading than the "FUD" you accuse us of.  How about we just drop the terms FUD & SHILL and hold each other accountable to try & discover the truth about any given coin / technology?


Again.  Until it's open sourced no one knows.  I have a hunch that it's probably modified code.  Or terrible with lots of holes.  Because the fact that your coin is 20th on the market cap with like 4 legit contenders - some of which have passed you in the last three month period while your coin has continued to fall.  Screams that you need legitimacy more than you need other coins to not clone you.  So the "I don't want clones" doesn't really hold water.

Again.  Lets worry about the truth - not what paints who in a bad light.  The BlockNET is including coins with developers who in the past have left "investors" out to dry by promising technology and then delivering far far less.  Then move on to the next promised project / pump.

I view this as no less than a scam.  The fact that you are working with these developers to try and bring value to both their coin and your coin makes you "involved" with these coins, no?

In fact - haven't you kinda made a living by selling the "legitimacy" of XC to pump other coins?  Isn't that all this is - just on a much bigger scale?

http://xc-official.com/xcurrency-code-reviews-the-de-facto-standard-of-legitimacy-among-altcoins.html

You're using the fact that you can create pump on small coins as a marketing technique?  The reality / truth looks more like this

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/halcyon/

Fantastic, I'll be rolling my sleeves up for that one...

guys we need to get this Darknet news out there I don't even see a single tweet about it http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/10/21/darkcoin-bow-accepted-minor-dark-net-marketplaces/

these are the official forums of the 3 largest darknet sites

Silk Road 2 forums

http://silkroad5v7dywlc.onion/

Agora forums

http://lacbzxobeprssrfx.onion/

Evolution forums

http://i25c62nvu4cgeqyz.onion/index.php

Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can inform their users of why DRK > BTC I think a lot of them would be interested in learning more about DRK, many take OPSEC very seriously. The forums are separate from the merchant sites but you still need TOR browser to connect.

I haven't replied here in a while because the signal-to-noise ratio is really low in here (where "noise" includes things like trash talking me and speculation on the price). If you said something addressed at me here, I probably didn't read it. PM me if it's important.

Yes, estimating the time to complete software is not my strong suit, but that is a difficult problem in any case. The fact remains that I have worked hard on this and will continue to do so. I am not aware of any other developers who have made nearly as much progress (judging by public commits) in adding zero-knowledge cryptography to cryptocurrency. As for ShadowCoin, I looked at their code briefly and did not see a single commit related to this; sure, they might be keeping all the development secret, but "talk is cheap". If you look at Github, you'll see that I did more than talk.

Anyway, I am now thinking it is better to have a series of testnets with gradually increasing Zerocoin functionality, rather than a single one with all the functionality as I originally planned. I'll set a date for the first one when I am actually code complete. You can think of these as "milestones" for completion.

As for the wild oscillations in difficulty, I am working with two other people on our IRC to get this resolved.

I always thought DRK and Darknet markets were a match made in heaven and now it has begun http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/10/21/darkcoin-bow-accepted-minor-dark-net-marketplaces/

Yes you can see it right here
http://imgur.com/h8rFt5U

I have to agree, which I why I believe that their should be a group of specially chosen coins, or even just XC that form the core base for Blocknet. I also propose different tiers, with XC being the 1st/core coin, and another 2 being on the 2nd tier, etc.

So, we are communists now? ANY coin out there which is not a scam and passes Dan review CAN join BlockNet. What's so hard to understand a simple fact.

"By XC associating with other currencies which are "worthless" - you are a moron too. What XC association? XC is something, BlockNet is something else. WTF guys?

First of all, you are a moron,

"Why were only coins added that are nearly worthless?" - Coins are not added, coins can apply to join.
"Why didn't you try to get at least one coin that has a market cap > 1M$?" - You angry cause your investment does not go up fast enough?
"And as it seems nearly all of them increased in price only XC lost dramatically." - what does that tells you?

"I think a blocknet would make sense when coins that already have a high marketcap join forces to
build something big but this somehow feels like XC is used to bring more value to some useless coins." - money money money and money again.

Full of morons...

It does work, and its not open source for several reasons, including the fact it is the most advanced mixer technology on the marketplace and would be cloned immediately...

Just to clear this up...

- Blocknet shares can be bought with all participating currencies.

- The usage of XCurrency is exactly what it was before. The Blocknet takes nothing away from XC. Thinking that the Blocknet will somehow dilute XC's value is like saying that Google's value will decrease by being on the internet.

- Did you even read the press release? To quote:

The Blocknet is, essentially, all the features of all participating coins rolled into one. Does this mean that by joining the Blocknet, a coin gives up its technology to the Blocknet?
-   No, coins retain every single one of their features and do not give up any of them.
-   Coins’ features are offered as services to other coins – for a fee – on the Blocknet.
-   Nodes that render these services are remunerated for their role.
-   The Blocknet also receives micropayments as fees for supporting the rendering of these services – the profits for which go to token-holders.
-   So instead of stealing coins’ features, the Blocknet does two things:
        o   The Blocknet increases a coin’s userbase for its services. No longer are coins only used by their (generally tiny) communities.
        o   By extending the reach of a coin’s service, the Blocknet serves as the most effective form of advertising possible for a coin: actual usage. Nothing will attract users more than trying a coin’s service and enjoying it.
-   Furthermore, the Blocknet removes multiple barriers to entry for would-be users of a coin, like
        a)   Making it trivially easy to discover a coin amidst the thousands in existence.
        b)   Not requiring a user to research a coin and understand it before adopting it.
        c)   Not requiring a user to download new software and learn how to use it.
        d)   Not having to do market analysis to calculate the risks of buying a coin before one can use it. For the first time the Blocknet makes it possible for coins’ services to be used without one first having to buy coins, and coins can be traded without having to use their services.

Hello everybody, i understand many of you are frustrated about missing the deadline, many of you are questioning whether the devs have given up. I had a talk with gnosis who is working very hard. He does not want to spend a lot of time explaining why he did not finish when that time could be used trying to finish sooner

Right Now Gnosis is working on the ZC mint-related logic. The Zerocoin checkpointing however is more work than anticipated.


Within Check-pointing:
1) miners accumulating minted coins into checkpoints (DONE),
2) verifying checkpoints upon receiving a block (IN PROGRESS),
3) storing and loading checkpoints in leveldb
4) fix miner coin accumulation so it doesn't restart from scratch each time there's a new transaction

Gnosis say another day or so for #2

Next: (2-4 days each)
    wallet witness update
    wallet mint logic
    refactor CoinSpend
    RPC create spend + impl.
    store own spend pieces locally
    RPC get seeding spend proofs
    net: seed spends
    net: receive and verify spends
    store received spend pieces
    wallet spend logic
    GUI

I will try to answer as best i can any questions people may have.

I think we just found it

This is fucked up. From an assured Oct 15th testnet, to a week delay, to a 2-3 month delay. There's really nothing I can say, very weird way of acting.

When the darkcoin dev made a few mistakes along the way, I always felt assured that he would pull through with results, since he had his real name and face out there since day 1 (and had been delivering actual results) . With gnosis it feels like he can just walk away from all this stuff if he decides to and no one can hold him accountable for it. If he feels the task is too big after all, all he needs to do is stop posting.