Unfortunately Open Transactions changed the format of their nyms and contracts and such, and still have not settled on a final format, and seem to have given up on the idea of making a GUI client so simple that grandma can use it, so all the wonderful markets of any asset vs any asset at any powers-of-ten scale have gone on hold since long ago now and look to be quite a while yet before they get a final system in place. So all the stuff at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html is still not simple to trade for grandmas and such, and most cryptocoin folks have never seemed to get into the idea of actually entering into games to wheel and deal, they just want to sit outside and trade stuff on websites without any actual immersion in any games, no characters to get mugged trying to find their way to a back alley exchange in some city on some planet somewhere, no nation to control and keep productive to back its currency and so on and so on. I have been looking around at the various distributed exchanges / assets systems but so far have not seen one that looks like it would work for the stuff the http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html pages document. Basically the major nations clans corps groups parties and such mostly trade on paper nowadays racking up notes as to what transactions will eventually need to be plugged into the Open Transactions system whenever a final setup for Open Transactions is ready for use. But just because the cryptocoins crowd doesn't see it all moving on websites doesn't mean the whole grand design of the Galactic Milieu is not still chugging along in the background. Consider for example that the total amount of devcoins owed by debtors is still way the heck larger than the total number that have been minted, and that fleets of ships continue to ship Deuterium to General Ming Corp (GMC) and General Retirement Fund (GRF) depots carrying typically almost 15 million units of Deuterium per fleet and often four or five such fleets from a given Corp from its various mining colonies you can see from the table at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/deuterium.html that commerce is still strong and is in fact growing. So just have patience, maybe? Or maybe even throw some bounties into encouraging more players to get involved? Or throw more bounties at Open Transactions developers? Or into whole new technologies to make all this stuff more accessible to folk who maybe are not into running around on two-dimensional maps with individual characters? Or to attract more players into the various clans? Or to encourage folks to make whole new clans, parties, associations and such? -MarkM- |
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I have been withdrawing coins from Cryptsy regularly without problems, albeit I have not tried to withdraw BiTCoins nor IXCoins as I am putting those onto the order-books with no intention of withdrawing any yet.
I have not really seen anything convincing yet about Cryptsy dying, I had heard they were going through a process of getting themselves legitimate?
-MarkM-
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AXIOM has kept on rising vs BiTCoin through all this too.
IXCoin's rise has been aborted though by CEX dropping the coin causing oodles of dumping at crazy-low prices on CEX, which is insane enough low that arbitragers have finaly gotten around to grabbing all the dirt cheap IXC and sending them to other exchanges where the price had been rising. So now even on Cryptsy its no longer worth bothering to place buy orders as the dumping arbitragers are so eager to dump they'll do so even at crazy-low prices.
-MarkM-
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It does seem a little strange that IXCoin is cheaper than I0Coin lately.
-MarkM-
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It looks like people on CEX cannot be bothered to export their IXCoins to Cryptsy so are dumping them insanely cheap on CEX, where an arbitrager picks them up moves them to Crypsy and dumps them.
So yeah it does seem likely the price will stay supressed until CEX completes its phasing-out of IXCoin; until then it is maybe kind of dumb to bother replenishing the buy-side because leaving it low the dumper(s) are still going to dump so why offer them better prices than those they are obviously quite willing to dump it down to?
Each time I replenish the buy side even a little I think damn I am being dumb doing this, those idiots are going to dump anyway why am I offering them better prices?
Maybe if I let it just go into free-fall nearly everyone will panic-sell, I'll pick up all the coins for a few satoshis each, then can get back to building the buy-side once hardly anyone has any coins left to dump...
-MarkM-
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IXCoin and I0Coin, of course.
(Both continuing their long term rise vs bitcoin regardless of what fiat is doing. As usual.)
-MarkM-
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If Counterparty type protocols work on bitcoin presumably they should be able to work on IXCoin.
I have not tried to withdraw IXCoins from Cryptsy but have been withdrawing other coins frequently without problems.
-MarkM-
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Actually I had been worrying that I was going to have to get onto the CEX exchange to provide IXCoin a buyside there, now I won't have to do that, which is good I suppose as the more exchanges I need to maintain a pile of bitcoins at to build buysides the more bitcoins that ties up.
As for pools, mmpool.org has always been the public pool most devoted to the merged mined coins.
-MarkM-
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Maybe even better would be a merged mined SHA256 coins exchange we can keep up without having to care about the stupid daily volume concerns of the scamcoin exchanges.
Unfortunately Open Transactions expects to have a few more data format changes yet so until they settle on their final data setup I am holding off on moving my Open Transactions data over to a new version.
So it could be a while yet before we have something permanent we can rely on.
On the bright side, that means there might yet be some more time left to acquire nice hoards of the currently-low-volume merged mined coins...
-MarkM-
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Liquidity is not the problem, there are always lots of coins for sale and lots of depth waiting to absorb dumps.
The problem is volume, even when people dump them dirt cheap it is still hard to part with those nice cheap coins at cheap prices.
But hey as people dumped on my buy offers I did put at least some of the coins back on sale at low prices, these things used to be 16k to 18k satoshis per coin once upon a time yet I have built my sell side down and down and down all the way to 7200 now, heck I had it built down even lower until my buy offers got up near there so I had to delete sell offers to make room for higher buy offers.
