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541  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website is offering 1 GHs @ 0.001 BTC | 5% affiliate commission on: December 09, 2014, 08:01:05 PM
Nigerian Prince around 20 years, but this "type" of scams much longer..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/419_scams

Yes Smiley let me belive!  Smiley

Also, that service in your sig is a scam too.
542  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: December 09, 2014, 12:08:33 PM
If i buy on december 10th at 11:00 am havelock time, will i get dividens for that day at 12 am?
AMHASH1 yes, AMHASH3 propably not.
You never know if it is 11 hours before they do divined so they may shock us and pay out for that day never know even if it is only has pmt?

It is actually 1hr before divs are normally paid to Amhash1 holders

Actually, 12 am doesn't make sense. From NIST:

Quote
Are noon and midnight 12 a.m. or 12 p.m.?

    This is perhaps the trickiest time question of them all. The best answer is that the terms 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. cause confusion and should not be used.

    To illustrate this, consider that "a.m." and "p.m." are abbreviations for "ante meridiem" and "post meridiem." They mean "before noon" and "after noon," respectively. Of course, noon is neither before nor after noon; it is simply noon. Therefore, neither the "a.m." nor "p.m." designation is correct. On the other hand, midnight is both 12 hours before noon and 12 hours after noon. Therefore, either 12 a.m. or 12 p.m. could work as a designation for midnight, but both would be ambiguous.

    To get around the problem, the terms 12 noon and 12 midnight should be used instead of 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. For example, a bank might be open on Saturday from 8 a.m. to noon. Or, a grocery store might be open daily until midnight. If you are making schedules, times such as 12:01 a.m. (one minute after midnight), or 11:59 p.m. (one minute before midnight) also can eliminate ambiguity. This method is used by the railroads and airlines.
543  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website is offering 1 GHs @ 0.001 BTC | 5% affiliate commission on: December 09, 2014, 11:33:18 AM
Look, u r blatantly lying again. friedcat & company has multiple outfits to deceive people. The sig campaign he is running is here => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739269.0. For AM hash selling, instead of referral, he is using the shady Panamian platform HaveLock, Hashie and a few forum agents like U. It is always better to be straightforward and have an affiliate program. Interestingly, companies like CoinBase also have an affiliate program like cloudmining.website or PB mining.

What exactly do you think I'm lying about? Stop being such a deranged lunatic, coming up with crazy conspiracy theories. It doesn't take a genius to understand that I'm an ASICMiner shareholder. As for the signature campaign, that is quite clearly for Prismas. You clearly have no idea about anything with regards to the bitcoin mining or investing scenes. AMHash doesn't have an referral scheme, don't have secret forum agents selling stuff and Havelock is just a securities exchange platform that anybody can use, hence all the stocks on it that have nothing to do with ASICMiner.

ASICMiner is actually really shit at marketing in my opinion.

Well, now u demand that u r a voluntary campaigner of AM hash or a sock puppet of friedcat. So, answer me the following Qs...

1. Where do I get to see the total hash power sold by AM hash in real time ?

2. At which mining address/addresses I can see the bitcoins mined by that hash power ?

3. If friedcat & AM hash are legit, where is a video of him talking about AM hash ?

1. On Havelock for contracts sold on Havelock. Those sold by Hashie haven't been transferred to Havelock yet and neither have those sold directly. You can see how much hashing power has been sold directly by looking at the payment address. They've actually sold as much directly in 4 days as they have on Havelock in nearly 1.5 months. Eventually they'll all be merged on Havelock.

2.
1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i
1ERszMSERwHNR9Xty73KZXpsg1jjBXWcHh
1K7AuMJwVfZg3UVjinnjT2HzG4pJvACat6

3. Now you're just making a complete fool of yourself. ASICMiner is the oldest bitcoin ASIC manufacturer. They had 60 Ph/s worth of ASICs in the spring and had trouble selling them because the chips under performed and demand was over estimated. Then there was a load of trouble with Prismas and it was decided the best way to sell those chips was through cloud mining and AMHash was born. 5 Ph/s is fuck all to ASICminer. Also, they've already paid for their 4th generation ASIC and will be getting samples next week. Mass production is expected for February. They're also busy with R&D for gen 5 ASICs. Of course they're legit you fucking moron.  Roll Eyes
544  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining and the intrinsic value of the Bitcoin Network on: December 09, 2014, 01:58:25 AM
Cloud mining just beginning to gain momentum

In the future, I think this is big business

ASICMiner, Bitmain and KNC now have their own cloud mining services and I wouldn't be surprised if Spondoolies launches their own next year.
545  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining / Any proof? on: December 09, 2014, 01:48:07 AM
Any of the cloud mining services from the ASIC manufacturers:

AMHash
Hashnest
KNC Cloud

546  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING on: December 09, 2014, 01:30:28 AM
What fees do you have?
We have a no fee policy.
For any changes we will notify everyone through our website and on Bitcointalk forums.

https://cloudminr.io/faq/

At cex : 0.107$/GHS/month and the price on the market is 0.0016

So, they have no fees yet:

1 GHS is expected to  mine 0.00008799BTC/week so 1257s/day. 800/GH/day is good. About the same rate at cloudminr.

So, if cloudminr.io has no fees and 1 Gh/s is expected to pay 1257 Satoshis per day and only around 800 Satoshis were paid out, what happened to the other 457 Satoshis?
547  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website is offering 1 GHs @ 0.001 BTC | 5% affiliate commission on: December 09, 2014, 12:11:17 AM
Are u a hypocrite ? Or I should assume that your HaveLock/AM hash management has denied your X-mas perk unless u can boost sales for them ? Even after all these charges cloudmining.website payment is way better than your legit AM hash, who is already overselling hash power than their hardware dump. Cheesy

p.s. Go tell your friedcat that people pay for better return, NOT for your superficial FUD. That may bring in some fried chicken at your meal. Wink

Well, Galdur said his payment was about 800 Satoshis per Gh. AMHash's was 817 Satoshis per Gh.

