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541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is bitcoin games legit? on: October 07, 2017, 09:19:47 AM
In many games or taps there is a minimum price at the time of withdrawal. View carefully the terms and conditions. There's sure to write about it. The price of the transaction is high and to make you a little money, to pay more money than you get.
542  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a debt addicted generation survive with technologies like Crypto currencies? on: October 06, 2017, 01:44:07 PM
A person who is suffering a lot of debt in fiat can survive and clear out his debt using cryptocurrencies because the cryptocurrencies are a fast profiting way which a person can grab and work hard on that and make a lot of money from it that will help him to survive and pay all the debts without anything left. Cryptocurrencies are so awesome that it can help you to become better even within 1 year only.
It seems to me that you are mistaken. Bitcoin will not grow always. It does not happen. Someday the price will start to decline at the same rate which is now increasing. Then the people who took out a loan to buy bitcoin lose your money twice. It's more like a bubble. I never take out loans and don't advise it to others.
543  Economy / Speculation / Re: LOWEST PRICE BITCOIN WILL GET TO on: October 06, 2017, 01:38:40 PM
All users of bitcoin have long been accustomed to such falls in prices. Only beginners worry about it. This period of decline was longer than usual. I think it was the acceleration before the big jump. The longer the recession the more the price will soar. I think the $ 5,000 we will see later this month.
544  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you think about the future of bitcoin? on: October 06, 2017, 01:34:21 PM
Everyone is talking about the fact that China prohibits the use of bitcoins but I haven't seen concrete evidence of this. I think these rumors start whales in order to reduce the price of bitcoins and buy them during the panic cheaper. Now We see stabilization of prices and I expect a sharp rise in prices since the middle of this month.
545  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no role in real world on: October 05, 2017, 11:55:39 AM
I don't agree that bitcoin has no role in the world. Just you are too rush things. Bitcoin is still too young to defeat such heavyweights as the us dollar. But bitcoin has managed to unite like-minded people around the world. If they work together it is difficult even to list all the prospects which they opened.
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sapphire RX580 Nitro+ 4GB Hynix - Need help with rig (only 20MH/s in dual mode) on: October 05, 2017, 11:43:25 AM
I don't have any Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 4GB cards, but I know my Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB SE cards with a Samsung/Hynix dual memory Bios don't like a core clock over 1150 MHz. If I increase the core clock by more than that, the hash drops. I use the Polaris Bios Editor v1.6 from jaschaknack, 'one click timing patch' Bios mod with a 1150 MHz core clock, 2100-2200 MHz memory overclock, -15% power limit and -96mV undevolt and get 30+ MH/s ETH + 850 MH/s DCR dual mining with a -dcri 28 setting. You also need to use Afterburner v4.40 beta 16 or higher to be able to set the power limit and undervolt with the blockchain drivers.

https://github.com/jaschaknack/PolarisBiosEditor

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/download-msi-afterburner-4-4-beta-18.html

Also set your virtual memory on Windows to at least 16GB if you're using multiple GPU's.





