I'm new in this thread, but I have been watching and investing in Monero for several months.

Now that I have studied Boolberry a bit, I am puzzled as to why the price of BBR is less than a tenth the price of XMR. There are actually a couple of features of BBR that I think have advantages over XMR. It seem to me that the prices probably should be closer to parity.

I guess it is a bit weird to ask this here, but is there something I'm missing that has led to this big price difference?

I might buy some BBR if I can wrap my wits around this discrepancy.

Both XMR and BBR should be viewed as long-term, high risk .. you could call them investments or gambles, depending on your point of view.  They're interesting because they *do* have some serious potential as the first real independent codebase from Bitcoin and with something fundamentally different to offer.  But they're both very early projects with a lot of real work needed to be done before they'll start to have non-trivial use outside of speculation.  I think it's silly at this point to worry about them competing with each other, when the real long-term is "cryptonote vs bitcoin derivatives that claim better anonymity."

Realistically, I think there's only one major risk associated with the ups and downs of either BBR or XMR's price -- the risk that the dev teams will get disheartened or not see enough upside in it to continue to devote work to it.  I love BBR's 1% built in dev fee, because it delivers an ongoing revenue stream instead of providing an incentive to dump and run, but it does mean that the dev income is proportional to the price.  Practically speaking, of course, dev donations in XMR probably have a similar relationship empirically.

While I don't think we've seen this problem much yet, Zoidberg & btc-mike, if you find yourselves unable to do as much as you want for the coin because of lack of funds, I'll happily donate some back in the hope that you can use it well to increase the value of my remaining holdings.  I bet there are others who feel the same way.

It's true enough Zoidberg (though I realize as newbie who isn't an established bitcoin whale I have little cred here). I'm committed but not rich by any stretch of the imagination; that investment represents a significant chunk of my savings. XMR and BBR are the only coins I have invested in - sleeping giants.

Oh no, now fudsters will have another theme to talk about why BBR is so much worse than XMR. 

how would you know that, are you the guy? lol

Hopefully the guy that bought almost 100k yesterday is reading this thread also.

A bit off topic but +1 from me. I'm holding 5 figures of each.

works like a charm... did i download the wrong one somehow? 

thanks a lot, getting a much better hashrate now!

i can't remember where i downloaded it now, but it's just called boolberryeasyminer. i believe btc-mike posted it on one of these threads but i might be wrong about that.

edit: found it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg7829866#msg7829866


i unzipped them into the same folder and made the batch file in the same folder.


no error messages or anything, it just abruptly stops at the points that are in the screenshots.

like i said, it works fine when i run it in the cpuminer folder that comes with the boolberry easyminer, but not the cpuminer-multi that i download from the boolberry website.

i can see that the one that comes with the easyminer is 4.125 MB, while the one in the cpuminer-multi is only 209 KB. something wrong there?  

I don't know whats going on but cpu pool miner has stopped working.....I get same problem on 2 different pools

stratum_recv_line failed
.......retry after ten seconds

Anyone help please?

I don't know whats going on but cpu pool miner has stopped working.....I get same problem on 2 different pools

stratum_recv_line failed
.......retry after ten seconds

Anyone help please?

i love to mine BBR without a pool... and it works out quite nice with mbk's miner (boolbd).

question. is it possible to mine/connect with additional cpu miners directly to the booldb rcp damon of the gpu mbk miner?

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  bool miner::request_block_template()
  {
    block bl = AUTO_VAL_INIT(bl);
    wide_difficulty_type di = AUTO_VAL_INIT(di);
    uint64_t height = AUTO_VAL_INIT(height);
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How to restore viewkey if i don´t remember on the first time i generate the wallet?
Or it´s even possible?

LOG_PRINT_L0("Loaded wallet keys file, with public address: " << m_account.get_public_address_str());

LOG_PRINT_L0("Loaded wallet keys file, with public address: " << m_account.get_public_address_str()
    << ENDL << "tracking key: " << m_account.get_keys().m_view_secret_key);

All Scrypt-like memory hard functions have essentially some variant of the same fundamental algorithm (ignoring the initialization of the memory scratchpad):


Note some variants write the output of the hash back into the scratchpad, which is important for diminishing the threat of "lookup gap" strategies for trading computation for memory space.

My assumption (based on your description) is that Boolberry's PoW hash is faster because you replace 'hash' with some faster operation that modulates 'memory[ i ]' by data from the block chain, e.g. perhaps an xor operation. That modulation may not be cyptographically secure because that blockchain data may be subject to cryptanalysis and game theory.

Cryptonote's PoW employes AES round in the 'hash' which may not be cyptographically secure.

I didn't study exactly how he is twiddling each bit to utilize the block hash data to provide the randomization of the lookups in the scratchpad, but I do know he says he eliminated the computation of a hash that would normally take that role. Thus I don't need to look at the source code, to make the statements I have made.

I guess you mean BBR, as Monero has a lot more code contributed to it and is far more diversed from the CN reference code.