Also, AMhash is not overselling anything, they had 5 Ph/s and have 3.5 Ph/s left for sale. They don't have an affiliate scheme and they don't pay me for boosting sales. Do you see a referral link in my sig? I made that sig myself because they don't even have a sig campaign.

548  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptomine.io - SHA-256 & Scrypt Unlimited Mining Contracts on: December 08, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
The "current reward" is still wrong! It's been changed to 0.00001500 per Gh per day.

Here's the equation:

Reward = Hash Rate * Block Reward * 86400 * ((65535 / 2^48 ) / Difficulty)

1*10^9 * 25 * 86400 * ((65535 / 2^48 ) / 40007470271) = 0.00001257 BTC

Why are you misleading potential customers by making your service seem more profitable than it actually is?
549  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING on: December 08, 2014, 11:10:56 PM
In this climat, cloudmining can bring you great return if you chose the correct company to invest with.

GHS at 0.0015 and lower will likely ROI if the maintenance costs of the company is low.

Can you link me to cloudminer.io's maintenance costs?
550  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: DO NOT BUY OR SELL PBMINING ACCOUNTS on: December 08, 2014, 11:08:14 PM
There can be many reasons. Money laundering and tax evasion are first things that come to my mind.

Then they wouldn't be legitimate services.
551  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloudminr.io - not legit at all? on: December 08, 2014, 10:20:19 PM
about you and SpanishSoldier complaining about AMHash when this thread is aimed towards cloudminr.io

I wasn't complaining about AMHash, I was pointing out to SpanishSoldier that legitimate services have costs and state those costs. Scam services don't state their costs and can therefore pay you whatever they feel like. They can also charge whatever they want for their service because they don't actually have any miners. That applies to cloudminer.io and the link I posted has more evidence against them.

552  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: DO NOT BUY OR SELL PBMINING ACCOUNTS on: December 08, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
I think this should be everyone's personal choice. Evidence equals more legitimacy and more happy clients, but lack of evidence doesn't have to equal scam.
You have to assess the risk before investing, that's all.

Why would a legitimate service refuse to provide such evidence given that such actions are guaranteed to drive away a lot of potential customers?
553  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloudminr.io - not legit at all? on: December 08, 2014, 09:06:22 PM
to give more evidence to people who are new here or don't really know much about cloud mining scams ...

So what are you complaining about then?
554  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloudminr.io - not legit at all? on: December 08, 2014, 07:52:38 PM
me asking if they are legit was a rhetorical question, which you should realize after reading the topic, especially after I said "make your mind" and gave evidence

Your point being?
555  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloudminr.io - not legit at all? on: December 08, 2014, 07:21:08 PM
Yes, I read your thread.

The title is asking whether cloudminr.io is legit or not. No, it is not legit.

Then you said:

I was looking for some cloud mining that has good price and acceptable fees, however since there is shitload of scams with this I started to read ToS and look at the source code of the website, what happened with cloudminr.io is funny and sad at the same time, make your mind:

I replied that most of them are scams and that people can get an impartial review of such services from the link I provided.

Then you provide some evidence to support your claim of them being a scam. Your evidence isn't required. Cloudminr.io refuse to provide any evidence of their legitimacy, they're quite obviously a scam.
556  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: DO NOT BUY OR SELL PBMINING ACCOUNTS on: December 08, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
More drama and more doom preaching. Come back with this thread once they stop paying people.

Any cloud mining service that flat-out refuses to provide any evidence of their legitimacy should be considered a scam and avoided.
557  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cloudminr.io - not legit at all? on: December 08, 2014, 06:25:32 PM
okay, can you both start talking about AMHash in AMHash thread or via PM? this is about cloudminr ...

Cloudminr.io is a ponzi service. Most cloud mining services are and they flat-out refuse to provide any evidence of legitimacy. Anyone looking for an impartial review of cloud mining services should check out Puppet's Cloudmining 101 thread.
558  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: AMHash: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: December 08, 2014, 05:57:59 PM
It's Bitcoin only.
559  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptomine.io - SHA-256 & Scrypt Unlimited Mining Contracts on: December 08, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
The theoretical payout hasn't been that high since the initial post in this thread. In fact, it hasn't been that high since the difficulty was 29,238,750,955 which was back in the beginning of September.
560  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website is offering 1 GHs @ 0.001 BTC | 5% affiliate commission on: December 08, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
I've been mining since 2010 and know exactly how important it is to factor in electricity costs. No, I can't link you to the part of their website that says they will pay 100% theoretical return. Can you link me to the part of their website which states precisely what their maintenance fees are so that people can actually calculate the expected payouts?

Like I said, cloudmining.website can pay you whatever they feel like because they can claim whatever maintenance fees they want.

"Oh, you only received 10% of what you expected? That's just this weeks maintenance fees which I pulled out of my arse."
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