So it is plenty liquid, what is lacking is volume, or at least daily volume.
Probably a lot of that is because so many exchanges screw people around all the time, like Vircurex refusing to honour bitcoin deposits thus preventing more buy-with-bitcoins offers from being placed.
Probably the more coins people dump the more end up in the hands of folk who are not eager to part with them cheap.
Both IXCoin and I0Coin are still way up in the 40th to 60th place position on CoinMarketCap, but I0Coin often fails to appear on that list, even if you ask to see all coins, and GRouPcoin is not even able to appear there at all yet because it is not on any exchanges yet.
Maybe what is needed is a site that shows the depth of coins, so you can see which are actually piled up for sale and have heaps of buy offers waiting to buy them.
-MarkM-
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So is there a version of this on github or something that is ready to compile and run? I thought this thing was coming out back in October but so far I haven't come across any clear news pointing to a repository I can clone compile and run...
-MarkM-
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Can they be used at all is a better question.
I periodically look again to see if any usable open source coin-to-coin exchange code exists and so far it is not looking good.
I found one that wants you to outsource some kind of transaction queues to a paid service so you pay them based on number of transactions you use, and one that needs you to run three or more nodes because it is intended to distribute control of the coins across multiple nodes to make it harder to hack, ideally having different people in charge of the separate nodes, requiring a majority of the nodes to agree to authorise any withdraws; it also does not actually do the exchanging really, it just acts as a gateway into the HORIZON network, similar to Ripple gateways, where it holds the actual coins and issues assets representing them on the network where people can then trade the assets. A big problem I have with that is unlike Ripple you cannot trade any asset against any asset, all pairs involve the network's own currency (in this case HORIZONS presumably). I do not like that because just like Ripple there are huge hoards of the native currency in the system just waiting to be dumped so chances seem good you will end up stuck with oodles of the native currency as will anyone importing something they would like to buy your offering with, both of you who wanted to trade having to sell first for the native currency instead of for the things of each others' that you actually had hoped to buy.
(For example say you have bitcoins and would like to buy IXCoins, I have IXCoins and would like to buy bitcoins; we both set these gateway things up to import our coins as assets; the network system developers buy all our coins for their native coins they have billions or hundreds of billions of; we both are stuck with that native currency and cannot even buy what we wanted for it because now the developers own all that stuff so best case is maybe they'd part with it at a profit, making us both pay through the nose for what we were trying to buy at reasonable prices from each other...)
So basically so far I have not seen any free open source exchange stuff worth running even given I have entire dedicated machines I can use to run such things if ever such things actually became usable.
-MarkM-
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ixcoin is the only one of dem coins that might very well be supported unconditionally until the very end of all coins
~CfA~
Why only IXCoin? I0Coin is pretty good too, sure it still mints a small amount but that just means it is taking a little longer to get to where IXCoin is... -MarkM- |
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At some point the miniUPNP library changed so some coins use one syntax (number of args to function) some use other, maybe you just aren't using the particular miniUPNP library that version of that coin wants?
I have never had miniUPNP work with any modem any local ISP has ever given us so I just compile without UPNP support entirely.
( make USE_UPNP= -f makefile.myversionofunix coind )
(Or hack up a makefile.myversionofunix that sets USE_UPNP empty in the makefile, if as e.g. for Fedora I have to hack up a makefile anyway.)
Looks like maybe the miniUPNP you are linking against might include language-translation support? Never seen this error myself but as I said I leave out miniUPNP.
-MarkM-
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Remember that Second Life had a currency of its own too, do people still use that?
If so why wouldn't users of these peoples' VRs use these peoples' shitcoin?
-MarkM-
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Blockchain of ix stuck at nheight 285909.
There are currently 277 transactions waiting for the next block to be solved which at difficulty of 761,913,567 will be never without the support cex has given for so long .... or the support of another major pool....
I just checked one of my nodes and it shows: {
"version" : 32430,
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 285924,
"connections" : 23,
"proxy" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"difficulty" : 761913567.92256093,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1442207275,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : ""
}
So the chain IS moving. Also, mmpool shows 73.81 terahashes currently. So even if blocks are a little slower than normal they are clearly moving; and difficulty should adjust itself as the merged coins all got a difficulty adjustment fix way back in the early days didn't they, to adapt faster than bitcoin did? At least I think most of them adapt fairly well and rapidly? EDIT: Also, we have been sitting around position 50 to 55 or so on CoinMarketCap the last while which is about our usual spot. -MarkM- |
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10 days to GPL hardfork - do not forget download new version.
The github repository you linked to has gone a year or more without changes, how is that new? ("Contributions in the last year 1 total Nov 1, 2014 – Nov 1, 2015" ...) -MarkM- |
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It would have been very convenient though if all coins used the same system, so you would only need to post one address for people to send coins to regardless of which coin / which blockchain.
We did that with DeVCoin so that we could use people's existing bitcoin addresses to send devcoins to for them, so they would not need to get a devcoin wallet and create a devcoin address in order to be eligible to receive devcoins.
-MarkM-
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Seems like you are choosing coins whose inflation rate is insanely high.
Just like fiat, can you expect money to rise in value if it is printed constantly?
Do you really think you can print it so fast that the printing rate will exceed the rate at which it loses value?
-MarkM-
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