It's possible we can go to *insert random price here*, but will we go there? Nobody knows...
Of course, anyone can say any kind of price but no one really knows if we will hit that price before a certain date. But that is exactly what the speculation sub-forum is for. To speculate on potential price points and developments in the community and network. Also if you're speculating on prices please give a proper reason why you think we would hit that price before the fork. By doing so you're contributing a somewhat useful opinion. You are right that nobody can say with certainty how much it will cost bitin to the fork. But the fact that the price will rise I have no doubt. Everybody's going to hold the bitcoin and it will raise the price of coins. A lot of people want to make money on the pump and will sell altcoins to buy bitcoins. This will provoke the fall of prices in the market altcoins. In such a situation it is important not to miss the moment to sell bitcoins and buy altcoins. |
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If your income depends on the price of bitcoin is very difficult to resist not to check the price of bitcoin every day. Some of the most impatient people watching the bitcoin price online. I understand when traders but when do people holding a 0.01 btc I don't understand. I think people who do not know how to control their emotions most often become victims of volatility.
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BTC is absolutely surging right now and there is huge market confidence but I do not feel that it can sustain the current trend, it is too sharp a rise and it would seem a fall is inevitable.
I agree with you. The bitcoin price going up in an incredible speed. most people's opinions Bitcoin prices rise because of the upcoming fork. If this is true after 25/10 Bitcoin price may be dump Dump to be sure but I'm sure the price will stop above $ 5,000. Even if the price of bitcoin in December will be below $ 5,000 it will be a good result for 2017. In January, we saw the price of $ 1,000. Do you think the growth rates in the 4-5 times a year is not enough? Lol. Such income does not bring even the arms trade. So no matter is dumping or not we should be happy with the result this year. |
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Here in my country which is now an upcoming tiger economy (though we are still classified as a third-world country), we are free to participate in Bitcoin both buying and selling as the government is treating Bitcoin just like any other foreiign money.
However, I am sure that only a very, very small fraction of us are declaring our Bitcoin income. It seems to me that the government is not that interested to get strict with individuals as long as they can tax the Bitcoin exchange provider for the service rendered.
I am then wondering the situation with other countries. Can your government really be able to track if you never declared gains made from Bitcoin transactions?
This is the one reason why nations should legalized bitcoin because they will gain bitcoin income tax in which a little bit frustrations to some bitcoin enthusiast because there profit will be deducted but i think this is fair because income thru fiat was tax collectable too. All tax imposed by the government are good as long as it was used for the welfare of their people that is why they should be honest in declaring bitcoin income but if it will just to be stolen thru corruption that is bad and I'm against it. You know at least one state which honestly spends collecting taxes. It's even funny to read you say that is very good if the government will not interfere in the Affairs of the bitcoin community. I want to tell you that the idea of creation of bitcoin was that people do not trust the government and want to create its own independent economy. if you like to pay taxes to the thieves refrain from bitcoin and use Fiat. |
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The IMF has never helped countries. They are just trying to drive the country's debt and get control over them. Countries are poor because they come to power thieves and corrupt officials. Instead of helping under its control to restore the economy of the country they give the thieves money. Bitcoin can now help in the development of the economy so its use is unacceptable in the backward countries.
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I wonder how the Russians are going to do it? They can only control the ruble which does not need anyone. Then the users of bitcoins will change the bitcoin to dollar beyond the influence of Russia. I really want to see how Putin will abandon investment in the country. It's amazing how there are those who support this rubbish.
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"First and foremost is the possibility of money laundering obtained by criminal means, tax evasion and funding terrorism and, of course, the distribution of fraud schemes, the victims of which can become ordinary citizens," — said the head of state. What do you think about the President's statement??
I can say about "Who shouts the loudest stop thief? The thief himself". The President knows how he does it and why he thinks that so do all. If he said that before the advent of bitcoin in the country was not crooks and terrorists, people received only the honest money and it was not necessary to launder money. Then his words would make sense. Now the fight against bitcoin is only an attempt to maintain control over people. |
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If you want to make money from bitcoin one of the best methods is to join an exchange and trade bitcoin, The bullish wave is almost over now and the prices are on a steady and slow rise. One can still get into the market and buy some bitcoins just for trading. I suggest people to join early and hold it then slowly sell bitcoin to gather profits.
I doubt that your advice will have a positive effect for beginners. Most people come in the bitcoin community because they can not earn enough Fiat to buy the minimum necessary for life. You offer them to buy bitcoins for $ 5,000? Lol. In many countries, this is the amount that people can not earn even one year. |
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Reflecting on this, keep in mind only one thought - for some reason the creator of the bitcoin concealed his identity. Bitcoin should be the property of the whole world, so I understand the idea of the so-called Satoshi. To distribute bitcoin, you can and should use the world's advertising space - billboards, newspapers, TV, radio, the Internet, so that the whole world speaks about it immediately, and not a specific person.