Soz my bad English, I bought 8 of these cards, can you please answer some questions?, how much watts its pulling each gpu from the wall? What temperature are they handled? Wich one of the two bios are you using when moding? do you thing this are better than msi gaming x??
I don't like MSI and therefore use only RX 580 4GB. The difference between 8GB and 4GB of memory so I see no reason to spend more money. Consumption when dual mining about 110 watts. The temperature is 51 degrees. Speed 29 Mh/s ETH + 830 Mh/s
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: eBTC doing well!! on: October 05, 2017, 11:24:49 AM
Each day appearing and disappearing coins. I don't have time to watch it and therefore don't trust new things. I trust only old and trusted coins. My friend opposite is trying to only buy new coins. They always grow rapidly at the initial stage and it brings him a good income.
548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull trap? Or price going back to 4k for real? on: October 04, 2017, 03:39:06 PM
I do not see reasons for concern. Traders can always earn the profit so for them no matter how much is bitcoin. It is important for them to have permanent jump. Keepers of bitcoins is also no reason to worry because they were going to hold bitcoins for a long time. At the end of this year, we are already seeing growth of 400%. Let me remind you that the year is not over and they have good prospects to increase their capital. What's the problem?
549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin can hit 5000$ before november?? on: October 04, 2017, 03:30:50 PM
November is very close and Bitcoin price at this moment seems to be stuck somwhere around 4000$ or a bit above. This can change very soon of course but I think we will have to wait the begininig of the next year to get to the 5000$ again. But after we cross that price the path for further growth is wide open.
Bitcoin shows a very good result. Against the background that constantly come bad news from China the price remains stable. For me it does not matter the news is true or not. They always lead to panic. Now we do not see. This allows me to assume that the price will rise in October.
550  Economy / Speculation / Re: The price is increasing AGAIN on: October 04, 2017, 03:25:51 PM
The banning of ICO by China and the subsequent news really pull the price back when we are enjoying ATH. But since then, we have recovered but I guess $5000 will take us some time before we can achieve it once again. There is the November fork which can make bitcoin price rose and reach $5000. But I'm happy with the current price and thinking just a few weeks ago we are below $3000. But by the year ends, I'm really speculating that we can reach $5000 by that time and probably heading to $7000 at the beginning of next year.
Many are speculating the same as you, but I doubt it unless there will be more good news in the next coming weeks. At least for now I expect bitcoin price to stablize to it's current position as it is somehow rising slowly and not fast. Also, there aren't that much of a news to really drive price way up or down in a short amount of time, and for the reasons stated I concluded that it will be sitting at the current price for at least a week or two.
It seems to me that the price may rise. At bitcoin users have expectations that the price at the end of October will continue to grow as it was during the last fork. In addition, people expect that again, get free coins. All of this can lead to higher prices until October 25.
551  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-10-03] Russia's Central Depository Trials Hyperledger for Bond Trading on: October 03, 2017, 09:16:52 AM
Why is it necessary? The largest guardians of the shares of Russian enterprises in America and Norway is now selling assets. This require them to investors. In Russia there is no money. What is the point to put the cashier if the store no customers? Grin
552  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is Bitcoin the way to fight corruption? Or is it the good way to launder money? on: October 03, 2017, 09:12:24 AM
Bitcoin is the only currency. It doesn't help and is not fighting corruption. It's not her job. It is wrong to blame the weapon is that it kills people. Initially it was created to protect. Charges of crypto-currencies is that they corrupt this element of the information war, governments and banks against a free economy.
553  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC for taxi on: October 02, 2017, 11:26:28 AM
I don't know how you can now use the bitcoin payment in a taxi. The price for a small transaction can be approximately equal to the cost of travel. Much cheaper to withdraw a large sum to a Bank card and pay with it for taxis and shopping in the store.
554  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin successfully defeated China on: October 02, 2017, 11:22:11 AM
It already doing that as bitcoin already start moving upward and in this run, it will touch its new high before closing of this year. No one can start bitcoin from rising, it was just one week downfall of BTC because of 2-3 bad news comes in very short period of time and market already absorb that and now in rising mode.
I think as far as role of China is concerned, China was only trying to take control over Bitcoin so that it can get as much benefit from Bitcoin as he wants. But the fact is China failed in a very bad way.

All the plans made by Chinese went useless and it is Bitcoin once again who managed to take lead over all the things.
Don't underestimate China. It is important not to allow the Chinese government to use bitcoins in China or not. Every 6 people on earth is Chinese and they have been and will remain the owners of a large number of coins. It can not influence the market of cryptocurrencies.
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: cryptocurrencies that can grow in the coming days on: October 02, 2017, 11:16:57 AM
It seems to me that all such predictions are based on the price of bitcoin. As soon as there is a steady growth of bitcoin prices immediately, the market reacts altcoins. I don't know why this is happening. From the point of view of logic it should be the opposite but I see a picture.
556  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if another altcoin surpasses BTC in value? on: October 01, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
This can not happen because the number of bitcoins is limited. The quantity of ETH is not limited. This means that in the future ETH will experience the brunt of inflation. After ETH will reach its peak will fall that cannot be stopped.
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Which coin(s) do you like To mine? on: September 30, 2017, 10:51:36 AM
Ofcourse my first choice is still bitcoin..and my second option is etherium...it easy to my using GPU that use in mining rig to mine etherium
Soon the mining of Ethereum will be called into question. Now they are switching to POS and I have heard that to get the Ethereum can only those who have counts of 1,000 coins. I think it will be the collapse of the ETH. I don't like when the rules change during the game.
558  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what are the weaknesses of the crypto market? on: September 30, 2017, 10:46:28 AM
Easy to manipulate.

Since trading with cryptocurrencies isn't linked to any of the trading regulations applie to every country, one can manipulate the market at his/her own will without being intervened by anyone as long as they have the money. Due to this, other traders are having their loss while there are only a few entity on the market that benefits from the trade. This also scares off potential investors seeing that at any time of the day, their hard-earned money can crumble in minutes, which further restricts potential growth too.
It seems to me that the danger of crypto market is not only that he is completely under the control of speculators. The main brake on the spread of cryptocurrencies in the absence of direct turnover. Not everyone wants to deal with a currency for which it is impossible to buy anything. Always trade was the engine of progress.
559  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: South Korea Bans ICO's/Your Opinion on: September 30, 2017, 10:38:54 AM
I'm sure it's another fake. Now is not the time when you can abandon income. I think the Koreans know the rumors come from China and just decided to take the opportunity and earn the same way. After Switzerland buried his independent banking system I don't trust her. I think the oasis of cryptocurrency will be in a different place.
560  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin phased out on: September 29, 2017, 01:56:10 PM
To kill bitcoin too little to create a new currency. Even if it is better than bitcoin it will not have such prevalence. It's like a dollar. Everyone understands that it is the papers which do not cost anything but they're so common in the world that no one wants to fight with the dollar because everyone will lose their money.
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