It's all words. Someone ran the new York agreement. Of course there are people who are making their adjustments in the life of bitcoin. I'm not sure that you can 100% control the bitcoin but each action can have big consequences for the entire bitcoin community. I do not support permanent fork but they happen. Maybe we are just pawns in someone else's game? |
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All the governments will try to shut down bitcoin for sure, but russia? seriously? i though that this was one of the countries that most supported bitcoin at all, it is really impresive for me.
I dont think it is real, can anyone confirm it? how do we know if this hasn't been writen by a troll or by a normal user?
please try to give more explanations about it, if it is real, then it would be a mess.
In Russia we keep hearing contradictory statements. It all depends on what mood woke up Putin. I generally don't pay attention to their statements. Russia is a big country in size but the population is small. They can not affect the market of bitcoin. I don't think they're ready now to ban bitcoin. Russia's economy shows steady decline in and so nobody will deprive people of the opportunity to provide for themselves. Why do they need food riots? |
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All the analysts are talking about the same thing only in different words. I don't believe them. No one can give a reasonable prediction of the behavior of bitcoin. I also think that it will grow because now a lot of people trust bitcoin and hopes that you will become rich thanks to bitcoin. Only no one can know when the whales will begin to withdraw their capital. It can in a short time completely change the situation on the market. So you need to think with your head.
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Bitcoin Legality is a hot and interested topic now a days. In my country it is not illegal yet....so no worries.
Its legality depend upon the country stand you live in. Countries like Bangladesh, Thailand etc..bitcoin transaction is totally illegal; no matters for what reason you are using it.
For other countries, say like japan, If you use bitcoin for prohibited activities like money-laundering, buying drugs etc...in that case the activity is illegal not Bitcoin.
If you live in Thailand there is no problem to earn bitcoins online to buy anything or to exchange them for dollars and send then to Thailand. This will entail additional costs but it will not be a violation of the law. Simple bans bitcoin cannot be stopped. |
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for me India and other countries will never include bitcoin in normal money system but they can make only ban over it .
next years i think many counties will ban exchange to make some control of bitcoin and reduce number of users
It all depends on the position of the United States. Bitcoin is a danger in the first place for the dollar. Other countries are now only attracting investment via bitcoin. Yes, users do not pay taxes but their income, they stimulate demand and warm up the economy of their country. I think that countries like India will take the strategy of waiting. They will not deny but would not allow the use of bitcoins. Perhaps the Americans will force the government to ban bitcoin in exchange for dollar investments. Only time will tell. |
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It all depends on for what purpose you use bitcoins. If you will be trading on the stock exchange you will need to monitor the price literally online. For trade in goods also required. If you are going to store your coins for long term then you do not have to. Each person chooses for himself what information he needs.
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Bitcoin can disappear if all those who have bitcoin die and not tell their closest relatives about the password of the wallet he has.
I am not afraid. This will only increase the demand and price will rise. It seems to me that this issue is not relevant. Have bitcoins there are more important issues that can lead to the fact that we can not wait the moment when coin is not to be missed for everyone. |
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I agree and this is necessary for security and keep bitcoin not used for crime. The government is required to maintain the security and comfort of every citizen. As did China in regulating ICO, this is to protect investors.
I disagree with you. All of which makes the government directed against the people. As they say always the devil is in the details. Under the guise of good intentions of States are trying to strengthen the control over people. Only slaves are easy to control. I'm sure that any state intervention will only bring harm. |
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But the only problem is gold and silver, along with other precious stones and metals are being held secure by the Feds and the bankers, so that option is also a no-go for those who doesn't want to be controlled 'again' by these entities. Also, we are rather uncertain about the Fed's and the banks' involvement in several cryptos, but we cannot rule them out as again, these scums will take part in almost anything just to control the people. This is also a concerning thing about crypto since there's always a loophole in which these guys can fit in no matter how small it is.
Been pondering about these things in a while, and it seems that no matter how far we distance ourselves against these greedy bastards, they'd always find a way to get involved and control us.
Bastards control us because we allow them to do so. Look how many people on the forum dreaming about the legalization of bitcoin. They do not understand that they themselves give themselves into the hands of these bastards? Maybe people have as Pets are accustomed to their controlled hosts and can't live without it? |
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I don't understand why you're happy. Your government States that after 6 months, for the fact that they recognize that your use of bitcoin and for that you have to pay them money in taxes. I think we should not pay attention to the government. I am opposed to the legalization of bitcoin.
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